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Category:Russian political parties in Moldova

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Russophilic parties in Moldova. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 11:50, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Russian political parties in Moldova to Category:Pro-Russian political parties in Moldova
Nominator's rationale: None of these parties are "Russian". We are talking about political parties in Moldova, they're Moldovan. However, they take a pro-Russian approach. It does not mean they're "Russian". Super Ψ Dro 23:01, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
They're not ethnic Russian parties so I would accept the second alternative. Super Ψ Dro 07:37, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Nike Inc. advertising

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The result of the discussion was: Rename (non-admin closure) * Pppery * it has begun... 23:57, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Nike, Inc. (with a comma) is the name of the parent category and of the Nike article. Dennis C. Abrams (talk) 21:23, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Parks by year of establishment

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The result of the discussion was: Multi-Merge to Category:Parks established in (decade), and buildings and structures as nominated; and "protected areas" as discussed; as well. And special thanks to User:Marcocapelle, for implementation help : ) - jc37 18:01, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
For the record, the following were created during the discussion and merged likewise. – Fayenatic London 21:15, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]


  • Propose merging
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:09, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • This opens up a new discussion, namely is the nominated tree meant for Parks in a narrow sense (as it is currently) or Parks in a broad sense (as it is in the wider tree that you investigated, i.e. including national and regional parks, also including zoos, gardens and trails)? I am inclined to argue that the similarity between a park and a national park is just in the name. Parks are in essence outdoor structures, while national parks in essence are protected areas. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:01, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I looked at the first five articles and dates by establishment are often challenging which reduces how many could be added to this tree: 1 (Structures built in 1914 made public in 1926), 2 (I couldn't determine a clear date), 3 (designated in 1839, 1844, and again in 1871 but the article makes clear those designations were not honored), 4 ("late 19th century"), 5 (1662). But looking at those specific dates (1662, 1839, 1844, 1871, 1914, 1926), none has a current category so, in addition to presumably adding some articles to current cats, we would also be generating a lot of additional potentially small categories. - RevelationDirect (talk) 05:16, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"Buildings and structures" is a poor choice when many parks have 0 structures, and Category:Protected areas by century of establishment exists. This is a much better parent cat, and already in use for many parks. ɱ (talk) 14:16, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"Buildings and structures" is a poor choice when many parks have 0 structures, and Category:Protected areas by century of establishment exists. This is a much better parent cat, and already in use for many parks. ɱ (talk) 14:16, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"Buildings and structures" is a poor choice when many parks have 0 structures, and Category:Protected areas by century of establishment exists. This is a much better parent cat, and already in use for many parks. ɱ (talk) 14:16, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with User:Ɱ which just boldly removed the B&S parent category. Nonetheless, I suggest we settle only the 1st question in this nomination for now since removing Parks from Buildings & Structures will take a lot of cleanup beyond this CFD nomination. (Take a look at Category:Outdoor structures in Brunei to see an example of that cleanup.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 14:46, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, parks by decade seems to have a consensus forming from the support iVotes and protected areas would address the very valid target category concern raised by the two oppose iVotes. (I don't want to speak for either of the latter though, since they also were encouraging keeping the individual years.)- RevelationDirect (talk) 17:24, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think parks fit under both buildings and structures as well as protected areas and should be added to both. FWIW, they are already under cultural infrastructure.--~~
I really don't think it's on a smallcat nomination if the existing parent categories for a much larger group are potentially incorrect. If there's not a clear consensus for addressing this now, upmerging to the buildings and structures for now would maintain the status quo and we can have a subsequent nomination on the parenting issue. RevelationDirect (talk) 10:16, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
+1 for Parks by decade, FWIW Crowsus (talk) 20:47, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • The question is not whether the tree can easily be expanded. Sure, many years are still missing. But the question is whether the categories can be better populated other than by adding national parks which are a completely different thing than "city parks" and only share the park name. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:43, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • The exception mentions large established tree for a reason. A tree with mainly very poorly subcategories does not make sense. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:02, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Rulers of Milan

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The result of the discussion was: No consensus This close was discussed at Wikipedia:Discussions for discussion#Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 28#Category:Rulers of Milan * Pppery * it has begun... 15:33, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Virtually all members in this category were "Lord of Milan". I suggest we manually (re)move everyone who might not fit "Lord of Milan" (e.g. Carlo Gonzaga of Milan?) to somewhere else. The subcategories Category:Dukes of Milan and Category:Duchesses of Milan have been made its siblings rather than its children in the Category:Nobility from Milan. The new sibling Category:Ladies of Milan has also been created for the consorts of the Lords of Milan. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 00:07, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: @Nederlandse Leeuw: Then it's done.
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Thanks! Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 20:51, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Draft articles on comics and anime

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Category:Immigrants to the Colony of New Zealand

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The result of the discussion was: manual merge as per nom. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 13:26, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Until very recently, people who migrated to New Zealand were all in the same tree Category:Immigrants to New Zealand and its many subcats. User:Johnpacklambert has created this new cat for the 19th c. migrants, and is depopulating the many subcats of the original global cat by removing people who moved to New Zealand in the 19th c, e.g. here, here and here. The end result of this new division is thus that we have less informative categories on the articles, and less people in the correct New Zealand cat, all for the sake of some pedantry. This should be undone. Fram (talk) 16:17, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Imperial Chinese people by occupation

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 17#Imperial Chinese people by occupation

Category:Rulers of Lithuania

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The result of the discussion was: alt (downmerge and rename). (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:08, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose downmerging Category:Rulers of Lithuania to Category:Lithuanian monarchs
  • Alt proposal: downmerge Category:Rulers of Lithuania to Category:Lithuanian monarchs; rename Category:Lithuanian monarchs to Category:Monarchs of Lithuania
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT 1 C, 0 P. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 01:01, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Alt proposal rationale: In addition to downmerging, the resultant category should also be renamed from Fooian monarchs to Monarchs of Foo, as the latter is more precise (suggested by Laurel Lodged and Marcocapelle; see also "Suggestion B" at the "Category:Monarchs of Bohemia" CfD, where the same point has been made). Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 12:14, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Per LL's comments.
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  • Further elabotation I think that a renmaed "Rulers" to Category:Monarchs of Lithuania could sit in parallel with Category:Lithuanian monarchs. Some monarchs of Lithuania were not Lithuanian nationals (e.g. John II Casimir Vasa). Some Lithuanian monarchs were monarchs of states that were not in Lithuania (e.g. King of Hungary). Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:11, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Care to elaborate? In what sense they were non-Lithuanian nationals? Also if monarch of Lithuania isn't Lithuanian national, then who really is? Marcelus (talk) 07:47, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sure. John II Casimir Vasa was Polish of Swedish descent. Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:06, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
First of all, this is not a elaboration. Secondly, you are talking about his ethnicity, and it so happens that on both sides he was descended from the Jagiellons, who were of Lithuanian descent. Apart of that he also had Swedish, German, Italian, French etc. descendants. But this is irrelevant. Because he was a Grand Duke of Lithuania, and you cannot be more Lithuanian than that. Marcelus (talk) 11:33, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcelus: You should be bound by your own logic. In a CFD on March 25th you wrote: "people from Palestine and Palestinian people aren't the same". The same applies to Lithuania and Lithuanian. Laurel Lodged (talk) 12:10, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Again, you need to elaborate. And please explain what you understand by "Lithuanian national"? Marcelus (talk) 13:36, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcelus: Perhaps I could better answer if your were to first explain what you meant by "Palestinian people". Laurel Lodged (talk) 13:54, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think good idea is to stay on topic here. Marcelus (talk) 14:10, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think it is a very bad idea to have Category:Monarchs of Lithuania in parallel with Category:Lithuanian monarchs because of the enormous overlap and (based on above discussion) because of disagreement about what Lithuanian monarchs means if not monarchs of Lithuania. There should be one category and the slightly more precise name is Category:Monarchs of Lithuania. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:50, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
OK then. Just 1. Laurel Lodged (talk) 15:54, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Romanian people by ethnic or national origin and occupation

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 17#Category:Romanian people by ethnic or national origin and occupation

Category:Fictional zebras

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Category:Cricket events official songs and anthems

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The result of the discussion was: Merge (non-admin closure) * Pppery * it has begun... 23:57, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:OVERCAT and WP:ARBITRARYCAT. The fact that these songs were used at different World Cup events doesn't mean they need a separate category. They are already appropriately categorised in the tournament categories Category:2011 Cricket World Cup and Category:2014 ICC World Twenty20, but having a category of "official songs and anthems" is unnecessary overcategorisation Joseph2302 (talk) 10:55, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Cricket paintings

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The result of the discussion was: Merge (non-admin closure) * Pppery * it has begun... 23:57, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, only 3 articles and unlikely that there are any more notable cricket paintings likely to get separate articles Joseph2302 (talk) 10:52, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Cricket poems

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The result of the discussion was: Merge (non-admin closure) * Pppery * it has begun... 23:57, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, as only 3 articles, and When an Old Cricketer Leaves the Crease is about a song not a poem. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:51, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Filmmakers from Bosnia and Herzegovina

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The result of the discussion was: Merge (non-admin closure) * Pppery * it has begun... 23:57, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Identical topic ★Trekker (talk) 04:35, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Rape victims in Brazil

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The result of the discussion was: Merge (non-admin closure) * Pppery * it has begun... 23:57, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: SMALLCAT ★Trekker (talk) 02:51, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:The Hellenic Society for Systemic Studies Award

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The result of the discussion was: Delete (non-admin closure) * Pppery * it has begun... 23:57, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCAWARD and WP:NONDEFINING We don't have a main article on either award but we do have two redirects that both point to the Hellenic Society for Systemic Studies, a Greek scientific organization. These biography articles don't treat the award as defining, mentioning it in passing with other honors (except for one where the category creator added it to the intro). The contents are already listified right here in the organization article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:04, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Fraternity Award

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The result of the discussion was: Delete (non-admin closure) * Pppery * it has begun... 23:57, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose Deleting Category:Fraternity Award
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCAWARD, WP:PERFCAT, and WP:NONDEFINING
The Fraternity Award is given to artists by the B'nai B'rith of Uruguay and consists of a trip to Israel and Europe so the winner can perform a concert, exhibition, play, or lecture. It sounds like a neat cross-cultural exchange but the biography articles don't treat the performance as defining, generally mentioning it in passing. The contents are already listified right here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:04, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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