This article is written in American English, which has its own spelling conventions (color, defense, traveled) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus. |
This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Labor camp article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Kwertii: I hope you understand my deletion of a large piece or yours. As it stood, it belonged to the extermination camp article. I am going to detail the system of Nazi labor camps. I will not forget to mention high death rate (or you will surely add after me). Mikkalai 02:27, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
i deleted a claim about israel labor camps, which was based on a single source: [1]. this source doesn't seem too credible. given the incredible scrutiny devoted to everything israel-related, if these events really occurred, there is certainly a more credible source out there; if not, they shouldn't be mentioned. Benwing 00:25, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
I am a bit puzzled by this sentence. The link between racial segregation and the length of the sentence is unclear.
Also, I don't think the statement is accurate - there are numerous examples of Europeans (particularly the crews of enemy privateers) who were informally sentenced to lifetime servitude in Caribbean labor camps after being captured preying on Spanish shipping. I grant that lifetime servitude tended not to be that long given the death rate, but the point remains.
Can anyone shed some light on the meaning of the sentence? If not, I'll edit it in a few days and we'll see what people think of that version instead. Jeendan 21:44, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
I removed the following section:
This is a non-standard interpretation of what constitutes a "labor camp" and an interpretation that seems to be original to the editor that wrote it rather than to the sources it references or to any other published sources that I know of. More broadly, by this definition, any form of historical slavery that involved large numbers of slaves engaging in hard physical labor with limitations on movement could be interpreted as a "labor camp". The definition of "labor camp" really should be limited to various forms of mass penal servitude that have elements of slavery, as is the commonly understood definition of this phenomenon. Iamcuriousblue (talk) 06:52, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
References
How does this differ to most prisons around the world where inmates perform work? This hardly seems anything close to forced labour camps that the rest of this article is about... Mdwh (talk) 00:29, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Should both words in "labor camp" really be capitalized?--Sus scrofa (talk) 15:46, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
I have added a section about forced labor camps in the communist Czechoslovakia. I can't find a good source for this in English. Perhaps someone else could help? Nazgul02 (talk) 20:53, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
I suggest this article is moved to forced labor camp (currently a redirect to this article). Urban XII (talk) 17:17, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
-Can't figure out how to do it, but footnote 9 (the reference) has a dead link, http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-prison-industry-in-the-united-states-big-business-or-a-new-form-of-slavery/8289 works, replace it with that please- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.206.41.244 (talk) 06:55, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 2 external links on Labor camp. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template ((source check))
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 12:48, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
In the beginning of the article, I noticed a paragraph specifically highlighting the use of political prisoners. I'm just wondering what is the point? If the goal is to point out that besides criminals, the governments also isolate dangerous opponents and critics from the public, let's do that. Political opponents, ethnic minorities, investigative journalists, they all get similar treatment because they are basically “undesirables” for the regime in charge. AzzAzeL-US (talk) 09:36, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
There are other meanings to "work" and "camp". There are some summer camps, just like in the scouts, where the youth are educated to help and work, mostly in agriculture. There's also Camp Avoda, with the name that is Hebrew for work
הראש (talk) 10:17, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
My preliminary impression of the article was that it lacked depth and felt in-cohesive. Furthermore, the majority of the article felt incomplete and only offered links to more specific detailed articles.
The lead section did not flow very smoothly, and it did not provide a brief description of the article's major sections. It included information that was not present in later sections, specifically Convention no. 105 of the United Nations International Labour Organization. It also included very general sentences without providing an argument; specifically how labor camps have similar aspects to slavery and prisons. The last part of the lead section alluded to the use of labor camps in the twentieth century, but it did not go into further detail in the actual section.
The content of the article neglected to provide a full-picture of what labor camps entail. There are aspects of the article that are missing, such as a more detailed history of the precursors. It currently has 2 sentences in the Precursors section that ends around the time period of pre-Revolutionary France. It then jumps into the next section of Labor Camps in the 20th century, but there is no smooth transition nor is there a description for the various countries listed. There are only hyperlinks provided. I recommend to add a few sentences that summarize the information provided in the specific hyperlinks to make the article more informative. It then jumps into the Labor Camps of the 21st Century, but only provides 3 sections on China, North Korea, and the United States. There is very limited information in these subsections, and the section on North Korea is duplicated in both the 20th and 21st Century sections.
There are only images relating to labor camps used by Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union, which can indicate an overrepresentation of European labor camp history.
In checking the Talk page, there are discussions of grammar and removal of sections for being too broad and therefore inapplicable in the article. Several contributors removed sentences for being inaccurate or using claims based on a single source.
My overall impressions of the article is that it requires a lot of work to become more substantial and therefore beneficial to the audience. As it stands, the information is disorganized and limited in nature. The redirection of hyperlinks is useful, but it could be greatly improved by creating more in-depth content summaries. Etcetera2001 (talk) 17:34, 31 August 2023 (UTC)