April 21

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Aortae

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The result of the discussion was Withdrawn as keep by (non-admin closure)

(Eubot list 11). This is a bit nonsense because depending on what language you speak you might take the "ae" at the back as a Latin plural, but in fact it is just a Eubot back-formation. I suppose it is harmless but it WP:SURPRISEd me, especially thinking about the major cardiovascular system, I could see this being easily confused, so perhaps WP:XY. Si Trew (talk) 23:58, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: What else were you thinking it might refer to? PriceDL (talk) 12:54, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I think everyone will expect this to lead to information about aorta, and it is used synonymously with 'aortas' in some peer-reviewed sources. PriceDL (talk) 13:03, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
'Comment. I think I may have missed on this one. I was cross-reffing this from somewhere else as a possible suggestion to where that might at an offchance retarget. I checked just to be on the safe side that we haven't aeortaee or nonsense by Eubot. We don't, it seems (good). I cocked up probably listing this instead of mentioning it. I think now I can close as withdrawn by nom. I probably got confused, The eubot ones do catch you that way, that you forget what language you are in. Gearing meself up for another go! The best thing to do, as I used to say with regular Eubot plodder User:Champion, is to kinda take your eyes off the list after a while, otherwise everything looks the same. Not saying I said it in those exact words, but that is the rough effect. I probably didn't on this one.
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Nils Taepp

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The result of the discussion was Keep per second opinion by User:Sideways713. A second set of eyes is always best. (non-admin closure) by nom.

(eubot list 11) This is a bit tricky. Consensus is generally to keep Swedish ones, but this is someone's surname, and his surname was not "Taepp". We don't have a surname list at Taepp. I think on the whole this is WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Si Trew (talk) 23:54, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Kapteeni Aaeni

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 17:35, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot list 11). Well they are not called that. Not Germanic but Finnish. I suppose kinda WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. It seems too far out to me. Si Trew (talk) 23:52, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Roman a fleuve

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The result of the discussion was keep with no prejudice against renominating if there are valid reasons why Roman à fleuve should not redirect to Novel sequence (which was not discussed here). Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:42, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) This is a bit of clutter. The article has as "roman-fleuve" but not "roman-a-fleuve". My guess is this is created by Eubot from a mistaken creation, compare roman a clef for example Si Trew (talk) 23:07, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Created by eubot from Roman à fleuve. That is still a bit puzzling to me. I know roughly it would mean "flowing novel" or whatever, but I can't work this one out. I think many of the great French authors had these things, Victor Hugo and so on, but this right now is WP:RFD#D2 confusing, not at target. Hmm... Si Trew (talk) 23:10, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I am still not sure about it anyway, and the others, since these refer to kinda specifically French novelists. To redirect it (and the others, not by eubot) to "Novel Sequence" is perhaps a bit odd. I imagine we have a better target. Hesitate to list all the others, I have cluttered RfD enough, but there are of course others. Si Trew (talk) 23:13, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Ciftlikkoey

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) feminist 06:18, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot list 11) Not Germanic but Turkish. Si Trew (talk) 23:05, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Gyoergy Kosztolanczy

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The result of the discussion was keep. Evidence of usage has been found. -- Tavix (talk) 17:11, 3 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot list 11) not Germanic but Hungarian Si Trew (talk) 23:03, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Maelstroem (film)

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The result of the discussion was keep. -- Tavix (talk) 17:10, 3 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot list 11) Weak delete. This is a canadian film. Eubot has back-formed to "Maelstroem" but that is not what we would call it, is not what the target calls it. The kkinda it is not exactly a metal umlaut ut we might be making nonsense out of this. Si Trew (talk) 22:39, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not suggesting that "Maelstroem" is not a word. I just wonder whether with the disambiguation, this makes a good redirect. I always feel a bit queer about these ones. Probably OK, but for myself I would delete it. Si Trew (talk)
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Gyorsoevenyhaz

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 17:35, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot list 11) not Germanic but Hungarian. WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Si Trew (talk) 22:37, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Koey Hizmetleri Anadolu Lisesi

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 17:35, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot list 11). Not Germanic but Turkish. Si Trew (talk) 22:36, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Tiszakuert

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The result of the discussion was keep. -- Tavix (talk) 17:10, 3 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot list 11). Not Germanic, but Hungarian. WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Si Trew (talk) 22:35, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Eletrobras Termonuclear S/A

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The result of the discussion was keep. -- Tavix (talk) 17:08, 3 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot list 11) This is probably allright, but is not the name of the company on either side and in any case is a bit iffy. I would put it as ((R from unnecessary disambiguation)), can't put it as ((R from company name)) because it isn't. Not sure on this one Si Trew (talk) 22:34, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Iso-Syoete

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The result of the discussion was keep. -- Tavix (talk) 17:08, 3 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot list 11) Not Germanic but Finnish. I think this is too far out, delete WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Si Trew (talk) 21:51, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Thoekoely Imre

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 17:36, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot list 11). Now this is really pushing it. Hungarian, not English, and we have it in Hungarian name order with oe oe instead of Hungarian spelling. Speedily delete. I am on Engish keyboard layout but would be Thokoly dots on both Imre no dots on either. This is well too far out, WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Si Trew (talk) 21:46, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If I want to take a bus into town I go to Thököly út. I do not go to Thoekoely Imre út. ("út" = roughly main street, large street: there's no direct translation really.) It's one of the most frequently-travelled bus routes in Budapest. Si Trew (talk) 10:25, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Hungarians will tell you that their language is "speak-as-you-spell", but the "Th" is an odd example where it is not. Common, but pronounced exactly the same as T. I tend to use that as a talking point. Or should I say thalking point. It is left over from the spelling reforms of the last century. Si Trew (talk) 10:29, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Societe nationale d'electricite (RDC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 17:36, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot list 11). Just cut it. The target itself has a different (disambiguation). We've no need of it. Si Trew (talk) 21:44, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Tuerk Dil Kurumu

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 17:36, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot list 11) well, considering especially it is not the Tuerkish Language Association, I think this makes it a bit WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Not Germanic but Tuerkish. Si Trew (talk) 21:40, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Ski randonnee

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The result of the discussion was Procedural close. I'm going to close this discussion and renominate it together with Ski randonnée on today's (26 April) list. Thryduulf (talk) 08:58, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot list 11) I would normally take French ones by consensus, but this is not ((R from title without diacritics)). It is ((R from other name)), really, but with the missing accent, is it too far off? Si Trew (talk) 21:33, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

We don't have "randon" at all at the target, in any form. I can see where it gets it from, but it mght be a bit WP:RFD#D2 confusing. We're not a tourist guide. Si Trew (talk) 21:35, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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64 Oozumo

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The result of the discussion was speedy keep. Note that the nominator is currently blocked. (non-admin closure) - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 07:08, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot list 11) Well it isn't, is it? Back-formed from Japanese by eubot. Might be all right, but pushing it, with the two "Oo"s at the front. Si Trew (talk) 21:29, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think it was unwise to list this at the WP:ANI discussion of my behaviour, of one of your two examples. User:Thryduulf. Now you are WP:INVOLVED. Si Trew (talk) 11:09, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Ass fiber

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The result of the discussion was delete. There is consensus that this redirect is simply wrong. An implication of this discussion is that "Aß fiber", which it derived from, is also wrong. So, off the back of this, I'm nominating "Aß fiber" for deletion as well. Deryck C. 17:46, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot list 11) Eubot has got this by way of Aß fiber. Amusing, but wrong. Not at target in either case. The lede starts "Type II sensory fiber (group Aβ)"... Shall I suggest toilet paper or a straight WP:RFD#D5 as nonsense. Si Trew (talk) 21:24, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry this is the most amusing one I have seen today. I had a little laugh to myself. Sorry. WP:RFD#D5 nonsence. I better check whether there is in the British English "fibre". Si Trew (talk) 21:27, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No, there are sensible links in the British spelling, but not Ass fibre... sorrry... still laughing... Si Trew (talk) 21:38, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I have heard of lying out of ones ass before but not this.--64.229.167.158 (talk) 21:42, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete — case of bot mistaking symbol intention PriceDL (talk) 13:01, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above. Nice to have some unintentional bot vandalism to mix things up a bit. --Tom (LT) (talk) 23:21, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Buessue

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 17:37, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot list 11). Not Germanic but Hungarian. WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Si Trew (talk) 21:23, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Berrogueetto

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The result of the discussion was keep. Evidence of usage has been found. -- Tavix (talk) 17:07, 3 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot list 11) not Germanic, but Galician. Si Trew (talk) 21:21, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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B+ decay

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Robert AEOLUS Myers

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) feminist 06:18, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot, list 11) I can see that this is straight R from dias and against my own opinion we keep the AE. But since this middle name is well a bit iffy anyway per WP:TITLE I think this is pushing it. Not sure. We should probably move over. I will do that (as non admin) if I can. Si Trew (talk) 21:06, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ach, we do have Robert Myers, which is a name DAB. I presume an editor has then created this title (not the redirect) to disambiguate in this way, which is an odd way to do it by WP standards... eubbot then created the not particularly odd (by its standards) redirect from it. We don't usually disambiguate people by putting their middle name in capitals in the first place. What to do? Si Trew (talk) 21:08, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Siemien

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) feminist 06:18, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot list 11). I can see that this is perfectly fine as a straight R from dias, but I was thinking people might be searching for Siemens etc, not a small village in Poland. Not sure. Si Trew (talk) 20:58, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it is. But do you thibink people searching for "Siemien" might be looking for simian or Siemens or semen and suchlike? That is why I brought to RfD. I doubt they would be looking for a small village in Poland. I agree, it is a straiht ((R from title without diacritics)), but I am not sure it is useful. Si Trew (talk) 21:13, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I suppose what I am saying is, had Eubot not created these, what would they have found. WP:SURPRISEish, but I don't think that they would want to find a small village in Poland )too an English-speaking audience). Si Trew (talk)
There's nothing else notable with the name "Siemien", so I don't see the problem. Close spellings that someone can reasonably be confused with can be dealt with via a ((confused)) hatnote at Siemień. Again, Eubot is not a reason for deletion. -- Tavix (talk) 21:20, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
True, but you're kinda going a different way from me. I am assuming people do not pick out exactly and their tablets and stuff just will whack in any old thing that happens to match. On that ground I would say the probability that someone wants to find a small village in Poland instead of a large multinational corporation, etc, is a bit iffy, were I a bookmaker. However, You're kinda right, Wikipedia should be exact and then that would be fine. The problem really is that it's not "Siemien" but "Siemień" if you sie what I mień. It kinda lies in between. Si Trew (talk) 08:40, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'll repeat: I appreciate that eubot is not a reason for deletion, that is just a swift shorthand that many regulars understand to save them time checking where it came from, like we did with (neelix); it is essentially a courtesy note. I totally agree with you that is not in itself a reason to delete, keep, retarget or anything else. Si Trew (talk) 08:47, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'll bet you they wouldn't have. I bet you they would say "I must have mistyped that". I am not pushingfor ((R from typo)), I suppose more towards WP:XY. Si Trew (talk) 13:06, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Liveable

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The result of the discussion was retarget Liveable to Quality of life, with the rest being kept as is. -- Tavix (talk) 03:14, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Many things are "liveable". World's most liveable cities doesn't seem like a good redirect to me. E.g. "It's not a luxurious apartment by any means but it's liveable." or "fatherhood makes life more liveable". The more American spelling "livable" redirects differently, to Quality of life. Per WP:NOTDICT, both should just be deleted. MB 04:05, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Quality of Life doesn't cover all meanings of livable. For example, in real estate, "livable space" is space that is insulated/heated/cooled as opposed to non-livable space like a garage - pretty much covered in habitability. Since there are different potential targets for different uses, just delete. MB 01:30, 11 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I just checked two incoming links. Feather pecking refers to coexistence of poultry, and USS Cutlass (SS-478) refers to color schemes on submarines - neither of which are a good fit for the overall Quality of Life, which is about the "general well-being of individuals and societies". These redirects still don't seem to cover it well.MB 16:52, 15 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I know you said a "majority", not all. I was not trying to disprove what you said, but rather to point out when redirecting to quality of life would not help the reader. The purpose of redirects is not to send the reader to a place that "might" provide more information or "might" be erroneous. Since are are different meanings, and unless a page is created on "livable" that handles these four redirects better (while not just providing a dictionary definition), I just think they should be deleted so as not to mislead. The redlinks in those articles that do use the term for quality of life could then be edited to directly link there. If the consensus is to redirect all to quality of life, then every incoming link to all four should still be checked for possible unlinking if they mean something else. But even if everything is fixed up, as long as we have redirects of a generic term "liveable" to a specific usage "quality of life", more bad links will be introduced in the future by editors who don't sufficiently check targets before linking. MB 18:35, 16 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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I'm not sure this meets the criteria for a DAB page. See WP:BROAD since the possible targets are related as described here. MB 16:42, 23 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but then for example Le Corbusier said, I think, "Une maison est une machine-á-habiter", a house is a machine for living in. We could add that to that concept article, and although I like architecture, I think whatever we put at that broad concept article might be quite, um, subjective? Orwell I think in A nice cup of tea is it describes father round the father, Mother cooking lamb with potatoes under the roast, and so on, in a way which is very "liveable", I think it is such a vague concept that I am not sure that even a broad concept article could cover it. In an architectural sense it probably could do. Throwing out suggestions, homely, des. res., probably neither of those quite goes to where I should expect. Homely would in the mid 20thC. be a euphemism for "fat", essentially. Very homely womam. But perhaps again that is just me thinking of Orwell, I think he described women in many of his essays thus. Si Trew (talk) 10:42, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but then for example Le Corbusier said, I think, "Une maison est une machine-á-habiter", a house is a machine for living in. We could add that to that concept article, and although I like architecture, I think whatever we put at that broad concept article might be quite, um, subjective? Orwell I think in A Nice Cup of Tea (no, must be another one: Decline of the English Murder is where it is, describes Father with feet up by the fireplace, Mother cooking lamb with potatoes under the roast, couple of children playing around and so on (a life he never had of course), in a way which is very "liveable", I think it is such a vague concept that I am not sure that even a broad concept article could cover it. In an architectural sense it probably could do. Throwing out suggestions, homely, des. res., probably neither of those quite goes to where I should expect. Homely would in the mid 20thC. be a euphemism for "fat", essentially. Very homely womam. But perhaps again that is just me thinking of Orwell, I think he described women in many of his essays thus. When someone asks for a broad concept article, I don't think it is down to checking links, I think it is what it means to you. Si Trew (talk) 10:44, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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First Sino-Indian War

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) feminist 06:16, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This incident is referred to as Sino-indian war not the first sino-indian war. There were minor skirmishes which happened later but are wrongly termed as the second sino-indian war. Adamgerber80 (talk) 23:06, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Very well indicated by Patar Knight! Several reliable sources use the term "First Sino-Indian War". - coconut1002 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coconut1002 (talkcontribs) 22:13, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have no doubt Patar Knight is correct on this one, but we still have to sort out the second etc... then we can tidy the both up together. 13:29, 10 April 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SimonTrew (talkcontribs)
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Relisting comment: relisting so the First and Second Sino-Indian War redirects are next to each other
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Second Sino-Indian War

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Girl Moment

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 17:38, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, so this is apparently a term used by pedophiles. Check the history if you'd like—could be much worse. It's not mentioned at the target article and probably never would be. --BDD (talk) 17:16, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, but if it is a British phrase, it should go to paedophilia (were it to go anywhere) with the British spelling. I ain't worried about the WP:ENGVAR. Just this does seem like a rather odd place to put it. Si Trew (talk) 14:31, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Sinsinwar

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Ichirō Itano

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African Philosophy (1369-6823)

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 13:38, 4 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, these aren't the same journals. From the page history, the disambiguator is an ISSN. The article, however, gives two numbers, and neither of them are this one. -- Tavix (talk) 21:07, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Personally, I'd love to read a journal on African Philosophy from the years 1369–6823. It'll kick off during the height of the Mali Empire and finish more than 4,800 years in the future. -- Tavix (talk) 13:35, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Botte

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. N.b., this was an edit conflict; the discussion was relisted as I was disambiguating the title. --BDD (talk) 16:43, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not a likely misspelling, we have Theodorico de Sacadura Botte, Mount Pieter Botte, Rocca di Botte, Rocco Botte and Botte Donato, but these are all partial title matches so there is no need to disambiguate. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 01:49, 31 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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P2008

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Category:Musical families

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The result of the discussion was procedural close. --BDD (talk) 16:36, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I've been working a bit in the area of Category:Show business families and we do have subcategories such as Category:Acting families, as well as Category:Family musical groups, for families that perform together. I do not believe the nominated category should be a soft redirect to Category:Show business families, but a bona fide category on its own, for there are good number of such families and I don't think they should be lumped in with the too-general "show business." Do I need to have support at Rfd before replacing the redirect? The current redirect didn't seem to come out of any previous discussion. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 16:22, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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List of important opera terminology

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The result of the discussion was delete. The rough consensus is that the combination of subjective "important" and redirecting "terminology" to "list of topics" makes this a bit far-fetched to be a helpful redirect. Deryck C. 17:40, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The word "important" is subjective. Steel1943 (talk) 22:27, 21 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Nyttend: The article resided at List of important opera terminology for about half a day (i.e. 12 hours) on June 22, 2008. See here. I would agree with you per WP:R#K4 if it had been at this title for a substantial amount of time. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 10:06, 10 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
So? The title has been a blue link for nearly nine years, making it likely to have gotten links in all that time. Nyttend (talk) 13:04, 10 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You stated "not to mention however long the article was at this title", so I thought I'd check the page history and see how long it was there. I didn't know how much of a factor that was in your !vote. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 14:17, 10 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Pure3D

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 03:10, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Pure3D" does not occur in the target article once. Lordtobi () 10:52, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That makes it a bit WP:RFD#D2 confusing, by RFD's usual lights (well mine) but I would have said more that this might be WP:XY. I have seen so many productsm,, graphics cards and tellies and stuff, marked "Pure3D" that I don't think we can pin it on any one of them. Trying to rack my brains here. Perhaps Delete for that reason. Others will have other opinions. Si Trew (talk) 23:39, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Most of the gsearch results I get are for graphics cards from various manufacturers. Perhaps it's a bit WP:XY. I don't think it is a trademark. Si Trew (talk) 23:42, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Vietnamwar

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) feminist 06:15, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unlikely typo. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 09:47, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That would then be when it should have been InterCapped. I guess an early editor ([User:Mav]] in fact) just missed the cap on the "w", but it has been around so long I agree with Steely, Keep. It has done no harm in fifteen years. I'll rcat as ((R from incorrect name)) if not already done, without prejudice of course. Si Trew (talk) 12:04, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It's ((R from misspelling)), but I am not going to split hairs. Si Trew (talk) 12:06, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Jezza Corbyn

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Uanfala (talk) 12:34, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Pure slang, and a nickname which is never used for Jeremy Corbyn. Don't think this redirect is at all necessary Class455 (talk|stand clear of the doors!) 09:40, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Hoed

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. I was going to close as retarget, per Thryduulf, when I came across De Hoed ("de" just being "the" in Dutch). So I could've done that and converted to a disambiguation page via normal editorial action, but I don't expect this to be controversial. See also WP:NOTBURO. --BDD (talk) 16:21, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) I just found this by way of drafting the dab for hodd. Si Trew (talk) 08:32, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I can't find any evidence that "Hoed" is the name of the norse god etc. This is a back-formation by ((eubot). I think it is a long way out. I was going to add it to the draft DAB which we are doing for the one below, but then realised this is a bit of WP:RFD#D5 nonsense really. At best it would be WP:XY. This is why Goed does not exist. Si Trew (talk) 08:39, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. That's odd. It used to turn over the page at UTC, one hour behind me depending on where I am but now it turned it over on a different time zone? (I am UTC+3 right now) Si Trew (talk) 08:52, 21 April 2017 (UTC). I would have expected to be able to backlink to the discussion. Si Trew (talk) 08:54, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Which is at Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2017_April_20#Hodd... I can understand it turning over, am I losing my mind, because I was listing this morning at the 20th page and now we are on the 21st page. Has someone changed the settings for when it turns over? I was just in the middle of drafting the DAB when it turned over. Si Trew (talk) 08:56, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Probably am losing my mind. I was just catching up on yesterday's. Si Trew (talk) 08:59, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I never thought of the past tense of hoe... was trying to think in a very Scrabble like manner but that never occured to me. How odd. Or should I say hoe ed. Anyway, it would be WP:NOUN wouldn't it. Si Trew (talk) 23:16, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Johals

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Johal. (non-admin closure) feminist 11:05, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The term is not used in the article, so the connection is unclear. -- Tavix (talk) 20:57, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Musically

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The result of the discussion was keep. I'm not sure there's consensus for feminist and Thryduulf's suggestion for adding a hatnote at the target, so I'm leaving this to editor discretion. (non-admin closure) Uanfala (talk) 12:27, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

R3 doesn't quite apply as this is a plausible redirect, even though unlikely, while Music, Musical theatre or Musical all have legitimate claims to be the primary usage. My inclination would be to redirect this to the dab page at Musical rather than try to second-guess the reader, but I can also see a legitimate case for a soft redirect to wikt:Musically.  ‑ Iridescent 21:10, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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.*Delete. WP:NOT an advertisement for a band or musical group. I think we should at the very best redirect to Music, but it is best off deleted. We are not an advertisement for other people's websites. Si Trew (talk) 23:22, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Cannabis by American presidential admministration

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The result of the discussion was deleted by RHaworth. --BDD (talk) 16:20, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

misspelling; category has been recreated --Another Believer (Talk) 01:53, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Right, taking to CSD as a simple error. Si Trew (talk) 08:46, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Listed at CSD. Si Trew (talk) 08:49, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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