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https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-says-it-destroys-russian-spy-plane-airborne-command-post-2024-01-15/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by - - - (talk • contribs) 22:17, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
It would be great if someone could find how many of each aircraft listed here are active in the Russian air-force. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexkvaskov (talk • contribs) 22:13, 20 November 2011 (UTC) == List in incomplete. For example, I'm pretty certain the Russian Air Force still operates some An-12 and a few An-22s. I did a quick look for these two type on Airliners net and there are 2013 pictures for both type flying as Russian Air Force... Hudicourt (talk) 02:32, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
Hello,There is a Reason Why I Like The Older Picture Because The Current Photo That Unknown Number Was Vandilisme.You Can Change The Imformation Of The Russian Air Forces But The Photos are Can't Change And It's Very Nice Pictures.Kornet GSR (talk) 14:42, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
I will stop but Please Don't Change The Fighter Aircraft Photo.But other Aircraft Is only Can.OkKornet GSR (talk) 14:37, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
Kornet GSR Was Right And C.Fred,The Mikoyan MIG-29,Sukhoi Su-27 And Sukhoi Su-35 Were not Clear and Worse Picture.The Picture That You Take Was a Non Relible Sorces.OK.175.141.22.214 (talk) 12:13, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
1 of the modern and rare aircrafts that have not been already produced in the Soviet Union crashed as many maybe know (I don't know if in US media this is reported like in European or German Media), however the Mi-28 crashed during a 2-week "War Games" in Russia. The pilot was not a nobody, it was the 45 year old Lieutenant Colonel Igor Butenko who had good chances to become a General on a higher age. However, not the best demonstration of power for Putin, the Russian self-produced Helicopter crashes on War Games, does not help to increase fear of this "new type" if it crashes in a military parade... Kilon22 (talk) 13:37, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
No, per WP:SYNTH and WP:NOTNEWS - Keeping an up-to-date inventory is out of scope. Scr★pIronIV 18:20, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
Wondering if someone has a more up to date document or source on RuAF aircraft numbers. The Reference No 4 that is used currently is the only working link i found that has almost complete numbers. The previous links used that had almost complete numbers no longer work including the registered ones and i do remember that in the past there was one that did work. Hence not too long ago i removed non-working link and replaced with current one.
maybe someone has a registered link or new source? cheers Hammer5000 (talk) 16:52, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
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If a reference is written, even if it is debatable, it would be logical for the figures in the table to be according to the references, or at least to approximate
For example: reference 24 http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2326878.html Numbers of soviet fighters in december 2016 (in gross numbers): VVS: 160 Су-27, 120 МиГ-29, 90 МиГ-31 Total including Navy: 180 Су-27, 20 Су-33, 120 МиГ-29, 120 МиГ-31 Of course the number of Su-27 is higher than reality but even this is much better that the number in the table The number of MiG-31 is absolutely correct in december 2016, arround 90 for VVS and less than 30 in the navy. In 2017 there are a new squadorn in Vladivostok so the number is 102 and 28=130
Then , if the reference says about 90+30 , why the numbers on table are different?
The truth is that this page is very poor, if someone does not know aviation, not only is not informed correctly, but ends up more uninformed than before
In general, everything related to Russian aviation in wikipedia in English is painful.
It only indicates that those who wrote it have a deep ignorance of Russia and everything Russian --AMCXXL (talk) 16:50, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
The prototypes and other airplanes built in the program of development of each project is operated by manufacturer , not by the Air Force or the Navy, and are drived by experts ex-pilots contracted for the company.
Those aircraft are used also for modernizations and improvements by the company , and at the end of their life, are stored. Airforce does not operate no one MiG-35.
The MiG-35 has 4 prototypes:
The high tail numbers 7xx , indicates are not regular airplanes, are factory airplanes.
In all cases is clearly indicated that the operator of this four prototypes is: КБ МиГ - РСК МиГ , this means RSK MiG = the manufacturer
This four airplanes are for service of the manufacturer during all the live of the project.
Is for that the MiG-35 should be in the list of future airplanes of the VKS , not in the list of airplanes in service.
Today has been announced the first contract for 6 airplanes MiG-35 for hand over until 2023
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3316363.html
The program is still in the state fligth tests stage, since this spring and for about 1,5 or 2 years, and after that could start the production if there are not more matters, so is not probable the first production MiG-35 will be seend to VKS before 2020-21 in a rate of 2 per year--AMCXXL (talk) 19:57, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
Strategic Bombers
Realistic sources say really operational 16 Tu-160 , 32 Tu-95MS and 41 Tu-22M3 https://russiamil.wordpress.com/tag/russian-air-force--AMCXXL (talk) 07:55, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of List of active Russian military aircraft's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "World Air Forces 2021":
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 23:49, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
I've gone through and updated the page from lists that contain similar sources (Military Balance 2022, World Air Forces 2022).
When doing this, I noticed that many errors have crept into this article. It's partly due to vandalism, and partly because terms are left undefined and people update independently according to their own definitions.
One common error seems to be how to update aircraft on order. When news about delivery appear, some people decrement the number of aircraft on order, and increase the "in service" column. This has led to it increasing far above what the total order size is, as it can become unclear which part of an order is being delivered in which particular news.
Therefore, I suggest that we specify the total contract size, and then count up to this number in the notes as news about deliveries appear. For example "32 on order, 3 of which have been delivered and are in service". Having this information makes it easier to cross-verify and correct errors as they appear. When an order is complete, this note, as well as all the news sources, can be removed, as the count will be incorporated in credible sources (Military Balance, World Air Forces).
Also, some newer aircraft, such as the Su-57 and MiG-35, have been partially delivered, but the planes are not yet in active military service. These should not be listed in the "In Service" column, but instead be left in the "Total" column with a note.
Strange-attractor (talk) 13:26, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
https://mezha.media/2022/04/25/zyomka-raketnyy-kreyser-moskva/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.206.156.36 (talk) 23:00, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
I see a lot of referenced sources being removed by non-users who have only an IP address. If someone could please add protection. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahm1453 (talk • contribs) 13:27, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
This edit implies that the Shahed-136 (Geran-2) drone is somehow commanded by the Russian Ground Forces, whereas it would seem natural to put long-range munitions under the command of the Russian Air Force. Does anyone have good reference material for the identity of the command structure which flies the Geran-2? For all we know, the Geran-2 might be flown by the Wagner Group. Herreshoffian (talk) 13:02, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
The article is full of lies when it comes to the number of planes. The main source is The Military Balance 2022 but it gives much less planes that is stated here. I checked these numbers in source, corrected, and now someone put the wrong numbers back. 2A02:A318:4042:D400:CDAA:8001:5464:ED37 (talk) 14:27, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
some people are only uses the smallest estimates for Russian air force numbers examples are mig 29 only 87 su 27 only 101 and an124 only 4 clearly anti Russian editors have been changing numbers apparently numbers come from the military Balance 2022 (which is a book) but no photo evidence of this is available please either put higher numbers in total aircraft put a + next to the aircraft with higher estimates put both numbers down the main source for larger numbers is flightgobal world airforces Yarael poof2 (talk) 23:59, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
When looking at various wiki pages I find it interesting that other inventories are not hyper-commented on estimated losses. The Ukrainian Air Force, for example, for all intents no longer exists and yet there is nary a mention of losses. Conversely, the Russian Air Force on this page is reduced by losses not even remotely verified. It is representative of the bias not only of western media but also of Wiki in general. 70.120.79.115 (talk) 21:41, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
Some of the latest Oryx report, especially for helicopters such as Ka-52 are from random screenshot of telegram texts without visual evidences, and Russian losses are often presumed to be "completely unsalvageable". This goes for other Oryx flawed report of Russian losses, even including "unknown jet fighter" using telegram screenshot as "source". Oryx also using Tweeter as source even though it is also unreliable Dauzlee (talk) 11:10, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
Recent edits by Emperorpenguin20160923 increase the number of aircraft with edits that either are unsourced or poorly sourced:
Challenging these edits due to the lack of citations and reverting them unless supporting evidence is provided. Steady as she goes (talk) 16:53, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Undid the edit that added 24 Su-35 (for the Russian Naval Aviation) after reviewing based on the following:
Would prefer to source this from The Military Balance 2024, but I do not have one at hand. World Air Forces 2024 lists Su-27/30/35 as a combination with a total of 365 and 12 on order, the number of Su-35 is not singled out.
Given the Russian invasion of Ukraine, pointing the exact number of Su-35 in Russian inventory is hardly possible. Until and unless better sources are available, I am suggesting that we
Steady as she goes (talk) 19:13, 29 May 2024 (UTC)