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April 29

Yacht racers

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The result of the discussion was: rename. – Fayenatic London 14:22, 22 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yacht racers by different countries
Nominator's rationale: Rename. The category tree related to sailing of all its forms (professional, competitive, recreational et cetera) lacks a bit of structure, some articles happens to be Category:Sailing, some in Category:Sailing (sport) and some in Category:Yachting. Of people involved in racing with sailboats, some are in Category:Sailors and some in Category:Yacht racers. One reason to why this has happened is probably that all sailors don’t race yachts, but dinghies or keelboats.
Category:Sailors is a category for all types of sailors ("This is the category of all persons who have spent part of their life as recreational or commercial sailors, meaning as crew on a sailing vessel or other vessel. It is not for sailors who have that title as members of a naval force."), while, Category:Yacht racers is a "Worldwide index of famous sailboat racers. Includes Crew Members and Skippers etc". Category:Yacht racers replaced category Category:Sailboat racers in 2008.
There is a benefit of categorising all competitors of the sport sailing together since the competitors are all competing under the same rules and many competitors are both yacht racers and racers of other types of sailboats. Category:Sailors (sport) would include competitors regardless what type of boat they compete in (yacht, dinghy, et cetera).
Further on, 'sailor' is the definition used by ISAF (the sailing governing body) for its competitors ([1]), hence preferable before yacht racers. Sailors (sport) also matches Category:Sailing (sport) better than Category:Yacht racers. Smartskaft (talk) 20:37, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The start of Yacht is dubious, isn't it? "Yachting refers to using water vessels, called yachts, for sporting purposes. If the vessels are sailboats, it's known as sailing, and if the vessels are motorboats, it's known as powerboating. A yacht /ˈjɒt/ is a recreational boat or ship." Much of the rest of the article explicitly covers sailing stuff. Personally I think most of Category:Yachting should be merged to the sailing tree, though categories such as Category:Individual yachts should probably keep the present name. How you deal with the sail/power ambiguity, I'm not sure. Johnbod (talk) 21:44, 6 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Yachting could also be upmerged to Category:Boating (same category description) with sailing categories moved to Category:Sailing or Category:Sailing (sport). Smartskaft (talk) 18:09, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Reportedly haunted locations in Montreal

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 11:47, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining and unencyclopedic -- none of the four articles in this category make any mention of being 'reportedly haunted'. The larger category structure that Grutness has created for 'reportedly haunted' places in Quebec needs to be pruned to cases where it's properly referenced, too. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:35, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Common oxide glass components

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 11:47, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: That an oxide (e.g. Iron(III) oxide or Sulfur dioxide) is commonly (subjective?) used as a component of glass is a WP:NON-DEFINING characteristic of the chemical. This could be listified, but many/most of the articles in this category don't mention glass and there's Glass#Ingredients (which, incidentally, mentions several oxides that aren't in this category). Category:Oxides shows that the main categorization of oxides is by what they are an oxide of - which is very defining. DexDor (talk) 18:38, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Members of the pre-1707 Scottish Parliament

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The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 13:07, 19 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming
Nominator's rationale: per head article Parliament of Scotland, parent Category:Parliament of Scotland, and many siblings such as Category:Members of the Parliament of Scotland 1612‎ &c BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:09, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Pre-Conquest castles

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Castles in England built before 1066. MER-C 11:48, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Pre-Conquest castles to Category:Pre-Conquest Norman castles in England
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Current name is insufficiently specific. There was no consensus at a recent discussion at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2015_February_2#Category:Pre-Conquest_castles, so I thought I would try a different suggestion. – Fayenatic London 07:41, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I strongly support either your rename or Fayenatic's over what is there now. RevelationDirect (talk) 20:40, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
3 of the 4 articles indicated that these castles were built at the direction or were financed by Normans officials in pre-conquest England. But they were likely built largely by Anglo-Saxon labor and the articles give no hint as to what architectural style they used. I'm not saying you aren't right and they weren't Norman styled architecture, but the current articles don't make that clear. RevelationDirect (talk) 15:14, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Might we avoid the whole issue through a rename like Category:Castles built in England before 1066? Neutralitytalk 23:44, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Also agree on proposal by Peterkingiron. Actually prefer this proposal (very slightly) better than the previous. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:20, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, better. Johnbod (talk) 17:25, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Historical Chinatowns in British Columbia

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The result of the discussion was: delete Category:Historical Chinatowns in British Columbia, and add only the article Historical Chinatowns in Nanaimo into Category:Chinatowns in Canada. – Fayenatic London 14:16, 22 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category groups articles about whole towns in BC that once had a Chinese neighborhoods. Some articles have a paragraph about the local Chinatown (1, 2, 3, 4, 5) while others make no reference to a Chinatown at all (6, 7 8, 9, 10, 11, 12). Mostly, these town articles have a single sentence about Chinese residents in the history section which doesn't seem defining. Since Chinese immigrants played such a crucial role in development across B.C., having a small Chinese population at some point in the town's history wouldn't be unusual. RevelationDirect (talk) 03:00, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Note: Notified Skookum1 as the category creator and this discussion has been included in the Canadian Wikipedians' notice board. – RevelationDirect (talk) 03:00, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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