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The 1870 rules did include offside but Sheffield had an offside rule before 1870. Firstly as previously stated on the Football page "by 1866, when Sheffield played a combined FA side, they were employing their own version of offside that differed from the FA rule" - I did have a cite for that but I can't find it at the moment, and secondly - in The Code War - ISBN - 1874427658 page 28 it states that in 1867 Sheffield made proposal to chage the FA rules including an offside rule that "any player found to be behind the goalkeeper when the ball was played to be ruled offside" Jooler 18:20, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
I've looked it up and finally have the full quote from The History of the Football Association (1951) page 41 - "Briefly it [a letter from the Secretary of Sheffield (W.J. Chesterman)] proposed a match between London and Sheffield. True, Sheffield at the moment abided by their own rules of play which differed somewhat from those of The Football Association (Sheffield, for instance in their off-side law required only ONE defender to be between an attacker and the goal), but still this was a start and it was seized upon by the Association. The Secretary [of the FA], now R.W. Willis, or Barnes, who had taken Morley's place, was instructed to accept the challenge, and arrange the match at Battersea Park, 11-a-side, on either March 17 or 31st". The first leg was played in Battersea Park on 31st March 1866 under FA rules- the FA won by 2 goals and four touchdowns to nil. The return leg was played in Sheffield under Sheffield rules but no date or scoreline is given. Jooler 22:03, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Got 'Football in Sheffield' and it seems that it is a similar situation as above. The rules were continually updated but not always published. It concurs with your book about the Secretary of Sheffield suggesting another match in Nov '66 and an amendment (in FA meeting on 12th Febuary 1867) but doesn't state whether Sheffield teams were already using this rule or it was meant to be a compremise. The next set of rules to be published were in 1870 and contained the one-man offside rule. Perhaps we could say something along the lines of "It is unclear exactly when Sheffield Rules first adopted the offside rule but a one-man version was suggested to the FA by them in 1867. The next publication of the rule book, in 1870, included the rule." josh (talk) 19:12, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
I think this page should mention Sheffield's role in the early passing game. See Combination Game —Preceding unsigned comment added by Footballwecan80 (talk • contribs) 12:17, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Hey. I'll be doing the review for this article. I've read through it, and here are some suggestions for improvement:
That's about it. I fixed a couple of the sentences, because in most cases, the word "however" shouldn't be at the beginning of a sentence. The sources all look good, and the pictures are all either from the commons or have an appropriate fair-use rationale. The article will be on hold for seven days for the improvements. Nikki311 05:23, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
I can see that the A-rating [4] pre-dates the A-class review system [5], and I agree that the absence of a review is no reason to re-grade the article. However, if the article does not meet the criteria, then there is no reason for it to retain A-class status either since ratings can change at any time, depending on the shifting quality of the article and changes in the grading schemes.
I don't believe this article does meet the current standard, specifically because it contains claims which may be disputed. The sentence claiming that the first inter-club game was played with these rules lacks a citation. As the date of foundation of the oldest football club is contested, the date of the first game may also be contested. Further confusion is introduced because of the different forms of football. Presumably, university college "football" clubs were playing each other before these rules were drawn up.
Potentially contentious statements without cites include "disliked due to the lack of goal scoring opportunities"; "to prevent the Sheffield game looking boring"; "The FA accepted the Sheffield rule...[and]...in return the FA's use of a three man offside was adopted" (implies a quid pro quo, but was it just accepting the best each had to offer without any deal being done?); "in financial trouble"; "set up to test the use of the lights" or to launch the ground as a marketing ploy?; "credited with creating the original rules". DrKiernan (talk) 16:39, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
At the end of the third paragraph under Birth of competition, “halfway line” is linked to the Association football pitch article. The latter article has no reference to “halfway line”. Mathyeti (talk) 00:21, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
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Two major maintenance tags outstanding. I'm not too familiar with the content, but those issues should be resolved before the article can stay as a GA.