Current version[edit]

The latest version is 2.2.0 from October 2018. Also, the Nintendo switch export is available since 2.2.0. Perhaps since should be changed? HollandMill (talk) 07:37, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Added 2.2.0 to versions. HollandMill (talk) 07:16, 19 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

GameMaker Studio 2 - Official Release[edit]

GameMaker Studio 2 was officially released on March 8th, 2017. Please update the article - mention the new version at least. Now I know you'll ask for "third party sources" or "reliable sources" but I don't understand why I would lie. If you want to confirm, use Google. But it's FAR WORSE to have an outdated page about a product and could be damaging to the publishers. So please have a look and update the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.129.183.145 (talk) 20:01, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"History of updates" section added[edit]

It looks like the talk page here has been back and forth over time about how much information to include on prior versions, especially with the GameMaker/GameMaker: Studio distinction. I introduced a history of updates section after finding it was difficult to learn which version of GM was released when online (since I made some 2002 games, but forgot which version it was in), and gave all the major sources I found as well as my own imgur album documenting the old exes' "About" windows.

It's a little rough in dates and names for the older versions that weren't the final ones, as well as versions after 7.0 (the Overmars history of GM "Some Facts" blog disappeared after YoYo took over, and that held the best updates summary). In general though, it's mostly strong information brought over directly from Mark's words or the files themselves. I'm just not sure how to best cite one page for fifteen items in a table.

Additional help or cleanup on this section would be appreciated! BlinksTale (talk) 02:11, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Should be "presently Studio" not "Studio until 2017"[edit]

In English, "until 2017" implies that the condition (here, having the name Studio) ended. That is not accurate; the software is presently called Studio and will likely continue to be so called in the future. Therefore, this should be changed to "presently Studio." Yes, this will mean changing it if and when it ceases to be called Studio, but the current version needs to be changed every year---and still will be misleading.

The "controversies" section should be deleted[edit]

This was asked a long time ago on this talk page but not answered. First, no other game development tool has such a section, even though a number of them could because there are and have been users unhappy with changes in those pieces of software. Second, none of these controversies are currently relevant; they are not of public interest or notability and do not merit inclusion, except to the extent that any minor bruhaha between a software company and its users merit a separate section on Wikipedia. This is certainly improper content, and it seems vindictive. Why hasn't a mod deleted this section or justified not deleting it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.187.219.102 (talk) 01:17, 23 August 2015‎

I was going to highlight how relevant the logo controversy was to the current design of GM today, but it seems Lordtobi (✉) removed that without comment (so thank you Unsigned for using Talk first). I will try to resolve that first and then get back to you, but in short: controversies that have impacted what GameMaker is today are relevant still to its history seem to me like they should be kept, and be covered in the software's development history. The problem it seems then is whether it should be in a Controversy section (removing it is fine as long as relevant information is kept) and what standards we are using to decide what should be on the page. If anyone more familiar with Wiki's rules/standards can cite what we should or shouldn't keep, that would help here. BlinksTale (talk) 23:18, 11 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
All of the sources were primary. The only standard that matters is whether the content can meet both of our policies on verifiability and neutral point of view, which both require reliable sources. You cannot meet the burden of WP:WEIGHT through the use of primary sources. The content should remain removed until such time as reliable, secondary sources covering the material have been identified and added to the article. --Izno (talk) 12:16, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Changelog[edit]

Hi Izno, thanks for your efforts to clean the GM:S page. While it looks much nicer now, that list of version releases was the only one that existed online, and I had made sure to cite it heavily in creating it. If you had moved it to a "List of GameMaker versions" page, I would not object - but currently that is just valuable information being lost. Did you put that information anywhere else, or did you just not think it was valuable? Wikipedia seemed the best place for it with the significant other lists of information for consoles, games, etc but it seems you disagree. Thank you, BlinksTale (talk) 22:16, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@BlinksTale: All of the content is primary, which means it is incorrectly weighted. There is also the issue that changelogs are not what Wikipedia is for. Just to preempt WP:OTHERSTUFF, I have no idea how the many long change histories we have for other software survive, but it probably has something to do with having reliable sources to back the content up.
If you believe the content is worth saving, there are a number of other wikis and websites for such documentation available. The content is still accessible in the page history in the event that you would like to take that content elsewhere. --Izno (talk) 22:39, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for this. I exported it to a Google Sheet page linked into the main Wiki page. Would it be better if I created a blogpost or something instead of just using Google Sheets? I'm happy to put it on a GM Wiki if that's what you suggest, but I still feel it should at least be a link accessible from the main Wiki page for GM - even if it is not included in the body of the page. BlinksTale (talk) 05:19, 26 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Everything is slightly out of date (and other proposals)[edit]

As of late, the content of the page had been gradually drifting out of sync, which slightly bothers me considering that the page never had much content of general interest aside of supported platforms.

If this seems good, I can assemble a proposed edit. YellowAfterlife (talk) 14:18, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

So I did that yesterday. I think overall a worthy result, the page is now fairly up to date and total number of citations doubled. Things I'm not satisfied with are:

YellowAfterlife (talk) 05:29, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Other fixes you might want to take into account is always putting references behind punctuation (commas, parentheses, etc.), and stating things that are in the past (such as the acquisition) as past events (using past-tense verbs). Let me know if you need anything else. Lordtobi (✉) 07:08, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed references and tenses; Found a single non-primary source for "Instant Play" after all - in a 2008 (?) digital magazine. Not sure if there's anything else that can be replaced right now,

YellowAfterlife (talk) 18:44, 11 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "YoYo Games | Home". 20 July 2011.

Semi-protected edit request on 18 November 2018[edit]

Please change the Initial release from 18 years ago to 19 years ago. 2 days ago was GameMaker's 19th birthday.

Thanks Wolfepedia (talk) 03:25, 18 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 Already done It's calculated automatically any time the page cache is purged (which happens when someone changes the page, or explicitly requests it). See WP:PURGE for more info. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 04:06, 18 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

GameMaker Language may require some sample code[edit]

On various Wikipedias, the programming/scripting language GameMaker Language has received its own page. Should some examples of GML be included on this page as well? Or maybe on a separate page? As shown here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SyntaxHighlight#Supported_languages, there is no syntax highlighting for GML available yet, so someone with expertise might want to add this as well. HollandMill (talk) 09:03, 22 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Earliest Game[edit]

There's a section in the side bar that says "Earliest Game" with "Clean Asia (2007)" listed. This is inaccurate. Clean Asia is neither the earliest game made in GameMaker or GameMaker Studio. In fact, many of the developers of the "Major Games" had games made in GameMaker from earlier than 2007 (eg: David Galindo who created the Cook, Serve, Delicious series has been developing games in GM since 1999). If no definitive listing can be found we should remove this section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.103.233.109 (talk) 20:06, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 15 April 2020[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

GameMaker Studio → GameMaker – "GameMaker Studio 2" and "GameMaker: Studio" are the two latest incarnations of this series of engines, but the article covers the entire series (that is just called "GameMaker"), wherefore the article should be moved to the more generic title. IceWelder [✉] 12:55, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 20:02, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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"Digital rights management" section[edit]

While fixing up missing/butchered words and a date in the reintroduced DRM section and checking sources, I noticed something peculiar - although it might seem like there are 5 sources listed, the entire section is effectively sourced to a two-page forum thread[1]:

So, considering that all of this happened 8 years ago and was based on a dozen user reports total, I think it's safe to say that it no longer holds enough significance to have an entire section dedicated to it. I'll merge this into History section while keeping the Develop Online citation, but it might be worth investigating whether this should be here at all. --YellowAfterlife (talk) 12:05, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Weird GM Studio error......... - Studio - Game Maker Community". web.archive.org. 23 February 2014.
  2. ^ "GameMaker DRM starts vandalising legit copies « Player Attack". web.archive.org. 17 August 2013.

Add "not to be confused with RPG maker"?[edit]

because I got confused Likeanechointheforest (talk) 22:09, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, per WP:NAMB. Assuming a reader would look for "RPG Maker" on Wikipedia, there is no way they would end up here. IceWelder [✉] 22:15, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 9 July 2022[edit]

I want to change some of the dates 2409:4066:8C:3DE9:0:0:159C:30A0 (talk) 09:58, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Made some big changes - looking for feedback![edit]

Hello! Not edited articles before so wanted to go about it pretty carefully - I've made a few big changes to the article as it was missing a lot of important history entries and context, and I feel it focused a lot too much on how the engine was, rather than how it is now - particularly the article's big focus on Drag-n-Drop and limited mention of use as a game engine for larger titles beyond as a teaching tool for new programmers; of which the current article state seems to emphasise.

I've reworded some sections, cleaned up the platform list (as it included mention of some now-deprecated ones as supported), moved some "planned" mentions to current (as they are now included in the engine stable), and removed the "Reception" heading as it referred to reviews for GameMaker: Studio, which is an obsolete engine version, and didn't seem overly relevant anymore.

You can find my working copy here if anyone's happy to give it a read and give feedback on it, as I'd like to copy it over to the current article after gathering some more publicly-accessible sources (as a few of the things that I've added is information from the developers on the engine's "semi-official" Discord server).

If I get the time I might also add some information about the different engine branches and development cycle - being a bimonthly Stable release and weekly Betas, and a biyearly LTS, along with potentially some language syntax examples for GML, as it doesn't have its own page, and to clarify the transition to the 2.3 engine version as it marked some large syntax changes; along with possibly adding some more information about the new GMRT (GameMaker Runtime, creatively).

I might also go ahead and include info about the Ubuntu/Linux IDE beta that's been around for a while now - the page doesn't mention that either.

Oh, and lastly the History section is getting a bit out of hand - it makes sense to divide it up into engine release versions as eras I think.

Orcaaaaa (talk) 04:35, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of games made in the Gamemaker engine category?[edit]

I am not too familiar with editing Wikipedia, but I have visited the website enough to know that there are lists. I believe there could be a benefit to making a category with a list of games made in Gamemaker. Toptier5stars (talk) 16:02, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There already is Category:GameMaker Studio games; I requested it to be renamed to match the current title. IceWelder [✉] 16:14, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh; I didn't see that before. Thank you for letting me know. Toptier5stars (talk) 16:16, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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