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Category:Military operations involving Polish resistance during World War II

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The result of the discussion was: rename both to Category:Military operations involving the Polish resistance during World War II, for consistency with Category:Polish resistance during World War II. Personally, I weakly agree that the title should include "movement", but any effort to add "movement" should start first with the parent category. -- Black Falcon (talk) 01:44, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose merging Category:Military operations involving Polish resistance during World War II to Category:Military operations involving the Polish resistance movement during World War II
Nominator's rationale: This was meant to be a renaming, but I overlooked the fact that it was a category and manually moved the page instead of nominating it here first, so as a result two categories exist. Anyway I think that merging into Category:Military operations involving the Polish resistance movement during World War II is the better option since the title is more clear in both meaning and grammar, as well as maintaining consistency in naming with Polish resistance movement in World War II. Alcherin (talk) 22:06, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Military campaigns and theatres of World War II involving Australia

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The result of the discussion was: selectively merge to Category:Battles and operations of World War II involving Australia. -- Black Falcon (talk) 02:35, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The 'campaigns' part of this category overlaps heavily with Category:Battles and operations of World War II involving Australia, and I see no reason to split them apart. The 'theatres' articles in this category could be split into a new category 'World War II theatres involving Australia', along the lines of the 2 existing categories Category:World War II theatres involving the United Kingdom‎ and Category:World War II theaters involving the United States‎ (there are only 3). Alcherin (talk) 21:54, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Team physicians

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The result of the discussion was: merge. -- Black Falcon (talk) 20:49, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Sports physicians‎ seems to be a more common term,and a bit wider in scope. Not all sports are team sports. Rathfelder (talk) 20:16, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Italian medical doctors

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The result of the discussion was: merge. In practice, all articles already appear in a subcategory of Category:Italian physicians by century, and most of them do not identify the specific medical specialization, so no merging is required. Please note, this discussion should be construed as setting any precedent within the context of the wider debate of "medical doctor" versus "physician"; however, it is clear these categories are redundant and Category:Italian physicians is part of an established scheme. -- Black Falcon (talk) 02:53, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Established category system for this country Rathfelder (talk) 18:15, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Media and Entertainment in the Mitchell, South Dakota Micropolitan Area

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The result of the discussion was: rename. -- Black Falcon (talk) 22:10, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Media and Entertainment in the Mitchell, South Dakota Micropolitan Area to Category:Media in the Mitchell, South Dakota micropolitan area
Nominator's rationale: Match naming format of similar categories, correct capitalization. Trivialist (talk) 10:12, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wikipedians banned from Jimbo's talkpage

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 22:19, 31 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Violates WP:USERCAT as a category that cannot possibly foster encyclopedic collaboration. Joke/nonsense category. VegaDark (talk) 06:18, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wikipedia Lousy Article contributors

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 22:21, 31 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Funny, but violates WP:USERCAT as a category that cannot foster encyclopedic collaboration. Joke category. VegaDark (talk) 06:10, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Ancient Jewish history of Roman Republic and Roman Empire eras

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The result of the discussion was: merge all nominated. There may be scope for further consolidation, but that's for another day. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:54, 10 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge or reverse merge overlapping categories. See the picture at the category talk page, the picture makes perfect sense until you realize that in this case the white top category is a history category in and by itself, so that a blue subcategory is redundant. Note: I have tagged all six categories, thus allowing a merge or a reverse merge either way. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:25, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • (as nom) I wouldn't have an objection against the previous proposal to merge all six categories into one. From Jewish perspective the distinction between Republic and Empire is quite trivial. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:49, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • @IZAK: By this comment it seems like you're opposing merging Republic and Empire categories. What about the original nomination, to merge history and history categories? Marcocapelle (talk) 06:28, 16 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose all merge proposals as they just do away with useful categories from the Roman POV since this is about both Roman and Jewish history and cannot be swung in either direction to come up with artificial reasons to either merge or delete. Thanks. IZAK (talk) 21:30, 16 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • The proposal as originally nominated does not propose to merge categories from different Roman eras or different Jewish eras, it just proposes to merge categories with an identical scope. That is not a very artificial reason. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:08, 17 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ℯxplicit 05:13, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Category:Ancient Jewish history of Roman Republic and Roman Empire eras to Category:Jewish history of the Roman Republic and Roman Empire eras
  • Category:Ancient Jewish history during the Roman Republic to Category:Jewish history during the Roman Republic
  • Category:Ancient Jewish history during the Roman Empire to Category:Jewish history during the Roman Empire
Rationale: [1] Ancient is clear by eras/republic/empire as specified and thus redundant. [2] "the" seems missing before specific eras. [3] this is primarily about Jewish history hence shouldn't be merged as suggested. gidonb (talk) 03:45, 22 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
IZAK, I'd appreciate your feedback! gidonb (talk) 03:49, 22 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No objection against the new names, but still maintain that Category:Jews and Judaism in the Roman Republic and the Roman Empire and its two subcategories should be included in a merger with these categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:37, 26 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Christian music genres

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:57, 10 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, the category hinders navigation in the sense that if you are in Category:Christian music it's not very intuitive that the well populated Category:Church music and Category:Contemporary Christian music can only be found via this genres category. A direct link would be much more transparent. Besides a categorization by genre is a bit questionable at this level, the music genre is actually "religious music" so this category contains sub-sub-genres. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:01, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ℯxplicit 05:13, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • If kept (which I still don't agree with) it should be renamed to Category:Christian music by subgenre, with a space sort key to improve its accessibility. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:11, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • The reason for this music genre to be a special case is the fact that there is no Albums subcat and a very modest Songs subcat, which is very unlike other genres. So if you want to go to the "core content" of the tree, this subgenre subcat is the only way to go. If we keep the category, it should be highlighted as good as possible. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:45, 26 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I looked at the present subcategories, and none of them is a genre. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:27, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:27, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • No. Thinking again: the German Wikipedia differentiates the two, and Church music - music for the liturgy - is a subcat of Christian music which included concert works with Christian topics. Brahms Ein deutsches Requiem is Christian - with a text of all biblical quotations - but nothing intended to be part of church service. Der 100. Psalm, same thing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:32, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • For me, "liturgical" means things like Mass, but do hymns go. Luther's hymns were in the beginning not even meant for the church, but education. Brahms' Requiem and Reger's Psalm are to my knowledge never performed in church services, often in concert halls rather than in churches. It seems pretty misleading to put them in church music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:32, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm a bit lost how this hinders the proposed nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:46, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Recipients of the Order of Al-Said

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The result of the discussion was: delete. -- Black Falcon (talk) 22:07, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose Deleting Category:Recipients of the Order of Al-Said
  • Propose Deleting Category:Order of Oman
  • Propose Deleting Category:Special Classes of the Order of Oman
  • Propose Deleting Category:Civil First Classes of the Order of Oman
  • Propose Deleting Category:Military First Classes of the Order of Oman
  • Propose Deleting Category:Order of the Renaissance of Oman
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:PERFCAT and WP:OCAWARD (WP:NONDEFINING)
When foreign leaders visit Oman, or vice versa, one of these awards is given out as souvenir to commemorate the visit. Japanese Emeperor Akihito, Malaysian Sultan Perak, and Queen Elizabeth all have received two of these awards while none of the recipients are from Oman. If you want to see the clutter this type of category creates at the article level, take a look the train wreck at the bottom of this article. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:31, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Note: I notified Mimich as the category creator and I added this discussion to WikiProject Oman. – RevelationDirect (talk) 00:31, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ℯxplicit 05:13, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wikipedians who consider themselves participants in many WikiProjects

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 06:27, 31 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose deleting Category:Wikipedians who consider themselves participants in many WikiProjects (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Pointless trivia, with broad/vague inclusion criteria ("many" may mean 150 to you, but 10 to me). Doesn't serve a purpose. The Category:Wikipedians who consider themselves participants in all wikiprojects‎ (which has been made a subcat of the nominated one) is a "wikipolitical" or "wikiphilosophical" position (like inclusionism, eventualism, etc., which we do tolerate user categories for), specifically in favor of WP:5P / WP:EDITING / WP:CONLEVEL and against misinterpretation of wikiprojects as "membership organizations" that can do anything exclusionary. Someone seems to have misinterpreted that cat as part of a "how many wikiprojects are you in?" hat-collecting continuum and has starting fleshing it out with "missing" categories like Category:Wikipedians who consider themselves participants in many WikiProjects; we just have no use for that.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ<  04:15, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wikipedians who wish a lot of users would come back

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 06:30, 31 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose deleting Category:Wikipedians who wish a lot of users would come back (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: At this recent discussion, several editors argued that categories wishing for the return of specific editors serve a positive purpose. This category, however, expresses a similar sentiment for an unspecified "lot of users", and is therefore overcategorization on the basis of a characteristic that is too broadly defined. There is no value in a grouping of users who share an undefined nostalgia for departed users (and possibly not even the same users). -- Black Falcon (talk) 04:13, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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For other colors besides red, just change "#FF0000" to some other code—see Web colors for more information. To add additional categories, just add more bullets on new lines. Cheers, -- Black Falcon (talk) 04:57, 26 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Atheistic/humanistic "scientific" preachers

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 06:32, 31 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is either an advocacy user category or an unnecessary intersection of Category:Atheist Wikipedians and Category:Humanist Wikipedians. There is no need to merge, since the sole user in the category is already in both of the potential merge targets. -- Black Falcon (talk) 04:12, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Admins who are semi-retired and aren't really good for much anymore, but who will very occasionally still use the mop

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 06:34, 31 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose deleting Category:Admins who are semi-retired and aren't really good for much anymore, but who will very occasionally still use the mop (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: While knowing an individual editor's activity status may be helpful, there is no value in browsing through a category of inactive or partially active users. Therefore, this is suitable for a userpage notice but not for a category. Note: there is extensive precedent to delete all categories of Wikipedians by activity status. -- Black Falcon (talk) 04:12, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Songs controversys

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 06:36, 31 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:Overcategorization; in addition to this being misspelled (should be "controversies"), we already have Category:Music controversies that can surely cover any music articles that sparked heavy controversy. Snuggums (talk / edits) 01:21, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This category will talk about music that caused polemicas and controversy over history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BernardEnrique15 (talk • contribs) 01:37, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm aware of what it is intended for, but again, Category:Music controversies already does the same thing. There's no good reason for redundancy here. Snuggums (talk / edits) 01:53, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Knights Grand Cross of the Order of Saint Stanislaus (Ukrainian)

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 06:37, 31 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose Deleting Category:Knights Grand Cross of the Order of Saint Stanislaus (Ukrainian)
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:V and WP:OCAWARD (WP:NONDEFINING)
I'm having trouble confirming that this award exists. There is no main article and the redirect in the category points to a different Russian award. I can find similarly named awards for Poland and Austria online but not Ukraine and I have the same problem at Order of Saint Stanislaus (disambiguation). None of the three biographies in the category even mention the award, let alone have a citation. Let's assume good faith here and say this is an obscure award automatically given to Ukrainian prime ministers: that would hardly be defining. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:08, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
If it can be sourced, that might make an interesting article.RevelationDirect (talk) 01:57, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Oh, damn, if it's part of a Masonic conspiracy, we'd better restore it immediately! Ha ha.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ<  14:04, 2 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Recipients of the Philippine Defense Medal

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The result of the discussion was: delete. -- Black Falcon (talk) 22:04, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose Deleting Category:Recipients of the Philippine Defense Medal
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:PERFCAT and WP:OCAWARD (WP:NONDEFINING)
The Philippine Defense Medal is a WWII medal issued across-the-board to every Filipino and American soldiers present during the Japanese invasion in 1941-2. We traditionally haven't kept categories for campaign medals because career soldiers, like Douglas MacArthur receive many of these automatic participation awards. I just listified the contents of the category here. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:08, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Anmccaff: Thanks for the feedback. We have a Category:Bataan Death March prisoners and, since Camp O'Donnell was the destination of that march, I don't know if it makes sense to create a separate category for the camp as well. Maybe we should create a Cabanatuan subcategory for Category:World War II prisoners of war held by Japan though? RevelationDirect (talk) 00:14, 1 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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