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Is it really of any value to put "Anti-Pornography Movement" in the see also for this article? I can't see any relation between a movement which fights against unlawful, felonious activity and a movement which fights against something that has been determined by courts to be legal under most circumstances. Furthermore, I believe that tagging "Anti-Pornography Movement" with Anti-pedophile activism is meant as a subtle hit against the movement described in this article. 71.194.27.178 (talk) 08:47, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Ah, but the problem is that pedosexuality is only seen as a 'less acceptable thing' by so many people because they are brainwashed (with threats of physical injury unless they adhere to those other people's moral beliefs) from very young. In fact, I would say that the SAME THING was done with homosexuality, and that there needs to be some discussion in the article about that. Lerianis (talk) 22:24, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
A user has removed a link to a static page on boychat.org (which verifies the board's webmaster history), because he feels that the forum element of the same site contains a death threat against himself:
Hmmmm. The fruits that scrutiny bears. GrooV (talk) 21:00, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
"rv - there is nothing but a dab page at that wikilink" The disambiguation page had an explanation I added referring to activism and pedophilia separately. That's all it needed. Tyciol (talk) 03:24, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
Okay, if anti-pedophile activism includes activism against pedophiles, then rather than including activism against pedophile activism (or activism against pro-pedophile activism) shouldn't they be called anti-pedophile activism activism and anti pro-pedophile activism activism respectively? Activism against activism needs 2 activisms to indicate that they are against an activism rather than a topic. That is like being a counter-activism activism I think, I am not sure the term for that but it would need to be distinguished since it is different. These would more specifically indicate what a group or person is. Including these two under the title indicates that they are against pedophiles. You can be against pro-pedophile activism and against the idea of activism by pedophiles without actually being against pedophiles individually, so they are different concepts. Tyciol (talk) 17:05, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
I think this article has a bit of a pro-pedophile bias, since it portrays anti-pedophile activists as radical vigilantes, while they would probably view themselves as protectors of children and defenders of family values. ADM (talk) 23:52, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
The Pedophile Activism article doesn't exist anymore, it just takes you to Age of Consent Reform, it's one small section thats ALOT smaller than the original, but they still have the ANTI-Pedophile Activism article. How can you have Anti-Pedophile Activism WITHOUT Pedophile Activism? Seems odd to me. It's just information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.181.90.191 (talk) 23:20, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
In the state that the article is now, it doesn't seem to serve much purpose anymore within the encyclopedia. It's mostly about Perverted-Justice, and that organization has its own page. Besides, there's no longer any article pertaining to what used to be called "pro-pedophile activism" on Wikipedia, yet there are still references to it here. This article needs to either be rewritten or merged into other relevant articles. What do others think? ~ Homologeo (talk) 01:03, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
In terms of what can be salvaged, the only pertinent information unique to this article seems to be within the section on Local Activism. Everything else is either about Perverted Justice and its affiliates or critiques thereof. Although there is mention of some other groups, they don't meet the necessary criteria for inclusion on Wikipedia, especially that "anonymous group." Not sure if info regarding Predator Hunter should remain, and, if so, where. These are my 2 cents. ~ Homologeo (talk) 05:58, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
The term activism is defined in the Wikipedia article as "intentional action to bring about social, political, economic, or environmental change. This action is in support of, or opposition to, one side of an often controversial argument." That does not apply to the content of this article. There is no controversial debate and no "intentional action" to bring about change. This article describes vigilante actions targeting individuals that the vigilantes believe to be breaking the laws against child sexual abuse. Most of the article is about Perverted-Justice, with a bit about a couple less notable examples listed, but there is no information about activism at all. The topic does not have coherent notable coverage in reliable sources other than news stories of various isolated incidents. I don't think there is enough to hold it together as an encyclopedia article. I suggest a redirect to Moral panics#Pedophilia or Perverted Justice. --Jack-A-Roe (talk) 05:04, 20 December 2009 (UTC) [Comment re-edited. --Jack-A-Roe (talk) 06:45, 6 January 2010 (UTC)]
While the stated goal of the site is to expose criminal activity, many of those profiled are listed solely due to contact with suspected pedophiles, or membership in groups which advocate for changes in sex-offender law or the age of consent.
--62.60.98.133 (talk) 20:31, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
You hit the nail on the head with your statement. The fact is that the anti-pedosexual (which that would be a better term for pedophiles since homosexuality was once called homophilia and if you really wanted to, you could say that since some people have 'guilt' with heterosexual actions, that it is heterophilia) movement and anti-pedosexual activism thing is not about protecting children, it is about keeping the 'morality' of a very few on the rest of society. Lerianis (talk) 22:18, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
An editor inserted this material:
I removed it because the source doesn't seem to address the assertion made in the edit. It (the source) also appears to be the work of s... well, at least a hothead, if not out-and-out lunatic. So that would cast doubt on its reliability. So at least for now I don't this material should be included. If it is accurate, we need a better source I think. Herostratus (talk) 03:22, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
At the moment, there is going a big anti-pedophile movement related with the controversy of lt:Drąsius Kedys ant "Pedophile clan". That should be included here. [3] Hugo.arg (talk) 21:53, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
No consensus to move. Vegaswikian (talk) 05:47, 22 June 2010 (UTC) Anti-pedophile activism → Anti-paedophile activism — This article has been in bad shape for a while. Now that it has survived an AfD discussion, it's time to remove all the information that does not belong here, update the sourcing, and encourage new legitimate contributions to the text. I've edited the Perverted-Justice section tonight, and will possibly work on the other parts of the article later (time permitting). Please feel free to participate in the improvement of the text. As for my part, I openly admit I do not see, at this point, how this article can be salvaged, and consider the topic not notable enough for inclusion within the project. This being said, I will help with "cleaning house," copyediting and formatting. If others know more about the subject matter and can provide good citations, they are encouraged to voice their suggestions on the discussion page and to edit the article itself. Relistsed. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 11:24, 15 June 2010 (UTC) ~ Homologeo (talk) 05:02, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
I've cleaned it up a bit, and removed encyclopaedic content. Things which need to be done:
Also, should we move the article to Anti-paedophile activism ? The article's text uses that spelling consistently.Claritas § 20:29, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
Oppose- There is no reason to use the British spelling. Pedophile is more phonetic, and the article Pedophilia, as well as most of Wikipedia, use pedophile. So it would be more work to change all spellings to paedophile. Not only that, but if the sources do more often use "pedophile", then that is even more reason it should be spelled that way. --WikiDonn (talk) 23:18, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
http://vk.com/video173717254_165886613?list=72fd7b61013c140e59 https://vimeo.com/72485024 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.219.130.160 (talk) 13:09, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
WP:NOTNEWS, notability, unlikely to become a full article, currently best to be a redirect and listed in parent topic article Widefox; talk 10:09, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
I propose removing the lengthy quotes, which give undue weight to one of the organizations:
Between 1997 and 2001, Brad Willman was known as Omni-Potent, an Internet vigilante who would track pedophiles by spending 16-plus ...
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I removed the claim a paediatrician was persecuted due to mistaken identity here [4]. This was reverted for me giving 'no reason'. Yet as I explained in my edit summary when I first removed the content, a much later follow up calls into question the narrative of mistaken identity [5] so I've reverted this reversion. I won't revert again if my edits are reverted yet again, although hopefully without a misleading edit summary this time.
But the fact remains, there is a major problem with what we were saying. Based on an interview with one of the key police officers involved in the investigation the author of Press Gazette article suggest it was probably simply local youngsters. While they did write the word 'paedo' on the person's home, whether they genuinely were confusing her with a paedophile or were simply playing some dumb game is unclear since they were never identified and "'Stupid kids in Gwent do something stupid.'".
In any case, while the attack was understandably distressing for the victim, probably part of the reason she looked into moving to somewhere "more upmarket" it seems a bit weird to call it persecution. This seems to imply something more than a single incident of paedo being written on a home while the person is out.
From what I can tell, while a lot of sources keep repeating nonsense claims over this incident, no source has actually looked into the details and contested the Press Gazette article.
So at a minimum, I don't think we should mention this anecdote without a clearly description of what we know i.e. the only thing that happened was paedo being written on the person's home, with the motives unknown as the perpetrators were never caught although it's suspect they may have been youths. But IMO it would be simply best to just leave this out, it seems too minor an incident with the details unclear for it to be included. The fact that other sources keep repeating it is not a reason for us to do so when we actually look into the source.
Nil Einne (talk) 03:41, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
Too incidental and newsy. Zezen (talk) 07:21, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
Let us add anti PIE, anti NAMBLA etc, as per title. Zezen (talk) 07:20, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
Does anyone else think that there should a page created called EDP445? And have it be redirect to this page? Since this is the only Wikipedia page that appears to mention him. NintendoTTTEfan2005 (talk) 23:43, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
Habik🥰 Sarka Xxsx 2409:4088:AEBB:7C4:0:0:A449:4E02 (talk) 04:36, 20 March 2024 (UTC)