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Do we really need to talk about movies that may or may not be produced in the future. Paramount's financial situation is very precarious. I don't think any of these plans are concrete. This page needs a bit of a trim. Oldag07 (talk) 17:02, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Moved unannounced films to film page. Oldag07 (talk) 14:14, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This was a strange and trivial change. Film productions frequently take years of development before they are produced. Furthermore, Paramount detailed/clarified that none of their announced films are cancelled -- confirming that they are still in development. Where exactly did you move the details User:Oldag07?--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 06:28, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
DisneyMetalhead, I appreciate your contributions. While you do have sources for these, the primary Star Trek page is already 176,224 bytes, nearing the WP:SIZERULE. We are currently discussing the removal of individual sections for each series on this page, with information being moved to List of Star Trek films. Studios typically have several scripts in development simultaneously for potential movies, and while they may not officially cancel them, it's not practical to include speculative scripts for every potential future Star Trek movie on a page meant to provide an overview of the franchise's history, including TV series, films, books, cultural impact, and merchandise. Pages like Development of Star Trek 4 and List of Star Trek films already cover much of this. Star Trek has only produced three films in the last two decades; expecting six more in the next decade seems unrealistic. Even Star Wars hasn't been that productive. Additionally, Paramount's ongoing acquisition talks add uncertainty to the franchise's future [[1]].
Look at the state of some of the future Star Trek films that currently are on this page:
The Noah Hawley film was placed on hold by Paramount Pictures president Emma Watts source, current page, who took the franchise in a different direction.
Is this page, already bloated as it is, really need more information about speculative films? A good compromise could be to compress all the bullet points into a single paragraph, except for the section 31 film, which has been greenlit and is in production. Oldag07 (talk) 12:02, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Removed the films that have questionable interpretation of sources:
"Should “Section 31” prove successful, Yeoh says she’s game for a sequel. And Kurtzman is already eyeing more opportunities for TV movies, including a possible follow-up to “Picard.”"
I have gone further and removed the whole future section, this information is already detailed appropriately at List of Star Trek films and does not need to be duplicated here. - adamstom97 (talk) 10:04, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As long as its detailed somewhere, whether in pros or bullets -- the average reader (who isn't a Star Trek fan) could benefit from reading the various scripts the studio has written. Furthermore, as I had stated before -- the studio clarified that none of the projects had been cancelled. This seems to override The Guardian, Geek Tyrant (side-note is this even a reliable source?), and Variety. Cheers m8s!--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 16:22, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
DisneyMetalhead you have done some great work. We appreciate it. Oldag07 (talk) 16:30, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do we still need a section for all the series when there is a whole article that already does that at List of Star Trek television series? Feels like this is just leftover from before that article was created and was never cleaned-up. I propose we remove those sections and just have the overview table like we do for the films. - adamstom97 (talk) 12:14, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm willing to be swayed by other editors, but it does seem a bit redundant, and creates more work when updates are needed. DonIago (talk) 14:32, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I can get behind this. Perhaps we can compress these into three major sections:
That would seem to draw a false distinction between the animated shows and the other two categories (especially since Lower Decks at least is a streaming show as well)? DonIago (talk) 20:42, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would think the most logical divide would be Animated and Live Action. Isn't that the standard division in most media articles? ——Digital Jedi Master (talk) 00:45, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I feel that would be more arbitrary than some of the other suggestions, the three animated shows don't have much to do with one another. I think broadcast and streaming would make more sense because it keeps all the Kurtzman-era shows together. - adamstom97 (talk) 08:05, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have removed the redundant sections but did not split the TV shows into sections yet, waiting for clearer consensus on the best direction for that. - adamstom97 (talk) 10:03, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Broadcast and streaming sounds fine to me. SonOfThornhill (talk) 13:28, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As long as there's are the same details and a similar layout on the List of Star Trek television series article, this doesn't seem controversial.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 16:23, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nice, the page is 122,190 bytes as of this edit. This article hasn't been this slim since 3 September 2019. That is the year of discovery's first season. This is with a bunch of new content. Keep up the good work. Oldag07 (talk) 12:19, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If we are moving individual sections for each of the shows, something I agree with, we should also move the top ten episodes section. I don't think it is controverial, so i will do so now. Oldag07 (talk) 16:35, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Moved to the lists of Star Trek episodes page. I am not sure that is the best location. I am hesitant to create a whole new page of episode ratings. I am not sure if such a page would survive an AFD proposal. Oldag07 (talk)
I agree. I am hesitant to remove information outright. i am more of an advocate to spin the information off into sunpages. After looking very hard for a better location, the list of Star Trek television series seems the best out of a lot of not so great options. Oldag07 (talk) 12:12, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Proposal to move the List of Star Trek episodes into the List of Star Trek lists[edit]
A proposal has been made to move the List of Star Trek episodes page into the List of Star Trek lists. DiscussionOldag07 (talk) 17:47, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]