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His military insignia looks Bajoran (Star Trek) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.171.177.74 (talk) 09:21, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
Why include an article on such a profoundly stupid topic? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.32.204.67 (talk) 20:37, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
Due to the fundamental basis on which this situation is built, the Everett-Wheeler "many worlds" interpretation, it would stand to reason that an infinite number of John Titors could be sent to an infinite number of pasts and of course an infinite number of worlds containing no John Titors, as well as an infinite number of worlds containing a John Litor... and so forth, may exist. Given this conclusion, problems of consistency could be explained within the logical confines of the story by the possibility that more than one John Titor have concurrently visited this instance of the world.
68.98.122.107 (talk) 23:57, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Everyone, I believe this article needs some fresh information, there are a few documentaries on the Identity of who was posting as John Titor and I believe they might be valuable to add, —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nerd4U (talk • contribs) 19:27, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
I have a degree in creative writing and his story has a very creative writing feel to it. He uses minute details (like the 5100 IBM) to give the story a sense of authority, but if he was really a time traveller that was concerned with our future he would have had a deeper sense of urgency in the tone of his messages, and would have included far more precise details. Instead the he writes with a sort of smugness about how everything is going to hell and back and in a very fortune cookie kind of way. Ipunchouthorses (talk) 18:34, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
The Doomsday Prophecy is starting to come true. John Titor.......................................................Real Life
2004 - Athens Olympics canceled due to Mad Cow Disease.......2020 - Tokyo Olympics Canceled due to Corona Virus 11 years later WW3 in 2015...................................11 years later WW3 in 2031? 2600:1700:9EF0:56E0:4458:FB60:9432:AD92 (talk) 16:47, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
I think a lot of the criticism of this article and the article itself are both missing the point. At this point the single most important aspect of the John Titor story is not the content of what Titor said or its accuracy, it's the impact it had on culture. Each month, John Titor related content increases. More people become more interested in it - both those who believe and those who don't including teams of people leveraging social networking tools to create a public record of their attempts at identifying who posted as Titor and why. I lack the time and interest to approach adding or referencing the monumental data on the cultural impact of Titor (the generic entertainment value of the Titor story to the influence this story has had on later internet events of this nature) but, I'd really like to encourage those of you who do actively participate in updating this article to consider including this much more valid and interesting aspect of the topic. 24.188.213.121 (talk) 07:50, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
I honestly don't think the brain-addled teenagers on 4chan's paranormal board really qualify as "culture."173.61.213.87 (talk) 08:36, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
Sadly, it isn't just 4chan's /x/ board, it's an international phenomenon, as demonstrated by its use in the Japanese production of Stein's Gate[1], and Lawrence Krauss's using the phrase "A John Titor Style Universe", suggests it has indeed become a cultural reference, even in scientific circles...
...Granted, I am of the opinion that no article should ever be removed from Wikipedia based on "lack of relevance". The search engine is sophisticated enough that low-priority articles aren't going to signifigantly impact it, and if we're only going to retain "relevant" articles, then we're no better than Encyclopedia Britannica. Leave the pick-and-choose style of information gathering to those guys. On Wikiepdia, you should be able to find anything and everything - which is, specifically, what sets it so far above and beyond the classical encyclopedia design. 99.42.81.32 (talk) 13:43, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
The supercomputer units are of the Trilogy model. Also,
It's conjecture that Titor died within the 2001 Witness Event, with the unidentified male in the adjacent tower. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.241.240.183 (talk) 22:35, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
No mention of the 1997 chatroom. Or the Warner Bros interest in making a film. Loads of missing facts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.53.32.194 (talk) 21:57, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
-- Problem with those facts would be the lack of verifiable sources backing them. If you happen to have them you can try expanding the article and using the verifiable sources as reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.103.70.147 (talk) 17:26, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
"John Titor is the name used on several bulletin boards during 2000 and 2001 by a poster"
The article begins with what is likely an unintentionally false statement. "John Titor" is the name that the s/he used on but one BBS - the Art Bell "Post-2-Post" (P2P) (www.artbell.com now defunct) forum starting in January of 2001 until March of 2001. There is no evidence that the poster, as John Titor, ever used that name on any other site. S/he did use "TimeTravel_0" on www.timetravelinstitute.com starting on 2-NOV-2000 and had previously used the same moniker on a UK IRC site once during October of 2000 (see http://www.anomalies.net/object/titorirc.html for a copy of the IRC log submited by Yariesa who also participated in the IRC discussion). Again, there is no evidence that John Titor/TimeTravel_0 posted on any site other than P2P and TTI. S/he didn't post on "several" BBS sites. The mistake here is taking as true the assertion of the author "John Titor" in a post that s/he had posted on several sites when the evidence indicates otherwise.
Another problem is the use of the "John Titor" logo. Though it has been passed all over the Internet it is, in fact, copyrighted by the John Titor Foundation. It may be a quibbling notation but it is technically correct. (see US Copyright Office for TXu001126005 / 2003-10-27). The logo is contained in the copyrighted book.)
The article leaves out most of "the problems" with the story. Problems such as the entertainment attorney Larry Haber handling the account as general manager for the John Titor Foundation and the fact that the story originated in Celebration, FL where Haber then lived and that the story first appeared on www.timetravelinstitute.com (aka "TTI") at a time when the owner of TTI was also the SysOp and SysAdmin of Celebration's community BBS (www.34747.com - now defunct)TTI had a hotlink to www.34747.com on a deep back page of its site. The Celebration BBS had a hotlink on its homepage to the TTI site. The owner of TTI was not involved in this - the notation is simply pointing out a link between Celebration, FL and TTI. What the article misses entirely is that the John Titor Saga was nothing more than a largely unknown topic popular on but two BBS forums prior to Art Bell's closing down P2P in June of 2001 (TTI & P2P). Thereafter it remained a relatively unknown and fading topic except on TTI and Anomalies.net (which took over the Titor thread "I Am From 2036" from P2P) until the summer of 2003. In August of 2003 the John Titor Foundation (JTF), a Florida Limited Liability Company, during a single night, made thousands of spam posts all over the Internet using the moniker "JTFan" to pump and promote sales of the John Titor book "John Titor: A Time Traveler's Tale". Had it not been for the JTF spam posts the topic would have remained nothing more than a fading blip on TTI and Anomalies.net.
My comments are obviously not appropriate for inclusion in the article as they are much too POV; that I know and understand. I've been a participant in this "episode" since the day it started and my comments and criticism are well known by followers of the meme. But in all fairness to the general community that might want to discover information about this Internet meme, the article does not do justice to the topic.
DarbyII (Admin, Anomalies.net) Anomaliesnet (talk) 05:44, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
John Titor made it very clear that there is no way of telling if the future events that occurred in _his_ timeline will occur in _our_ timeline. Titor made it clear that he was not making predictions, but merely stating what occurred in _his_ timeline. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.183.149.55 (talk) 15:28, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/26132/?ref=rss
Astronomers Find First Evidence of Other Universes
Above is not the reference, below are the science papers from arXiv.org that are:
http://arxiv.org/abs/1012.1995
First Observational Tests of Eternal Inflation
Stephen M. Feeney (UCL), Matthew C. Johnson (Perimeter Institute, Daniel J. Mortlock (Imperial College London), Hiranya V. Peiris (UCL) last revised 12, Jul 2011 (this version, v3) pages 1-5
http://arxiv.org/abs/1011.3706
Concentric circles in WMAP data may provide evidence of violent pre-Big-Bang activity
V.G. Gurzadyan, R. Penrose Submitted on 16 Nov 2010
pages 1-8
Thank you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JJBeat (talk • contribs) 23:09, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
In the online story, Titor stated that a part of his mission was to prevent the coming world war by changing history. Yet during an IRC chat in October 2000, a month before he began posting, Titor was asked if the future could be changed from his prediction, and answered "It's too late. I just wish things didn't have to happen the way they will."
This argument is weak.
A much better example of this inconsistency is that if the multiverse theory is true (which Titor said it was) then changing history is by default impossible because it would change nothing in his timeline, and if there are a practically infinite number of universes, any stoppable tragedy would already happen on 10^100000000000000000 other universes in the multiverse and are already happening a trillion times per second as we speak. WW2 and mass death is happening in another worldline right this second!
You can't change history on all of them, so what exactly is the point?
Either way, the existing paragraph in the article is weak because it's not a contradiction if someone's intent to change history but later realize it's too late.--50.99.218.140 (talk) 19:15, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
Even Wikipedia redirects from his real name, John Rick Haber. Yeah, I know about biographies of living persons; that policy doesn't forbid naming hoaxers, to my knowledge. Thedoorhinge (talk) 11:22, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
What ever came of this video, of some dude claiming he is John Titor, is calling Coast to Coast, and has documents and evidence proving beyond any doubt that he is who he says he is and wants to apologize for the hoax?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvkmPiK6Pmw
Seems legit. But that was back in 2011. I'm not in the US, so I have no idea if he ever did contact the media about it. Can someone please follow up on this? The identity of John Titor is an extremely relevant element missing from this article; in fact I would safely say his identity is the most important piece of information, and it is missing from this article. BaSH PR0MPT (talk) 16:46, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
An anon, recently, has been adding a trademark. We cannot use it without a third-party secondary source commenting on it, although it might very well be relevant. My apologies if this is mentioned in the archives. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 13:40, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
I just wanted to state that by traveling into this alternate reality he may have stopped his own predictions. Or even by stating them out to people enough people, or the right people read it and this alone stopped his predictions, could even be the meaning behind the prediction. At least we can't be sure that it was meant to be that way and that is why i find it a bit "so-so" to call it failured. Only in this reality the war didnt happened, and only in this reality he was and changed things (leaving out the part that he is or not from the future). 80.153.142.71 (talk) 18:45, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
I'm kind of suprised that this isn't in the article yet, but how come there isn't any mention that John Titor was avant-garde work by Joseph Matheny? See, a podcast talking about it with him, his LinkedIn profile, and his website. --Darkstar949 (talk) 17:30, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
In the Foundation series you will find an analysis outlining eight books written byIssac Asmiov.
With John Titor, we have a "internet story" told on chat boards by a person, or persons and then discussed on specialty venues including Coast to Coast AM and other venues. We don't know if Titor is a person or many people.
John Titor is the name used on several bulletin boards, by a person or persons, during 2000 and 2001 claiming to be a time traveler from 2036 In these posts, the fictional, Titor made numerous predictions about events in the near future, a number of them vague and some quite specific. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.250.168.158 (talk) 16:25, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
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Probably an elaborate hoax? Of course it was. I'm going to edit out that ridiculous probably. aldiboronti (talk) 09:15, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
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John Titor John Titor is just a pseudonym, we never know his real name — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.232.94.113 (talk) 06:53, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
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Would the private investigator's findings and 2009 investigation that was mentioned be sufficient for such a tag? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blix1ms0ns (talk • contribs) 17:21, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
In the lead, it says the brother's name (the computer scientist) is John Haber. In the article body, it says the brother's name is Morey Haber. Looking at the source, it says his name is "John Rick Haber". Doing a search for Morey Haber, I do see references to him being John Titor. Can someone clarify if Morey Haber is John Haber? If it's a nickname, then please provide some indication. Morphh (talk) 02:54, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
See Talk:IBM 5100#List of trivia Andy Dingley (talk) 09:17, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
Under the Predictions section, it states the following:
"(...) he joined the Fighting Diamondbacks, a shotgun infantry unit in Florida (...)" What does this mean, exactly? Is it a "shotgun" infantry unit in the same sense as a shotgun wedding or an infantry unit that specializes in shotguns. If it is the former, a term close to something like "impromptu" would probably be a better choice of words.
ShakurasEnder (talk) 14:52, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
I added a reference to the 2018 ALTERNATE BEGINNING novel. It was written by J.D. Smith and B.C. Synder
I don't know how to add the Amazon product link where I found the novel as a reference or if that should be added
https://www.amazon.com/ALTERNATE-BEGINNING-J-D-SMITH-ebook/dp/B07HDHF4XF/ref=sr_1_2?crid=QNDAUU0B2QTE&dchild=1&keywords=alternate+beginning&qid=1593812538&sprefix=alternate+be%2Caps%2C203&sr=8-2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:EC50:2A80:65FA:655:C365:4BDB (talk) 21:55, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
The article currently notes the the supposed "Time Machine" was originally located "in the back of a 1966 Chevrolet Corvette convertible."
This is factually incorrect.
Though the reference link noted with this information may have at one time stated that the vehicle in question was a 1966 Chevrolet Corvette, the reference would be incorrect. Also the reference link currently notes "installed in a 1967 Corvette no less."
The original online posts specify the car as a "1967 Chevrolet". The photographs of the "Time Machine" commonly associated with the posts depict the interior of a second-generation Chevrolet Corvette convertible (which was produced from 1963 to 1967.)
I suggest changing the article to reflect this information. How much or how little detail should be included, I leave up to those with more knowledge of Wikipedia preferences and conventions.
This is nitpicking over a minor point, but several online references discussing the John Titor story list incorrect information about the vehicle described in the original posts, and I believe the Wikipedia article should seek to be as accurate as possible. 64.222.130.62 (talk) 19:14, 5 November 2022 (UTC)