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Please stop deleting the comments about how Eric Lindros is represented in Quebec. Lindros is a very polarizing figure in Canada and it is important that this be kept in mind in an encyclopedic entry about the man. The people on Wikipedia who delete the entry about Lindros's role as a prototypical White Protestant ghost in the minds of Quebeckers are themselves American and do not fully appreciate this nuanced but important aspect of the Canadian sociopolitical scene. This important point is not inaccurate on its face and does not represent a POV. It is common knowledge in Canada that Lindros is loathed in Quebec - partly for shunning the Nordiques and partly for embodying the tall White Protestant male. Quebeckers' fear and loathing of Lindros is both rational and irrational. Let the point stand. Hanes3777.
I edited my paragraph to meet some of your POV concerns. I hardly, however, characterize my discussion about Lindros as hate speech. It is true that Lindros epitomizes certain negative stereotypes of the White Protestant male as he is portrayed in the consciousness of Quebec. Quebeckers have a certain place for Lindros in their psyche and the bottled up angst towards WASPs in general are displayed in large force whenever Lindros plays in Montreal or Quebec City (before they moved in 1995). This phenonenum is not discussed much in the politically correct Canadian media, although you hear mention of it in the Quebec press. Lindros is both loathed and envied for being a successful WASP who shunned Quebec by refusing to play for the Nordiques. He epitomizes all the distasteful Canadian WASP's who have "denied" Quebec over the years and have prevented it from achieving its cultural destiny.
I attended a Leaf game in Montreal this year. Whenever Lindros touched the puck, the boos were loud, intense and defeaning! Keep in mind, the Lindros-Nordiques fiasco took place over 14 years ago! Lindros represents more than just a whiney draft pick who wanted a better deal. Lindros represents a cleavage that runs deep within the Quebec people. Lindros is
an important symbol of the awkward issue of the English-French divide which both mars and spices up Canadian history. Let those three or four sentences stay in the article. From a Canadian perspective, this may end up being Lindros's most important legacy.
Hanes3777
Please stop calling my entries about Lindros "hate speech". You don't know the meaning of the term if you use it so loosely. I'm simply stating how Lindros is represented within the Quebecois consciousness as a prototypical White Protestant Canadian male who shunned Quebec. I don't badmouth Canadian White Protestant males nor do I badmouth the Quebecois people. You purposely use the term "hate" simply because I am discussing a sensitive issue. That doesn't make it "hate"! If were to discuss Sammy Sosa, and how he is represent in the Latino consciousness within the United States, would that also constitute hatred? Or if I wrote how sometimes George W. Bush is portrayed as the "prototypical arrogant gringo" in Latin America, would that also constitute hate speech? Perhaps my entry lacked some verficiation and was tinged with subjectivity, but it sure didn't constitute hatred. I await an apology. Hanes3777
It is NOT wrong to indicate the Quebec controversy in this article, but it isn't vital to understanding Lindros' life and career outside of Quebec, and should only be mentioned in passing, while a article on, say the Culture of Quebec or the National Question could explore it further in depth. The other thing is that the article should mention a) that Lindros is disliked in Quebec, and b) why, c) where to go to find out more, and that's it. It shouldn't go into a lengthy description of him a stereotype of an evil WASP opressor. Kevlar67 07:57, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
I would just like to add that I never portrayed Lindros as an evil WASP oppressor. He made his decision in 1991 based primarily on his self-interest. However, because of his actions, Lindros represents the negatively stereotypical White Protestant English Canadian in the hearts of Quebeckers. He's a big sturdy alpha male from Ontario who took one look at Quebec and said "No thank you". The implications from his decision abounded. 'Quebec isn't good enough for the prototypical White Protestant Canadian male?' people asked. It really was a proverbial slap in the face. White Protestant domination, which in the minds of most Quebeckers led to their second rate status both economically and politically within Canada, rendered the Nordiques organization too impotent to acquire the best stock that English Canada had to offer. It was a double whammy! Lindros, inadvertedly, but assuredly, occupies a role in the sociopolitical divide that permeates Canada. I have included a source to back up this assertion.
I realize that Lindros's legacy includes more than this issue. He was a hockey player of the Mark Messier style who never quite lived up to his potential, riddled with injuries throughout his career, the source of a lopsided trade, but still a decent hockey man at the end of the day. But the Lindros-Nordiques saga offers an opportunity for a hockey player to transcend the mundane and have his legacy fuse into the fabric of a cultural and political debate. We, as Wikipedia editors, should show a little intellectual courage and present this important aspect of Lindros's legacy. We must ask ourselves: how will Lindros be remembered in 50 years? This is an encyclopedia - not a weekly 'Hockey News' segment. So please stop deleting this important contribution. Hanes3777
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The fact that he is booed should be included - because it's true. It may not be sourced on the internet -yet - but anyone who watched a Montreal / Philly game or Montreal / Rangers game in the last decade can attest to this.
As for the fact that he is booed because he is a white Ontario Protestant stereotype.... I dont think it gets much more POV than that.
Lindros had a bad reputation among Ontario Alliance and OMHA before and during his tenure in the OHL because he was known for running the smallest guy on the ice. Bad form in the old days before the instigator rule - he made quite a few enemies on the ice.... (its also the reason why I remember everyone cheering when Scott Stevens hammered him - the general feeling was "couldnt have happened to a better guy")
Refusal to play for two teams - one of them the Nordiques only added to the animosity.
That much is true... but I have a hard time believing that French-Canadian fans are booing him because he is Protestant and white.
And no - I haven't found a source even for the boos yet.... but Im looking... the CBC archives have to be good for something.
American fans might find it all hard to believe... but hockey gets taken pretty seriously North of the border.. even more so in those days when the rules hadnt been quite as watered down and the honour system was enforced more than it is today.
CanadianPhaedrus 15:44, 11 March 2006 (UTC)CanadianPhaedrus
I meant no offense.... just to me the talk page read as if people were incredulous of hockey fans booing a player over something that seems trivial!
Nor was I implying that American players are dirty - players of all nationalities are taking liberties because of the instigator rule and the most recent no fighting in the last 5 minutes..... dont get me started!!
I know the Northern U.S. knows hockey - its nothing new. My comments were more directed to the Southern U.S. where 5 years ago hockey was nothing more than a strange sport played by damaged people.... the Nashville and Phoenix fans!
Yeah yeah its unsourced... hence the reason for me spending more time than usual looking on CBC... I'll find it somewhere... I love to see Lindros booed!
CanadianPhaedrus 21:16, 11 March 2006 (UTC)CanadianPhaedrus
The current page says that Eric Lindros attended St. Michael's College School in Toronto. Being an alumni who would have been there at the same time (graduated 1993), I am fairly certain this was not the case, though I believe his brother Brett did attend the school for one year. The confusion may have arisen because he did play for the Junior B Buzzers which was affiliated with St. Michael's. To clarify, the school had junior and senior teams which were made up of students attending the school, but also ran the Buzzers team which was not limited to players attending St. Mike's. I have not made any changes to the main page since there is a possibility that I am mistaken, perhaps somebody else attending at the same time could confirm before changes are made. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.112.45.128 (talk) 04:35, 12 April 2007 (UTC).
I don't think he went to St. Mikes or Monarch Park. I'm pretty sure he went to North Toronto CI before he headed down to Detroit to play for Detroit Compuware. I know he went to Glenview SPS for Grade 7 & 8 and then to North Toronto for grade 9 and I believe it was in Grade 10 that he headed down to Detroit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.231.100.208 (talk) 03:34, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Over the years I've read varying reports (possibly an urban legend) that Lindros engaged figure staker Elvis Stojko in a barroom fight and lost (Stojko is reportedly a black belt martial artist), however I've never seen any actual conclusive evidence to support the story. Does anyone know if it's true? Avalyn 03:49, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
The Stojko fight rumours are completely false.
True or not, the idea that a hockey player, especially one with Lindros' size and skills, could lose a fight to a male figure skater... let's just say it doesn't make Number 88 look too good. And if he denies it, it makes him look like a sore loser. And is Stojko denies it, who's gonna believe him? It's one of those stories that too good to not want it to be true.
I think the above post should be removed. How is this relevant in any way? Stojko is a black belt. I don't care how big Lindros is, a hockey player should lose every fight to a black belt. This is a frivolous and insignificant comment. They're friends, this story is not true. Who cares how it might have hypothetically made either of them look, considering that it never happened?74.108.86.3 06:10, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
On ESPN's "SportsCentury" -- a good one, although it could have been expanded to a full hour, such has been Lindros' career -- someone was shown saying, because of the injuries, head cases (figurative and literal/medical) and dashed expectations, "This wasn't the next Gretzky, this wasn't even the first Lindros." Does anyone remember who said it? If anyone knows, I think the line should be included in the entry. If I had remembered, I would've entered it myself, but I don't.
TSN is reporting as of 6:20 EST on July 16th 2006 that Lindros is NOT actually on the Dallas Stars. Secondly, he was drafted first overall by Quebec, and held out on them, causing him to be traded to the Flyers, not what is represented on the main page.
Didn't Eric Lindros assault a woman once early in his career? I remember this but it is not on the main page.74.108.86.3 06:04, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
When will you guys get a picture of Eric? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.141.221.113 (talk • contribs)
Wow did you guys find the worst possible picture of him on purpose? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.34.6.34 (talk) 15:38, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Alright, it's an issue which has attracted a good bit of shouting and rhetoric. Yes, I consider the notion that Lindros' snub of Quebec was a vicious, emasculating, racist attack on the Quebecois nation by the Protestant Anglos a heap of bullshit. (Hell, with my high school French, I'd sure as hell want to find work in a place that spoke the same language I did if I had any choice in the matter, and so would any of you, and somehow I doubt too many monoglot Quebecois would jump at the chance to relocate to Philadelphia, either.) Yes, Lindros holding out on them was the best thing that ever happened to the franchise short of its existence in the first place, and yes, teenage boys who are full of themselves are often impolitic about how they turn down something they don't want. But the fury of the Quebecois was palpable, and the article as it stands doesn't mention any of that at all. Does anyone have a desire to put up a well-sourced, short paragraph on the controversy? Ravenswing 19:11, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Can someone explain how it holds no encyclopedic value when it clearly illustrates the frustration and reaction of the Quebec Nordique fans over Lindros' behaviour? If that isn't good, then why should Bobby Clarke's feud with Lindros be here? TheAxeGrinder 05:47, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
To be honest, I disagree. While I'd prefer not to have obscenities in the article, there does need to be some mention of the mood of the Quebecois fans at the time, and as long as any reference is sourced, that should be all it takes. Ravenswing 23:25, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Exactly. What I had contributed was perfectly fine (although an asterisk may be included in the offending material). The source was also included, so that fills that requirement. TheAxeGrinder 05:47, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Alright, this begs the question. Flibirigit, is this, in fact, a copyvio? I'm about ready to hit up the library myself. Ravenswing 04:56, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Clearly there are several heated opinions on Lindros - are there any objections if I try to insert the appropriate sourced Trivia tidbits into the article itself. The nickname stuff is covered in the info box, and I think the aribtrator's decision can be added there as well. Leafschik1967 (talk) 23:18, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
I altered this section a bit. The quotes in place were not sourced, so I removed them and replaced them. I'm not sure if these are ideal for the site, but I think they work better than completely unreferenced ones.Leafschik1967 (talk) 16:18, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Saving nicknames for future use in prose.
The Big E
The "E Train"
The Next One -Djsasso (talk) 01:23, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
I think his $5 million donation to London Health Sciences should be given its own category, its just mentioned in passing but this was the highest donation ever by a Canadian athlete and in the Top 10 with the likes of Oprah and Bill Gates, Lance Armstrong, etc.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.29.4.43 (talk) 17:37, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
I agree that there should be some mention of the generous amount he have to the hospitals in his hometown-London, Ontario. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.228.134.18 (talk) 19:03, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Please, source this line: "It was estimated he had bled out more than half his body's total blood volume." Given the timeline stated in the article, close to impossible. But regardless, please source anything that could be considered hearsay. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fatshambles (talk • contribs) 06:36, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
((tl:Image requested|ice hockey people|people of Texas)) --EricLindrosNHL (talk) 10:03, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Is it ok if I write an entry about his participation in the WJHC? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.83.84.105 (talk) 17:06, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
"He played parts of three seasons for the Oshawa Generals of the Ontario Hockey League (OHL) from 1990 to 1992. During that time, he scored 180 goals, 200 assists, 380 points and had 437 penalty minutes in 157 games played."
Multiple websites that track hockey stats show these numbers aren't even close. 97 goals, 119 assists and 216 points in 95 games played from 1989-90 to 1991-92. Does anyone know how a discrepancy this massive could occur? http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/l/lindrer01.html http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=3158 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.1.120.200 (talk) 02:19, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
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Why are the Canadian national team stats duplicated across two stat tables? Am I missing something? Yr Enw (talk) 20:29, 2 December 2023 (UTC)