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Hi everyone - just letting this WikiProject know that a Peer Review of LGBT in the Ottoman Empire (with the intention of improving this to Good Article status) is currently under way. If anyone has anything to add to the article / review, it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! GnocchiFan (talk) 17:19, 21 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

As someone who who had the late stage of the Ottoman Empire in their academic carrier, I think I can do the review. I have always been resistant oto review a GA article myself, but I do feel confident about this subject. I have to read myself into the guidlines for performing a review first, however. VenusFeuerFalle (talk) 06:39, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Muslim conquest of Spain#Requested move 5 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 17:11, 5 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Muhammad Khatami#Requested move 6 January 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 01:10, 6 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Re'im music festival massacre#Requested move 6 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 13:02, 6 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Siege of Gaza City#Requested move 6 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 19:28, 7 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Holit massacre#Requested move 10 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:32, 10 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Nir Yitzhak massacre#Requested move 10 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:37, 10 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Mu'tazilism#Requested move 10 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 20:00, 10 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Nasheed#Requested move 11 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 01:06, 12 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Houthi involvement in the Israel–Hamas war#Requested move 12 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 10:17, 12 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please provide your opinions and comments at Talk:Banu_Fazara#RfC on Umm Qirfa that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 2A00:801:707:AFAE:FC02:57DA:9BB7:8E6E (talk) 23:15, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Dear all, I work at the University of Edinburgh as Wikimedian in Residence and am currently supporting students on a 55-80hr volunteering project where they choose a topic they would like to research from October to (end of) March and where their research and writing would help help improve their studies and also the topic coverage on Wikipedia. One student has chosen as their focus: Islamic history and culture. Within this, they have February and March left to work on their project and they have decided they would like to spend 50hrs researching and writing pages covering the 50 names of God in Islam. A couple of example pages have already been written:

Al-Qahhar

Al-Khaliq

They are keen to continue on the same trajectory as they find the research rewarding and believe Wikipedia readers will too. My only concern is that the two examples are quite quote-heavy as things stand and that 50 individual pages might not be welcome in terms of 'bloating' Wikipedia or that it might not be academically challenging to write 50 similar articles or that it might just be better covered in one condensed summary page on Wikipedia (something one of Islamic Art lecturers also confessed might be more appropriate for an encyclopedia). The argument put forward is that Arabic Wikipedia and Kazakh Wikipedia already have versions of the pages linked above so why not English Wikipedia too. I just thought I'd check what the consensus view might be before they proceed further. I do not want to dismiss the project or 'gatekeep' in any way but thought I'd check what the view of WikiProject Islam editors might be before we progressed or if you might have alternative suggestions for a project focus given Islamic history and culture covers a vast swathe of potential topic areas if this current idea is not viable. Any thoughts do let me know and I'll pass on to the student accordingly. Thanks! Stinglehammer (talk) 18:15, 8 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It would seem that the student's answer to your concern is to invoke WP:Whataboutism. Wikipedia has 99 Names of God in Islam although nearer 50 in Category:Names of God in Islam. Just looking at the pages you highlight I am less than impressed. It would take all day to articulate the issues. I really do not have time at the moment but will make a start but I suspect any encyclopedic content that remains will be comfortably merged into the main article. Tiny Particle (talk) 09:49, 9 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Your student is misrepresenting the references as relatively modern. The references are old (almost 700 years in one case). It is the translations that are modern (if Salafi can be defined as such) Tiny Particle (talk) 11:33, 9 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

And by that I mean all projects that are related to Islam in Wikipedia (Template:Islam, Portal:Islam and WikiProject Islam) We need to use a unified icon for all of them.

And I think we should be using the crescent and star, because it doesn't matter if it was related with The Ottoman Empire, Greeks or any other nation, it is now the most popular icon for Islam in both Islamic countries AND especially across non-Muslim people to refer to Islam. And people of non-Muslim backgrounds and those who can't read Arabic or still learning it and the ones who are not familiar with Arabic alphabet and calligraphy would have it difficult for them to know that this word is Allah and it means God in Arabic and in this context it refers to the Muslim God only (although it used by all religions in the Arab World) and then realize that this article is about Islam. So, whether that this icon was popularized by Ottomans or not it is now the most recognizable icon for Islam across all nations. And moreover some researchers say that it wasn't popularized by the Ottomans: How the quarter-crescent moon came to symbolize Islam is uncertain. Many explanations with varying degrees of plausibility have been offered. Among the most popular is the assertion that the symbol signifies the position ofthemoon and the planetVenus at dawn on 23 July 610 A.D., when the Prophet Mohammed received his initial revelation from God.

Cyril Glassé in his The New Encyclopedia of Islam (2001 edition, s.v. "Moon") states that "in the language of conventional symbols, the crescent and star have become the symbols of Islam as much as the cross is the symbol of Christianity."^[1]

The word Allah simply means God in Arabic and it predates Islam. Those who claim that the word Allah is "inclusive of all Muslims", please provide your proof. All religions with all the sects believe in a God but that doesn't make the calligraphy of the word God a symbol of the said religion! Please support your claims with sources that prove that this word symbolize Islam! Is there any Islamic organizations that use it? No. But many Islamic organizations does use the crescent and star. Here's a few examples:

That's why I think the Star and Crescent is the most representative of Islam and I don't think that there's any Islamic sects that is against it and hence why it's the one that should be used. Thank you! ☆SuperNinja2☆ 12:16, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Then does anyone disagree on using this file of a green crescent and star symbol to be used as the new default icon representing Islam across Wikipedia?

and these ones when the background is green?

☆SuperNinja2☆ 06:33, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Star and crescent is no related to Islam as a symbol, even International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement use it. And why we need a unified icon. Zsohl^(Talk) 12:18, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Did you read my argument? A red crescent indicates that followers of Islam are respected and treated accordingly.

And why we need a unified icon

Because using the word Allah is misleading because it does not represent Islam. ☆SuperNinja2☆ 13:01, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Made up argument, See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement#Red_Crescent.

This can't be a reason to change all different images to one. Also, In the English language, the word Allah generally refers to God in Islam.

Star and crescent can be symbol of a organization or as design of mosque. Various calligraphies including calligraphy of the word Allah are also used in the mosque. So reason is not valid.

Star and crescent do not represent any religion as a whole. Zsohl^(Talk) 13:30, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

the Red Cross is the name used in mainly Christian countries. The Red Crescent is the name used in mainly Muslim countries. (A cross is a symbol of Christianity and a crescent is a symbol of Islam.), a red crescent indicates that followers of Islam are respected and treated accordingly

and the article on Wikipedia mentions this "For over 50 years, Israel requested the addition of a red Star of David, arguing that since Christian and Muslim emblems were recognized, the corresponding Jewish emblem should be as well", and "The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) was concerned with the possibility that the two previous symbols (Red Cross and Red Crescent) were conveying religious meanings. This may not be compatible in a majority Hindu or Buddhist country from the Asia-Pacific region, for example, where the majority did not associate with these symbols " which means that the red crescent IS associated with Islam.

Star and crescent do not represent any religion as a whole.

According to who? Provide your sources.

Also, In the English language, the word Allah generally refers to God in Islam.

Allah is Arabic word, not English.

Star and crescent can be symbol of a organization or as design of mosque.

So what?

Various calligraphies including calligraphy of the word Allah are also used in the mosque. So reason is not valid.

But they are not used on the domes. Using it on the domes of the mosques to distinguish them from the domes of the churches make it representable of Islam.

You kept attacking the crescent and star but you did not provide a single reason to make Allah more reasonable to be used as an icon.

This can't be a reason to change all different images to one

Then, un addition to the use of word Allah in both WikiProject Islam and Portal:Islam (for the pre-stated reasons) , I object using the Arabic calligraphy of Shahada in Template:WikiProject Islam because it is hard for foreigners to understand that this is shahada. ☆SuperNinja2☆ 14:46, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

According to who? Provide your sources: Burden of proof is on you, you are making claim that Star and crescent is related to Islam.

Allah is Arabic word, not English: I know, but it is English Wikipedia, even though ar:Template:Islam also use calligraphy of the word Allah.

did not provide a single reason to make Allah more reasonable to be used: I am against Star and crescent image, for other image we can also discuss, but if not Star and crescent then default is File:Allah3.svg

And you haven't provide any Islamic sources which claim that Star and crescent is related to Islam. Zsohl^(Talk) 16:26, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Burden of proof is on you, you are making claim that Star and crescent is related to Islam.

I already did. Please humble yourself and have a look at my argument above.

You can't object for the sake of objection. You need to explain why you're against using the crescent and star with solid reliable sources to back your claim and provide alternatives. Saying for other image we can also discuss is not reasonable. So, why are you objecting the use of the crescent and star if you don't have a better alternative? How are we supposed to know that the said alternative is better than the crescent and star if we postpone the discussion if it? That is not rational. I already provided reliable sources and academic studies and researches but it's now clear enough for me that you didn't bother reading my argument. What a pity!

even though ar:Template:Islam also use calligraphy of the word Allah

that means it is used in Arabic context.

And you haven't provide any Islamic sources which claim that Star and crescent is related to Islam.

Not all readers are with Muslim background, which means that the icon has to be familiar with both Muslims and non-Muslims to be able to serve its duty of letting the reader relate it with Islam. And there is no better fit for this than the crescent and star which is a universal symbol for Islam according to the sources I already provided above. ☆SuperNinja2☆ 18:09, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I do read the arguments, but it look more like a Original research, none of the cited sources are reliable except one, The New Encyclopedia of Islam states as opinion, The crescent and star feature in the flags of many Islamic countries which were formerly part of the Ottoman Empire. Thus, in the language of conventional symbols, the crescent and star have become the symbols of Islam....

Brandon University: [5] This article is about work on Stained Glass. Yale University: [6] states- certainly not in uniform use among Muslims

that means it is used in Arabic context: What? See calligraphy of the word Allah as symbol or icon. To become familiar with the icon you need to know what it is.

you don't have a better alternative: I do have, leave it as it is.

If Islamic sources neither endorse nor support the crescent and star, then how can we use it to represent it.

The image you propose represent Ottoman Empire and Pakistan more than Islam. If a country's flag is used it does not mean that it represents any religion.

Do you know that is written on image of Template:Chinese Buddhism, but still it represent the religion. Zsohl^(Talk) 13:50, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

it look more like a Original research

Explain more.

none of the cited sources are reliable except one

According to who? And why are they not reliable?

See calligraphy of the word Allah as symbol or icon. To become familiar with the icon you need to know what it is.

I didn't find any source that says it us used as an icon or symbol. If you find any, I would be happy to have a look at them.

The crescent and star feature in the flags of many Islamic countries which were formerly part of the Ottoman Empire

Pakistan, Malaysia, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, MaldivesCocos (Keeling) Islands, Comoros, Brunei, East Turkestan, Western Sahara, Singapore, Algeria, Morocco, North Caucasian Emirate, Afghanistan, Mauritania, Grozny, Nozhay-Yurtovsky District, and Shalinsky District were not part of the Ottoman Empire.

The image you propose represent Ottoman Empire and Pakistan more than Islam.

Pakistan wasn't part of the Ottoman Empire.

Brandon University: [5] This article is about work on Stained Glass

So what? This doesn't make it any less qualified.

Yale University: [6] states- certainly not in uniform use among Muslims

I didn't say it is in uniform use. Not even the cross is in uniform use among Christians, for example Russian Orthodox Christians use their own version of the cross.

The crescent and star feature in the flags of many Islamic countries which were formerly part of the Ottoman Empire. Thus, in the language of conventional symbols, the crescent and star have become the symbols of Islam.

I already stated in my argument that it doesn't matter if the Crescent and Star symbol was popularized by the Ottoman Empire because it is now the most popular symbol associated with Islam.

I do have, leave it as it is.

Then prove that the Allah calligraphy image is more prevalent and better associated with Islam, appealing to both Muslim and non-Muslim readers. Criticizing the Crescent and Star symbol without providing evidence that Allah calligraphy is a better alternative does not impact the Crescent and Star's significance or standing.

If a country's flag is used it does not mean that it represents any religion.

Read the article about the flags of the countries I mentioned; the crescent in each of them represents Islam.

Do you know that is written on image of Template:Chinese Buddhism, but still it represent the religion.

I don't know much about Buddhism, so I can't give my opinion on this subject. But introducing Buddhism into this conversation shifts the focus away from its main topic.

This discussion is tuning into a WP:FORUM, if you don't have any reliable sources to support your POV then this discussion is useless. No offense. ☆SuperNinja2☆ 15:26, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I don't know much about Buddhism, so I can't give my opinion on this subject: Neither about Islam. It's not whataboutery, it's about Wikipedia consensus and common rule across site.

@VenusFeuerFalle You may agree with me or not, but share your views on this. Zsohl^(Talk) 15:46, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What you just did is WP:Canvassing and it is aginst the rules!!!☆SuperNinja2☆ 16:10, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Greetings,

I don't think this falls under WP:Canvassing but rather third opinion, given that I do a lot of Islam-related edits and have a focus on Islamic history especially Central and South Asia. Since, there is no reason to assume we know each other from other edits or talkpage, there is little reason to assume I was tagged in favor of a specific opinion. Please remember the good faith policy even if it is hard in frustrating discussions. VenusFeuerFalle (talk) 18:33, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I apologize for the misunderstanding and I take back what I said. Thanks for the advice. ☆SuperNinja2☆ 20:26, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Super ninja2 Disrespectful, I think you should review your words from your unblock request. Zsohl^(Talk) 05:09, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The Symbol of the crescent has been used as a symbol for Islam for a long time. Accordnig to Symbols of Islam#Star and crescent it was used since the "Umayyad Caliphate Muslims after the Rashidun Caliphate's conquest of the region." and is further more accepted by different nations and countries who identify with the religion of Islam (Star and crescent#National flags. The article mentions that the crescent was also used "in western heraldry from at least the 13th century, while the star and crescent (or "Sun and Moon") emblem is in use in medieval seals at least from the late 12th century." However, it confirms that it is "in contemporary times used as a national symbol for some countries, and a recognized symbol of Islam."

I see little reason to contest that the crescent is a symbol of Islam, but I have not seen any reason prefer this over the calligraphy "Allah", which is also used as a symbol in mosques. I do not have a strong opinion on either of both. Both work for me. If the consensus would go towards the crescent, I would choice the green, since it holds importance in in Islamic tradition. An alternative color would be blue (Blue Symbolism in Islam | Slightly Blue). I would recommand not to use black, since black is rather associated with grief, the End-Times, or even Jihadism, thus bearing a negative connotation.

I hope I was able to help and thanks for the tag,

sincery VenusFeuerFalle (talk) 18:45, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for your valuable reply.

I will go with this. We need to reach a consensus. Without this, there should be no changes otherwise it will be reverted.

As calligraphic "Allah" is a symbol of Islam.

Oppose: Star and crescent Zsohl^(Talk) 05:18, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

• Re-opened as clearly an editor who has taken part in the discussion and espoused one particular format cannot close this. Black Kite (talk) 14:04, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Weak Oppose. As a Muslim myself, I see both symbols as a good way to represent Islam. calligraphy Allah is a good choice because that is written in Arabic, and most people associate that type of writing with Islam. The star and crescent is more tricky for me. While it is a symbol that can also easily by associated with Islam, as Zsohl did bring up, it didn't become a popular symbol of Islam until the Ottomans, as proven by multiple sources. The 🏎 Corvette 🏍 ZR1^{(The Garage)} 17:08, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Support. The problem with the calligraphy icon is that, while it should be understood to readers as the word "Allah" in Arabic, it's not really being used that way. A vast majority of this site's users can't read that script so they see it, figure it looks like Arabic, and deduce that the topic at hand is Islam. Such readers would come to that conclusion no matter what the word is as long as it's obviously Arabic writing. (The next few sentences contain information I got from Google Translate so I apologize in advance if I get anything wrong.) Replace it with "الإسلام" ("Islam") and it does the same thing. Replace it with "عربي" ("Arabic") and it does the same thing. Replace it with a completely random word like "صباح" ("morning") and it does the same thing. I think the calligraphy functions as a generic signifier to people who don't know what it says and that feels awfully offensive.

Super ninja2 is right that the script icon isn't ideal. Zsohl is right that the crescent and star icon also isn't ideal. It's frustrating that they had this nasty back-and-forth because it all just means that there is no perfect option here. If I'm right about how the calligraphy icon is actually used by readers, it really ought to go and the only appropriate replacement is the crescent and star icon. City of Silver 18:23, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I understand but about calligraphy icon used by readers. No Arabic word even "الإسلام" ("Islam") will do the same thing, because Word "Allah" have unique two parallel "Big and small W like script (for users can't read that script) " which make it a unique symbol of Islam.

If you were right about script, Template:Hinduism will not have that icon because Devanagari script have many letters to resemble it, but that icon rightly represent Hinduism. Same goes to other templates and icons.

Star and crescent is not unique to Islam or Muslim countries.

- Flag of Portsmouth, England

- Coat of arms of Oelde, Germany

- Coat of arms of Tarnobrzeg, Poland Zsohl^(Talk) 04:32, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Not to mention it was originally used in Byzantium, the Kingdom of Pontus, and the Sassanid Empire before it's wide usage as a symbol of Islam, according to the article star and crescent. The 🏎 Corvette 🏍 ZR1^{(The Garage)} 13:51, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

My reasoning is based on what helps this site's readers, a vast majority of whom don't know much about Islam. I'm totally convinced that crescent/star isn't a 100% perfect option. I agree with you both on that. I just believe neither is a perfect choice to make here. We need an icon that automatically makes readers think "Islam." Both options do that. I just think, since almost any word in Arabic does this for most of our readers, it's just the less ideal option. I'm not convinced that most readers of English Wikipedia can look at "الله" and immediately know it means "Allah" and want to know why? Because Zsohl, until you pointed out the big-and-small-W thing, I couldn't differentiate it from anything else in Arabic. (So thank you for pointing that out! Now I can instantly recognize it, which is really cool.) This is all my opinion and if consensus doesn't go my way, that'll be fine. City of Silver 20:18, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

• Oppose the only reasoning presented is that the word "Allah" predates Islam, which is even more true for the star and crescent. Why not use the name of Muhammad, as a figure central to all Islam and only Islam, or no icon at all? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:11, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Support the s+c symbol (less emphatic on colour etc) as far more recognisable to non-Muslims, and perhaps many Muslims. Johnbod (talk) 18:36, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]