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Category:Shrines in Toyama

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (I will not see your reply if you don't mention me) 23:47, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT: only one page. No upmerge to Category:Shinto shrines in Toyama Prefecture since it has the one page in it. ミラP@Miraclepine 22:51, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Bohemian people by city or town

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (I will not see your reply if you don't mention me) 23:47, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, we usually do not categorize (modern) people by historical region but rather by contemporary administrative division. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:38, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Czech writers by period

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The result of the discussion was: soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the category's undeletion and a list of pages removed from the category can be found here. (non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (I will not see your reply if you don't mention me) 23:47, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete (but first move Category:Czech writers by century under Category:Czech writers), redundant category layer with only two subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:28, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Commonwealth Games coaches

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (I will not see your reply if you don't mention me) 23:44, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, not a defining characteristic, sort of WP:PERFCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:31, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Transport hazards

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (I will not see your reply if you don't mention me) 23:43, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, the only article isn't even about transport specifically. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:23, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Bohemian people by period

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The result of the discussion was: merge and keep respectively. (non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (I will not see your reply if you don't mention me) 23:43, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose merging Category:Bohemian people by period to Category:Bohemian people by century
  • Propose merging Category:People of medieval Bohemia to Category:Bohemian people by century
Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT. All centuries except the 16th, 17th and 18th century are "medieval", and these aren't found directly in Category:Bohemian people by period, so this redundant layer obstructs rather than aids navigation. Same goes for Category:People of medieval Bohemia, which contains exactly the same stuff as Category:Bohemian people by century minus the 16th, 17th and 18th. (We could also upmerge Medieval Bohemian fooers while we're at it, but I don't want to rush things, as these are probably part of more complicated "medieval" trees). Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 19:53, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose this way, Category:People of medieval Bohemia does not only contain people by century, but also people by occupation and women and saints, for which the target is not a good fit. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:43, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Okay, how else might we approach this? Just purge Category:People of medieval Bohemia of all "by century" children? Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 21:24, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • A possibility is merging Category:Bohemian people by period to Category:People from Bohemia and leaving Category:People of medieval Bohemia alone for now. In order to tackle the latter, you'd first have to nominate its subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:05, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
      That's a remarkably simple and elegant way to solve it. So:
      Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 01:03, 6 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Medieval bishops in the Holy Roman Empire

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (I will not see your reply if you don't mention me) 23:41, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Other countries in Western Christianity do not have a similar duplication. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:00, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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European people by country

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (I will not see your reply if you don't mention me) 23:40, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I created all these categories. There is no such thing as "European people". It's not an ethnicity or a nationality. It is a geo-political space. Laurel Lodged (talk) 13:13, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: Category:15th-century European people by country is currently in speedy having been de-populated. Laurel Lodged (talk) 13:36, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand. Who did the de-populating? I can see it wasn't you; you actually created a new subcategory for it today after it was nommed for speedy delete yesterday. Perhaps someone else yesterday emptied it out of process? Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:06, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Faye recategorised a lot on 23 July from Category:15th-century European people by country to Category:15th-century European people by nationality. @Fayenatic london: did you accidentally de-populate this category 3 days ago? Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:18, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oh wait I see the discussion on your talk page now... Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:24, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ok so it was Mason who did it. Liz hasn't dropped him a note yet as LL recommended; Faye did without tagging, but Mason still seems unaware that he ECOOPed.
Ok, I'll do it: @Smasongarrison: Hi, please do not empty categories out of process (ECOOP). As Faye said on his talk page, please take a category here to CFD before you empty it of its last subcategory or item, otherwise it hinders the categorisation process. It looks like you made an unintentional mistake, that can happen. Hopefully you can prevent it next time. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:32, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ahh, yep, I seem to have been the one to accidentally depopulate. My apologies that wasn't my intent. I'll do my best to remember to check that I didn't gut the old category in the future. Mason (talk) 14:56, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 15:55, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Regardless, I support the nominated rename for what's its worth as it's helpful with navigating the distinction between where folks are born versus where folks are serving. Mason (talk) 18:40, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • @DIYeditor: neither is the case. "People in Europe" is meant for people who exercised their occupation in a (part of a) European country: kings of a country, bishops of a diocese. While I think of it, governors of provinces might be added, if the category is kept. "European people" is broader than citizenship, first of all because citizenship is a modern concept and we apply this sort of categories throughout the entire human history. Second, even with modern people, when they move from one country to another, we often do not know if they changed citizenship and still put them in a nationality category of their new country. I have argued in the past that the two category trees might just as well be merged but there was insufficient consensus for that. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:29, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @Marcocapelle: Why don't the above "century European people by country" cats have people other than the sparse few who are in them? I'm new to cats. Shouldn't the categorization be obvious from the name? Shouldn't Category:20th-century German writers be a sub category in some way of Category:20th-century European people by country?
    In other words Category:20th-century European people by country -> Category:20th-century German people -> Category:20th-century German writers? —DIYeditor (talk) 07:03, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Films about cryogenics

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Films about cryonics. (non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (I will not see your reply if you don't mention me) 16:05, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category as its single article is already in Category:Fictional cryonically preserved characters. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:06, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 22:36, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Languages used in Google Translate

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (I will not see your reply if you don't mention me) 16:04, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Not defining. Nardog (talk) 14:20, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
More significantly, this doesn't seem like an interesting or useful intersection. It is an intersection insofar as it suggests future addition of corresponding sets of categories with entries like "Languages of Myanmar translated by ChatGPT". Also suggesting that such categories are to come is another category created by the creator of the cats already being considered here, Category:Languages of Africa with machine translation technology, which I would like to see included in this list or made the subject of its own CFD entry. I don't know which is better, so I'm leaving that question open here.
With a single exception, I suspect that nothing in reliable sources indicates an interest in such breakdowns. (The only exception is that I can imagine, early on, somebody complaining, or suspecting, that services like Google Translates cater entirely to first-world languages, and finding it useful to know that the available languages are diverse.) So, I'm gonna go with overcategorization on this one. Largoplazo (talk) 19:38, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I don't feel as strongly about the "with machine translation technology" categories. Please nominate them separately if you think they should also be deleted. Nardog (talk) 05:31, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Nominator already said "not defining", there is nothing I can add on top of that. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:42, 6 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Just saying that without giving any reason isn't enough. --Haoreima (talk) 14:12, 6 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Dhaka Platoon

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (I will not see your reply if you don't mention me) 16:03, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, and an upmerge of the one article to parent Category:Cricket teams in Bangladesh is inappropriate, so deletion is best course of action. Dhaka Platoon could also be added to this category, but this isn't enough articles to warrant a separate category Joseph2302 (talk) 10:31, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Biostasis in literature

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (I will not see your reply if you don't mention me) 16:03, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename and re-parent per The Pathfinder series, biostasis is not a defining characteristic of these novels, the fact that they are part of a series is. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:34, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per actual contents; there are no non-Pathfinder works in the category. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 12:53, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:DEFA

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Cinema of East Germany. (non-admin closure) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (I will not see your reply if you don't mention me) 16:02, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per opinion at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_July_26#Category:DEFA_people that this category layer is redundant, as DEFA was the only film production company in East Germany. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 00:47, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:National Highways in China

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 11:56, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: "National highway" isn't a generic term with the same meaning everywhere, but a specific designation that varies by jurisdiction. The primary attribute of these categories is the designation by their respective governments, not mere geographical location. The format National highways of Foo would better reflect that. (I have no opinion on whether they should be treated as proper nouns, and have proposed no changes to the capitalisation. I'd be fine with suggestions otherwise.) Paul_012 (talk) 04:39, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Will be listing the alt proposal shortly...
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –LaundryPizza03 (d) 00:31, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:National highways in India has been excluded, as it is a legitimate subcategory of Category:Highways in India, but it may still be renamed per nom and to match the main article, National highways of India. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 00:37, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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