March 26

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 26, 2023.

Phillipe Aubert du Gaspé (son)

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 4#Phillipe Aubert du Gaspé (son)

Three-Body - TV series

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Editors remain divided on whether WP:PANDORA is a reasonable basis for deleting a redirect that has already been created. signed, Rosguill talk 06:38, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pointless (just one week old) redirect per WP:RDAB, WP:PANDORA...are there any more of these out there? 35.139.154.158 (talk) 06:39, 18 March 2023 (UTC) Update: also nominating all the ones of the same form thanks to the finding below. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 15:50, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In any case - hope this helps in some way - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - Drbogdan (talk) 16:27, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Add - If interested, I recently (3/20/2023) posted the related WikiProblem (bug?) of dropping WikiArticle Title endings and creating WP:RDs as a recommended possible Solution (and other related Solutions) on the Village Pump - Technical at the following => Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 204#Problem: External postings of article title links continue to drop endings of titles? - as well as - at => User talk:Drbogdan#Redirects - hope this helps - iac - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - Drbogdan (talk) 14:24, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Digvijay Chautala

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Digvijay Singh Chautala. Salvio giuliano 19:16, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

redirect should be deleted -- name of a candidate in the previous election, no notability, no relevance, very confusing that the name of a private individual redirects to a page about an election Fishing Publication (talk) 18:45, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Life Before Earth

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The result of the discussion was delete. While plausible as a search term, most editors opposed suggested potential targets as not sufficiently supported by sources in relation to the search term. signed, Rosguill talk 06:27, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as unhelpful/unclear; not what this article is about. An anonymous username, not my real name 01:17, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm also fine with refining to Extraterrestrial life#Characteristics, the section mentioned by Scyrme. Jay 💬 07:50, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Staff (2023). "Definition – Abiogenesis". Wiktionary. Retrieved 26 March 2023.
  2. ^ Staff (2023). "Definition – Abiogenesis". Merriam-Webster. Retrieved 26 March 2023.
  3. ^ Sharov, Alexei A. (2006). "Genome increase as a clock for the origin and evolution of life". Biology Direct. 1: 17. doi:10.1186/1745-6150-1-17. PMC 1526419. PMID 16768805.
  4. ^ Sharov, Alexei A.; Gordon, Richard (2013). "Life Before Earth". arXiv:1304.3381v1 [physics.gen-ph].
  5. ^ Sharov, Alexei A.; Gordon, Richard (2018). "Life Before Earth". Habitability of the Universe Before Earth: Life Before Earth. Astrobiology Exploring Life on Earth and Beyond. Academic Press. pp. 265–296. doi:10.1016/B978-0-12-811940-2.00011-3. ISBN 9780128119402. S2CID 117048600. Retrieved 25 March 2023.

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That said, "abiogenesis" ordinarily refers to the origin of life on Earth not in general, and this is reflected in the content of Abiogenesis the vast majority of which is concerned with terrestrial abiogenesis. Of-course "abiogenesis" could encompass extraterrestrial abiogenesis and the article does mention panspermia, but it is not the main topic of that article. The article is predominantly concerned with Earth and the conditions that made life on Earth possible, with even extraterrestrial factors being mentioned in the context of their effect on the Earth.
Furthermore, the phrase "life before Earth" does not necessarily indicate that a reader is looking for anything about where life originated whether abiogenically or not. It says nothing about where life originated or how, only when. Perhaps the searcher is interested in whether life was possible on other planets before Earth became habitable, not necessarily even in the context of panspermia but simply whether it could even have existed indepenently long before the Earth was inhabited. That's a reasonable thing to ask, even without getting into fringe theories. As far as I'm aware, there is no article or section that deals with that particular question. With these considerations neither abiogenesis nor panspermia make good targets for even the lowercase version.
If the lowercase is created, my preference would be for it to point to Earliest known life forms, an article which mentions abiogenesis and panspermia but isn't narrowly focused on 'origin of life' topics, rather it's concerned with the broader question of the earliest life (a redirect to Earliest known life forms).Scyrme (talk) 18:45, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Jay: Although the term "panspermia" does only occur in an image caption, the actual concept is discussed in the text following the sentence begining The possibility that.... If you feel this is undue, then perhaps it should be removed.
That said, taking a closer look at Extraterrestrial life it seems that article does cover the particular question I mentioned: during a habitable epoch when the universe was only 10–17 million years old. Life may have emerged independently at many places throughout the universe, as it arose on Earth roughly 4.2 billion years ago through chemical processes. (Extraterrestrial life § Characteristics)
In light of that, I now prefer Extraterrestrial life for the lowercase. – Scyrme (talk) 07:02, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
For what it's worth, this paper uses the term Abiogenesis in an extraterrestrial sense. "Panspermia assumes that, at least once, life originated in the Universe as a result of the natural processes (abiogenesis) but does not address the problem how this original life began." Cambalachero (talk) 19:57, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
My point was not that "abiogenesis" refers exclusively to the origin of life on Earth, only that it usually refers to the origin of life on Earth. In the past "abiogenesis" was used in reference to the origin of life on Earth, a historically controversial question, and given that no extraterrestrial life is known to exist that remains the context in which is it usually discussed outside the speculative field of astrobiology, a relatively young and small field compared to fields like natural history and evolutionary biology. Of-course there are sources that use it in reference to extraterrestrial life in the context of astrobiology (like that one); I never intended to suggest otherwise. – Scyrme (talk) 20:26, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Secondary Period

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The result of the discussion was keep. There was agreement that disambiguation will be helpful, but it was not clear how the page will look like. A better location for the disambiguation was proposed to be the lowercased Secondary period, which was not part of this nomination. The discussion also did not resolve any potential inconsistencies between the lowercased title and the title under discussion, if this is to be turned into a disambiguation. No prejudice against creation of a disambiguation page; or a fresh nomination of the lowercased title, or a bundling of titles, including the addition of Primary period to the mix. Jay 💬 08:41, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as misleading; the Mesozoic is an era, not a period. An anonymous username, not my real name 03:05, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment: I do not support or oppose the nomination, but I *do* believe it should be handled in the same manner as Secondary period (which redirects to the same place, Mesozoic) and Primary period (which redirects to Paleozoic). Jdaloner (talk) 05:33, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Disambiguate/Keep – Periods within the Mesozoic era do have synonymous names as secondary periods, and there is evidence of "secondary period" being used as a uniting term for all three, such as these Google Books results: [1] [2] [3]. Since its use is verifiable, this is a plausible search term to lead to the Mesozoic era. Misleadingness is not a problem here, since the target is not unexpected. ((R from incorrect name)) can be used, however.
However, it is ambiguous. On Wikipedia, this term is commonly used for star brightness cycles based on results of a search. Variable star may work as a link in that case, though I'm not sure whether it is covered properly there. Secondary education also appears to be a reasonable search target. It does seem plausible for Mesozoic to be the primary topic, making a DAB page unnecessary, though. Randi Moth (talk) 18:45, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"Secondary education also appears to be a reasonable search target."
Secondary education itself does not refer to its topic as such, and I've never encountered "secondary period" as a reference to secondary education. Searching around for "secondary+period" most of my results appeared to be related to finance/law (Google, Bing), astronomy/space (Google Scholar, ScienceDirect) or various periodic phenomena in biology (ScienceDirect; usually alongside references to an "initial period"), not education. Education seems like a stretch to me. Did you find something I didn't? – Scyrme (talk) 22:47, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Found it be used in Education in Thailand and assumed it to be more common. Of course, Wikipedia articles themselves are not a good indicator whether this is common or not. If using "secondary period" for education is implausible, then keeping the redirect to Mesozoic is fine with a hatnote added linking to the variable star cycles per WP:ONEOTHER. Randi Moth (talk) 08:41, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at Education in Thailand, it could just be a particular editor's choice of wording, perhaps to avoid confusion as elsewhere it uses "level" not "period" ("elementary and secondary levels") but at the particular instance where "period" is used "level" has been used in reference to a particular qualification ("Three levels of TVE"). – Scyrme (talk) 12:40, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Color Lines (Loop)

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 4#Color Lines (Loop)

When Quads Won't Leave

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Queen’s Slipper

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 03:27, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target. Onel5969 TT me 22:35, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Public display of dead

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The result of the discussion was delete. Salvio giuliano 07:41, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ambiguous with various articles about display of bodies before funerals. We could DAB, but I think it makes more sense to simply delete and let the search results handle things. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 07:26, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Public display

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The result of the discussion was delete. Salvio giuliano 07:41, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Very unexpected target. There's room for a DAB also including Publication § United States and maybe Public display of affection or some things relating to display of bodies before funerals, but I think it makes more sense to simply delete and let the search results handle thin -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 07:25, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Luka magic

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The result of the discussion was keep. Salvio giuliano 07:37, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

All references in the target article to 'magic' refer to Magic Johnson -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:56, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Elijah Bynum

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The result of the discussion was delete. Salvio giuliano 07:36, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bynum has now directed two movies, the other being Magazine Dreams. The redirect is unhelpful and confusing for readers. Nardog (talk) 04:01, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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List of terrorists

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The result of the discussion was retarget to List of designated terrorist groups. Salvio giuliano 07:43, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect target is not a list of terrorists, nor does it contain a list of terrorists. Either this should be deleted per WP:REDYES to make room for an article, or it could reasonably be retargeted to List of designated terrorist groups as ((r to related topic)). I favor the latter option over the former. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 04:01, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Κλέφτης

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The result of the discussion was delete. Salvio giuliano 07:35, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is the English Wikipedia. It's nonsense to keep a soft redirect in another language. Proposing deletion or transwikifying to elwiki. Jalen Folf (talk) 00:26, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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