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The recent move, although notified on Talk:Korean language was not supported by GB ngram (ignoring Jeju/Cheju issue). In ictu oculi (talk) 12:01, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
Can this language be written completely in Korean letters? 86.182.236.120 (talk) 02:47, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
This is the rewrite.
For Romanization, Yang C., Yang S., and O'Grady use a version of the Revised Romanization of Korean with allophones unmarked, so that e.g. Korean 빗자루 is transcribed bisjalu and not bitjaru. I used the normal version of RR, i.e. the version that takes into account allophony, per the Manual of Style. This may need to be changed. Normally in linguistics you use Yale, but the only English source on the language doesn't, so...
Most sources are Korean, specifically academic papers by South Korean dialectologists, reflecting the actual state of the scholarship on Jeju. Yang C., Yang S., and O’Grady 2019 cite only about nine English-language sources specific to Jeju, while also citing eighty-nine Korean sources, all focusing on Jeju. Could have missed a few either way, but the point stands. I decided to divide the sources between languages because I thought most readers would benefit from having a section for English-only sources without having to wade through paper after paper they will never understand. The sources cited are almost all either sources referenced by Yang C., Yang S., and O'Grady (whose monograph also informs the organization of the grammar sections, so it's probably the single biggest influence on the article), or sources referenced by the provincial government reports.--Karaeng Matoaya (talk) 12:23, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
@Coastaline and Ogress:
Per a 2016 South Korean government report, Jeju Island currently has one of the weakest regional feelings in the entire country (p. 135). A Jeju identity appears to be weaker than a Chungcheong identity, and is certainly far, far weaker than either a feeling of Gyeongsang-ness or Jeolla-ness. Per the same report, a Jeju identity was stronger in the 1980s (when there would have been many native speakers of Jeju), but even then it was about the same as the notion of a Jeolla identity, who are never counted as a separate ethnic group.
The existence of a Jeju people article, in which (as mentioned in the issues box above) "the central claim of a distinct Jeju people is not substantiated" (and certainly would not be agreed upon by most people currently in Jeju Island), shouldn't mean that the article should link to it as the sole "ethnicity" of the Jeju language. I'm willing to compromise and have either "Jeju people (Koreans of Jeju Island)" or "Koreans of Jeju Island (Jeju people)," but I don't agree that Jeju people should be the only thing there.--Karaeng Matoaya (talk) 05:33, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
In the first paragraph: "much of the language has been altered due to the prevalence of Old Korean." Which language? What is "the prevalence of Old Korean"? What does "prevalence" mean here? Prevalent in general modern Korean or in Jeju? Old Korean is an ancient stage, ancestral to both Jeju and general modern Korean, so Old Korean is prevalent, in a sense, in both Jeju and general modern Korean. Maybe "prevalence" is not the right word for what is intended in this sentence. Linguistatlunch (talk) 20:03, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Not sure why, but in the section "Pre-final suffixes", the glossed example 이신느안티크냐? ("Is this shoe [too] big for you [right now]?") is broken. It shows "?'"`UNIQ--ref-000000F7-QINU`"" in the romanization. Seems to render fine in preview mode, so not sure what's up there. — — Io Katai Talk 14:22, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
Just wanted to say I was really impressed by the article. Contributors really did/are doing a great service. toobigtokale (talk) 06:49, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
Currently, the only autonym in the lead section prose is "제줏말" (Jejun-mal). The infobox gives this name and also "제주말" (Jeju-mal). Are they equivalent in Jeju itself? Or maybe one of them is preferable? (Note that I'm asking about the name in Jeju itself, and not in Korean.)
Wikipedias in other languages and the Incubator Wikipedia in Jeju have "제주말" (Jeju-mal), but this is not a reliable source by itself.
What name does the written literature in Jeju itself use? Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 06:10, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
Upon searching for this language, I didn't find any information except for some forums referring to it as the "Old Jeju language." Therefore, it is better to merge and redirect it there. ❯❯❯ Chunky aka Al Kashmiri (✍️) 07:10, 21 September 2023 (UTC)