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This article will be increased. The Cossacks as well. But of course in Cossacks could be a short summarise of their history.User:Yeti 20:34, 24 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Maybe this page should also talk about the importance of Cossacks to Ukrainian national identity. Along with their language, their historical memory of the relative self-rule of the Cossacks is an important component of their national construction. So in addition to the as yet unwritten section on Cossacks in Russia today, we should definitely talk about Ukraine. --Iceager 02:39, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)
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===Origin myths=== The Cossacks allegedly began as a non-exclusive ethnic group which grew out of various Hun and Turko-Mongol equestrian pastoralists. From them derives the Kazakh term Cossack meaning "wanderer/adventurer" Though the Kazakhs mostly adopted Islam, Orthodox Christianity soon became the representative religion of the the Cossack "ethnicity". Similarly Slavic replaced Turkic as the necessary communication base. In legend, outlaws from all across Europe made their way to the steppes of the Ukraine to enjoy the freedom of cossack life.
Truth mixed with guesswork. Mikkalai 02:15, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Shouldn't this be merged and redirected into Cossack? - Arthur George Carrick 20:34, 24 Feb 2004 (UTC)
If there's a lot of shuffling to do, it may be easier to merge, mix, and then extract the history article while leaving behind a summary of it. —Michael Z. 2005-12-6 02:06 Z
I don't think it should be merged. It was obviously split so that the main Cossack article wouldn't be oversized and bloated. Add sources and let it be.--KrossTalk 04:31, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
I don't think that merge is needed, just more expantion. Even ifwe merge them now, we would had to split them again eventually.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 18:01, 19 February 2006 (UTC) Cazacii- sunt tyragetii din antichitate, din marea familie a traco-getilor, care traiau pe teritoriul Daciei, pana in nordul Marii Negre. Tyragetii, adica getii de pe Tiras=Nistru . Ei locuiau intre Nistru si Don . Sunt cunoscuti in evul mediu, in vremea voievodatelor si al Moldovei, ca si cazacii- moldoveni, prieteni si ajutor al lui Stefan cel Mare si despre care , Sobieski, regele Poloniei, spunea, in urma unui razboi cu Stefan cel Mare: nu ma lupt cu cazacii, pentruca sunt moldoveni. Asta este originea lor, sunt getii din nordul Marii negre, nume generic de moldoveni, dar care traind aproape de slavi, limba lor s-a slavizat. Au fost vecnic independenti, nu se socotesc rusi, slavi, tatari sau alte etnii. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.80.17.0 (talk) 13:08, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Is this a joke? No sources, no bibliography, apears to be a cut and paste from an article. -- Kuban kazak 17:55, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
This article should not be merged with History of Cossacks, because History of Cossacks puts very little emphasis on Ukrainian Cossacks, who are really the most popular and most refferred to as "cossacks".
Being the son of a Kuban Cossack that fought with Vlasov during the war I heard a different side to the story. Unfortunately most of the members are gone now including a famous writer of Cossack history in Windsor, Ontario. We need more participation from the inheritors of the Cossack life to fill in the gaps that are missing. alexchem- sept 21, 2006
Who is Wasili Glaskow? Does he work at any university or academic institution? Is he a professional historian. You can find only one pocketbook written by him on the Amazon.com. His "conclusions" about the origins of Cossacks sounds like fiction of Russian and Ukrainian nationalists. Can anybody tell me who is this scholar? --133.41.4.46 19:10, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
1)I have only one account. No relation to Oleksiy or whatever. Do not offense.
2) Library of Congress has many non-academic books. Its not an arguement. I just want to know is Wasili Glaskow an academic scholar or not? Did he have any other publications (even in Russian), presentations and so on.
3) Never heard about "Robert Speller & Sons, a reputable publishing house". Do you have any idea where I can get the information about it.
4)"Some authors" tells nothing. It is beter to call the thing by proper name: "non-mainstream author".
5)I think the best way is to present theories about the Cossacks' origins by dividing them into two passeges: the mainstream (traditional Soviet and Western) and non-mainstream (stuff like "all steppe people were Cossacks' ancectors" etc.).
Any suggestions? 133.41.4.46 18:57, 21 September 2006 (UTC)--Alex Kov 04:06, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Rather than writing an entirely new note, I (Cgingold) will simply re-post the comments on this subject from Talk:Cossack:
As a Jew (by birth rather than religion, of which I have none) I was astounded to see so little (only one fleeting reference) about the Cossack brutality toward Jews. I have a great deal of respect for the democratic aspects of Cossack society, but their role, under various regimes, in suppressing the democratic aspirations of other groups (including Jews) should have been described in more detail. I might add that, in the past, one of the most insulting things that a Jew could say about a person would be to call him a Cossack. Too Old 22:06, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
It seems that most of the "Early History" section was written by one author and one or two references. I have put citation tags for at least a month on many paragraphs, and none have been added. I tried to find some, but could not, probably because the citations are the only sources that state the given information. If there are no objections, I will re-write the early sections, with more in-line citations. Thanks, Horlo (talk) 09:29, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Kozaki were and are Slavs. Stop with occultism. The term derives from the "goat-ers". Why are "historians" and "Linguists" always stealing slavic elements, cultural, mythological characters and proclaiming them as "non slavic"? Even Perun was proclaimed as "non Slavic"
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@Trevoorijk: is attempting to add information on the gothic background of the cossacks. He is, I believe, attempting to use "Longworth, Philip (1970). The Cossacks. Holt, Reinhart, and Winston. ISBN 978-0030818554." as his reference. I opened this section so we could discuss it here.---- Work permit (talk) 17:18, 3 September 2019 (UTC)