Wellington Meetup 23 May 2020[edit]

Venue[edit]

The group are meeting virtually while the Covid-19 higher alert levels in New Zealand occurs. Virtual Meeting at this link https://meet.jit.si/WellingtonWikimediaMeetup

Future Meetups[edit]

This is a fortnightly event but double check the Wikipedia:Wellington Meetup page to confirm.

Join the Wikimedia User Group of Aotearoa New Zealand to be kept informed.

Also see Wikipedia:New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board for discussion relevant to New Zealand Wikipedians.

People[edit]

Add your name to the list by adding an asterisk and four tildes like this: * Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 15:22, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Attending

  1. Einebillion
  2. Quilt Phase
  3. David Nind
  4. Ambrosia10
  5. Giantflightlessbirds
  6. Oronsay
  7. Gertrude206
  8. MargaretRDonald (talk) 21:21, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  9. Jonathanischoice
  10. DrThneed
  11. MurielMary (talk) 23:07, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unable to come

Agenda

At the Feb 15 meeting the attendees discussed what could be improved to make the meetups more effective. The decision was more focus on tools and demonstrations of tools.

Outcomes[edit]

General discussion on what people are doing.

Action point MurielMary agreed to to investigate via the affiliate rep at the Wikimedia Foundation whether there is a notification system for user groups.

https://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Wikimedia_Australia
https://wikimedia.org.uk/

Action point Einebillion to raise this discussion as an agenda point for the next meeting

Issues

Could I seek help from the group about the Public Domain Mark and CC0? This is to resolve a Deletion Notification for an image I uploaded to Commons from my Flickr account: File:Vickers anti-aircraft predictor.jpg. Quilt Phase (talk) Group noted answer by Giantflightlessbirds. Einebillion explained that Creative Commons Zero (CC0) is a Creative Commons copyright licence and waiver that allows those that own copyright in works to waive all their copyright rights to the work. People automatically own copyright in the works they create (unless it's a commissioned work or work done in the course of their employment). This waiver ensures that the owner of the copyright can give the work to the public domain. The waiver is a legal assertion and cannot be revoked. Alternatively the public domain mark provided by Creative Commons is an indication that, where this mark has been asserted, that there is a belief that no further copyright rights exist in the work in multiple legal jurisdictions. Because Wikimedia Foundation servers are in the USA copyright must be cleared for both the New Zealand and the USA legal jurisdictions. To figure out whether a work has ascended to the public domain in the USA check out the handy Public Domain in the USA webpage at Cornell University. In the case of this image Quilt Phase is the sole copyright owner as they were the creator of the image and the image does not depict a copyright work. Quilt Phase changed the copyright status from Public Domain to a Creative Commons Zero (CC0) copyright waiver on the Flickr copy of the work but was wondering how to edit the upload that had been challenged in Wikimedia Commons. Ambrosia10 encouraged being brave with resolving challenged work and, once resolved, the challenge information can be safely removed. The CC0 copyright template is here. Ambrosia10 edited the entry to demonstrate how to action going forward. General discussion about the frustration of seeing public galleries, libraries, archives, and museums adding Creative Commons copyright licensing or All Rights Reserved assertions to images that are clearly in the public domain. Particular mention of Dunedin Public Art Gallery and Hocken Library and University of Otago. General discussion on ways this can be challenged involving emailing and corresponding with the institutional leadership, boards, and representatives of funding agencies responsible for funding organisations. Group acknowledged that some organisations in New Zealand are best practice e.g. Culture Waitaki's online collection https://collection.culturewaitaki.org.nz/explore CC BY 4.0 or no known copyright. Two participants agreed to meet up separately to discuss a way forward with Dunedin institutions.

Jonathanischoice asked about maps in Wikipedia - more specifically how to add maps to info boxes. No one was that familiar with this functionality. David Nind suggested reviewing this Wikipedia page and this Wikipedia Weekly video.

David Nind asked about using Author Disambiguator. Giantflightlessbirds demoed the Author Disambiguator tool. Main points to note were

David Nind demonstrated their workflow using the Internet Archive Wayback Machine browser plugin Demoed using Internet Archive Wayback Machine browser plugin to archive web pages as part of referencing edits to wikipedia pages. The link to find this plugin in the Chrome Store is https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/wayback-machine/fpnmgdkabkmnadcjpehmlllkndpkmiak
Video extraction and import into Wikimedia Commons Group discussion on the difficulties and work-arounds required to get videos into Wikimedia Commons. Quilt Phase talked through his process. Ambrosia10 shared their process for downloading video from YouTube then uploading to Wikimedia Commons. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GlxJnOzHJtiyG6p-oVTmq1mUDmWk_JiOIPT-ohVN1G8/edit?usp=sharing David Nind suggested loading video to Internet Archive and provided a link to the guide https://help.archive.org/hc/en-us/articles/360017808151-Movies-and-Videos-A-Basic-Guide- and https://archive.org/details/movies

Action Points

Next meeting and Meetup timetables