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Years and decades in Rodrigues

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated except merge to Category:History of Rodrigues rather than Category:21st century in Rodrigues. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:19, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging:

Propose deleting:

Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. We don't have anywhere near enough coverage of Rodrigues (an island province of Mauritius) to support by-year categories or even by-decade categories. These 10 categories contain a total of only 3 articles. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:13, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Scientific institutions

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The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 18:50, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: the category name should have been "Scientific institutes" (as per parent cat "Institutes") but even so there's no significant distinction from "Scientific organizations", just a different naming practice. fgnievinski (talk) 23:50, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Agree that the target is a sort of container category, but that simply means that after the merge the articles should be moved deeper down in the tree of Category:Scientific organizations if they aren't already there. The closer of the discussion may list the category on WP:CFDWM for that purpose. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:13, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Sherlock Holmes in television

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 November 6#Category:Sherlock Holmes in television

Category:Geological surveying

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Category:Dairy industry in India

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Dairy farming in India. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:25, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Redundant to Category:Dairy farming in India (which I've separately proposed be renamed to Category:Dairy in India per WP:C2D). 5 of the 7 articles in this cat are dairy product brands, for which Category:Dairy products companies of India already exists. – SD0001 (talk) 18:01, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Moldovan telecommunication navigational boxes

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 November 1#Category:Moldovan telecommunication navigational boxes

Category:Albums produced by Michael Lloyd

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The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 18:51, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Main article is Michael Lloyd (music producer)Justin (koavf)TCM 16:09, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Society of Cinematographers

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The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (talk) 17:43, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Catherine of Alexandria

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:27, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Too little content for an eponymous category. The main category is also overcategorized, so it seems like very few of the articles in it or the subcat need to be categorized into any of those parent categories. The subcat is already part of an established scheme, so removing this won't impact it re: navigation. ―Justin (koavf)TCM 09:51, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Husbands of Roman Emperors

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:29, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, 3 articles, no possibility to have more Roman Emperors with husbands. Should be upmerged to both parents. (t · c) buidhe 20:47, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Suburbs of the Central Coast smallcats

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The result of the discussion was: manually merge as WP:SOFTDELETE. – Fayenatic London 12:54, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Propose manually deleting:
3-page categories
  1. Category:Green Point, New South Wales
  2. Category:Ourimbah, New South Wales
Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Both of these subcats of Category:Suburbs of the Central Coast (New South Wales), Australia is tiny, and likely to have little chance of expansion. They each currently contain only the head article plus two other pages.
In each case, the head article is already in Category:Suburbs of the Central Coast (New South Wales) (so no need to merge), and the other pages don't belong in Category:Suburbs of the Central Coast (New South Wales) (so merger would be wrong). But the categories should be manually checked to ensure that all pages are adequately categorised.
I haven't checked for the availability of other articles to expand the categories; there are too many of these Australian smallcats to check. However, I make the nomination without prejudice to re-creating any of them which can be legitimately populated with more than five pages.
As with many other New South Wales locations, the creation of geographical subcats has been indiscriminate. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:00, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Suburbs of Lake Macquarie smallcats

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The result of the discussion was: manually merge as WP:SOFTDELETE. – Fayenatic London 12:48, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Propose manually deleting:
2-page categories
  1. Category:Morisset, New South Wales
  2. Category:Pinny Beach, New South Wales
  3. Category:Rathmines, New South Wales
3-page categories
  1. Category:Catherine Hill Bay, New South Wales
  2. Category:Wangi Wangi, New South Wales
Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Each of these 5 subcats of Category:Suburbs of Lake Macquarie, Australia is tiny, and likely to have little chance of expansion. They each currently contain only the head article plus one or two other pages.
In each case, the head article is already in Category:Suburbs of Lake Macquarie (so no need to merge), and the other pages don't belong in Category:Suburbs of Lake Macquarie (so merger would be wrong). But the categories should be manually checked to ensure that all pages are adequately categorised.
I haven't checked for the availability of other articles to expand the categories; there are too many of these Australian smallcats to check. However, I make the nomination without prejudice to re-creating any of them which can be legitimately populated with more than five pages.
As with many other New South Wales locations, the creation of geographical subcats has been indiscriminate. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:56, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Suburbs of Newcastle, New South Wales smallcats

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The result of the discussion was: manually merge as WP:SOFTDELETE. – Fayenatic London 12:42, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Propose deleting:
2-page categories
  1. Category:Carrington, New South Wales
  2. Category:Cooks Hill, New South Wales
  3. Category:Hamilton, New South Wales
  4. Category:Newcastle East, New South Wales
  5. Category:Wallsend, New South Wales
3-page categories
  1. Category:Newcastle West, New South Wales
Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Each of these 6 subcats of Category:Suburbs of Newcastle, New South Wales, Australia is tiny, and likely to have little chance of expansion. They each currently contain only the head article plus one or two other pages.
In each case, the head article is already in Category:Suburbs of Newcastle, New South Wales (so no need to merge), and the other pages don't belong in Category:Suburbs of Newcastle, New South Wales (so merger would be wrong). But the categories should be manually checked to ensure that all pages are adequately categorised.
I haven't checked for the availability of other articles to expand the categories; there are too many of these Australian smallcats to check. However, I make the nomination without prejudice to re-creating any of them which can be legitimately populated with more than five pages.
As with many other New South Wales locations, the creation of geographical subcats has been indiscriminate. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:52, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Chlorimides

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus; the discussion was complicated by changes to the category that took place during discussion. This close is without prejudice to a re-nomination. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:31, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: 2,6-Dibromoquinonechlorimide is the only Wikipedia article about a compound containing the diradical =NCl. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 06:44, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hold on, "Nitrogen halides" isn't even the correct parent...should be up one higher, at Category:Nitrogen–halogen compounds. That's also sparse, so I support merging the nominated one into it. DMacks (talk) 07:33, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I have added a third entry now. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 05:38, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that subcats per halogen is reasonable to consider. Here is the high-level layout from commons:
  • Nitrogen-halogen compounds
    • Nitrogen-fluorine compounds
    • Nitrogen-chlorine compounds
    • Nitrogen-bromine compounds‎
    • Iodine-nitrogen compounds‎
    • Nitrogen halides‎
    • Nitrogen oxohalides‎
and some more-specific subcats. The "Nitrogen halides" are simply that (NaXb with no other elements) whereas the "Nitrogen-... compounds" can also have other elements (so each specific "Nitrogen halides" is also in the appropriate "Nitrogen-... compounds"). By contrast, our (enwiki) Category:Nitrogen halides include other elements as well. Having the same meanings as on commons would make it easier to cross-link. Should we clone that high0-level layout and conceptual meanings here as a start? DMacks (talk) 15:22, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@LaundryPizza03: This CFD has now expanded to cover a larger set of cats than just the nominated one. Do you have any comments on those, or should User:Graeme Bartlett work on the wider reorganization independently of the limited CFD-pending outcome of Chlorimides? DMacks (talk) 13:37, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Based on recent changes to the cat, I'm not even sure what the actual topic (as opposed to linguistics) is. Previously it was "=NCl" which would only include C=NCl (imine derivatives) and likewise that N as a double-bonded ligand to other atoms. But then the creator expanded it to also include diacyl nitrogens (imide derivatives). I objected editorially to changing the meaning of the cat while we're discussing it. It seems like this is merging different chemicals or a somewhat ambiguous meaning of the term "chloramide". Even chloramine has "chloramide" as a cited synonym. I do agree that unifying these things in a single cat is reasonable, since the N–Cl aspect is a key topic. But that means it would be equivalent to "Nitrogen-chlorine compounds", which has already been proposed as an upmerge-like solution? DMacks (talk) 13:07, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Unanimous votes of the United States Supreme Court

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:33, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Unanimous votes of the United States Supreme Court to Category:Unanimous decisions of the United States Supreme Court
Nominator's rationale: The Supreme Court not being a legislative body, its decisions are generally not referred to as "votes". BD2412 T 03:31, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The only thought I had to keep was for searching or similar research, and I agree that is a valid purpose. However, I just noticed that including "joined by unanimous" in the search handles it. So I'm not sure we need a cat to accomplish this goal. Looking at ((Infobox court case)), there are actually a whole bunch of fields for listing various concur and dissent, so we do even have flexibility from that single entry-point for finding (for example) all that had unanimous decision but not unanimous opinion (concurrence with no dissent) and such. DMacks (talk) 13:22, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Postdlf: I would agree with renaming to Category:Unanimous opinions of the United States Supreme Court and limiting the category to cases where a single opinion was issued and was joined by all justices without dissent or concurrence. BD2412 T 19:04, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
There have also been cases with unanimous majority opinions yet separate concurring opinions by justices ("I join the Court's opinion in full but write separately to..." blah blah blah). postdlf (talk) 15:03, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • No; a 2018 check indicated that over the 2000-2018 timeframe, unanimous holdings account for only 36% of Supreme Court decisions.[1] TJRC (talk) 21:35, October 17, 2020‎ (UTC)
  • 36% is a huge proportion of the Court’s opinions to be dumping together. I think that shows very clearly that this category isn’t targeting anything special or unusual, as that cited source emphasizes. postdlf (talk) 23:55, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
On the contrary; the importance of unanimity at the Supreme Court has been the subject of scholarly publications:
TJRC (talk) 18:31, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Turberville, Sarah; Marcum, Anthony (June 28, 2018). "Perspective | Those 5-to-4 decisions on the Supreme Court? 9 to 0 is far more common". Washington Post.

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Category:Roller coasters by type

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The result of the discussion was: merge; the target became Category:Types of roller coaster via the discussion immediately below this one. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:39, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose merging Category:Roller coasters by type to Category:Types of roller coasters
Nominator's rationale: Redundant, duplicate categories. Gjs238 (talk) 02:36, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sometimes there are good reasons to do so, but I do not see any particular advantages to do that in this case. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:10, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Types of roller coasters

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The result of the discussion was: rename Category:Types of roller coasters to Category:Types of roller coaster; no consensus to merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:36, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose merging Category:Types of roller coasters to Category:Roller coasters by type
Nominator's rationale: Redundant, duplicate categories. Gjs238 (talk) 02:36, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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