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Isn't Tarahumara, which in its own tongue IIRC is called Purepechua, not of the same family as Uto-Aztecan languages? Or am I confusing the Tarahumara with someone else? (if the Tarahumara are those runners in the Copper Canyon area, then I'm wrong). But anyway, Purepechua, whatever its name in Spanish is (and it does have a different name) I'm pretty sure isn't Uto-Aztecan; it's distinct and their culture remained/remains distinct. Michoacan area, including Patzcuaro but the ancient capital is a place called Tzintzuntzan, on the main highway (such as it is) into Patzcuaro; ancient pyramid-altars (no blood, just fire with these folks) and a busy trade in carve wooden furniture (nice stuff, cheap, too). Purepechua is known for being tonal and in that aspect resembling (but not being related to) Sino-Thai languages; IIRC it's the only Amerind language north of Panama that's tonal like that. I know it sounds like I'm answering my own question but my point in fielding this here is to see if anyone else has heard of this, or might even have the specifics on it.Skookum1 05:58, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
Yes, that's the one thank you; it's just that I thought that language, whatever it was, should be added to the list of languages of the Sierra Madre Occidental, since they're not Uto-Aztecan? . . . . I guess once you've read this and either put the Purepecha (sp.) into the list, or let me know I should/can, you can delete all of the above if you want.Skookum1 09:10, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
Well, what the hell is the range between Patzcuaro and Playa Azul, then? I'd assumed that was the Sierra Madre Occidental. 'Cause it sure as hell is a mountain range (I've driven through it and along its Pacific flank), as is most of southern Michoacan.; same mountains than run between Morelos and Guerrero, or rather through Guerrero. What are they then?Skookum1 19:30, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
The citation given for the claim that the Sierra Madre Occidental extend into AZ discusses ecoregions, not mountains. The Chiricahua, Huachuca, and other major mountain ranges of southeastern AZ and in Mexico west of Agua Prieta are Basin and Range mountains; south of Agua Prieta the Sierra Madre form an unbroken range that runs as far south as Guanajuato. The Animas Mountains of extreme southwestern NM are sometimes referred to as Sierra Madre outliers, but a good citation would be needed to claim their inclusion. Bkalafut (talk) 10:41, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
easy reference site: for coordinates of Sierra Madre Occidental: click the link to the site and source it! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MiniKing (talk • contribs) 14:28, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Ruben E. Reyes is Mexican. He was raised in Mexico City. But some of the indigenous Tarahumara people of northern Mexico had a word for him when he first traveled among them in 2002. The word was “gringo.”
“I was never called that before,” Mr. Reyes, 31, recalled recently.
Though his father’s family had come from an area about 50 miles away, Mr. Reyes was an outsider in the Copper Canyon, among the mountains of the Sierra Madre Occidental. He found the Tarahumara, who are known for their running prowess, living lives not wholly unlike their ancestors centuries ago, who fled to these elevations from the Spanish.
“They still had their own culture,” Mr. Reyes said. “It wasn’t Mexicanized.”
However, by the time he returned for several months in 2009 to photograph, Mr. Reyes saw signs of a cultural shift among the Tarahumara (also known as the Rarámuri). Men who had previously worn loincloths now wore jeans. Children, most of them now in school, were speaking Spanish, while their grandparents spoke only Tarahumara. People were leaving the canyon to seek work in the cities. Yet, at the same time, Mr. Reyes found many traditional religious practices still being maintained, alongside Catholic observances.
His black-and-white, medium-format photographs have a timelessness of their own, as if they had been taken a century ago. But this wasn’t the result of some conscious aesthetic strategy. “This is just the way I photograph,” Mr. Reyes said.
He currently works as a freelance photographer in Cincinnati, where he lives with his wife, Jamie, and their newborn daughter. That’s a long way from Copper Canyon.
“It was like a dream being there — all magic and beauty,” Mr. Reyes said. “This was the land of my forefathers. I’ve been living outside of Mexico for 12 years. You don’t really appreciate what you have in your country until you leave it.”
http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/08/an-ancient-culture-in-mountainous-mexico/?ref=world —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.250.155.34 (talk) 19:56, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
I would like to make an edit to expand the information in this article by breaking up the setting section into sections on the name, geography, geology, climate, and water then adding and citing the information that belongs in each. I will do this in the next couple of days, unless someone feels that there is a good reason not to. Al Climbs (talk) 22:29, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Some suggestions:
Hope this helps. --Tobias1984 (talk) 08:11, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Does anyone else see anything that needs to be cited or can we remove the reference improve template? It's been up here for more than two years now, and a lot has changed since then, and I don't see what still needs citation, unless it's the lead. --Al Climbs (talk) 05:06, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
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There are two sections called "Geography". NotYourFathersOldsmobile (talk) 08:45, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
I think this article is just shy of B class but leaving it as B class seems reasonable as the failures are relatively minor.
RedWolf (talk) 21:50, 15 April 2019 (UTC)