June 21

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 21, 2020.

Five-Day Revolution

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Ivern

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 21:19, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is another League of Legends character not mentioned at the target. We have articles about both the character's English voice actor David Lodge (voice actor) and the Japanese voice actor Jin Urayama, and for that matter I could probably create an article on the Korean voice actor Oh In-seong (wikidata:Q11261612), but targetting a character to a performer runs into WP:XY problems. Separately, Ivern is also a surname, but we don't have an article about anyone by this surname (it is the maternal surname of Emilio Jacinto Mauri, but it seems it's not actually used to refer to him, so I don't think a ((R from surname)) to him would be justifiable.) It's also the Occitan word for winter, covered at wikt:ivern. Anyway I'd suggest deleting and letting the search engine do its job. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 23:31, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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History of the world

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. signed, Rosguill talk 21:19, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think this redirect should go to World history because that seems like the likely target. However, I don't feel comfortable changing the redirect myself because of the large number of pages this would affect, but this is something that I am willing to do if the consensus is to change the redirect. Interstellarity (talk) 17:24, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Bank station (Ottawa)

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Graded-commutative

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. The majority of participants were in agreement to retarget, but no one addressed Deacon Vorbis's objection. No prejudice against renomination if it addresses Deacon's concerns. signed, Rosguill talk 21:17, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Supercommutative algebra, as not only referring to rings? 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 12:42, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OK, not a big deal. Charles Matthews (talk) 12:52, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Episode 420

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WhatCulture

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The result of the discussion was speedy deleted per WP:CSD#G4 by Boing! said Zebedee. (non-admin closure) ComplexRational (talk) 19:52, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at the target. Searching online, it doesn't seem that WhatCulture is an example of a dirt sheet as described at the target (and even if it was, the redirect would be of dubious use unless it was due to mention at the target). Delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 20:57, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Kill Them All

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Kill Them All (film)

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Kill 'Em All (film). (non-admin closure) Mdaniels5757 (talk) 20:53, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at the target or at List of Paramount Pictures films (2020–2029), delete unless a duly sourced mention can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 19:33, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Two World Trade Cenetr

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The result of the discussion was keep. signed, Rosguill talk 21:13, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unlikely mis-spelling "cenetr". Didn't notice it at first. Was created, then moved to a better spelling, tagged for speedy deletion much later, and declined as old. Lithopsian (talk) 19:23, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Spider-Man toys

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 21:12, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There are no such lists at the target article. Category:Spider-Man merchandise has only one member: Category:Spider-Man toys, which containts 6 articles so it might be possible to create a list of toys specifically and/or merchandise more generally or the redirects could be retargetted to the categories, but the present target is misleading. Thryduulf (talk) 16:43, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Autro-Hungarian empire

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The result of the discussion was Closed as withdrawn. (non-admin closure) ((3125A|talk)) 13:48, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No one would search Austro-Hungarian empire without the "s", because the "s" is clearly heard in the words "Austro-Hungarian empire". Check out the average page view: 1 view per day. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's a very low number. ((31))((25A (talk))) 14:46, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Comparative morphology

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Characters in Lego Star Wars

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 23:40, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

These are referring to the Lego games. Not sure whether the first one listed should be deleted, but definitely delete the second. OcelotCreeper (talk) 14:57, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Powerfist

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The result of the discussion was delete. Thryduulf is right about this being the correct spelling/usage for this term, but the lack of mention is still cause enough for deletion. signed, Rosguill talk 21:12, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is a poorly-named (ungrammatical, bad grammar) popular culture term redirected to an article no longer even mentioning the term, but even if it wasn't run-together words, there's a historical/ancient term needed to be redirected to first (otherwise disambiguation: ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changquan#Hand_forms dchmelik (t|c) 09:32, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:Welcome/Partners

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 21:11, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unneeded cross-namespace redirect to userspace DannyS712 (talk) 09:09, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@JenOttawa: Notifying you as a courtesy because I believe this has something to do with a project you were involved with. @Paolocmartin: If you would like us to delete this redirect immediately, rather than going through this full discussion, you can tag it with ((db-author)) and an administrator will delete it for you. Note that this is a discussion about the redirect from Wikipedia:Welcome/Partners to the page User:Paolocmartin/Welcome/Partners. There is no need to delete the latter page if you wish to keep it. If you do nothing, then the community will decide what to do with the redirect over the course of the next week or so. --NYKevin 20:48, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Lady A

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The result of the discussion was moot. The RM found consensus to move the page to Lady A. Closing to prevent a further forked discussion. Whether to create a disambiguation page at this point should be handled by our normal editorial processes. Wug·a·po·des 01:47, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There are two possible redirect targets that use this name: Lady Antebellum and Anita White. In my view, a disambiguation page would be proper here, but a user has repeatedly reverted this. Sandstein 06:43, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • I disagree. As you write, the move discussion appears almost certain to not end with the page being moved. There is therefore no reason to defer the RfD. Sandstein 15:47, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • How about actually reading the discussion and seeing that the consensus is moving Lady Antebellum to their actual name of Lady A?--BaseFree (talk) 18:03, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Regardless of what we think the RM is going to do, this RfD will implicitly override the outcome of that discussion. Therefore, if you truly think the RM discussion is fruitless, you should go ask an uninvolved administrator to close it early. Starting a second discussion at RfD while the RM is still formally open could be (mis)interpreted as a backdoor attempt to undermine the RM. This would undermine the legitimacy of both discussions, and we would likely end up at DRV for a third round, possibly followed by a second RM or a relist at RfD (for a grand total of four discussions). I really would prefer to avoid that outcome. --NYKevin 03:03, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Lady A, as of the rename, is the name used by reliable sources for the band. WP:NAMECHANGES is unambiguous here: we use the name reliable sources use.
  2. WP:R#ASTONISH is unambiguous here too. We do not surprise readers. Let's look at the graph of views. "Lady A" has declined in views, whilst "Lady Antebellum" has risen, due to the extra friction we're creating. Anite White peaked her views and she's now down to 100-200 views per day. The band has consistently been at 1.5k and is currently trending at 3-4k per day, after peaking at 25k. "Lady A", being the mess of a page it is, peaked at 40k before sharply declining due to the state of the page. With a quick search we see that even before the name change, and before the band was known as "Lady A", most searches for Lady A led to the band. Spotify was already using the name. Reliable sources were already using the name. Anita White is nowhere to be found on these searches, anywhere on these pages. You can scroll through the pages and the result is the same: people used this as a shortcut to get to the band.
  3. Nothing has changed. Interest in Anita White is minimal, aside from the naming controversy, which is what most the content on her Wikipedia page is about. Wikipedia is not a platform for advocacy. If the band decides to reverse their name change, or the reliable sources decide to stop using "Lady A" and make the political statement themselves, that's fine, we'll follow suit. But this has not happened. We're inconvincing users looking for information on a band who is known as Lady A, who are by far the most popular user of that name, and is the same name reliable sources use. We're creating inconsistency between the lead and article title. And we're creating inconsistency between the infobox Google is showing, and the article on Wikipedia.
I'm fine with the existing hatnote at the top of Lady Antebellum to alert the small number of users who might be looking for Anita White. But, policy is clear: this should not be a dab page. It would be like making George Floyd a dab page just because George Floyd (American football) exists - the latter was actually moved from George Floyd after it became clear interest was in the former, not the latter. The same applies here. Though this discussion is moot because the move discussion is indeed not closed, and the result is not clear (as arguments on Wikipedia are based on policy, not vote) until an uninvolved and experienced editor closes it. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 19:25, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Procedurally Close: Edit: BaseFree is correct, the consensus at that discussion is indeed to move to Lady A. The wording of the move request was changed half way through, so the "Support" and "Oppose" has been jumbled up, but on a closer read of the policy arguments, and the note left by another user, it is clear what the intentions of the !votes is, and there is an overwhelming majority to move to Lady A. Hence, this request should be procedurally closed as moot, in my opinion, and the current Lady A should be moved to Lady A (disambiguation) ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 19:39, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Archeway

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1985 Cops from Hell Bombing.

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 21:10, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Heavily POV title. Very unlikely search term. SummerPhDv2.0 04:31, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Occupy Paedophilia

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