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People from the Southern United States

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Dana boomer (talk) 22:20, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. To coincide with the nomination below, these categories are just an extra category level that does not aid in navigation. These two Foo from the Southern United States are also the only two of their kind, as the other regions aren't covered at all. — ξxplicit 04:34, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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Category:Construction projects

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The result of the discussion was: No consensus. Dana boomer (talk) 22:28, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Propose merging Category:Construction projects to Category:Buildings and structures under construction or Category:Proposed buildings and structures
Nominator's rationale: Merge. Most of the items in here are questionable as to really belonging rather then being in other better categories. Inclusion in this and the previous Category:Building projects was mostly based on ongoing construction activity. In how many cases does retaining a construction related category work correctly past the construction phase? Project City Center was a construction project. However, the article morphed over time into the post construction name and purpose, CityCenter. Since it no longer is an under development project, it probably does not belong in this category. Also I'll note that the introduction here is for Building and structures that are proposed or under construction. Which just happens to be the names for two of the subcategories. So at best if we keep this, it's parent should be Category:Buildings and structures under construction and/or Category:Proposed buildings and structures. I think that once we decide how to deal with this category, it may be acceptable to allow recreation of this category for notable building projects like Big Dig, Project City Center and maybe a few others. However the introduction for the category needs to establish objective inclusion criteria unlike the current version. Clearly over time we have not devoted articles to major construction projects like the Pyramids. Even something more modern like the Panama Canal does not have a construction article but History of the Panama Canal comes close. I'm still considering how to address Category:Development projects. I'll add in closing that virtually everything in Category:Buildings and structures under construction could be called a construction project so do we really have just have this as an unnecessary level of categorization that does not improve clarity? We lack articles on construction project and development project so we lack a common form of guidance. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:48, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:United States Navy in the Vietnam War

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The result of the discussion was: delete.--Mike Selinker (talk) 03:58, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Category:United States Navy in the Vietnam War (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: It's certainly possible that this category might actually be useful, if there are actually articles that could be filed here. As currently constituted, however, its only entry is Vietnam War itself. Given that this category, as defined, is a subtopic of the Vietnam War, not vice versa, we should be using ((catmore)) to provide a text link to the war's main article but not categorizing that article in here. But if I were to correct that immediately, the category would be empty. I'll gladly withdraw this nomination if somebody can fill the category with articles that actually belong in it — but if the main article on the war itself is all we've got, then delete. Bearcat (talk) 21:09, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Documentary films

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The result of the discussion was: rename all.--Mike Selinker (talk) 05:46, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Click to expand - many categories listed
Category:Documentaries by genre to Category:Documentary films by genre
Category:Animated documentaries to Category:Animated documentary films
Category:Black-and-white documentaries to Category:Black-and-white documentary films
Category:Internet documentaries to Category:Internet documentary films
Category:Short documentaries to Category:Short documentary films
Category:Anthropology films to Category:Documentary films about anthropology
Category:Documentaries about architecture to Category:Documentary films about architecture
Category:Documentaries about dance to Category:Documentary films about dance
Category:Documentaries about entertainers to Category:Documentary films about entertainers
Category:Documentaries about actors to Category:Documentary films about actors
Category:Documentaries about singers to Category:Documentary films about singers
Category:Documentaries about media people to Category:Documentary films about media people
Category:Documentaries about film directors and producers to Category:Documentary films about film directors and producers
Category:Documentaries about the visual arts to Category:Documentary films about the visual arts
Category:Documentaries about visual artists to Category:Documentary films about visual artists
Category:Documentaries about comics to Category:Documentary films about comics
Category:Documentaries about writers to Category:Documentary films about writers
Category:Documentaries about words and language to Category:Documentary films about words and language
Category:Documentaries about conspiracy theories to Category:Documentary films about conspiracy theories
Category:Documentaries about economics to Category:Documentary films about economics
Category:Documentaries about class to Category:Documentary films about class
Category:Documentaries about the ruling class to Category:Documentary films about the ruling class
Category:Documentaries about consumerism to Category:Documentary films about consumerism
Category:Documentaries about globalization to Category:Documentary films about globalization
Category:Documentaries about the labor movement to Category:Documentary films about the labor movement
Category:Documentaries about education to Category:Documentary films about education
Category:Documentaries about environmental issues to Category:Documentary films about environmental issues
Category:Documentaries about global warming to Category:Documentary films about global warming
Category:Documentaries about health care to Category:Documentary films about health care
Category:Historical documentaries to Category:Documentary films about historical events
Category:Documentaries about disasters to Category:Documentary films about disasters
Category:Documentaries about revolutions to Category:Documentary films about revolutions
Category:Documentaries about the September 11 attacks to Category:Documentary films about the September 11 attacks
Category:Documentaries about the U.S. civil rights movement to Category:Documentary films about the U.S. civil rights movement
Category:Holocaust documentaries to Category:Documentary films about the Holocaust
Category:Documentaries about the John F. Kennedy assassination to Category:Documentary films about the John F. Kennedy assassination
Category:Documentaries about Mesoamerica to Category:Documentary films about Mesoamerica
Category:War documentaries to Category:Documentary films about war
Category:Documentaries by war to Category:Documentary films by war
Category:Documentaries about the War in Afghanistan (2001–present) to Category:Documentary films about the War in Afghanistan (2001–present)
Category:Iraq War documentaries to Category:Documentary films about the Iraq War
Category:Vietnam War documentaries to Category:Documentary films about the Vietnam War
Category:World War I documentaries to Category:Documentary films about World War I
Category:World War II documentaries to Category:Documentary films about World War II
Category:Documentaries about terrorism to Category:Documentary films about terrorism
Category:Documentaries alleging war crimes to Category:Documentary films alleging war crimes
Category:Documentaries about human rights to Category:Documentary films about human rights
Category:Documentaries about indigenous rights to Category:Documentary films about indigenous rights
Category:Documentaries about refugees to Category:Documentary films about refugees
Category:Documentaries about law to Category:Documentary films about law
Category:Documentaries about capital punishment to Category:Documentary films about capital punishment
Category:Documentaries about organized crime to Category:Documentary films about organized crime
Category:Documentaries about organized crime in the United States to Category:Documentary films about organized crime in the United States
Category:Documentaries about the media to Category:Documentary films about the media
Category:Documentaries about pornography to Category:Documentary films about pornography
Category:Documentaries about the film industry to Category:Documentary films about the film industry
Category:Documentaries about journalism to Category:Documentary films about journalism
Category:Documentaries about TV shows to Category:Documentary films about TV shows
Category:Nature documentaries to Category:Documentary films about nature
Category:Documentaries about people to Category:Documentary films about people
Category:Documentaries about children to Category:Documentary films about children
Category:Documentaries about politicians to Category:Documentary films about politicians
Category:Documentaries about American politicians to Category:Documentary films about American politicians
Category:Documentaries about royalty to Category:Documentary films about royalty
Category:Documentaries about sportspeople to Category:Documentary films about sportspeople
Category:Political documentaries to Category:Documentary films about politics
Category:Documentaries about American politics to Category:Documentary films about American politics
Category:Documentaries about anarchism to Category:Documentary films about anarchism
Category:Documentaries about Canadian politics to Category:Documentary films about Canadian politics
Category:Documentaries about elections to Category:Documentary films about elections
Category:Documentaries about public opinion to Category:Documentary films about public opinion
Category:Documentaries about religion to Category:Documentary films about religion
Category:Bible documentaries to Category:Documentary films about the Bible
Category:Documentaries about Jesus to Category:Documentary films about Jesus
Category:Documentaries about Islam to Category:Documentary films about Islam
Category:Documentaries critical of Islam to Category:Documentary films critical of Islam
Category:Documentaries critical of Christianity to Category:Documentary films critical of Christianity
Category:Documentaries about science to Category:Documentary films about science
Category:Documentaries about technology to Category:Documentary films about technology
Category:Documentaries about transportation to Category:Documentary films about transportation
Category:Documentaries about aviation to Category:Documentary films about aviation
Category:Documentaries about prehistoric life to Category:Documentary films about prehistoric life
Category:Documentaries about sexuality to Category:Documentary films about sexuality
Category:Documentaries about prostitution to Category:Documentary films about prostitution
Category:Sports documentaries to Category:Documentary films about sports
Category:American sports documentaries to Category:Documentary films about American sports
Category:Olympic documentaries to Category:Documentary films about the Olympics
Category:Documentaries about cities to Category:Documentary films about cities
Nominator's rationale: This is to clean up the sub-cats of Category:Documentary films. The main article is documentary film and documentaries redirects there. Currently there is a mix of Documentaries and Documentary film cats. Lugnuts (talk) 17:11, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If I'd have known that the nomination took nearly 2 hours instead of my planned 10 minutes, I think I might have been too damn lazy too! ;-) Lugnuts (talk) 08:34, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Post-closure discussion[edit]
This was a bad idea as many of the documentaries are TV shows, not films. --Pmsyyz (talk) 17:26, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I guess they need to be moved to Category:Documentary television series. But I think it is more useful to have one category for documentaries about X, instead of splitting it into one for TV and one for film when it is not obvious that the other exists. --Pmsyyz (talk) 17:29, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't quite understand your comment, but it is high time we created some documentary television program/series about foo categories, particularly for categories such as the nature documentaries, where a lot are TV. I'll start there. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:30, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I know we shouldn't be mucking up this page with comments after closure: just to say that I am first going to move the current contents into the newly created Category:Documentary films by topic, then create the sibling Category:Documentary television series by topic, both as subcats of the existing Category:Documentaries by topic. If someone wants to help with the moves, that'd be great. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:43, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
For what it's worth: As the closer of the above discussion, this is fine with me.--Mike Selinker (talk) 13:57, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Country singles certified gold by the Recording Industry Association of America

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The result of the discussion was: merge.--Mike Selinker (talk) 05:46, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Propose merging Category:Country singles certified gold by the Recording Industry Association of America to Category:Singles certified gold by the Recording Industry Association of America
Nominator's rationale: Parent category isn't overwhelmingly large. This is also the only combination of genre + certification. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 16:53, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Modern firearms of the Switzerland

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The result of the discussion was: rename as nominated. Also, the arguments are strong for a nomination of all the Category:Modern firearms categories to something else.--Mike Selinker (talk) 16:31, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Modern firearms of the Switzerland to Category:Modern firearms of Switzerland
Nominator's rationale: There is no country called "the Switzerland". Though we should reconsider the utility of categories such as Category:Modern firearms altogether; what does "modern" mean in this context?  Sandstein  15:43, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • That article, which is very bad, essentially says that "modern weapons" are whatever weapons are new at any given time. That is not helpful for categorization purposes.  Sandstein  16:07, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy move on 'the Switzerland' issue. Neutral on 'modern' issue. Munci (talk) 23:14, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Shared IP addresses from corporations and businesses

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The result of the discussion was: Relist, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 October 22. Dana boomer (talk) 17:16, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Propose merging Category:Shared IP addresses from corporations and businesses to Category:Shared IP addresses
Nominator's rationale: Merge. No Wikipedia-project-related reason to distinguish. Bsherr (talk) 14:57, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Science fiction book series

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The result of the discussion was: Keep as named. Dana boomer (talk) 22:23, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Science fiction book series to Category:Science fiction novel series
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Per parents Category:Science fiction novels, Category:Novel series and in comparison to Category:Fantasy novel series. Tim! (talk) 08:57, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Trilogies by Robertson Davies

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The result of the discussion was: merge.--Mike Selinker (talk) 05:46, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Propose merging Category:Trilogies by Robertson Davies to Category:Novels by Robertson Davies
Nominator's rationale: Merge. This appears to be the only author with a category dedicated to trilogies, and there are only four in the category. Also merge into Category:Literary trilogies. Tim! (talk) 08:37, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Death anniversaries

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The result of the discussion was: delete.--Mike Selinker (talk) 05:46, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Death anniversaries (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Overly narrow category; delete and recategorize the one article with the parent categories. —Justin (koavf)TCM☯ 05:31, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Official Apologies by United States of America

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Dana boomer (talk) 22:21, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Official Apologies by United States of America (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete, imprecise and overbroad. It pretends at being defined by a term of art "official apologies", yet there is no clear definition as to what constitutes such an apology. Is it enough that the President gave an apology in a formal ceremony? A joint statement by Cabinet members? Most damning, all but one of the included articles are not about apologies, but rather (I assume) things for which some official or agency of the U.S. government has apologized. Native Americans in the United States was added by the category's creator, which indicates how vague and unworkable this category is. The only article included that is about an apology explains that such a resolution by Congress has no legal effect, and it's not clear from the article that Congress even agreed that it was an apology ("Apology Resolution" is apparently a colloquial name for it) rather than an "acknowledgment" or some other such euphemism. Literally this category would also include friendly fire incidents, mistaken prosecutions and imprisonments...so long as someone, anyone, within the government afterward admitted that it was a mistake or regrettable incident. Or maybe I'm wrong in thinking this category is irredeemably unfocused and overbroad. postdlf (talk) 03:33, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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