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User:Roscelese has twice removed one of the sources in which the book was reviewed, but due to our edit-warring policies, I will not re-add it to the article, and instead mention it here. This 2007 review discussed a 2006 book written by Nonie Darwish. From the context, and especially after all the comparisons to the other reviews, it is clear that the book being reviewed is Now They Call Me Infidel. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 19:05, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
- More content has been removed by the nominator.[1]--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 21:12, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
- Brewcrewer forgets to mention that none of the sources state or even imply that Darwish was disinvited because of the book. The paragraph belongs in the article on Darwish, where I put it and from which Brewcrewer then removed it. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 21:14, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
- That's just not true. The speeches were part of the book tour for this specific book. This much is made quite clear by the sources. You want to nominate it for deletion, fine, but don't try to ruin the article at the same time. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 21:18, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
- If it's "quite clear," you should be able to provide a quote that says so. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 21:20, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
(od) Okay, so I spent time getting the exact words that establish the nexus between the book and the protests. The following quotes from the sources discussing the speaking controversy that you removed make it clear that the speaking controversy was a result of, if not closely intertwined with, the book she published:
- [2]"In part to drive home that point, she wrote a book, just out. Its title says it all: “Now They Call Me Infidel: Why I Renounced Jihad for America, Israel, and the War on Terror.”
- [3] "Given that Darwish is the author of the recently released book, 'Now They Call Me Infidel: Why I Renounced Jihad for America, Israel and the War on Terror'...."
- [4] Last year she was banned from the campus of Brown University, in Rhode Island, one of America's most prestigious academic institutions. The speaking invitation came jointly from a Jewish student group and the women's studies department, but was abruptly withdrawn, allegedly after pressure from Brown's Muslim chaplain, who claimed that Darwish had made anti-Islamic remarks and that her presence would be provocative. The university's female, Christian, chaplain backed the ban, although it was pointed out that she had promoted an earlier Palestinian solidarity week. The inevitable row catapulted the affair - and the book - into the headlines.
- [5]"...and authored the recently published book Now They Call Me Infidel: Why I Renounced Jihad for America, Israel, and the War on Terror. She joined the growing ranks of Muslim-born individuals - many of them not coincidentally women, including Irshad Manji, Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Wafa Sultan - speaking out against Islamic extremism at significant personal risk.."
- [6] "Darwish, who has written a book, Now They Call Me Infidel: Why I Renounced Jihad for America, Israel and the War on Terror, became particularly impassioned when speaking about the treatment of women in the Arab Muslim world"
I suppose we can further wikilawyer and argue that none of the sources it say it explicitly that the brouhaha was related to the book, but I'll let the quotes speak for themselves, and hopefully speak to the neutral and objective reader of this discussion.--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 21:56, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
- You call it wikilawyering - I call it one of Wikipedia's three core content policies. If you have a problem with the fundamental policies of this site, why are you here? I'm sure there are many lesser sites that would love to have a piece of original research on a non-notable book. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 22:02, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
We already know she wrote a book. Big deal, she's a special snowflake author. Now prove that the disinvitation was because of the book. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 23:06, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
Continuing the discussion from the AFD I'd like to point out that there are in fact plenty of places online that cover the book.
Google news archive search shows a lot of results [7] Some are hidden behind a paywall, but the summaries seem to be discussing the book.
Searching for just the main title of the book, not the subtitle, gives far more results. [9] Dream Focus 18:59, 29 December 2010 (UTC)