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"He is also an occasional off spin bowler who appears to be able to take key wickets."
7 wickets in Test matches is hardly worth a mention. 203.3.197.249 04:45, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
Have to agree with Sam, his bowling is not really worth a mention because he tends to take a hiding almost every time he bowls. Nice performance graph - thanks to whoever put that there! BoltonD 12:40, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
Certainly not a bowler at Test level (except in his own mind), but at First Class OD level he has been used to some effect, at least in the initial part of his career. The Cricinfo profile (http://content-rsa.cricinfo.com/southafrica/content/player/47270.html) shows 47 wickets at 38, but I think it was a lot better in his first couple of seasons... don't know if it helps contributes to this article at all though... 198.54.202.242 (talk) 21:34, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
I disagree, the fact that he hae taken 7 test wickets adds to his calibre as a player! Even though he does go for runs, we cannot take away the fact that he has taken 7 wickets. Give Graeme the credit he deserves!
I feel that this article is lacking a little in a full coverage of Smith's career. Perhaps it would be better to further outline his failings as well as his triumphs - a good example might be Ricky Ponting's entry where the last Ashes series was analysed. Obviously both are great players and their highlights should take precedence but their fallibilities are also historically important.
I have removed the following statement from the article:
He was also accused by Michael Vaughan of calling him 'queer' and the fact that Smith acted as a witness during Vaughan's case with referee Clive Lloyd (Vaughan was fined his entire match-fee)." I am not sure what this is referring to - it accuses Smith of calling Vaughan a queer, should it also say ill-will was generated by Smith giving evidence against Vaughan in his hearing with the match referee for (insert offence here).
I've also messed around with the article a bit - I feel it is a pretty good article but there are still some passages where it is obviously written from the viewpoint of a fan. Furthermore, statements such as "Smith and the Australian players have a mutual respect for each other" are a little ambiguous, as I'm pretty sure that there would be quite a few players (and even more fans) on both sides of the Indian Ocean who have little love for Smith and Ponting respectively.
Anyway, thoughts etc? Crx2gen 13:32, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Hello. I also think the article is up to standard. I will submit for GA just to see how it goes. If you think that that is a mistake then by all means withdraw it. Thanks. 02blythed (talk) 11:13, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
'Smith has earned a reputation as a hard-edged cricketer and assertive leader, a combination which is often interpreted by his critics as arrogance.[citation needed]'
The above quote is unsourced. I have had a quick look for RS but cannot find one. If you someone does can they please add it. I will look further but if cannot find one will delete statement. 02blythed (talk) 12:08, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
This article failed good article nomination. This is how the article, as of April 15, 2008, compares against the six good article criteria:
The article is a long way from GA, in my opinion. There are problems with MOS, which I've to some extent tried to fix, thoroughness, the standard of writing, and more citations are needed. There's a lot of work to do.
When these issues are addressed, the article can be renominated. If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it have it reassessed. Thank you for your work so far.
It's clear that a good amount of work has gone into the article, however, I feel I cannot pass it and list it as a GA until the following issues have been resolved (ie, corrected for explained):
Hello. Thanks for doing the GA review. I have dealt with your queries.
In the lead I have copied and pasted from career section about his highest score whenm he toured England in 2003. I hope this is ok as I thought how i could do it better but I couldn't. If not what you wanted by all means change it if you have a better idea.
With combining sections. I didn't know what to call them and make it sound right. If i was honest I did not like the idea of combining the early/domestic and internatioanl sections together as for one it would be easier for the readers to get the section they wanted and also it would make the section to big and the way I did it i think looks better. sorry.
For don bradman record added fact he was australain
For kevin piterson took away kevin to leave his surname as suggested.
Removed statement about disputed catch as if everytime a cricketer not just graeme smith was involved in something like this there would be loads of such statements and if kept this ( which i did not add by the way) i woudl have to add every such instance which would be hard to get sources and also a waste of time as the readers would get minimal info from such statements.
finally about the succession boxes. I have decided to leave them as I do not know fully how to do it. Also if there are to many succession boxes it may cause the article to look a mess.
Thanks agaion for reviewing the article. I hope these changes mena it can now be a GA. 02blythed (talk) 13:04, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
For the future, I wouldn't be looking at getting to an FA just yet because Smith's career is still ongoing, thereby making his article slightly unstable. Well, that's my personal preference anyway. Also, a background on the subject wouldn't go amiss either, this is a biography of Graeme Smith after all, not just an overview on his career. A few more free images wouldn't go amiss either although for a GA a picture of the subject himself is all that can be asked. ;-).
Anyway, sorry to be a pain but I'm putting this article on hold until my issues have been responded to - drop me a line when you've finished! ;-) --Phill talk Edits Review this GA review! 09:45, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
why is smith's rajasthan royals stint,included in his international career paragraph? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shanbhag.rohan (talk • contribs) 04:43, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
I feel the article fails to cover his entire career in depth. Looks to be just a bunch of stats that mainly mention his best performances.
If nothing has been addressed by Friday, I will remove the list. Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 06:24, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
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