December 2

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 2, 2019.

Pokemon card list

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:57, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Target page is not a list of cards... Steel1943 (talk) 23:58, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Pokémon movies and special episodes

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The result of the discussion was delete. I'm WP:INVOLVED but on the other side, so I hope no one will mind. I don't want to hold up what otherwise looks like an uncontroversial decision. --BDD (talk) 16:02, 13 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The phrase "special episodes" would have to refer to Pokémon (anime), leaving these redirects with WP:XY issues. Steel1943 (talk) 21:28, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Pokémon Photo Booth

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 December 12#Pokémon Photo Booth

Pokémon Playhouse

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The result of the discussion was retarget to List of Pokémon video games#Pokémon Playhouse. Consider this withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 21:41, 3 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target article. Steel1943 (talk) 21:24, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Pokémon/Pocket Monster games

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The result of the discussion was retarget to List of Pokémon video games. Consensus has developed that this is the best target for actually covering the aspects mentioned in this title. ~ mazca talk 20:04, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Confusing, WP:XY-ish redirects, considering that List of Pokémon exists and that there is no list of Pokémon at the redirect's target. Steel1943 (talk) 21:09, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Glitch City

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 December 12#Glitch City

Pokémon Glitches

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:56, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No such list in target article. Steel1943 (talk) 21:04, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Pokemon magmared

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:55, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target article. Seems to be a fan-made concept of some sort. Steel1943 (talk) 21:01, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Pokémon clone

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The result of the discussion was delete. Thryduulf (talk) 11:32, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target article, and even if it was, there is no evidence that such a phrase is exclusive to the video game series. Steel1943 (talk) 20:59, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Pokémon USA Inc.

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 December 12#Pokémon USA Inc.

Pokemon miniseries

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:54, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No mention of a "miniseries" in the target article. Also, Pokémon (anime) is not a miniseries. Steel1943 (talk) 20:48, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Poké Flute

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:54, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

WP:INUNIVERSE concept not mentioned in target article. Steel1943 (talk) 20:46, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Various settings in Pokémon

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 December 13#Various settings in Pokémon

მია მალკოვა

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:53, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Malkova appears to be American, and there's no mention of Georgia anywhere in the article, which would make this subject to deletion per WP:FORRED. signed, Rosguill talk 18:36, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Dell Financial Services

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The result of the discussion was delete. Not mentioned in target, so the consensus seems to be that it's an inappropriate redirect at this time. This is expressly not a consensus that (a) this couldn't theoretically be a stand-alone article itself, or (b) this couldn't be mentioned in a reasonable way in Dell or elsewhere - but after a month of inconclusive discussion that is not currently the case. ~ mazca talk 21:12, 22 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned anywhere in the target article. Searched for "Dell Financial Services," "Financial services," and "DFS." At some point, the Dell article may be updated to include a Financial Services section; however, as of right now, seems to be too soon. Redirect was created less than a year ago, possibly by a single editor who tired of typing in "/wiki/Dell_Financial_Services" and coming up with the no page exists page. Doug Mehus (talk) 00:33, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Those aren't mentioned in the target article. I'm not making an argument on notability. I'm saying there's no mention in the next of the text of the Dell article to Dell Financial Services. That's a key criterion. If we're going to start keeping redirects because of a word or two in the URL of a cited reference/footnote, then why the heck do we bother deleting any redirects? Note, too, this redirect was added in a bold move, less than a year ago. We somehow managed to get by without it for 20 years or so. As well, there's no indication it's widely used. S Marshall, care to weigh in here? Doug Mehus (talk) 23:45, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
AnUnnamedUser You had me curious if I missed the citation, but I just checked and there was no reference to "financial-services" in a footnote. I searched the article and the page source for the article; found nothing. So, for now, it remains a delete. Doug Mehus (talk) 23:50, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I retain my opinion per criterion 5 of WP:RFD#KEEP, which says that usefulness of a redirect is a valid reason for keeping it. I believe that if Dell Financial Services exists, someone is bound to search for its article. From AnUnnamedUser (open talk page) 23:58, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
AnUnnamedUser Okay, fair enough. Thanks for your reply and clarifying your keep reason. Doug Mehus (talk) 00:11, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
S Marshall True, and I did think about #2, but also thought that this redirect wasn't especially useful so whenever an editor decided to add a brief paragraph or so in a section of Dell, we could easily re-create the previously deleted Dell Financial Services redirect. I also contemplated creating a separate article for Dell Financial Services, but couldn't find any reliable sources which met both WP:SIGCOV and WP:CORPDEPTH. I guess I'll stick with my original proposal to delete, for now, without prejudice to re-creating it in the future when a future section arises. Doug Mehus (talk) 00:11, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
59.149.124.29, well said. Very nicely and concisely put.Doug Mehus T·C 00:55, 17 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943 (talk) 19:40, 21 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
But it's not mentioned in the target article, and it's an unlikely search term (someone is just going to search for "dell"). I'm surprised delete isn't stronger here, since consensus can change and we can already create a new article if and Dell Financial Services has standalone notability (it doesn't), or it's mentioned in the target article. --Doug Mehus T·C 21:05, 21 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Dell Financial Services is a real thing. That makes it a likely search term. Unlike the Dell Department of Deranged Despots. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 22:13, 21 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Deryck C. 17:52, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Shit Happens in Gaza

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:52, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Based on a web search, the phrase "Shit Happens in Gaza" is not used off-wiki specifically to refer to civilian casualties of Israeli operations in the Gaza Strip. At best, this is an editor's personal shortcut, which is not appropriate in mainspace (article space) and can be replaced with a personal bookmark. (Courtesy pinging the redirect's creator, User:Huldra) -- Black Falcon (talk) 04:50, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • That's not true. Redirects from terms not mentioned in the redirects' target articles are allowed in some circumstances (misspellings, for example). Granted, this is not one of those circumstances. Glades12 (talk) 16:09, 5 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Viridian City

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The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 16:51, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in the target article, nor is this subject of this redirect exclusive to its target, considering that the subject is also present in Pokémon (anime) (though this redirect is not mentioned there either.) Also note that similar titles, such as Pallet Town and Cinnabar Island, do not exist. Steel1943 (talk) 01:35, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Pokémon High Voltage

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:49, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target article, and no evidence that this is an alternative name for the target. Also, third party search engines seem to return results for some sort of meme related to Pokémon, but not specifically related to the target. Steel1943 (talk) 01:19, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Ashley Grace

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 03:36, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure what to do here. After an article merge, this currently redirects to Ha*Ash, as one of the band members is named Ashley Grace. However, actress Ashley Hinshaw has lately been credited by her married name, which is also "Ashley Grace". IMO, either Ashley Hinshaw should be moved to Ashley Grace, or Ashley Grace should be converted into a WP:DABPAGE... Thoughts? --IJBall (contribstalk) 01:13, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it would depend on how many people would use "Ashley Grace" to search for "Ha*Ash", @Pulisic Endler: any thoughts? Would "Ashley Grace" be a common search term? If not, I'm fine with Ashley Hinshaw being merged over, with a hatnote to Ha*Ash - ChrisWar666 (talk) 01:49, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Ashley Grace for Ha*Ash is by far the more common stage name for the musician compared to Ashley Grace Perez AngusWOOF (barksniff) 18:31, 4 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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RBY

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. From AngusWOOF's list, I've excluded RBY-1 and the Kingdom of Araba only because I wasn't sure how to include them. --BDD (talk) 16:48, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not an alternative name for the target, especially given the absence of the word "Pokémon". In addition, if this is assumed to be an acronym for "red blue yellow", this redirect could also refer to RYB color model. Steel1943 (talk) 01:13, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-American

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 December 11#Non-American

Pokémon Red, Blue, and Yellow Versions

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Pokémon (video game series)#First generation (1996–1999). (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 03:39, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

WP:XY, considering that Pokémon Yellow is a separate article. Steel1943 (talk) 00:41, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Yellow version

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:39, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The phrase "yellow version" is vague and could refer to other topics, such as color versions of various video game platforms or almost any other object. Steel1943 (talk) 00:34, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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