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If looks could kill...

Btw, where did this come from? Simply south (talk) 00:31, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

• Neutral Oppose - Doesn't make sense. No idea where, but good idea. I just don't like the links, maybe CVU? —mono 01:35, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - I tihnk it works. Took me a minute to get the meaning, though. :) ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 03:10, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
• Neutral don't understand it either. Kayau Voting IS evil 10:42, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - Actually, this one makes sense to me. Seems a bit violent, but I heard the phrase used in jest mostly, so maybe we wouldn't actually kill the vandals. PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 00:15, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support ~ If Looks Could Kill is a 1991 film, soundtrack and song, but there is a line from 1986 film, Down by Law, where Roberto says: "If looks could kill, I am a-dead now". It's not so easy to reply to this question. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:02, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Approved per consenus; with four supports, one neutral and one oppose. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 05:00, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Give a little bit of your time to me

OK it's lame, I know, but it's a cool song and everyone can give a little bit of their time to Wikipedia... --khfan93 (t) (c) 03:32, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

• Weak support How about WP:DUSTY or CAT:WIKIFY, to push some less-viewed pages? sonia^♫♪ 13:26, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
• Conditional weak support (edit 1). Kayau Voting IS evil 14:29, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
• Conditional Support Edit 1 is a tad better. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 05:02, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - I like both versions. WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 12:02, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Give a little bit of your time to me

Edit 1 - Last link replaced with Sonia's; the other two I think fit, so I put them there. Kayau Voting IS evil 14:29, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

• Comment - Kayau! You seem to have a problem making subsections. I seem to always be fixing that for you. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 05:01, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Reply - yeah, I've been making that mistake over and over since I joined. :P Thanks for fixing it for me. Kayau Voting IS evil 14:46, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - I like the message. Good job. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 05:02, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - See my above comment. WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 12:03, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - both are good, but this one slightly more so. PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 19:08, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:05, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

 Declined Original and Approved Edit 1 Per consensus.--LAAFan 19:48, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

→ The mind is its own place and in itself, can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven.

~AH1^(TCU) 00:22, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support - This shows even good intentions can somehow turn bad and vice versa. Derild4921☼ 01:04, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - Good message. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 04:50, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support ~ well done! –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:14, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Approved Per consensus.--LAAFan 19:46, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Oh, swiftly glides the bonnie boat,
Just parted from the shore,
And to the fisher's chorus-note,
Soft moves the dipping oar!

Joanna Baillie (1762–1851), "Oh, Swiftly glides the Bonnie Boat" (1815) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:16, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

• Comment weird. It was approved before, but I can't search it in the schedule. Anyone got any idea of what is going on? Kayau Voting IS evil 07:23, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
• OH /o\ BEEP OFF!!! SORRY!!! And, what's going on? –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:05, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

 Declined (USED BEFORE; SORRY!) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:05, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

One step at a time.

I'm not sure where this is from, but I thought I'd give it a try! Derild4921☼ 14:22, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

• Strong oppose. Kayau Voting IS evil 14:37, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
• Strong Oppose - Used before. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 23:46, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
• Weak oppose - Reused before, but not too recently. —mono 04:18, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
• Weak support - Length of time between mottoes doesn't negate the fact that we're repeating them. However, if we do hit a dearth of mottoes in the future (which, in all likelihood, may happen), we should have this one saved up. It's not half bad, either. —La Pianista ^{♫ ♪} 04:27, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
• Weak Support because "One step at a time, there's no need to rush" has been used on October 10, 2008, and "One step at a time, who could suppose what together we'll find?" on October 13, 2008. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:19, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

 Reopened - no consenus, with 3 supports and three opposes. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 18:03, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

• Strong Oppose - Been used before. Simon^KSK 18:07, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

 Declined Per WP:SNOW--LAAFan 18:37, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Every Generation Has A Legend. Every Journey Has A First Step. Every Saga Has A Beginning.

Found this on Wikiquote. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 01:38, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

• weak support because the first link is strange. BTW WQ is not CamelCase. Kayau Voting IS evil 01:41, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
• comment um, by that I mean it's Wikiquote, not WikiQuote or Wiki Quote. WikiQuote has a red underline in chrome btw. Kayau Voting IS evil 01:47, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Oh. I just fixed it. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 01:48, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose - Every article isn't an FA, and every userpage doesn't have a tutorial. I'll try to make a better one. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 01:52, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

reply: It's not saying that every article is FA, it means that in every bunch of articles, there is at least one FA. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 01:59, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

• Weak oppose - I understand what you mean by linking to FA, out of every generation (group of articles) one or two might become FAs, but I think its meaning is a bit unclear. I also think that FA is used way to much by MOTD so I prefer Edit 1. WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 17:34, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Every Generation Has A Legend. Every Journey Has A First Step. Every Saga Has A Beginning.

Is this better? ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 01:52, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support - great links, sort of an epic feel. This one is better than the original. PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 14:28, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - I prefer this over the original. WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 17:35, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support + note: WP:USER points to Wikipedia:User pages, while WP:USERS points to Wikipedia:Wikipedians. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:27, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support per above. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 18:04, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

 Declined Original and Approved Edit 1 per consensus.--LAAFan 18:34, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Do not be wise in your own eyes.

~AH1^(TCU) 00:22, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support. Simple, logical, and a good reminder. --khfan93 (t) (c) 03:32, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
• Conditional Support In favor of Edit 1. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 04:55, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support over edit #1 and #2.--Forty two^{Thanks for all the fish!} 01:28, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - the best one, without adding legs to snakes. Kayau Voting IS evil 01:42, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support ~ This is a classic! –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:13, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Do not be wise in your own eyes; fear the Lord, shun evil.

Edit 1. ~AH1^(TCU) 00:22, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose - Jimbo isn't really own "lord"... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Derild4921 (talk • contribs)
• Support Hah! Funny! I like it! ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 04:55, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose we should not fear Jimbo. Kayau Voting IS evil 01:42, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Do not be wise in your own eyes; fear the Lord, shun evil.

Edit 2. ~AH1^(TCU) 00:22, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose - I don't like the "fear" link. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 04:55, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose, same reason as above. Kayau Voting IS evil 01:42, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Approved Original and  Declined Edits 1 and 2 per consensus.--LAAFan 18:32, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

→ We are all apprentices in a craft where no one ever becomes a master.

Picked off WQ - no idea where it comes from. Kayau Voting IS evil 14:26, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support. Equality! ~AH1^(TCU) 14:30, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - Hemingway is always a good choice. :) Good message. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 05:06, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - Really great! PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 17:22, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 22:01, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 11:53, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
• Strong Support ~ This is simply adorable!!! –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:02, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/October 10, 2010 (per consensus; 7 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:21, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

→ I believe the children are our future
Teach them well and let them lead the way

It's a good message, but slightly bland I suppose. sonia^♫♪ 13:26, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support - Actually I really like this, also tells not to bit the newcomers. Why not link future to future as well? Derild4921☼ 14:22, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
• Weak oppose parents are usually higher than children, so experienced editors are higher than novices? Kayau Voting IS evil 14:27, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Where did the idea of parents come from? By children here I am referring to the fact that they are learning quickly about the world, somewhat more new to it, more optimistic and creative, more open to ideas. And thus, if we help them settle in, they will help change Wikipedia with their new ideas. It is true that it is sometimes necessary to "talk down" to children to explain things to them, but I don't feel that that makes us "higher", per se. (I actually think people patronise children too much, and I guess the same goes for newbies.) sonia^♫♪ 19:33, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
    • Weak support - thanks for reopening, hi878. While it is true that I may have misunderstood the quote, it may be interpreted that way; some newbies may even take offence, should this be the way they interpret it. So, weak support. Kayau Voting IS evil 23:30, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support. Although some of the current editors may contribute the greatest depth, most of the contributions made to Wikipedia are by newcomers and they may end up being the ones to edit to the most depth as many long-timers retire and it makes it easier for contributors to lead when they arrive in a welcoming atmosphere. ~AH1^(TCU) 14:32, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - Very good message. I think Kayau's point was addressed sufficiently. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 05:05, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Approved for October 2. Belugaboy^{how's my driving?} 22:57, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

• Comment I have decided to overturn this closure, as this discussion is only a day old, and this does not fall under WP:SNOW. Even if it is a snow closure, I still think that you should wait a week. One day is most certainly too soon. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 01:55, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - nice one, Sonia. Newbies are important. PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 23:31, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
• Strong support - I remember when I was a newbie, when dinosaurs ruled the earth and TV's weren't invented. (just over a year ago) WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 12:00, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support! Good message.--Forty two^{Thanks for all the fish!} 02:38, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:04, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/October 9, 2010 (per consensus; 9 in support and 0 opposed or so) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:18, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

→ All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree.

I like the message of the quote, but couldn't find the best links. Derild4921☼ 12:32, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

• Weak oppose so sciencce is a part of religion? Kayau Voting IS evil 12:40, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Reply - No, it is saying that religion and science are part of one greater topic, they may be called separate things, but they are still in one broader subject. The message I want to send is that even though there are many subdivisions in Wikipedia, we mustn't that every editor is still doing something for Wikipedia, not the task force or WikiProject. Derild4921☼ 23:03, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
    • Reply no, task forces are parts of WikiProjects, so sciences are parts of religion. Kayau Voting IS evil 02:25, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
• Weak support - I like the idea, but as Kayau pointed out, I think "sciences" could be linked better. PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 13:55, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose Per Kayau. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 03:09, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose - Per Kayau. Simon^KSK 18:37, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose in favor of Edit 1. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 02:36, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

 Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:12, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

→ All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree.

Edit 1 with List of Topics instead. Derild4921☼ 14:33, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support cool, sure. A good message particularly for newbies from WB. Kayau Voting IS evil 14:44, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - Good message, no problem with the links. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 03:09, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
• weak oppose - Very unoriginal links. Simon^KSK 18:37, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Reply - actually, it's good for newbies who have just come from Wikibooks or Wikiversity, where there are many separate works rather than one whole work. Kayau Voting IS evil 23:57, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support ~ I prefer this version. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:09, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support. Good multicultural message. ~AH1^(TCU) 01:57, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support – Links work better than the original. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 02:36, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Motto of the day/October 8, 2010 (per consensus; 6 in support and 1 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:12, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

For those who are reading this in the archives, pjoef meant to link to WP:Motto of the day/October 8, 2010. Kayau Voting IS evil 11:22, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

→ We want to achieve democracy without violence or vulgarity.

That's what she always says every time these people are mentioned. Not biased, just a motto. Kayau Voting IS evil 13:25, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support •martyx• tkctgy 15:31, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - It works. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come yell at me!)} 18:43, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

  After seeing the comments below, I have realized that this doesn't quite work, so I am switching to Oppose. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 14:11, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support - good point, good links. PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 13:14, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Given some points raised, and rereading it, the entire quote does not actually make sense. So, oppose PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 14:47, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
• Weak Oppose ~ She doesn't know the meaning of the word "democracy" .... but this has nothing to do with MOTD. I like the phrase, but not the first link. It states that we want to achieve democracy but "Wikipedia is not a democracy." –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:04, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose - I agree with Pjoef: it doesn't make sense. —mono(how's my driving?) 02:54, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

 Reopened - No consensus... —mono 00:06, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose - Agree that first link doesn't make sense. Derild4921☼ 12:27, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose – First link makes no sense. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 02:45, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

 Declined (no consensus; 2 in support and 5 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:08, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Carpe diem, seize the day, boys. Make your lives extraordinary.

John Keating portrayed by Robin Williams in Dead Poets Society directed by Peter Weir; written by Tom Schulman; starring Robin Williams, Robert Sean Leonard, Ethan Hawke, Kurtwood Smith, Gale Hansen, Norman Lloyd; music composed by Maurice Jarre; editing by William M. Anderson (1989). This quote is ranked #95 in the American Film Institute's list of the top 100 movie quotations in American cinema. I know the last link is [a bit] eXtreme (^___^) ... but aren't we trying to promote Wikipedia? –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:16, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

• Note Carpe diem ("seize the day") by Horace has been showed on September 17, 2009, but here it is used in a different context. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:09, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
• Weak Oppose - Used before, but different context, so... ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 14:06, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support. Encourages new contributors to edit, but not all editors are male. ~AH1^(TCU) 16:08, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
• Comment I think that most people who read MOTD are registered newbies rather than anons? Kayau Voting IS evil 23:45, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Reply: Why? The MOTD templates are (usually/mainly) showed on users' pages. You can visit those pages without having to be a registered user/editor (for example by following a link in a search engine result page.) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:09, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - Links fit really well Derild4921☼ 23:43, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - good quote, well linked. The only consideration is that most anons won't read it. PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 00:19, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support, because it takes a really cool quote from a really cool movie and uses it to make what could almost be an advertisement for wikipedia. --khfan93 (t) (c) 03:32, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
• Weak oppose - I like the motto and its links lots but I immediately recognised it as being used earlier as a motto - I had to read the comments see it was actually different. Editors who often have a look at MOTD may also remember and think it's the same. WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 12:55, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support – What's wrong with a bit of repeats? The quote and the links work well. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 02:51, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
  • How about a compromise: After this motto gets approved or rejected, the phrase will be added to FUI. What do you think? Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 16:15, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
    • Yes, but only if it will be approved, otherwise it is unnecessary.  Done –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:24, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/October 7, 2010 (per consensus; 6 in support and 2 opposed; phrase added to FUI) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:45, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

→ If you do not speak English, I am at your disposal with 187 other languages along with their various dialects and sub-tongues.

The motto means "if the reader can't understand English Wikipedia, there are other Wikipedias in different languages". Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 02:28, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

• support- I like it. sonia^♫♪ 04:23, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - Very good. Nice message. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 05:08, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - But Wikipedia doesn't have 187 different languages and dialects. ;) Derild4921☼ 13:09, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
• Condional support (edit 1). Kayau Voting IS evil 14:48, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - cool! I like the message. PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 17:21, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - Great motto! WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 11:49, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

 Declined in favor of Edit 1 (I know that this has more supports, but edit 1 is clearly the better one) Simon^KSK 14:08, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

→ If you do not speak English, I am at your disposal with 187 other languages along with their various dialects and sub-tongues.

Removed not-really-that-necessary-even-though-it-makes-us-look-a-bit-smart links. Kayau Voting IS evil 14:48, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support - But I like those kind of links... :) Either one of these is fine. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 16:51, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
• This is slightly better. No strong preference though. sonia^♫♪ 21:40, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
• Better - Seems to work. —mono 23:47, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - I don't mind either as they're so similar, though I slightly prefer the original. WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 11:51, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Approved per consensus. Simon^KSK 14:08, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

→ If there hadn't been an Elvis, there wouldn't have been the Beatles.

I know it's a bit simplistic, but it's worth a shot. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 19:28, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support - Indeed. But you know, not only Elvis inspired the Beatles. Anyway, good links and good quote. Simon^KSK 19:37, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
  • I'm fully aware of that. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 19:48, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
    • You should be. :D Simon^KSK 19:53, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
      • Well considering that I'm a Beatles fan too, it's a bit impossible to forget. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 19:55, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support - it's good. However, Elvis and the Beatles are different individuals while Nupedia is just what Wikipedia used to be - Nupedia didn't inspire Wikipedia, but it preceded it. Kayau Voting IS evil 06:52, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support ~ "If there hadn't been GNUPedia, there wouldn't have been Nupedia." –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:17, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
• Weak support. This motto illustreates the basic Wikipedia concept well, but it is a bit too simplistic to portray a chain of events that the Internet can set forth. ~AH1^(TCU) 00:41, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - I think it works. Good links. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 04:44, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Approved per consenus. Simon^KSK 22:24, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Friends can help each other.

James Douglas "Jim" Morrison (1943–1971) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:16, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support - Looks good to me. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 14:07, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
• Neutral - huh? What is it talking about? Kayau Voting IS evil 14:43, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Reply - people at the ref desk help each other find answers, etc. It's kind of a cumulative pooling of knowledge/ability to research. PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 14:53, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
    • Weak support - I seldom answer questions from wikipedians I have met or ask questions which are answered by wikipedians I have met (well, zero times of the former and only one of the latter), so IMO this isn't the best RD motto. Kayau Voting IS evil 16:00, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - well, if you want to get technical, most aren't friends at RF, but the general idea works. It's definitely a good, different link. PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 14:53, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
• Neutral, leaning to oppose - per Wikipedia:HOMEWORK. —mono 01:38, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
• Weak support - Not very exciting. WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 12:58, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Approved per consenus. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 22:27, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Labor omnia vincit
("Hard work conquers all")

The phrase appears in Virgil's Georgics, Book I, in the form Labor omnia uicit improbus ("Dishonest work overcomes all things"). Motto of many labor movements, many townships, cities, and states. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:46, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose - I don't see how it makes sense, IMHO. Kayau Voting IS evil 09:01, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
• Strong Oppose - ... What? Fix the links. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come yell at me!)} 20:06, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
• leaning toward oppose, but if you explain the links.... PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 18:26, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
• Comment: DUNNO /o\!!!! I wrote it long ago. I think I liked both the links to the Wikipedia readers (Wikipedia:Readers first and WP:READERS) and by mistake I have replaced the first link with WP:RF. If I remember well, the first link pointed to Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia or Wikipedia:How to edit a page. I'm adding I added two new versions below. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:34, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
• Strong oppose - per above, the links don't make sense. WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 13:08, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose – The links make no sense. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 02:48, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Labor omnia vincit
("Hard work conquers all")

Edit 1 with Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia and WP:READERS –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:34, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support My favorite. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 23:23, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - I like it. —mono 01:18, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose seems to give the impression that contributing to WP is labour. Kayau Voting IS evil 23:43, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Reply: labour/labor is the effort expended on a particular task/work. It makes sense to me. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:40, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - This one works very nicely. And Kayau, it is work of a sort, whether we enjoy it or not. PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 14:49, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Reply - it's work, but not HARD work. I recall reading from User:I dream of horses's userpace. She says she's unemployed, so she treats WP kind of like a job. Would she do that if editing WP was 'hard' work? Kayau Voting IS evil 00:03, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
    • Reply: the more editors work hard the more Wikipedia grows. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:44, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
• Weak support - I think this is the best version but the links still aren't that great, as Kayau said I think it implies editing Wikipedia is hard work and though it might take time and effort to create a good article, hard work sounds like a bad thing. WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 13:11, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support – The links work nicely. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 02:49, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Labor omnia vincit
("Hard work conquers all")

Edit 2 with Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia and Wikipedia:Readers first –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:34, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

• Second Preference - Second favorite. This works, but I like Edit 1 a tiny bit more. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 23:23, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

 Reopened ALL VERSIONS (no consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:54, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose same reason as above. Kayau Voting IS evil 23:43, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
• Weak support in favor of Edit 1. PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 00:17, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
• Weak oppose - the second link isn't very good and Edit 1 is better. WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 13:18, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

 Declined Original and Edit 2 and Approved Edit 1 per consenus. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 22:10, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

→ A journey of thousand miles begins with one small step.

This motto shows that Wikipedia is always going forward. --Extra 999 (Contact ^me + _contribs) 14:30, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

• Strong oppose - used before. Why is Lao-tzu so popular? I mean, he was an awesome philosopher, but why is this motto so often used? It's going to FUI. Kayau Voting IS evil 14:45, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Oh, abandon it please, if so. --Extra 999 (Contact ^me + _contribs) 14:53, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

I will. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 21:10, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Rejected - Used before; nominator withdrew. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 21:10, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

→ My name is Khan and I am not a terrorist.

Just trying out something new.--Forty two^{Thanks for all the fish!} 00:10, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose - lol, doesn't make much sense to me. Kayau Voting IS evil 00:11, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
• weak oppose - It makes sense, and it's a bit humorous, but a better link would be nice. Simon^KSK 00:18, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
• Weak support - But I prefer Edit 1. WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 13:41, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
• Weak Support Edit 1 is far better. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 04:43, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
•  Declined\ Rejected in favour of edit 1. Simon^KSK 14:20, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

→ My name is Khan and I am not a terrorist.

Edit one with IPs are human too instead. Derild4921☼ 01:44, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support better version. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:25, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
• yes This is good! sonia^♫♪ 09:04, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support. Encourages AGF, even implicitly. ~AH1^(TCU) 00:48, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support. I don't know the source but in this context it seems really cool way of phrasing AGF. --khfan93 (t) (c) 03:32, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - Great links, well done Derild4921! WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 13:42, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
• Hah! - Made me laugh, the links work. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 04:43, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support Very creative! Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 04:48, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
• Approved per WP:SNOW. Simon^KSK 14:20, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
• boo-hoo-hoo - I've been a bit busy this couple of days and didn't notice this. Although this is closed, I still want to support it. Kayau Voting IS evil 14:23, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Rejected - Used before; nominator withdrew. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 21:10, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

→ I believe the children are our future
Teach them well and let them lead the way

It's a good message, but slightly bland I suppose. sonia^♫♪ 13:26, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support - Actually I really like this, also tells not to bit the newcomers. Why not link future to future as well? Derild4921☼ 14:22, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
• Weak oppose parents are usually higher than children, so experienced editors are higher than novices? Kayau Voting IS evil 14:27, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Where did the idea of parents come from? By children here I am referring to the fact that they are learning quickly about the world, somewhat more new to it, more optimistic and creative, more open to ideas. And thus, if we help them settle in, they will help change Wikipedia with their new ideas. It is true that it is sometimes necessary to "talk down" to children to explain things to them, but I don't feel that that makes us "higher", per se. (I actually think people patronise children too much, and I guess the same goes for newbies.) sonia^♫♪ 19:33, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support. Although some of the current editors may contribute the greatest depth, most of the contributions made to Wikipedia are by newcomers and they may end up being the ones to edit to the most depth as many long-timers retire and it makes it easier for contributors to lead when they arrive in a welcoming atmosphere. ~AH1^(TCU) 14:32, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - Very good message. I think Kayau's point was addressed sufficiently. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 05:05, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Approved for October 2 per concensus. Belugaboy^{how's my driving?} 22:57, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Wasn't it a millionaire who said "Imagine no possessions"?

Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 19:28, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support - Good quote and link. Also funny. Nothing wrong with this. Simon^KSK 19:39, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
• support- it's a really good point. (Simon! You're back!) sonia^♫♪ 20:02, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - yep, it's great! Kayau Voting IS evil 06:50, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support ~ I like it very much. Do you think we can change the arrow link to point to the song ("The Other Side of Summer")? –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:08, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support. Wasn't it a loudmouth who said, "QUIET!!!"? ~AH1^(TCU) 00:39, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Approved Per consensus.--LAAFan 20:09, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

→ It's been a hard day's night, and I been working like a dog.
It's been a hard day's night, I should be sleeping like a log.
But when I get home to you I'll find the things that you do will make me feel alright.

Yes, I know, "Another Beatles song, gosh, this kid is chock full of them!" What can I say? The Beatles are freaking awesome. Love them to death. Simon^KSK 16:17, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support - Nice linking! Derild4921☼ 16:48, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
• Weak support - again seems to imply that editing WP is hard work, but is less blatant about it. Nice song though. Kayau Voting IS evil 07:02, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
  • It doesn't saying editing WP is hard work, it says improving WP all toghether is hard work. Simon^KSK 17:46, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:23, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support. Encourages encouragement overall, but don't forget to sleep. ~AH1^(TCU) 00:43, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - I like the motto, I see Kayau's point but I don't think it's a big deal. WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 13:39, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Approved Per consensus.--LAAFan 20:07, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

→ "Tell me, how did you find America?" – "Turn left at Greenland."

A Hard Day's Night (1964) directed by Richard Lester; written by Alun Owen; starring The Beatles; music composed by The Beatles and George Martin; cinematography by Gilbert Taylor; editing by John Jympson. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:46, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

• Weak Oppose- The links don't make that much sense to me. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 16:00, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

I get it now, but I'm still Opposing in favor of Edit 1. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 18:48, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose - I don't like the way that this one is linked. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come yell at me!)} 20:02, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose - Edit 1 is slightly better but I still don't think the linking is very good. WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 13:00, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

→ "Tell me, how did you find America?"
"Turn left at Greenland."

Edit 1 Fixed some issues with the previous motto. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 18:48, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

• Support - This one works. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come yell at me!)} 20:02, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
• Support either really, but the linking is slightly better on this one. PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 18:27, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
• Support - I like it. ~NerdyScienceDude (✉ • ✐ • ✍) 00:03, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
• Weak support I like it but since when has Wikipedia been America? Can it not link to the America article? •martyx• tkctgy 15:12, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

  Reply - it's that weird question of how to interpret mottoes. You could read: "Tell me, how did you find Wikipedia?"/"(awareness statistics)". PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 16:23, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

• Very weak oppose support - I don't like the idea of equating Wikipedia with America. Linking to WP:AWARE also isn't particularly useful IMHO. Kayau Voting IS evil 13:17, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
  • OK, since my points were addressed, I guess I withdraw my second. I still don't like Wikipedia=America, even if it means new world. Kayau Voting IS evil 14:42, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
• Comment: The word "America" derives from the feminized Latin version of the first name of the Italian explorer and navigator Amerigo Vespucci (Amerigo→Americus→America.) America is also a synonym of "New World," "New Continent" (North America + South America = the Americas) "new Land" ... something new. Obviously I know the phrase is referring to the U.S.A., but I took the liberty to "extend" its meaning. This word (America, América, Amerika, Amérique) and meaning are in common use in many languages as well as in English. America here means the new world/thing, which surely is Wikipedia. Also, a link to Google or Yahoo! would make the idea more clear for linking "Turn left at Greenland," but I used WP:AWARE because I don't think it is a good idea to point to the Wikipedia main namespace. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:53, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose - I don't like the linking because I think WP:AWARE is a bad page to link to, its just full of statistics and isn't that relevant anyway. I would probably have Weak support if Turn left at Greenland linked to Google or Yahoo as Pjoef suggested - I don't think it's such a big deal to link to a normal article. WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 13:05, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

 Reopened BOTH VERSIONS (no consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:51, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

• Comment - I think that Kayau's point has been sufficiently answered. If I'm not the only one that thinks this, perhaps we could just close this early? ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 14:09, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Reply: Probaly yes, but I'm more strict with my nominations! Anyway, Edit 1 gets my support too. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 14:37, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

 Declined Original and Approved Edit 1 per consensus.--LAAFan 20:04, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Know where your towel is

Not sure about the links, but you get the idea.--Forty two^{Thanks for all the fish!} 19:12, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

• Comment isn't that kind of... meaningless? Kayau Voting IS evil 23:39, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose Per my below comment. And by the way, gadgets don't go in your script page. :) ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 02:57, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose in favor of Edit 2. AirplanePro^Radio_Checklist 02:20, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose - Per Hi878. I prefer Edit 2. WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 13:24, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Know where your towel is

Edit 1 ~ I don't know the context of the quote. Just trying. Kayau Voting IS evil 23:40, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose - Whatever the context is, this doesn't seem like it... —mono 00:07, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose Per my below comment. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 02:57, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose The link doesn't really belong. AirplanePro^Radio_Checklist 02:20, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
• Strong oppose - Links don't make sense to me. WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 13:27, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Know where your towel is.

Edit 2 ~ variation on #1. —mono 00:03, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

• Strong support - that's much more in the spirit of the thing I think. --Smaug123 (talk) 18:06, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
• Agree. I like the linking here better than in mine. --Forty two^{Thanks for all the fish!} 00:46, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
• Neutral know where your script is: in your monobook.js/vector.js! Does that imply that there are no scripts in your preferences? Kayau Voting IS evil 00:55, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

There are no scripts! Just gadgets. —mono 01:37, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose - Do all of you remember the run of Douglas Adams quotes that I did? I left this one out, specifically because I don't think that any linking will work. I thought of this way, but decided that it was retty meaningless, so... ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 02:57, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support Better than original, way better than Edit 1. AirplanePro^Radio_Checklist 02:20, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support for edit 2 (this version) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:28, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - I like the links, people who look at the motto and follow them may find them useful in learning how to use scripts. WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 13:31, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

 Declined Original and Edit 1 and Approved Edit 2 per consensus.--LAAFan 20:01, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Meliora
("for the pursuit of the better")

Motto of the University of Rochester, New York. It means "better", "better things", "always better", "ever better", "for the pursuit of the better", "to improve (something)", "make [something] better!", depending if it is used as a verb or a noun. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:16, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

• Strong Support - I like it. Very good job. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 14:07, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
• support yep. Kayau Voting IS evil 14:45, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - good, as usual from pjoef! PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 14:50, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Approved Per consensus.--LAAFan 01:28, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Thus sang they, in the English boat,
An holy and a cheerful note,
And all the way, to guide their chime,
With falling oars they kept the time.

Andrew Marvell (1621–1678), Bermudas (1653) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:41, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

• Support Not entirely sure about the last two, but the rest seems good. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come yell at me!)} 02:25, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
• Support Love it! --Smaug123 (talk) 08:39, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

 Reopened - not enough discussion. Simply south (talk) 13:49, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

• Comment - 'an holy'? Kayau Voting IS evil 12:27, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Yes- My English teacher says "an history". Apparently "h" is supposed to be prepended with "an", but no one does it any more. I have no problems with it where the "h" is silent (an hour) and the reverse where a consonant sounds at the start of a word though it is nonexistent (a uniform) But it seems most people disagree with me on either one point or the other. sonia^♫♪ 21:23, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
    • Weak support - it's always the last link that spoils it all... but the rest are great. Kayau Voting IS evil 09:23, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose. The links and the quote dont meet each other at any point.--Forty two^{Thanks for all the fish!} 09:26, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Approved (per consenus; 4 supports and 1 oppose) Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 18:01, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

→What would you think if I sang out of tune, would you stand up and walk out on me? Lend me your ears and I'll sing you a song and I'll try not to sing out of key.

Simon^KSK 19:08, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support - I like this. Welcome to MOTD! PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 19:20, 18 July 2010 (UTC) Moving in favor of Edit 1
  • Reply - .......Welcome? Simon^KSK 19:35, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
    • Simon's an old-timer just come back from a long absence, as I have. —La Pianista ^{♫ ♪} 22:17, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
      • Rats! Before posting, I thought, "What if I'm just showing myself to be the MOTD newbie that I am?" but decided to do it anyway. Sorry, Simon. Welcome back! PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 13:35, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
        • Ha, it's okay. Woah, I just realized that I'm one of the descision makers. I forgot that I added myself there. >_> Simon^KSK 16:07, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose in favor of Edit 1 + questions - Why does think link to WP:TALKPAGE? Also, is it necessary to repeat WP:VANDAL? —La Pianista ^{♫ ♪} 22:17, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
  • I put the talkpage link because you should tell someone what you think they're doing wrong in their talk page. Simon^KSK 23:13, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose - I don't like it when people link FA to good things when it doesn't fit the rest of the quote. BTW, I've never seen Simon before but I have seen La Pianista so I suppose Simon hasn't come back for quite a long time. (then again he's probably come back when I had a WB.) Anyway, I'm glad someone's finally put 'reply' before a reply and used two bullets rather than an indentation. It's something that has almost never been observed for the past few months. Kayau Voting IS evil 23:53, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

 Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:16, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

→ What would you think if I sang out of tune; would you stand up and walk out on me? Lend me your ears and I'll sing you a song and I'll try not to sing out of key.

Edit 1 Several miscellaneous fixes. —La Pianista ^{♫ ♪} 22:17, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

• Strong Support this version. Much better links. Derild4921☼ 22:19, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - Yes, this is a better version. I put WP:VANDAL twice in mine, since I had no clue what else to put. :/ Simon^KSK 23:11, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support agreed. Kayau Voting IS evil 23:53, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - this is better. PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 13:35, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support ~ now it's perfect! –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:42, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/September 25, 2010 (per consensus; 6 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:16, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

→ DON'T PANIC

A no-brainer really. More Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy quotes coming up.--Forty two^{Thanks for all the fish!} 18:56, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

• Weak oppose - I mean... it works, but a bit too bland. Derild4921☼ 23:42, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose - boring. —mono 00:04, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
• Strong oppose. Kayau Voting IS evil 04:30, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
• Strong Oppose - even though I love HHGG, it's been used before. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 02:50, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
• Strong Oppose - No reusing mottos! ~NerdyScienceDude (✉ • ✐ • ✍) 00:11, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
• Weak Oppose ~ it has been used yet. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:33, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

 Declined (no consensus; 1 in support and 6 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:11, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Don't try to teach your Grandma to suck eggs.

How about this one? --Forty two^{Thanks for all the fish!} 22:15, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

• Comment so templating is sucking eggs? Kayau Voting IS evil 00:58, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Nope. Templating an experienced user is akin to teaching ones Grandma to suck eggs. This is a real proverb. Try this if you haven't heard this one before.--Forty two^{Thanks for all the fish!} 01:12, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Support - thanks. Kayau Voting IS evil 01:26, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
• Strong oppose - I hate that essay. —mono 01:13, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Comment - no offence intended, but do you hate it because you were wrongly accused of templating a regular? Kayau Voting IS evil 01:17, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
    • Many times, actually! —mono 00:01, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
• Weak Support An odd quote but it still fits – Derild4921 04:30, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:16, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - Purely because the nominator is a Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy fan. :) ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 14:05, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Reply - so Secret Saturdays should support all my nominations because I'm also a Garfield fan? :) Kayau Voting IS evil 04:15, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support. ~NerdyScienceDude (✉ • ✐ • ✍) 23:34, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support! - This one makes me smile. And I'm strongly against templating the regulars, so yes, put this out there! PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 00:21, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/September 24, 2010 (per consensus; 7 in support and 1 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:03, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

→ So much time, and so little to do! Strike that! Reverse it!

I just feel this quote sums up Wikipedia editors/editing thoroughly. We probably all spend so much time here, and yet there is always more to be done than we can get done in that amount of time... I couldn't find this having been used previously, but I would think this would have been, so I could very well be wrong. --khfan93 03:30, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose - you cannot expect that you reader understands what message you are trying to bring without reading your message. Please add some links. Kayau Voting IS evil 05:23, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Kayau, that was slightly bitey of you. How is one who is new to MOTD supposed to know that straight off-the-bat? There were nicer ways of introducing the concept. Anyway. I'm thinking that linking that to the GOCE would be a good idea. Other ideas?sonia^♫♪ 06:26, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
  • What the motto means to me and what it means to the reader will always be different. There is no need to force an interpretation of a quote unto someone. But how about this:
    • Sorry, it was not meant to be bitey. To be honest I don't understand how GOCE would work... Kayau Voting IS evil 13:45, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose No links. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 23:45, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose - Unlinked —mono 04:22, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

 Declined (in favour of Edit 3) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:00, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

→ So much time, and so little to do! Strike that! Reverse it!

Edi 1 ~ It's not perfect... but I added links! --khfan93 13:35, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

• Comment - I think this is kind of 'unparallel', since to do is linked whereas time is not. And reverse is linked while strike is not. One can link strike to CTW (though that would be a bit trite). I can't really think of a link to time though... Help:Calendar? Of course that's rather silly. WP:7AGES? Kayau Voting IS evil 13:45, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose - I'll put in my ideas. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 23:45, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

 Declined (in favour of Edit 3) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:00, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

→ So much time, and so little to do! Strike that! Reverse it!

Edit 2 ~ I like this. I don't think strike needs to be linked. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 23:45, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

• Comment: This phrase makes me think that there is so little time and so much to do. A 48-64 hours day could be a great solution ~ lol ~ Anyway, I do not like linking Wikipedia:To-do list to "so little to do". What about using something related to Wikipedia:Peer review or Wikipedia:Featured article candidates? They would make more sense to me. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:32, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support I think this is the best version. Kayau Voting IS evil 13:03, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

 Declined (in favour of Edit 3) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:00, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

→ So much time, and so little to do! Strike that! Reverse it!

Edit 3 using WP:PR. ~NerdyScienceDude (✉ • ✐ • ✍) 23:48, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support - Better than mine. By the way, you used WP:FAC, not WP:PR. :) I like FAC better. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 02:54, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support much better than my original version, my favorite of the changes. :D --khfan93 (t) (c) 01:00, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support per Hi878 & khfan93. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:53, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/September 23, 2010 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:00, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

→ I have been an echo. You have been an echo. Wikipedia has been an echo. The world has been an echo. But your spirit never has.

I think that we ourselves are just echos and our spirits control our lives. I thought it would be good to express that. I got the motto from Enya's song "La Soñadora, from the line "He sido un eco" or "I have been an echo"RascalthePeaceful ^(t/a/c) 21:53, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose - I don't suppose the word 'Wikipedia' appeared in the song? :) please do no modify quotes. Kayau Voting IS evil 09:13, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Hey, i just made it up; it's only the "I have been an echo" part that appeared in the song, and also, sorry about the editing. I kept on forgetting things, so I added them in. RascalthePeaceful ^(t/a/c) 21:37, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
• Neutral - First of all, don't have an arrow if you made up most of it. Second, the linking is quite a bit off. I'm going to nominate one with different linkings. I'll use this motto the way that it is. If it turns out we shouldn't use it, then... Then reject it. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 23:42, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

 Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:57, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

I have been an echo. You have been an echo. Wikipedia has been an echo. The world has been an echo. But your spirit never has.

Edit 1 ~ Better, perhaps? ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 23:42, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support - Madeup, but good. Could we put a link to WP:OR in there? —mono 04:28, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
• Considerable support - Pretty deep for a madeup; that's why I like it. AtrHarOrd (talk) 14:25, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Striking indeffed user's comment. —mono 01:17, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support ~ I like it! –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:37, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
• Me too. ~NerdyScienceDude (✉ • ✐ • ✍) 23:42, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/September 22, 2010 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:57, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Oh, swiftly glides the bonnie boat,
Just parted from the shore,
And to the fisher's chorus-note,
Soft moves the dipping oar!

Joanna Baillie (1762–1851). "Oh, Swiftly Glides the Bonnie Boat" (1815). A brief note: History of Wikipedia is in the mainspace, but it's about Wikipedia, so I think it should work. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:56, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support, though something could be done about the last link. Kayau Voting IS evil 08:50, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
• Weak Oppose - Don't like last link. My suggestion is below. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 23:32, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

 Declined in favor of Edit 1. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 19:35, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Oh, swiftly glides the bonnie boat,
Just parted from the shore,
And to the fisher's chorus-note,
Soft moves the dipping oar!

Edit 1 ~ Seems to make quite a bit more sense. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 23:32, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support EDIT 1 –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:40, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support this one better. Kayau Voting IS evil 04:34, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support. Makes sense.--Forty two^{Thanks for all the fish!} 09:28, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
• Indeed. ~NerdyScienceDude (✉ • ✐ • ✍) 23:36, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Approved per WP:SNOW Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 19:35, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

→ I'm a revolutionary; money means nothing to me.

—La Pianista ^{♫ ♪} 02:15, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose - in favor of Edit 1. —mono 04:22, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
• Conditional Support Edit 1 is better, but this works. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 14:03, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

 Declined in favour of edit 2. Kayau Voting IS evil 14:17, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

→ I'm a revolutionary; money means nothing to me.

Edit 1 Different links. --—mono 04:22, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support - Alright. I was afraid to do that, though, as links to WP:EDIAN are far overused. Most of the time, they're also redundant. And repetitive. —La Pianista ^{♫ ♪} 04:23, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Support (both versions, there is not a big difference between them) + comment: I think that the Poet of Piano was not paid for his Étude Op. 10, No. 12. La Pianista, check out this link when you get a moment. I would like to know your opinion. It's not Richter, Ashkenazy, or Pollini... but he is studying this Revolutionary piece of Art, and IMHO he is making progress. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:49, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
    • Re Pjoef Yes, he's making progress (is that perchance you playing? :). It's better than many others' renditions I've heard - believe me, I've heard many. Sure, there are more than a few things I disagree with, in which I will indulge myself by speaking in uncomfortably large detail.
      • Better right hand legato - he has the hand for a 5-4 octave pair if he wanted to. He should relax the lower voices in practice and work on that legato between 5 and 4. It is supremely important to keep the other fingers relaxed, else the legato will not be natural, he'll hit wrong notes, and some notes won't even sound. Purely as an exercise, he could play the chord, play every voice but the top staccato, and keep the top molto legatissimo.
      • More voicing in top of right hand - he can do this by subtly angling his hand towards the smaller fingers, thus putting more weight there.
      • More carefully-planned resolutions - 0:40, for example. The D should be softer than the E-flat before it. If you were to sing this passage, you wouldn't do the opposite, would you? It is ungraceful (not that he was doing that - he was playing them at equal dynamics).
      • Better tone control by keeping the hand close to the key - this mostly applies to the right hand. If he put his hand on the key before playing it, he wouldn't have that wooden, physical bump that comes purely from a quick descent straight into the keybed. It's that "knock-on-wood" sound that's barely perceptible but makes a huge difference in the end. In addition, a lot of energy is wasted in the force that is rebound, per Newton's third law. If he kept close to the key, he could play loudly with a quick burst of energy and immediately relax (after all, what use is there for tension after a key is played? The sound decays immediately, there's nothing you can do) and prepare for the next chord.
      • Reduce the amount of extraneous movement in the left hand, especially the chromatic 1:07 section- it's good to keep the arm free, but too much movement is more of an impediment than a help. It throws the hand off balance and creates more tension as the pianist tries to keep things straight. Like Dr. José Feghali once mentioned in a masterclass I attended, capable pianists don't have to convince themselves of relaxation with unnecessary movements. Freedom should be felt within and observed through paying close attention to what their body is telling them. Of course, total relaxation is impossible (else, pianists would be reduced to a drooling, half-awake mess that has fallen off the bench), but we should strive for minimal tension at all costs.
      • Most minor thing of all - I would recommend not letting go of the right hand during the left hand "solo" passagework. For one thing, it is slightly unprofessional, and his body language shows that he is struggling. Inner dialogue: I'm so focused on this left hand right now. In the meanwhile, let's get this right hand out of the way.
    • Overall, relatively small things, besides that bit about relaxation - as you say, he is no Richter. If this etude has caused him any pain - even a tingly sensation in undesirable - I would strongly advise him to be careful and start some relaxation exercises, which he may find in Alan Fraser's book, The Craft of Piano Playing (which I cannot link to on WP, since it would be spamming :P ). —La Pianista ^{♫ ♪} 06:42, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
      • Thanks for your reply. And, no I am not a pianist nor a musician. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 12:03, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - The WP:EDIAN link was a good addition, in my opinion. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 14:03, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - winning and money don't go together that well, IMO, but it's fine. Kayau Voting IS evil 14:44, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support. Motto increases wiki-spirit. ~AH1^(TCU) 16:09, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - I like this one. ~NerdyScienceDude (✉ • ✐ • ✍) 23:44, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - very good point, well linked. PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 00:21, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Approved - no rationale for opposition; community in favour. Kayau Voting IS evil 14:17, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Not now! Can't you see I'm trying to remember something?

I know it's sort of weird, but... Kayau Voting IS evil 04:23, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

• Note this is not the first time that i've quoted the mean dog from Garfield. Kayau Voting IS evil 04:37, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - well linked. PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 13:57, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - Good idea. Derild4921☼ 14:42, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - Great —mono 01:36, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - Made me laugh, and the lniks work. What more do we need? ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 03:02, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Approved per consensus. Simply south (talk) 13:24, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

→ While mantling on the maiden's cheek,
Young roses kindled into thought.

Thomas Moore (1779–1852), Evenings in Greece: Evening II: "Song" (1832) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:56, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support - Seems good. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 23:30, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - it's a bit bland but OK. Kayau Voting IS evil 09:12, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support. Nice links. I think it more than just works.--Forty two^{Thanks for all the fish!} 09:19, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - It works. ~NerdyScienceDude (✉ • ✐ • ✍) 23:38, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Approved per consensus. Simply south (talk) 00:39, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Has your peace trip big love ship got a seat left for me?

"Gone" by Hate Dept. form their 1998 album Technical Difficulties –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:41, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

• Weak support - not so sure about the last link. Kayau Voting IS evil 08:40, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
• Weak Support Per Kayau. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come yell at me!)} 02:19, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
• Weak support - the last link I like, but the entire quote took me a second read to understand. PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 02:44, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

 Reopened - not enough discussion. Simply south (talk) 13:49, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

• Weak oppose—I don't understand it all that well. Belugaboy 13:57, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
• Weak oppose Same as Belugaboy. Derild4921☼ 22:41, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose. Nah.--Forty two^{Thanks for all the fish!} 09:22, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

 Declined. As more than one user is in opposition because they do not understand it, it is not likely that our readers will either. Also, even supporters have concerns. Kayau Voting IS evil 09:26, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

→ I'm a doctor, not a physicist!

There should be no need for a user to revert vandalism; it's the vandals that waste so much time. --Smaug123 (talk) 20:55, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

• Neutral-ish, leaning towards oppose - I just don't like the message. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come yell at me!)} 21:27, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Reply - :( --Smaug123 (talk) 21:51, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose - can't see how the links fit... Kayau Voting IS evil 00:21, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Oppose. I love the quote but don't see any of the variations working.--Forty two^{Thanks for all the fish!} 19:27, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

→ I'm a doctor, not a soldier!

Edit 1 ~ Also said, I think. The last link is more appropriate now, I think --Smaug123 (talk) 07:34, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

• Weak Support - Better, but I just don't like the message much. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come yell at me!)} 18:42, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

→ I'm a doctor, not a physicist!

Edit 2 with WP:WWISG and WP:SUCKS –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:35, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

• Strong Oppose - Absolutely not! I hate it! ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 23:24, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

→ I'm a doctor, not a physicist!

Edit 3 with WP:WRITERS and WP:NOTLEX –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:35, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

• Perfect! - This is the best. I think it's funny. :) ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 23:24, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

 Reopened ALL VERSIONS (no consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:55, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

• Edit 3 is my favourite and has my support. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:58, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support. Good version. ~AH1^(TCU) 16:05, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - it's a touch better than the others (all of which are great :)) --Smaug123 (talk) 17:39, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support much better. Kayau Voting IS evil 23:42, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - Best of all. —mono 00:05, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

 Declined Original and edits 1 and 2. Approved Edit 3 per consensus.--LAAFan 20:44, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

→ "Break the glass".
"We can't, it's Beatle-proof."
"Nothing is Beatle-proof."

It's worth a shot. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 02:31, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support - I like that! PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 02:33, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
• Very Weak Oppose - It seems more fitting to have "Break" be WP:VANDAL, but then that sends a bad message, so... I don't know. The message seems weird no matter how you link it. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 03:00, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

  Try reading it just as the links (and words in between), not the words that are linked. That seems to work for me. PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 03:22, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

  But if you look at the words, it doesn't work, and the words are what you see first. And if you don't have popups, it makes it even harder to get the meaning. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 03:28, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose I agree with Hi878. Besides, it seems to imply that protected pages are all replaced by pending changes. Kayau Voting IS evil 08:46, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose •martyx• tkctgy 10:12, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support on Condition—Make Beatle into some other workable pun, everything else I like. Belugaboy 14:06, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose - agreeing with Hi878 —mono 01:41, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

 Declined Per consensus.--LAAFan 20:40, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Never fight a battle of wits with someone you suspect is unarmed.

This originated from a British Adult "comic" called Viz - it was used in an episode of "Sid the Sexist", when he was talking to Baz about dealing with blondes. However, I feel it fits Wikipedia in the sense of Not biting the newcomers and Assuming good faith - always assume the person you are dealing with may need things explaining, politely. Personal warnings are much friendlier, since if they're kept civil, they can encourage conversation and discussion. In short, don't assume you're talking with someone who knows everything, it's highly unlikely. BarkingFish ^{Talk to me} | ^{My contributions} 23:40, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose - No links. I'll try some below. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come yell at me!)} 23:45, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

  Comment: You may be right, if you want to amend the above proposal rather than starting a new one, feel free. I wasn't entirely sure how this nom thingy worked :) BarkingFish ^{Talk to me} | ^{My contributions} 23:48, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

  The way you do it is adding a new proposal if you have a new linking idea (or want to add links). I went ahead and took them away again, so that we have this nom and mine being the way they were. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 01:36, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

  That's why I was confused! And then I had to change my !vote. Oh well. PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 01:31, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Never fight a battle of wits with someone you suspect is unarmed.

Edit 1 Would this work? I don't think that WP:AGF would work, though. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come yell at me!)} 23:45, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

• Weak Support - the more I read this one the less I like it, but of the three this is best. PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 13:14, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Never fight a battle of wits with someone you suspect is unarmed.

Edit 2 I'm justing throwing my two cents in. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 23:58, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

• Neutral-ish, leaning towards oppose - I don't think the page quite fits with the quote. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 01:36, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Never fight a battle of wits with someone you suspect is unarmed.

Edit 3 Don't bite the newcomers? •martyx• tkctgy 10:15, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support - this seems to fit in better, looking at the linking, with what I was originally considering. BarkingFish ^{Talk to me} | ^{My contributions} 21:41, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support ~ this is my favourite and it is very close to the original idea/proposal. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:52, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
• Strongly oppose all - I'm surprised no one has seen this. Implying that newbies don't have wits is a way of biting them. —La Pianista ^{♫ ♪} 16:04, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Huh? - It's not implying they have no wits! If anything, they have lots of wits, because we are implying that if you battle wits with them, you will lose! --Smaug123 (talk) 21:32, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
    • Double huh? - It's the opposite. Suspect is unarmed links to WP:NEWBIE. Newbies are unarmed in a battle of wits = they have no wits. —La Pianista ^{♫ ♪} 02:00, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
      • Triple huh? - but if you are being warned against doing this, then there must be a reason; if the newbie really is unarmed, then why would there be a proverb about it? You'd simply win! The meaning behind the proverb is that there may be hidden depths to this person. The implication is that the newbie might be able to win! --Smaug123 (talk) 17:44, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
        • Atomic huh? You are being warned against battling wits with an unarmed person because it would be a waste of time. Your well-loved and thought-out choice of words would fall on pitiably deaf, witless ears. How could a person without wits win an argument of wits, anyways? —La Pianista ^{♫ ♪} 06:11, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
        • In addition, calling anyone witless in any situation is still an insult, no matter how you spin it. Especially if they are witless. —La Pianista ^{♫ ♪} 06:13, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose - gee, you're right, La Pianista! That's one way of biting them. Kayau Voting IS evil 09:21, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose - I don't really think that any linking works... ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 03:59, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose all. - Nothing works for me. —mono 04:36, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Never fight a battle of wits with someone you suspect is unarmed.

Edit 4 - Link change. —La Pianista ^{♫ ♪} 04:40, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

• support- omgz one that actually works! :P sonia^♫♪ 04:42, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
  • As does everything I do, sweetheart. Everything I do. *casually brushes dust off shoulder* —La Pianista ^{♫ ♪} 04:53, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support edit 4. Kayau Voting IS evil 06:24, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Never fight a battle of wits with someone you suspect is unarmed.

Edit 5 - Moving the last link - an alternative that I have just conjured from the depths of my miraculous brain. —La Pianista ^{♫ ♪} 04:42, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support Edit 4 & 5 (with a slight preference for this version) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:43, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
• yep- that makes more sense. :P sonia^♫♪ 04:36, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

 Declined Original, edit 1, edit 2, edit 3, and edit 5. Approved Edit 4 per Users Sonia, Kayau, and Pjoef.--LAAFan 20:37, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Be thou familiar, but by no means vulgar.

William Shakespeare (1564–1616), The Tragedy of Hamlet, Prince of Denmark, Act I, Scene III: "Lor4d Polonius monologue"; line 61 (1623) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:16, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

• support- this works, and it is a good message. sonia^♫♪ 07:25, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - Good message. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 14:07, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support per above. Kayau Voting IS evil 14:43, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support. Encourages a good environment. ~AH1^(TCU) 16:07, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Approved per consensus. Simply south (talk) 23:53, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Greetings and bienvenue.

Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 23:49, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

• Weak support - In the spirit of User:Nutiketaiel, it could do for a slow news day. —La Pianista ^{♫ ♪} 01:53, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
• LOL, and very weak support - I don't know if this is the case for western countries, but in Hong Kong you always see the word 'welcome' in many languages. They paint them on walls and all that. :P Also, Nutiketaiel's legacy remains even though he has not been an active member for some time... Anyway, I don't see how this will be too useful, but... Kayau Voting IS evil 01:56, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Well, it depends where in the Western countries. In places like San Francisco, New York City, parts of Canada and Eastern Europe, you'll see some places doing that, mostly at airports. :P Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 00:49, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

• Weak Support - When we have an emergency day. :) ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 23:47, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - Let's make our emergency date August 12. —mono 04:19, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
• Weak Support per above. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:52, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/September 14, 2010 (per consensus; 6 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:25, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Extreme democracy has caused the cultural revolution.

Kayau Voting IS evil 13:25, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support - Good job! ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come yell at me!)} 18:43, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support I like this one. Derild4921☼ 18:49, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
• Weak support It's OK •martyx• tkctgy 10:16, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
• Neutral ~ Okay, assuming that Wikipedia is an "extreme democracy" why does it cause the end of wikipedia? –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:12, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Switching to Support –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:08, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/September 13, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:09, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Extreme democracy has caused the cultural revolution.

Edit one - Kayau Voting IS evil 09:17, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose - Sorry, just don't like it. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 04:00, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

 Declined (in favour of the original) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:09, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Excellence and opportunity for each learner.

~NerdyScienceDude (✉ • ✐ • ✍) 00:15, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support - Sounds good. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come yell at me!)} 00:17, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
• Neutral - does every newbie need a new article and adoption? Kayau Voting IS evil 00:19, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Support - they don't need to, but the opportunities are there for them. --Smaug123 (talk) 07:26, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support I found being adopted useful when I started on WP •martyx• tkctgy 15:29, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
• Neutral because I do not like the first link. "Excellence" reminds me of featured contents/articles/lists/images and portal or awards/barnstars and not of new articles (which generally are STUBS.) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:25, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Switching to Support. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:04, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
• Neutral - Don't exactly agree... —mono 01:33, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/September 12, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:05, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

→ From every blush that kindles in thy cheeks,
Ten thousand little loves and graces spring
To revel in the roses.

Nicholas Rowe (1674–1718), Tamerlane, Act I, Scene I (1701) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:36, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

• Weak support - pjoef's pretty good at prasing FAs, but I think we're having too much of that. Kayau Voting IS evil 10:45, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose in favor of edit one. --I dream of horses (T) @ 05:09, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
• Support My favorite. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come yell at me!)} 18:55, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

 Declined in favour of edit 2. Simply south (talk) 15:25, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

→ From every blush that kindles in thy cheeks,
Ten thousand little loves and graces spring,
To revel in the roses.

Edit 1 •martyx• tkctgy 12:12, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

• Support I like this one the best. --I dream of horses (T) @ 05:09, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose - little also modifies graces, which means the graces are also little. Also, spring is a verb where little loves and little graces are the subjects. In other words, it doesn't makes sense to link graces and spring to the same page. Kayau Voting IS evil 09:19, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
• Conditional Support In favor of Original. I like the linking in it better. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come yell at me!)} 18:55, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

 Declined in favour of edit 2. Simply south (talk) 15:25, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

→ From every blush that kindles in thy cheeks,
Ten thousand little loves and graces spring,
To revel in the roses.

Edit 2 fixed the 'loves and graces' issue. Clearly I need to brush up on my grammar! •martyx• tkctgy 15:48, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

• Conditional Support Still like the original. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come yell at me!)} 18:55, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Reopened ALL per lack of consensus. Smaug123 (talk) 18:24, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

• Strong support edit 2 - it works much better! --Smaug123 (talk) 18:13, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
• Support EDIT 2 ~ Best version! –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:53, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Approved edit 2' per consensus. Simply south (talk) 15:25, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Why did she love him? Curious fool! —be still—
Is human love the growth of human will?

George Gordon Noel Byron (1788–1824), Lara, Canto II (1814) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:08, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

• Strong Support Very good job with this one. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come yell at me!)} 05:37, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
• Weak oppose - the links are not really linked to each other IMO. Kayau Voting IS evil 07:53, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
• Weak support I don't like insulting mottos, even mildly insulting ones, but this is good. --I dream of horses (T) @ 00:53, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

 Reopened (no consensus; 3 in support and 1 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:53, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

• Weak oppose because I don't think the links make sense altogether. Per phrase, but not with the entire motto. PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 02:43, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
• Opposeish - links —mono 01:34, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

 Declined - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 15:25, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

→ What gain I if I win the thing I seek?
A dream, a breath, a froth of fleeting joy.
Who buys a minute's mirth to wail a week?
Or sells eternity to gain a toy?

No idea how this works, and the linking could most definitely be better. Thoughts? sonia^♫♪ 11:45, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support Pretty good! I really like the way it rhymes, and it gives a good impact. Don't mean to plead or... er, never mind. Also, there was something I noticed and I forgot to add it. I put it in a separate comment; thats why there's weak support. RascalthePeaceful ^(t/a/c) 21:56, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Forgot to add. Why does the arrow link lead to The Rape of Lucrece? Not very good for a motto... RascalthePeaceful ^(t/a/c) 22:09, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
    • The point with the arrows is that they link to wherever you got the motto from. If you make up a motto yourself, it has no arrow link. So yes, a slightly unpleasant tooltip, but it is the source of the text I've used. sonia^♫♪ 22:26, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
      • Oh. Thanks. Overall Support changed to regular support.
• Support - I actually think you linked this really well. PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 23:09, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - Good job! I like the linkings; I think they work as they are. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 23:38, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
• Weak support - I prefer snappier, but it's ok. —mono 04:23, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Approved Per consensus.--LAAFan 07:10, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

→ May our mountains ever be
Freedom's ramparts on the sea

How's this? sonia^♫♪ 08:58, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

• Weak support - a bit 'random' to be honest, but otherwise there is nothing wrong with it. Kayau Voting IS evil 09:32, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:36, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - ~NerdyScienceDude (✉ • ✐ • ✍) 14:29, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - I like it. Very good message. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 23:27, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Approved Per consensus.--LAAFan 07:06, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Well, nobody's perfect.

Osgood Fielding III portrayed by Joe E. Brown in Some Like It Hot directed by Billy Wilder, written by Robert Thoeren, Michael Logan, Billy Wilder, I. A. L. Diamond; starring Marilyn Monroe, Tony Curtis, Jack Lemmon, George Raft, Joe E. Brown, Pat O'Brien; music composed by Adolph Deutsch; cinematography by Charles Lang; editing by Arthur P. Schmidt (1959) Some Like It Hot "Well, nobody's perfect." –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:56, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

• weak support - erm, uh, yeah. Kayau Voting IS evil 08:43, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
• Conditional Support In favor of Edit 1. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 23:29, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Well, nobody's perfect.

Edit 1Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 16:49, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

• Tie Between Weak Support and Support—I like it, but the link? I'm not to hot on that. It's alright. Belugaboy 21:30, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
• support- meh, this is a less often used link and a bit more encouraging, so I guess I'll support this version. sonia^♫♪ 11:03, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - It works. ~NerdyScienceDude (✉ • ✐ • ✍) 01:47, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
• My Favorite - Purely because it is a less-used link. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 23:29, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support - Like the link! —mono 04:33, 12 July 2010 (UTC)