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Category:Medium (TV series)

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The result of the discussion was: delete both. >Radiant< 09:20, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Medium to Category:Medium (TV series)
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Category:Anti-Islam sentiment

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Important backing policies include WP:NPOV and WP:BLP and guideline WP:OCAT. Oh and yes, anti-Christianity and so forth should be likewise put on CFD. >Radiant< 09:20, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Anti-Islam sentiment (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
See also: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2006 December 27 § Category:Anti-Islam sentiment, and Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_February_27 § Category:Anti-Islam_sentiment_.282nd_nomination.29

Per WP:OC#Opinion_about_a_question_or_issue: "...holding an opinion is not a defining characteristic, and should not be a criterion for categorization, even if a reliable source can be found for the opinion." "Anti-Islam sentiment" is by deifnition an opinion on Islam (negative in this case) and thus must be deleted as a clear example of overcategorization. Beit Or 20:01, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • What would you propose as an alternate? Category:Anti-Islam? Given the existence of roughly equivalent categories (and in particular the one for antisemitism) I don't see how this type of an argument is valid. (→Netscott) 21:51, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Anti-Protestantism was more likely created in response to Category:Anti-Catholicism. They both predate this category as far as I can tell.--T. Anthony 03:42, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'd agree it's profoundly incorrect and possibly even a bit suspect. However comparing this to Category:Anti-Protestantism, or even Category:American anti-Communist propaganda films, seems potentially valid to me.--T. Anthony 03:47, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:List of Royal Military College of Canada people

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The result of the discussion was: rename. >Radiant< 09:20, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:List of Royal Military College of Canada people (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Rename to Category:Royal Military College of Canada people, convention of Category:People by university in Canada. -- Prove It (talk) 18:01, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:CCM Songs

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The result of the discussion was: rename. >Radiant< 09:20, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:CCM Songs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Merge into Category:Christian songs, or Rename to Category:Contemporary Christian songs. -- Prove It (talk) 17:27, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Films based on Marvel comics

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The result of the discussion was: don't rename. >Radiant< 09:20, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Films based on Marvel comics to Category:Films based on Marvel Comics
Nominator's Rationale: Speedy Rename, Proper name is "Marvel Comics". ~ZytheTalk to me! 17:20, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Animation based on Marvel Comics

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The result of the discussion was: speedy delete (empty).--Mike Selinker 19:39, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Animation based on Marvel Comics (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Empty. Crosses over with both Category:Television programs based on Marvel Comics and Category:Films based on Marvel comics. Duplicate of Category:Marvel Comics animation. ~ZytheTalk to me! 17:18, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Jewish figure skaters

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Most of the debate boils down to WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS vs. non-defining intersection. The former is not a valid argument, and vote stacking is inappropriate. >Radiant< 09:20, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Jewish figure skaters (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Overcategorization. Covered under Jewish sportspeople. No reason to have seperate category. Why seperate figure skaters by religion? (Edited to add: I know LGBT figure skaters exists as a category. However, due to the overwhelming stereotype of all figure skaters as gay, I think that category is useful to categorize the skaters who have actually come out of the closet. However, I have never seen a stereotype of all figure skaters as [insert religion here], so seperating by religion makes no sense. Should we categorize Michael Weiss under Methodist figure skaters?) Kolindigo 16:49, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Deletion of the category Jewish sportspeople was already considered -- and rejected. --Epeefleche 22:54, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Singled out for deletion? What are the other similiar ones? It's the only figure skaters by religion category. If you're not aware of stereotypes of skaters as being gay, I welcome you to google "figure skating" + "gay". As for someone being notable for their sexual orientation (not activities), Rudy Galindo is very open about his, going so far as to play himself on Will & Grace. Brian Orser coming out, as I recall, was huge. And I really resent the implication that I'm singling out a Jewish topic for deletion just because it's Jewish. Kolindigo 22:44, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I agree with Runcorn here, though I recognize the fact that Koldingo himself was not aware of this at the time of his suggesting that this category be deleted. A few of the editors in this discussion formerly tried to delete the categories "Jewish sportspeople," and/or "Jewish Fencers" in the past. Their efforts were rejected. And yet, they are trying to do the same here. Editors such as ProveIt and coelacan and Abberley2 were all involved, for example, in the recent failed attempt to have jewish fencers removed as a category. I personally think it is a waste of our time for them to try again here, category by category. But when I asked some of them to drop it for that reason, so as not to waste everyone's time going over yet again an issue that has essentially been addressed already, they refused. I trust, being an optimist, that this will be the last one of these. --Epeefleche 22:48, 16 April 2007 (UTC)--22:48, 16 April 2007 (UTC)~User:Epeefleche|Epeefleche]] 02:41, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

1. See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (categories) Categorization of people (3.3 Heritage), which demonstrates that something such as "Jewish figure skaters" is clearly contemplated by Wiki policy. It says: Heritage

People are sometimes categorized by notable ancestry, culture, or ethnicity, depending upon the common conventions of speech for each nationality. A hyphen is used to distinguish the word order: ....The heritage should be combined with the occupation, replacing the nationality alone (for example, Category:African-American actors).

Concurrent citizenship may be reflected by duplicating the occupation (for example, Category:Jewish American actors and Category:Israeli actors)."

2. Nationality. Also, if the Jews are (as appears to be the case) a nation (and not just a religion), it would clearly not be appropriate to delete.

The Wikipedia entry for "Jew" indicates, inter alia, that Jews are "members of the Jewish people (also known as the Jewish nation ...)."

The Wiki definition of "nationality" states, inter alia: "Generally, nationality is established at birth by a child's place of birth (jus soli) and/or bloodline (jus sanguinis)."

Thus, in the (unusual) case of Jews, who consist of a nation that has largely been dispersed from its homeland, it would not be appropriate to delete.

Other religions are in the "normal case" distinct from the nation. In other words, there was not a Protestant, or Buddhist, or Christian, or Hindu, or Aethiest nation per se. They are not a "people." They are not a "nation." Jews, peculiarly, are not just a religion. They are also a nation. Dispersed (largely) for a couple of thousand years.

3. Notability. Wiki policy calls for a sensitivity towards "notability."

To determine what notability means here, one must go to Wikipedia:Notability (people), the notability criteria guideline for Wikipedia. That guideline states, inter alia, that "Notability on Wikipedia for people is based on the following criterion: The person has been a primary subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the person. This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, magazine articles, books, scholarly papers, and television documentaries ...."

Thus, where one is noted as being a Jew in multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the person, such as newspaper articles, magazine articles, books, and the like, they meet the notability requirement. And thus it would be appropriate to have a distinct category. These already exist for Black Jews and various types of Jewish athletes other than Jewish figure skaters ... see Category:Jewish sportspeople.

And, importantly, there are a number of Halls of Fame and lists and articles relating to Jewish athletes. "Jewish Sports Legends" is a book that one can find at [1]. The International Jewish Sports Hall of Fame Jewishsports.net bios can be found at [2]. Jews in Sports bios can be found at [3]. National Jewish Sports Hall of Fame bios can be found at [4]. Jews in the Olympics can be found at [5] and medalists can be found at [6]. The Baltimore Jewish Times runs articles on Jewish athletes: [7]. The Holocaust Museum runs articles on Jewish athletes in the Holocaust: [8] and [9]. "From the Ghetto To The Games: Jewish Athletes in Hungary" focuses on certain Jewish athletes [10]. It is mentions such as these that demonstrate the importance of this classification ... which is what Wiki policy focuses on. --Epeefleche 00:11, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Actually, your comment that "no article has or could be written about Jewish figure skating is not quite accurate. See, for example, "The Tribe goes to Torino: Sketches of Jewish Olympic-Bound Athletes," 2/16/06, "Jewish Life at the Olympics", "Results in for Jewish Figure Skaters", "Feisty Figure Skater Sasha Cohen Heads Off to the Olympics, Magen David in Tow," 1/25/02, and "Jewish Figure Skater Hopes to Ice Spot in '98 Olympic Games," 1/19/96. --Epeefleche 03:47, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment In the context of Wikipedia, that means no encyclopedic article could be written about the subject, not that the press might not occasionally publish human-interest articles about skaters focusing on their religion or ethnicity. Dr.frog 12:24, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Really? Please link to a Wikipedia policy that says that in so many words.--Osidge 12:41, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I also disagree with Dr. frog on this. See the discussion above in my comment under "3. Notability," which clearly points out that "Notability on Wikipedia for people is based on the following criterion: The person has been a primary subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the person. This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, magazine articles, books, scholarly papers, and television documentaries ...."--Epeefleche 22:41, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Note. It should be noted that user Epeefleche is conducting a get out the vote canvas. Votes by Shamir1 and Mwalcoff appear to have been made after posts to their talk pages. In addition, the same comments have been posted to several category talk pages like Category talk:Israeli sportspeople. Vegaswikian 04:58, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
At least in my case it is not the first time, since I do care about the case. And the continued re-consideration of this issue should be on the nominators head, not on the person trying to alert people to the continued discussion in the area where otherwise the same people who discussed the issue last time may not know that it is happening again. Ansell 21:57, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
The thing is it's unclear if "figure skaters by ethnicity" is done here, not even when it's a nationality. True there is Category:Welsh figure skaters, but that can be argued to be more about being a UK region. We don't have a Category:Karuk figure skaters even though Naomi Lang would count as one. (The Welsh category has only one name if you object to the analogy)--T. Anthony 06:22, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There may well be a Welsh figure skating championships, as there are Welsh championships in dozens of sports, but there is no Jewish figure skating championships. The constituent countries of the UK are essential subdivisions in sport as they compete separately in the great majority of sports on the same basis as fully independent nations. Oliver Han 10:38, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Actually, there are the Maccabiah Games. --Epeefleche 18:50, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. Just off-hand I'd also probably favor deleting Category:LGBT figure skaters as well, since people were saying "well if that's ok so is this". I'm not sure either is ok. Dugwiki 22:51, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. As is indicated in some of the articles e.g., those of Rubinstein and Shmerkin, anti-semitism played a role in the careers of some of the Jewish figure skaters. This was especially common in the former communist countries, and as you will note a number of these skaters finally emigrated from those countries. Though I should point out that notability does not, as you suggest, require that the fact that the person is Jewish impact their career, anymore than we are required to demonstrate that the fact that a person is from the U.S. or born on July 1 impacts their career -- but we still list those. Plus, see notability discussion and nationality discussion above, which respond to some of your other comments. --Epeefleche 23:07, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
To reply, you are making a faulty analogy between "Skaters by ethnicity" and "Skaters by nationality". It is generally accepted that a person's nationality does directly affect their careers in almost all cases, but it is not generally accepted that a person's ethnicity or religion affects their careers in most cases. For figure skating, for example, your nationality directly impacts your figure skating career by directing the course of your training and competitions (Olympic skaters compete for their nations as an obvious example.) It is not nearly so clear that your religion or ethnicity, though, impacts your skating career at all. Thus "Skaters by nationality" is not a "random intersection" because the two traits are intertwined, but "Skaters by ethnicity" or "Skaters by religion" are generally going to be random intersections since the traits and the occupation have little to do with each other. Dugwiki 17:10, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
First, if you look at my initial comment you will see that I discuss how the Jews are in fact a nation. Second, I have no idea where your notions as to what is "generally accepted" come from. They certainly do not match my understanding. The impact on careers of athletes who were Jewish, precisely because they were Jewish, is well documented. I again suggest that you look at the bios of Louis Rubenstein and Michael Shmerkin as examples in the case of Jewish ice skaters. There are many examples of Jewish athletes behind the Iron Curtain facing difficulties in their careers because they were Jewish, as well as Jews in anti-semitic countries such as Nazi Europe facing the same and greater difficulties.--Epeefleche 00:02, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Renominated. I nominated it last time along with another deal I withdrew. I probably won't this time, but it can be done.--T. Anthony 05:45, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Contrary to the above statement by Bulldog, The Wikipedia entry for "Jew" indicates, inter alia, that Jews are "members of the Jewish people (also known as the Jewish nation ...)." (emphasis added) --Epeefleche 07:48, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
However the fact that some people refer to "Jewish people" as "members of the Jewish nation" doesn't make "Jewish" an officially recognized nationality. Israel is a recognized nation, and thus "Israeli" would be a recognized nationality. But Jewish is an ethnicity or heritage that on occasion some of its members refer to them selves as "members of the Jewish nation". Israel has internationally recognized geographic borders and national sovereignty. You can have an international passport claiming that you are a "citizen of Israel". You can't, though, have an international passport claiming to be a "citizen of the Jewish nation". Dugwiki 17:38, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
First, it is recognize in Wiki as a nation, in the Wiki definition. The definition does not adopt your construct. Second, it is far more complicated than you make it out to be. The Jewish nation was dispersed 2,000 years ago, from its geographic borders. It lives largely in the diaspora. Under Israel's Law of Return, all members of the Jewish nation are autmoatically entitled, by virtue of being members of the Jewish nation, to return to the geographic borders of Israel and become Israeli citizens.--Epeefleche 00:08, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
And again, the nation you're talking about above is Israel. Israel is the nation, and thus "Israeli" is the nationality, not "Jewish". It is "Israel's law of return", for example, and the name of the ancient biblical nation is likewise "Israel".
So I will reiterate that "Israeli" is clearly the nationality here, not "Jewish". If you are of Jewish heritage, that is your ethinicity, but it is not necessarily your nationality. An American jew, for example, is not going to be governed by "Jewish law", will not have a "Jewish passport" or "Jewish visa", or be an employee of the "Jewish government". But a citizen of Israsel can have an Israel passport or visa, would be governed by the national laws of Israel and could be employed by the Israeli government. The distinction is quite clear. Dugwiki 16:47, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
As a further analogy, a descendent of the Aztec empire would not be referred to as having a nationality of Aztec. Rather he would have nationality of whatever nation under whom he is governed as a citizen (eg Mexican nationality, or Columbian, etc). "Aztec" would be the ethnicity, because he shares a heritage with other people of similar ancestry. Ethnicity therefore represents ancestral background, while Nationality represents the nation state under which you are governed. "Jewish" is founded in ancestral heritage, while "Israeli" is founded in being governed by the nation state of Israel. Dugwiki 17:03, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The flaw in the above argument is that "Jewish" is not a nationality. It is an ethnicity or religion (depending on the context). "Israeli" would be a nationality. As I mentioned above nationalities are not handled the same way as ethnicities. Dugwiki 17:30, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I contend that ethnicity and occupation is a valid cross-section in certain cases. Category:Native American sportspeople is a perfect example of this. --Eliyak T·C 22:39, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I would add that, contrary to Dugwiki's bald assertion to the contrary, Jews are a nation under Wiki (even if not in Dugwiki's subjective view), as discussed in my above comment.--Epeefleche 23:53, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
And I would say that you are misinterpreting the definition of "nationality", as well as the context of the article Jew. Note that in the introduction, for example, it specifically says "Jews are members of the Jewish people, an ethnic group originating in the Israelites of the ancient Middle East and converts who joined their fold throughout the millennia by adopting their religion." Thus being jewish is a definition of a person's ethnicity (note the highlighted phrase "ethnic group"). Dugwiki 16:50, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Also notice above that it states that the ethnic group "Jews" originated from "the Israelites". Again, "Israelite" is the original nationality since the nation was "Israel". So "Israeli" or "Israelite" (whichever is proper) would be a nationality of a citizen of Israel, while "Jewish" is the ethnicity of someone with Israelite or otherwise Jewish ancestry. Dugwiki 17:25, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Only the Jewish American sportspeople have such a category. In other words, for all non-Americans skaters, this is the only category that both mentions that they are Jewish and that they are skaters. --Epeefleche 06:15, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Japanese private universities

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The result of the discussion was: rename. >Radiant< 09:20, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Japanese private universities to Category:Private universities in Japan
Nominator's Rationale: Rename, to the usual Wikipedia style, as in Category:Universities and colleges in Japan. Oliver Han 16:25, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Psi Upsilon brothers

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The result of the discussion was: delete. >Radiant< 09:20, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Psi Upsilon brothers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Delete as non-defining per numerous precedents. No-one has an article because he belongs to a college fraternity. Haddiscoe 15:59, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Afrikaans authors

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The result of the discussion was: rename. >Radiant< 09:20, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Afrikaans authors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Rename to Category:Afrikaans-language writers, convention of Category:Writers by language. -- Prove It (talk) 15:29, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:International accountancy firms

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The result of the discussion was: delete. >Radiant< 09:20, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:International accountancy firms (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
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Category:Accountancy firms by country

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The result of the discussion was: delete, including subcats. >Radiant< 09:20, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Rock musical groups

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The result of the discussion was: rename. >Radiant< 09:20, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming:
Nominator's rationale: convention of Category:Rock music groups by nationality. Xtifr tälk 13:39, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's irrelevant side-note: I had listed these at speedy, but then I realized they didn't meet the criterion I thought they did. I'm in no particular hurry, so I've voluntarily moved them to CfD. Xtifr tälk 13:39, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Comprehensive schools

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The result of the discussion was: rename. >Radiant< 09:20, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Comprehensive schools to Category:Comprehensive schools in the United Kingdom
Nominator's Rationale: Rename, This is currently a United Kingdom category and needs to be renamed to reflect that. This move will allow the creation (as required) of Comp School cats in other countries and perhaps a new Category:Comprehensive Schools by country supercat. Frelke 12:01, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:American murdered children

Category:Canadian murdered children

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The result of the discussion was: rename both. >Radiant< 09:20, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:American murdered children to Category:Murdered American children
Propose renaming Category:Canadian murdered children to Category:Murdered Canadian children
Nominator's Rationale: Rename for clarity, following the recent decision not to delete. This category is not delimited to children who were murdered by American people (through most of them were), and it has nothing to do with killings by the American government.Annandale 11:54, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Bigamists

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The result of the debate was Upmerge, no consensus to delete but individual categories too small to be viable. --Xdamrtalk 11:33, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Bigamists (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Umbrella nom for this and all subcats. Pejorative category. Out of the less than 20 articles in the entire cat + subs, only 1 or 2 were actually famous for being bigamists (for religious reasons or in spite of them), and the others were just footnotes in the lives of people who were famous (or notorious) for other things, and thus isn't a very useful category. MSJapan 04:26, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment Fair enough, but in most of the cases, no legal action was noted in the article (legal action was mostly on the historical English and British entries). Steven Seagal may have had marriages annulled, but he was never convicted in a court of bigamy. Neither was Isaac Singer, and neither was Alois Hitler, Jr.. Rudolph Valentino was only classified as a bigamist because he didn't wait long enough on his divorce papers. In short, many of the category entries don't fit the legal definition of the term. If they did, I'd see no problem with the cat. MSJapan 19:44, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Royal Navy First Sea Lords

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The result of the discussion was: rename. >Radiant< 09:20, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Royal Navy First Sea Lords to Category:First Sea Lords
Nominator's Rationale: Rename, "First Sea Lord" is an office unique to the Royal Navy. Therefore, the "Royal Navy" part of the category name is redundant. Choess 02:12, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Rare bibles

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The result of the debate was speedy delete by Natalie Erin as recreation of deleted content. — coelacan — 22:27, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Rare bibles (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

First, please see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 March 24#Famous and Rare bibles. This seems like recreation of deleted material. It was created a day after the discussion closed. The previously deleted cat was Category:Rare special bibles. Removing the word 'special' was not part of the consensus reached at the previous CfD. Besides, there is only a single article in this category. Andrew c 00:24, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:School principals

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The result of the discussion was: merge. >Radiant< 09:20, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:School principals (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Merge into Category:School principals and headteachers, duplicate. -- Prove It (talk) 00:03, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • A redirect is probably a good idea. This is one I would expect to keep returning otherwise. — coelacan — 22:27, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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