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Category:Personal Experience

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:40, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Vague, incorrect case, had only one member: Personal experience. Squiver (talk) 23:00, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Humangeographic territorial entities

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Whereas there have been good ideas proposed in the discussion, I do not see consensus for any of them, and there was no comments since February. Feel free to renominate with more specific suggestions.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:18, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. "Humangeographic"? Squiver (talk) 22:21, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • But is "humangeographic" a valid (English) word? Squiver (talk) 09:37, 4 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • What other word could there be as an adjective to Human geography? Marcocapelle (talk) 17:37, 4 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
      If there is one, I doubt it's suitable for an encyclopedia. If I had to coin one, "human-geographic" comes to mind -- not "humangeographic", which certainly looks invented to me -- but I'd try not to "write myself into this corner" anyway. "Humangeographic territorial entities" is pretty unwieldy and (as below) seems overdone in two ways: a territory is already an "entity", a "thing"; and by default, I think, unless it's already in a non-human context, the first assumption is that it refers to humans. Squiver (talk) 01:35, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I think the distinction that we should make (and that's why I made my comment about purging) is for example between Military district as an article about an abstract "humangeographic" phenomenon on the one hand and List of American states as an article about concrete territories in a specific region in the world on the other hand. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:29, 4 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I would be perfectly fine with closing this discussion as 'no consensus' and starting a new CfD in order to discuss the broader context of the tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:41, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Airlines Flying To Tehran

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:36, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Don't see the need to have a category that includes all the airlines flying to a given destination. Maybe "[[Category:Airlines flying to the Moon]]" can be accepted but this is too much. Jetstreamer Talk 22:02, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Roman Catholic Churches completed in 1969

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The result of the discussion was: administrative close: speedily deleted. Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:00, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I created it with a typo (capital C), correct name exists Doprendek (talk) 21:45, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry, really belongs in Speedy Deletion, I have since posted there Doprendek (talk) 21:51, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Pre-Conquest castles

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. This close is no bar to an early re-nomination. – Fayenatic London 07:36, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge. Not sure what to do here. This is for pre Norman conquest, based on the comments. The current name is miscapatilized so at minimum, that needs to be fixed. Since that category is not likely to grow, it may fall into the small category for justification. I think upmerge is all that is needed. The questions is, is one category sufficient for the upmerge. If kept, it should probably be renamed to Category:Pre-Norman conquest castles. Open to suggestions. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:17, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
strongly oppose @Vegaswikian
1) Firstly, I strongly disagree on the "pre-Norman conquest castles" rename; de-capitalization shouldn't be done either. The current name is the de-facto standard in the scholarly literature: compare Google Scholar searches for "pre-Norman conquest castle" / "pre-Norman conquest castles" (0 + 0 = 0 results) and "pre-Conquest castle" / "pre-Conquest castles" (16 + 17 = 33 results); also note that "Conquest" is capitalized in virtually every instance in the second case.
2) For basically the same reason I oppose the merge; it is a category of castles that is studied by scholars; it is interesting in its own right, being one of the very few traces of pre-Conquest Norman influences left in existence. The fact that Category:Norman architecture in England can not be transferred from this category to Category:Ruined castles in England should be taken into account, too (we could obviously just add it to the four pre-Conquest castles, but their distinctness would be lost among the other 200+ articles as a result).
3) The size argument is not an argument at all. Category:Argentine popes‎, Category:Whig Party Presidents of the United States and Category:Old English dialects are unlikely to grow any time soon, either.
Primaler (talk) 22:04, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
1) @PrimalerOur naming conventions prevail.
2) Interesting is not defining.
3) WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not an argument. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:34, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Vegaswikian, thanks for the typical wiki-bureaucratic answer, with no links to rules backing the rationale, "I don't care" argument, WP-links, and everything!
Or, to put it in words and not emotions:
a) Why is small size a problem? Is there a policy against it? Please, be more specific.
b) What naming conventions does the name "Pre-Conquest castles" violate? Please, be more specific.
c) As WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS explains, 'These "other stuff exists" arguments can be valid or invalid'. So, please, don't be rude. And yes, please, be more specific.
Primaler (talk) 00:09, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Primaler gives good reasons to keep the category, but Vegaswikian brings up valid concerns with the naming. I do not doubt that "Pre-Conquest castles" is widely used, but per Wikipedia:Categorization#General_conventions we should avoid abbreviations. "Pre-Conquest castles" is an abbreviation for "Pre-Norman conquest castles". Forbes72 (talk) 03:59, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Topics of country subdivisions

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Categories by country subdivision. – Fayenatic London 08:14, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Rename or merge. Requested name is what I think was intended; country subdivisions don't "have" topics. Squiver (talk) 21:06, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:History intrastate divisions

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The result of the discussion was: delete. --BDD (talk) 15:09, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Odd name and only had a single member. Squiver (talk) 20:59, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • You're correct, sorry – it was Category:Historical divisions in Sweden. The name doesn't make sense anyway. Squiver (talk) 01:06, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Towns of Noakhali

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The result of the discussion was: delete. --BDD (talk) 15:08, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Was newly created outside the established hierarchy, and redundant to Category:Populated places in Noakhali District PamD 20:24, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Songs by album

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:37, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
and its subcategories:
  • Category:Songs from Abbey Road‎
  • Category:Songs from The Dark Side of the Moon‎
  • Category:Songs from Quadrophenia‎
  • Category:Songs from Revolver‎
  • Category:Songs from Rubber Soul‎
  • Category:Songs from Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band‎
  • Category:Songs from Tommy‎
  • Category:Songs from The Wall‎
  • Category:Songs from Who's Next‎
Nominator's rationale: Delete. To categorize songs by what album(s) on which they appear seems like overcategorization to me. For starters, one needs only go to the album article to see what songs are on the album (it's called a track listing). Secondly, in each song article in these categories, there are already multiple templates linking readers to every other song from the album in the song's infobox as well as in a navbox for the album. Also, some of the categories contain redirects for songs that take one back to the album for which the category is named, which is just wasteful navigation. As a scheme, this could lead to a big mess. Should a song be categorized by every album it appears on? Say, for example, I can put I Feel Fine in Category:Songs from Past Masters and Category:Songs from 1962–1966? What about songs that have been covered by multiple artists? Let It Be (song) could be placed in categories such as Category:Songs from This Girl's in Love with You, an album by Aretha Franklin. Or what about entire albums of covers? Susan Boyle's I Dreamed a Dream (album) was very popular and, under this scheme, I'd see nothing wrong with creating Category:Songs from I Dream a Dream and putting Wild Horses (The Rolling Stones song) and Daydream Believer in it. I believe this is the path this type of categorization could lead to. The scheme of Category:Songs by artist doesn't need to be narrowed further by each album by the artist. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 19:07, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Ritchie333:. Surely the Thriller template does that more than adequately? If only one category exists then why not for other artists, until every album has it's own category, including No Jacket Required (LOL)? --Richhoncho (talk) 12:30, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I note that, inter alia, Category:The Beatles (album) has been created today as a way of circumventing this discussion. --Richhoncho (talk) 15:05, 4 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:12th-century Christian archbishops

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:28, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Why does Category:Archbishops by century start using "Christian archbishops" from the 12th century on? An archbishop seems to be a position unique to Christianity. There are all in category trees for Christian clergy anyway. --BDD (talk) 18:57, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Discworld articles to be merged

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The result of the discussion was: delete as empty, without prejudice to re-creation if ever needed. – Fayenatic London 09:49, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Strange to have a category for articles to be merged within a specific project. Ricky81682 (talk) 09:41, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment There are many project merge categories, (e.g. Category:School articles to be merged and Wikipedia:WikiProject Schools) It seems like the question hinges more on how used the category is, rather than its association with a specific project. Forbes72 (talk) 03:40, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional assassinated politicians

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Fictional assassinated people. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:30, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale:being more inclusive is better than creating more categories. --173.55.119.156 (talk) 06:39, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People charged with sedition

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The result of the discussion was: Rename and purge. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 15:49, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. We generally do not categorize people by what crimes they were charged with. Sometimes we categorize them by what crimes they were convicted of, so this could be converted to Category:People convicted of sedition if the non-convicts were removed. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:52, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Delta Tau Delta members

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 16:17, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. A consensus was established quite a number of years ago not to categorize people by membership in fraternities or sororities. I don't think this particular one has been created before, though. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:22, 2 February 2015 (UTC) In 2007, this was previous deleted under a slightly different name here. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:00, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • No, not really—I just wanted someone to ask to give me an excuse for listing 27 previous discussions. Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:31, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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