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Why is the following failing to render in bold?
Acegikmo1 04:18, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Just wondering... should we have a Star Trek stub page? Allyunion 14:14, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)
This article is far too long. It contains more information about TOS, TNG, DS9, and VOY than their individual pages do. I think a lot of information needs to be moved out of this article and into the pages about each specific series, but I'm not sure how to determine what should still remain here. Any ideas? - Brian Kendig 18:03, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I've taken the first step by merging the TOS section into Star Trek: The Original Series. I intend to work on merging data from here into the other series' articles as soon as I get a chance. I figure this Star Trek article has enough to do, summarizing the planets, characters, comics, undeveloped series, novels, fan fiction, pop culture, and future of the franchise; it doesn't need to duplicate too much info about the individual series. Though I'd still like to have more than just a link to the series articles - what do you think belongs here from 'em? - Brian Kendig 17:05, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I changed the "Star Trek: The Next Generation" and "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine" headers into links, that link to their obvious own section. It had already been done for Enterprise and Voyager, so I didn't see a reason for them not to be done. If TOS and the animated series have their own sections, I suggest doing it there too, for consistency. Spinboy 16:50, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)
wp WP:MOS
A thought came to me when I was exploring the Wikipedia and I ran into the World War III article. Is there some kind of Star Trek timeline or something regarding the events of the future in some kind of outline or something? Star Trek's history with the 20th century is slightly different from the actual history of our own. Perhaps it may be worthly to create an entry on the subject regarding the difference between actual history and Star Trek's fictional history -- along with any jumps and visits in time that should be included... obviously, the top of the page would require a spoiler warning. Kind of like a timeline of all the shows in a brief summary, using Stardates and real dates (whenever possible). --Allyunion 10:38, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I noticed on the TAS page it states that Gene Roddenberry also requested soon before his death that the series not be considered canon Can this be supported with evidence? Mysteronald 23:24, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)
The article Spot (Star Trek) is currently up for VfD. Please see the VfD Discussion page to either help keep or delete the page. --[[User:Allyunion|AllyUnion (Talk)]] 06:03, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
It's entirely possible that they have inserted the "kiss shown" version in newer broadcasts of the show. But the original broadcast had it blocked, according to the IMDB and other sources I've read. But I WAS wrong; I said it was Kirk's head, it was actually Uhura's. Relevant passages from the IMDB:
They could be wrong. --Golbez 14:36, Sep 10, 2004 (UTC)
Just started the above page. Please leave your comments at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Star Trek.--StAkAr Karnak 03:00, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
What happened here? All that's left is one line saying "You can't have Star Trek without the science." That's pretty useless on its own -- has something been cut that shouldn't have been? 23skidoo 17:04, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Hi - I'm agreeing with the post directly above. The sentence below is just nonsense and I'll remove it after checking back in a bit. I would like to to note that in terms either of technology or science, star trek is rather silly. I really do defy anyone to dispute that. Perhaps that is what the person who wrote that sentence was trying to say? In which case, I would disagree. We all like star trek because it portrays a vision of the future in which everyone tris to be the best person that they can; with cool spaceships to help them! Thats why they call it a fantasy!
Star Trek Science
Any decent Star Trek fan should know that even with technology you wouldn't get Star Trek without the science.
Do we have permission to use the images that are in this article? They all seem to be a giant copyvio to me. Spinboy 18:12, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I removed this section from the article:
The above is not written in an encyclopedic manner. It suggests a POV, and doesn't really say anything coeherent. I believe there is a place for a technology section, (even a whole separate article), but the above is not a good way to go about it. This is a wikipedia featured article, and I think we need to strive for a certain level of encyclopedic quality and NPOV. func(talk) 19:20, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)
This is the last paragraph from the section on Enterprise. It seemed a bit one-sided and POV to me, so I altered it a bit.
From: Enterprise is highly unpopular with many diehard fans, due to its blatant disregard for continuity or adherence to the technical/physical limitations put into place by previous Star Trek series/movies. This has improved somewhat with Manny Coto coming in as co-executive producer, but the series' poor reputation still seems to stifle ratings.
To: Enterprise has been highly unpopular with many diehard fans, due to their perception of blatant disregard for continuity or adherence to the technical and physical limitations put into place by previous Star Trek series and movies in the current series. This situation has improved somewhat with Manny Coto coming in as co-executive producer, but the series' poor reputation with these fans still continues to stifle ratings. Ttownfeen 11:12, Dec 15, 2004 (UTC)
Currently there are a lot of missing images on the Star Trek page, which is a bad thing, esspecially for a featured article. I think this needs to be fixed but I don't know which image were used, does anyone still have them in their cause or does the original author still has them on his computer? Switcher 01:03, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I've seen some other articles with missing images, too... are images being deleted? I wasn't aware that an image could be removed without a trace, without even history to tell what happened to it... - Brian Kendig 13:56, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)
If anyone cares to try to write a letter to Paramount for exclusive rights (of images) on the Wikipedia, write to:
Paramount Studios 5555 Melrose Avenue Hollywood, CA 90038
-- AllyUnion (talk) 07:49, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
The images are still missing. Aren't images of Star Trek spaceships covered under fair use? I can't believe that we'd be disallowed from showing the image of any Star Trek ship. Additionally, why were some images removed from the article, but others weren't? And what prompted the images to be removed in the first place - did Paramount complain, or did a Wikipedian take the law into his own hands? - Brian Kendig 14:51, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
This talk page appears to have somehow gotten its sections duplicated: section edits aren't getting put where you'd expect, among other things. I don't consider myself competent enough (or awake enough :-) to fix it without losing data... but I think someone probably ought to. --Baylink 03:45, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I totally disagree with saying that some fans consider Star Trek: Voyager the weakest of the Star Trek seies. I am a scientist, and I feel that Voyager has the best science writing in all the Star Treks.
It strikes me as more than a bit silly that someone just added an entire paragraph explaining that Star Trek didn't show homosexual characters. By this standard, every single work of fiction that doesn't have homosexual characters needs a special paragraph. And, while we're at it, a special one noting the lack of american indians, born again christians, et cetera.
Or, more rationally, perhaps such things should only be given a full paragraph there's actually something special to be said about it, or where it's relevent to the subject of the article directly. I vote for either deleting it, or cutting it down to a short mention in the "diversity" paragraph. Stands out as a PoV commentary right now, perhaps by some self-involved contributor. Kaz 02:38, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)
While I have never seen hints towards homosexuality in Star Trek canon, I have seen it in books. Two examples:
193.167.132.66 07:35, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Would the anonymous user who keeps removing Wikilinks for Manny Coto and other topics please stop doing so? There aren't any articles on these subjects yet, but we are still supposed to make links to that when someone does write an article, they will already be linked. Please refer to Wikipedia policy. Thanks. 23skidoo 20:20, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Hmm... I don't see this around... -- AllyUnion (talk) 12:35, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I'm fairly new to wiki editing, so I don't want to step on any toes with any of the "usual" editors for this page... A few thoughts on the article layout that I'd like to run by anyone who's listening: Even though the 32k limit is obviously not a hard-and-fast rule, the article size is becoming a bit awkward for dial-up connections like my own, and doubly so when editing. Of course, you don't want to remove anything arbitrarily for size reasons alone, so I have a few suggestions that I think make sense:
Again, not trying to push anyone's buttons, just trying to make a few helpful suggestions. ;-) Roger McCoy 09:24, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Before we get a revert "war" happening in the Voyager section, I've put back the statement that fans felt Voyager was weaker than its predecessors a couple of times after the statement has been deleted. The fact Voyager is not as popular as the shows before it is not a POV statement, and is balanced out by the statement the show has its supporters. IMO if this line is cut, then the remaining paragraph regarding Enterprise being controversial needs to be cut as well. I have changed the Voyager statement by removing the word "any" which may have been interpreted as POV. If the consensus is to remove it, I'm fine with that so long as the paragraph about ENT being controversial is also removed, which it could easily be considering it (like most of the material I edited out a couple days ago) is already covered in the main article. 23skidoo 14:21, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Perhaps some reasons could be given for why people believe that Voyager is or isn't the weakest series. In my opinion, Voyager suffers badly from:
Josquius, what are some reasons you believe Voyager was the best series? - Brian Kendig 19:24, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
For Voyager being best its too late for me to go into it, I'll put them here on another day. It is mostly just a case of personal enjoyment, its the one which entertained me the most. TOS is terrible without having grew up with it, TNG is a bit boring with not much happening, DS9 goes between even more boring then TNG and one of the greatest things ever and Enterprise is a bit too much on 'T'pol, strip down to your underpants please'--Josquius 21:35, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
If you want to say that some fans think this or some fans think that, you need to include sources.Avoid weasel terms AlistairMcMillan 07:20, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I don't really think we need the disputed comments in this article, because (as others point out) the issues are covered on the actual series pages. However a simple way to cite the popularity would be to just cite the ratings. AlistairMcMillan 09:00, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)
You can't dispute the fact that Voyager had really weak ratings compared to TNG or DS9. Voyager unlike the other shows was full of plot holes and technobabble. It was even in danger of being cancelled until the magic of big breasts saved it. TNG and DS9 never sufferd that fate. Voyager was the beginning of the end for Star Trek. Furious Stormrage 19:31, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
UPN had about a 65%(?) coverage of USA so the possible audience was smaller then TNG and DS9 had but that doesn't excuse it. TNG was started to lose it's mainstream audience at season 6 and DS9 was losing it from the start. The diffrenece was that these shows weren't losing them at the rate that Voyager did. The highest rated episode voyager had was Caretaker. After that the audience just went away in droves. The limited exposure doesn't matter when your losing the audience you already have. Furious Stormrage
I completely rewrote the fan fiction part of the page. My computer was acting up, and admittedly the first couple of edits were sloppy. I cut out a lot of material so I would not unduly cover one section, but some of the stuff could be put back into it. I put the original paragraph here. (Removed 7-27) Oldag07 (talk) 18:05, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
I am not sure what is up with Wikipedia today. Previews aren't showing the whole text. It is extremely hard to edit like this. Moreover, Wikipedia isn't signing properly.
I removed the paragraph above because it was causing weird formatting errors on this page. The Star Trek fan productions page did not have a Axanar section, so I basically copy/pasted the same paragraph onto that page. . . It isn't going away, it is just moved to a different page. I am going to try to merge what I wrote with the existing stuff. I really think the phase 2 and the axanar stuff needs to get a major trim. . . . Oldag07 (talk) 18:05, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
How long is this page expected to be semi-protected? Surely not indefinitely, that seems like overkill. Isn't the typical length six months or something?
There should be a specific sub-section under Cultural impacts for Technology that was inspired by Trek. They are scattered among the Trek articles in wikipedia, but it's an important part of Trek's legacy. Things like the cell phone, tricorders, iPads, etc.
Surely this is at least an important a category as magazines, which does have its own subsection? 75.17.118.247 (talk) 01:50, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
Erm, Star Trek: Axanar redirects here, but is not mentioned in the article. 78.35.193.39 (talk) 00:29, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
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I notice a grammatically ill-formed sentence, i.e. "Moreover, the show is noted for its progressive for its era civil rights stances", which perhaps should be "Moreover, the show is noted for its progressive civil rights stances." Sam Joseph (talk) 21:00, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
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There is a Finnish parody series called Star Wreck. It has become somewhat notorious in Finland--92.114.148.141 (talk) 07:03, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
Reading the articles of Religion in Star Wars and Religion in The X-Files, gave me the idea for Religion in Star Trek. It could also be called Philosophy and Religion in Star Trek as the case with the SW article. Is anyone here up for starting it? I could contribute.--Nadirali نادرالی (talk) 02:56, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
You mean as a guide or as a source? They could help in digging out topics, but a bad idea for references as per WP:RS--Nadirali نادرالی (talk) 06:19, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
Guide of course. . . Oldag07 (talk) 13:01, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
Oldag07 that seems like a good idea. If you create one, I'd be happy to help fill it up.--Nadirali نادرالی (talk) 20:01, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
Oldag07 that is because they are low in quantity, not in quality. Religion is also less discussed in The X-Files and Star Wars universes. Most of the discussion is outside of the universes; wheras we see more of it in Star Trek such as the Vulcans and Klingons. They celebrate religious holidays and commitments and many other planets where new religions are found. Such an article could be much bigger, not to suggest the SW and X-Files articles can't be expanded. I'm unfortunately busy working on other SW pages and can't create any articles for the time being, but can contribute on and off as I did when I created or expanded SW. It happens in several goes. The memory alpha article could be used as an external link.--Nadirali نادرالی (talk) 03:48, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
The link for the official website needs to be fixed. Here is the URL: http://www.startrek.com/
Naf140230 (talk) 17:55, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
I created the Philosophy and religion in Star Trek article. Please help in improving it. There's plenty of sources for this. I even added a friendly search template in the talk page to help dig out sources.--Nadirali نادرالی (talk) 02:03, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
I wanted to include a short comment about Kes (from Star Trek: Voyager) in the ‘Conception and setting’ section as I believe this character is of special note even though she was not a major character in the Star Trek universe. SonOfThornhill undid my first edit (7 March) in this regard on the grounds that it over emphasized a secondary character, but a secondary character can represent a key theme better than some primary characters, while it is entirely appropriate to mention such a character when touching on this theme.
The theme being the humane values that underpin Star Trek. The second paragraph in the ‘Conception and setting’ section touches on this theme by noting that Starfleet is a “humanitarian and peacekeeping armada”, with the protagonists having “altruistic values”. I thought it appropriate to add a comment after this which states that Kes best embodies these values, by virtue of her short lifespan (nine years) and humanity, in keeping with her role as a medical assistant and her compassion for the other characters, notably The Doctor who was treated like a piece of furniture by other crew members until her intervention.
Minor or secondary characters can have a substantial role or impact, as when they act as narrators for events that occurred previously, such as Banquo’s ghost in Macbeth, or support the central theme as did the Boo Radley character in To Kill a Mockingbird. Boo had a substantial impact despite rarely appearing and minimal mention. His imposing appearance (tall with a jagged scar on his face, bad teeth, popping eyes and tendency to drool) seemed to confirm the negative stereotype of the ‘dangerous black man’, but once the conclusion is reached you know he is important to the story’s theme, and that without him the children would have been without his protection and an important lesson. That lesson is that most people similar to Boo are (like Boo himself) nice, once you get to know them. This supported the central theme of overcoming racial prejudice after a black man (Tom Robison) is accused of raping a white girl and this accusation is readily accepted by most whites due to negative stereotypes about black men, until his white lawyer (Atticus Finch) reveals the truth about the crime and the bigotry of people who jump to conclusions about black men accused of crimes.
Kes was not merely a memorable minor character like Serge, the desk attendant at the art gallery in Beverly Hills Cop, who had an effeminate manner and strange foreign accent (based on an the accent of an Israeli that the actor who played this role had once met). Serge was funny and amused us for a moment but was not important to the story and did not represent any underlying themes other than the desire to entertain the audience. In stark contrast, Kes was a regular member of Voyager’s crew from 1995 until the second episode of the fourth season, albeit in support of the primary characters. Kes was important to Star Trek as were all the other medical personnel in this franchise (beginning with Bones in TOS) by highlighting the importance of caring for the wellbeing of others; but Kes stands out due to her short lifespan (all the more so in contrast to The Doctor she worked with who was effectively immortal as he was a holographic projection of a computer program) and being the most caring cast member in any Star Trek series (as is apparent to anyone who saw all of them) which gave her an angelic quality that no other cast member possessed, which was accentuated by her deep voice that has an otherworldly feel about it which has to heard to be appreciated.
Thus Kes is more akin to Boo than the entertaining but disposable Serge, as her character (better than any other) represents the humane theme that underpins Star Trek. That said, my first edit was lazy as it merely repeated some information from the Kes page and failed to mention that she was a medical assistant; thus I modified my edit to the following: “The medical assistant Kes in Voyager best embodies the humane theme that underpins Star Trek due to her compassionate nature and short lifespan which reminds us of the fragility of life and the importance of loving relationships.” People who want to find out more about this character can visit the Kes page which describes her role in Voyager in detail, though one has to watch Voyager to fully appreciate my point. My edit may come across a tad ‘touchy feely’ to some (if less so than my original edit), but that is the nature of this theme, while we should not avoid any mention of this theme because doing so makes us a little uncomfortable as it needs to be noted. I hope this is acceptable to other editors and welcome any feedback. - Ocampa1 (talk) 08:14, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
I want to thank SonOfThornhill and Tomwsulcer for their comments. Upon reflection SonOfThornhill is right that I put too much emphasis on the Kes character so thought it best to state that the medical personnel best embody the humane theme that underpins Star Trek and add that Kes is the most notable example to supplement this self-evident fact. Thus the emphasis is righty moved from Kes to medical personnel in general. The edit and source are as follows.
The medical personnel in Star Trek best embody the humane values that underpin this franchise, notably Kes in Voyager due to her short lifespan and humanity.[source]
[source] Lutz, Richard (February 2016). "Social Cohesiveness" (http://hrc-australia.org/info/socialcohesiveness.pdf). Human Rights Coalition (Australia). Retrieved March 18, 2016.
I did not use a direct quote from the source as it would have been unnecessarily long and include a reference to the actress who played Kes (Jennifer Lien) that was not needed in this context. I kept it as short as possible, while people who want to know more can visit the page about Kes and the source. I hope this is acceptable to editors. Please let me now if you have any concerns. - Ocampa1 (talk) 03:21, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
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Please remove
The canonicity of Star Trek: The Animated Series is debated
because according to the Cannon issues section of the article for The Animated Series, and I quote:
On June 27, 2007, Star Trek's official site incorporated information from The Animated Series into its library section, clarifying, finally, that the animated series is part of the Star Trek canon. Both David Gerrold and D.C. Fontana have stated that the animated series is essentially the fourth season that fans wanted originally.
Also, the Animated Series section itself of the main Star Trek article clearly states, and I quote:
and as of June 2007, the Animated Series has references in the library section of the official Startrek.com web site.
So, it's quite clear that ST:TAS IS, without a shadow of a doubt, Star Trek canon. 76.235.248.47 (talk) 02:16, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
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Just so people are aware, there's a draft for an outline of Star Trek at Draft:Outline of Star Trek. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 23:00, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
A discussion about renaming the "reboot series" the "Kelvin timeline series" has been made at here. Please add your input. Oldag07 (talk) 12:58, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
There is a minor typo in the line: Episodes will also be availablle on Netflix within 24 hours of their U.S. premieres.
The word "available" is misspelled.
That is all! — Preceding unsigned comment added by KeithTParker (talk • contribs) .
Many Star Trek characters have full names that have only been revealed in the novels and comic books.
Spock's full name is S'chn T'gai Spock.
Sarek's full name is S'chn T'gai Sarek.
McCoy's full name is Leonard Horatio McCoy (also called Leonard Edward McCoy).
Sulu's full name is Hikaru Kato Sulu (also called Itaka Sulu).
M'Ress's full name is Shiboline M'Ress.
Riker's full name is William Thomas Thelonius Riker.
Janeway's full name is Kathryn M. Janeway.
Should these be added to the relevant articles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.174.166.224 (talk) 13:36, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
Does Wikipedia actually have a canon policy regarding content? 110.174.166.224 (talk) 14:09, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
Maybe add that the original star trek tv show was shown two days ahead of the NBC date on CTV in canada? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.122.197.250 (talk) 02:54, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
Two adjustments made due to the push back of Star Trek: Discovery's premier from January 2017 to May 2017.
Located in the second large paragraph. Change "A new Star Trek TV series, titled Star Trek: Discovery, will premiere in January 2017 on the digital platform CBS All Access." to "A new Star Trek TV series, titled Star Trek: Discovery, will premiere in May 2017 on the digital platform CBS All Access."
Adjustment to the timeline graph. Change the Discovery grey marker bar to be more in the middle of the 2017 column than the beginning as the show is now premiering in May instead of January.
Located at the end of the '2009 Reboot' paragraph. Change "Star Trek will return to subscription-television in January 2017." to "Star Trek will return to subscription-television in May 2017."
Located in the "Discovery beginning 2017" paragraph. Change "On November 2, 2015, it was announced that a new Star Trek TV series is in development by Bryan Fuller and Alex Kurtzman. The new series will premiere on CBS All Access in January 2017." Friday, to "On November 2, 2015, it was announced that a new Star Trek TV series is in development by Bryan Fuller and Alex Kurtzman. The new series will premiere on CBS All Access in May 2017."
Cited source for changes:
http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/star-trek-discovery-good-wife-spinoff-cbs-all-access-premiere-date-1201860613/
Drscifi (talk) 20:10, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
"SAG Award for Best Portrayal of an American Scene Feb 24, 1996 "The various 'Star Trek' TV series and movies also were recognized for 'outstanding portrayal of the American scene,' although they are set in space with an intergalactic cast of characters. Presenter Jimmy Smits noted that the mix of race and gender in all the casts embodied the American ideal. Actress Magel Barrett, widow of 'Star Trek' creator Gene Roddenberry, said she believes 'Star Trek' can last forever. 'It is our 20th century mythology,' she said."[1]
"The Screen Actors Guild will honor "Star Trek" for 30 years of diversity in casting with the special Outstanding Portrayal of the American Scene Award. Rick Berman, "Star Trek" creator Gene Roddenberry's hand-picked successor, will accept the award during the second annual Screen Actors Guild Awards, being held Feb. 24 at Santa Monica Civic Auditorium for broadcast that same night on NBC"[2]
Getty Images Photo Link http://www.gettyimages.com/license/529500246 Getty Images Video Link (Nichelle Nichols, Majel Barrett-Roddenberry, Eugene "Rod" Roddenberry)http://www.gettyimages.com/license/75709905
References
LinQ TinQ (talk) 19:24, 27 September 2016 (UTC)LinQ TinQ
The sentence in the last paragraph of introduction sounds a bit too mysterious: “The franchise is also noted for its progressive civil rights stances”.[2] What “civil rights stances”? It should be at least briefly specified or properly referenced. If you check the reference #2 – you will not find it there.
What I have learned is that Star Trek characters are living in communist-like society: no money, no state, etc. I think that this fact is interesting, educative and important. I propose to include the following sentence: “It has been suggested that Star Trek society resembles communism”, with the following references: a) article by T. Warstall “Star Trek Economics Is Just True Communism Arriving”, Forbes, 2015, October 5; b) book by G. Ermak “Communism: The Great Misunderstanding”, 2016.
What do you think?
Prosto aneg (talk) 16:14, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
Dear Mlpearc,
Why do you say "one person with an opinion"? It seems unreasonable. You can see there two credible literature references, and many more could be found - this is opinion of many people. Would you like more references?
As for "It has been suggested", it can be modified to, for example, "It has been concluded".
Prosto aneg (talk) 21:23, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
I agree and guess that we have consensus. This information (one sentence) has been incorporated into Cultural Impact section. Prosto aneg (talk) 21:53, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
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Add note that Fan Film series or features have been seriously restricted as of June 2016.
Cite source: http://www.startrek.com/fan-films http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/paramount-cbs-establish-star-trek-fan-film-guidelines-20160624 Gavuain (talk) 19:06, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
It now begins with "Print publications". That seems odd. Star Trek began on TV so the TV series should go first, then the films and then Print. This order would give proper weight to each element of the franchise. SonOfThornhill (talk) 00:30, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
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I would have to disagree with the changes that Mitchumch has made to the lead paragraph.
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Star Trek is an American science fiction and entertainment franchise based on the television series created by Gene Roddenberry. The first television series, simply called Star Trek and now referred to as The Original Series, debuted in 1966 and aired for three seasons on the television network NBC. It followed the interstellar adventures of Captain James T. Kirk (William Shatner) and his crew aboard the starship USS Enterprise, a space exploration vessel, built by the interstellar federal republic United Federation of Planets in the twenty-third century. The Star Trek canon of the franchise include The Original Series, an animated series, four television series, the Star Trek film franchise and an upcoming television series scheduled to debut in 2017.
Revision before the major changes.
Star Trek is an American science fiction entertainment franchise created by Gene Roddenberry and owned by CBS and Paramount Pictures.[Note 1] The television series Star Trek: The Original Series, Star Trek: The Animated Series,[Note 2] Star Trek: The Next Generation, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, Star Trek: Voyager, Star Trek: Enterprise, Star Trek: Discovery as well as the Star Trek film franchise make up the franchise's canon.
I personally don't like the new revisions, and I do not believe they fit with WP:LEAD. I feel the lead paragraph puts an undue weight on what the original series is about. I do feel a sentence describing the setting of the the whole series might be an approprate compromise.Oldag07 (talk) 04:47, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
"Star Trek" is the name of the original series. It is understandable to refer colloquially to the entire franchise as "Star Trek," but first and foremost, "Star Trek" is the name of the original series, end of story. Kubrickrules (talk) 08:59, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
Majel Barrett is listed is a Co-Star under TOS and TAS, however she was also a guest in TNG,DS9 as Lwaxana Troi. Voyager and Enterprise as the voice of the Computer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.149.130.137 (talk) 02:25, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
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the character John Billingsly plays is Dr. Phlox, not phlox. This link currently directs to the fauna, phlox Achurley42 (talk) 19:04, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
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Section 3.8 should read An untitled series was announced on August 4, 2018 which will see Patrick Stewart reprise his role
Not respire. 32.210.194.134 (talk) 17:04, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
A whole two hour movie is missing from your article.
How can this be?
Star Trek - Starfleet Academy (1997)
Starring: William Shatner, Walter Koenig, George Takei, and Christopher Plumber,
to name a few...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFjKV9IcGV8
50.70.236.24 (talk) 15:05, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
There is a location missing in the miscellaneous section on the right. Movie Land In Germany- Movie Land in Germany holds an entire Star Trek ride, featuring the bridge of the USS Enterprise 1701D and plenty of memorabilia from TNG and even has a borg on display. Plenty of Startrek merch from all genarations in the shop after the ride. [1] Tecdoug (talk) 01:07, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
Sorry if I do this wrong ... but someone need to fix the errors on the main page re history of Star Trek being inspired by ect ect.
How can you talk about Star Trek an not mention that the show was based on the discovery of Australia by Arther Philip & captain cook, in their ships the Endeavour & the Enterprise ( 1788 )
“The creator of science-fiction series Star Trek was also famously inspired by Captain Cook and his ship, naming his fictional hero James T. Kirk and his spacecraft The Enterprise.
Kirk is the son of an Iowa farmer while Captain Cook was the son of a Yorkshire farmer.
The spoken line in Star Trek's opening credits "... to boldly go where no man has gone before" was inspired by a line in Cook's journal: "... farther than any other man has been before me ... as far as I think it possible for a man to go".”
Again sorry if I mess this post up. I just think it’s an important fact to be included in the main article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.178.27.253 (talk) 10:44, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
The subsection lists is as and untitled series, and then the first word of the text implies that it's titled Picard. Which is it? Babspage (talk) 01:50, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
I have seen it called Star Trek:Picard TexasTechFan1701 (talk) 03:56, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
Please stop making judgements concerning content depth and placement without first seeking consensus. WP:OWNBEHAVIOR Wanderer0 (talk) 20:01, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
Considering the number of new series coming out, maybe we should split the TV series section into a network television section and a streaming section. It might be too early for that, but it probably is a good time to start discussing it. Oldag07 (talk) 13:51, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
Should the infobox list films or television series that are "in development"? I've only seen released products listed in other infoboxes. Mitchumch (talk) 14:33, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
On June 06, Rdzogschen removed reference #104 (book "Communism: The Great Misunderstanding") and wrote: "Work cited is not specific to Star Trek, work cited is synopsized as broadly explaining communism, work cited does not include page numbers to verifiably support claim Star Trek is described as resembling communism. Removed. Please use Talk:Star Trek to discuss." I apologize for not realizing that the reference requires to include specific page number. The page that refers to Star Trek as resembling communism is #8. Please let me know if you would like to restore the reference and insert the page number (#8) or I should do this? Thanks, Prosto aneg (talk) 22:01, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
There's a timeline showing, in our universe, when the series aired and when the movies were out. I'd like to suggest a second timeline, showing about when the stories are set in the Star Trek universe. Such a timeline would place Enterprise before TOS, for example. SlowJog (talk) 00:58, 10 June 2019 (UTC) edited 20:55, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
The cast table is too big, IMHO. And, I fear it has become less informative. How do we improve it? Limit to main cast only? Remove series with no shared actors? We should also ask ourselves: How much of the included detail is only of interest to fans. Rdzogschen (talk) 08:37, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
Recently (over the summer), during various convention panels/appearances/etc, the franchise as a whole was referred to as the Star Trek Universe (ref). Various logos were produced, while an official logo was generated (ref). This franchise as a whole has an official title at this point. Arguably, the title of the page should therefore be Star Trek Universe. Though this name has only debuted with the resurgence of the IP, with appointment of Alex Kurtzman as the 'Head of Star Trek' - it has now, "retroactively", named the massive franchise. Undoubtedly there will probably be naysayers. Thoughts?--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 15:16, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
This article currently suffers from a lot of trivial information, fan-servicing, and fan-page layout. There are many run-on sentences and overall appears to be cluttered. A similar problem was discussed at the Star Wars article several months back. A cleanup effort was made and the page has a clear, concise, and structure appearance now. I would argue that something of a similar nature needs to occur here. I will begin work on this in a 'Sandbox' and share it here, when it finally looks better. It's going to take a very long time given the size of the franchise as a whole.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 15:16, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
To be honest, I am not the strongest of copyeditors. But the second paragraph needs a bit of copyediting. The changes I would make are big, so I figured we should discuss them before I make them.
If no one has any objections, intend to rewrite this paragraph. I wouldn't mind if someone else took a stab at it. Oldag07 (talk) 15:16, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
... for example, the phrase “the Wagon Train” should be changed to simply “Wagon Train”; the article “the” is improperly applied, here.
Okay first of all, why was this moved to 'cleanup' so fast? Secondly, the studio has continuously referred to the franchise as the Star Trek Universe. I am re-opening the discussion, below.... --DisneyMetalhead (talk) 22:40, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
Recently (over the summer), during various convention panels/appearances/etc, the franchise as a whole was referred to as the Star Trek Universe (ref). Various logos were produced, while an official logo was generated (ref). This franchise as a whole has an official title at this point. Arguably, the title of the page should therefore be Star Trek Universe. Though this name has only debuted with the resurgence of the IP, with appointment of Alex Kurtzman as the 'Head of Star Trek' - it has now, "retroactively", named the massive franchise. Undoubtedly there will probably be naysayers. Thoughts?--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 15:16, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
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Within "Enterprise (2001–2005)"
Change "Dominic Keating as Malcolm Reed" (links to an Australian footballer), to "Dominic Keating as Malcolm Reed" Burnt micah (talk) 00:53, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Shouldn’t Pamelyn Ferdin , who would go on to be a big child star, such as the original Lucy of Peanuts, not be included as a guest on the episode ‘And the Children Shall Lead’? Vin720 (talk) 17:51, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
As Discovery, Picard, and Short Treks aren't presented on television, they're not exactly television products are they? Isn't it about time this article got a web series section? 199.66.66.136 (talk) 07:44, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
I don't think this is controversial, but I figured I would mention this redirect here Talk:Lower_Decks#Requested_move_6_August_2020 Oldag07 (talk) 14:38, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
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ADD Actor "Aron Eisenberg"(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aron_Eisenberg) as recurring role "Nog" in Deep Space Nine, and Guest character "Kar" in Voyager
Actually: NOG could be considered a MAIN character if Jake Sisko is also a main. Many recurring but vital characters are missing from the table that were vital to DS9. The Grand Nagus / Gul Dukat / Kai Winn / Chancellor Gowron are just top of mind.
HansDeLeenheer (talk) 14:28, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
Whether someone is a "main" character depends on whether they get opening-credits billing, not how many episodes they appear in or how vital they are to the story. AJD (talk) 14:56, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
I am thinking about creating a Shared Cast in Star Trek template and moving the shared class section into that page. Then I could use the same shared cast section on this page, Star Trek crossovers. I thought about also added this chart to List of Star Trek production staff but it seems like the more appropriate thing would be to remove the cast section of that page and to add that to the shared cast section as well. Thoughts Oldag07 (talk) 18:39, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
Do we spin this section off or not? Oldag07 (talk) 22:41, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
"Netflix distributes the series worldwide, except for Canada." This sentence is inaccurate- Discovery is not on Netflix in the United States either. Prcc27 (talk) 08:49, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
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For the TOS cast members section, a regular bridge crew memeber was Yeoman Janice Rand, played by Grace Lee Whitney. She was also in 3 of the Feature films, and deserves a mention.
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In the cast members section on TNG, pleace change to "Sir" Patrick Stewart, as he was knighted in 2010 by Queen Elizabeth II for services to drama. The prefix is used with the holder's given name or full name as the proper honorific.
"change Patrick Stewart as Jean-Luc Picard to Sir Patrick Stewart as Jean-Luc Picard" Jat0307 (talk) 16:38, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
Please add Laurence Yep to list of contributing authors in the paragraph about Star Trek PocketBooks. His book was Shadow Lord, published in 1985. JinnieT (talk) 19:25, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
It seems like this wording has been here since 2016.
"Additionally, some contend that the Star Trek society resembles communism."
It seems to have been added with these two edits. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Star_Trek&oldid=745770481 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Star_Trek&oldid=745209708
I am not sure about the first source, but the second source seems to be a valid source. However, the wording does not belong in a section discussing technology. If this phrasing belongs in this article it belongs in the "Conception and setting" section. As for now, I removed it with this edit simply because the phrasing does not flow with the paragraph that it is presently in. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Star_Trek&type=revision&diff=1052472935&oldid=1052398975
It is kind of surprising that a sentence that is so out of place in this article has lasted so long. Whether or not we keep a version of this sentence in this article, this incident suggests that we need some thorough copyediting of this article. Oldag07 (talk) 10:24, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
Here is the paragraph in context:
...Later, the introductory sequence to Star Trek: Enterprise included footage of this shuttle which, along with images of a naval sailing vessel called Enterprise, depicted the advancement of human transportation technology. Additionally, some contend that the Star Trek society resembles communism.[126][127]
Beyond Star Trek's fictional innovations, its contributions to television history included a multicultural and multiracial cast. ...
I am trying to assume good faith. But, I am having difficulties understanding why that sentence was put in that location.
As for if communism belongs on this page, yes, Star Trek portrays a society that is similar to Karl Marx's original vision of communism. However, the word communism has connotations that don't match Marx's original vision. Most of the countries that have called themselves "communist" have been brutal totalitarian dictatorships. The largest country that calls itself "communist", China, has adopted an economic system that could be described as capitalist. These connotations matter. As such, if you were to base the word communism on the totalitarian dictatorship definition of communism, then Star Trek advocates the opposite. Note, that Marjorie Taylor Greene has gone around stating that we are living with "corporate communism" [1].
So, should we discuss how Star Trek portrays a communist society, we should add a lot of addendums. Not just, "Star Trek society resembles communism." For an article that is supposed to be written as a broad overview, do a few sentences talking about how Star Trek is like "communism", but not like "communism" improve this page? Possibly a discussion the topic belongs on a "Philosophy of Star Trek" page but not here. If I am assuming good faith, the sentence wasn't put on this page with much thought. That is not a reason to keep the sentence. However, if I don't assume good faith, which there seems to be a lot of evidence for that, one could argue this was put there as a way to put something inflammatory about Star Trek on its Wikipedia page. Thus that sentence definitely doesn't belong here. Oldag07 (talk) 23:36, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
I got voted down the last time I tried to spin the shared cast section. The list, especially with all the new characters coming is a bit unwieldy and slow to edit even with the source editor. The page as of this posting is 162,780 bytes. Looking at WP:SPLIT, pages that are "> 100kB/100,000 chars" should "Almost certainly should be divided". I can imagine when reading this article, that people will see the chart and move on to a different article. Is it more important to know which actor played Spock in which series, or is more important that readers read about the real-world cultural impact of Star Trek?
I still advocate splitting the page off. However, for now, I put the table in a collapsable box. And I moved the section to the bottom of the article. Oldag07 (talk) 17:59, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
@Phlip2005: Basic google search
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In section "The Original Series Era" Add note that Desilu Productions was owned and managed at the time by Lucille Ball. If you are not aware that Desilu was Ball's studio it would be easy to overlook how one of the most powerful women in Hollywood at the time helped make Star Trek a reality. Bonnysweetrobin (talk) 21:23, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
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"change Star Trek: Strange New Worlds will be released in 2022 to Star Trek: Strange New Worlds was released on May 5th, 2022" . Also the corrected sentence should be moved down in the paragraph to make it chronologically correct. 2601:484:C200:B27:C0DE:D669:E84A:1B5 (talk) 06:27, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
This topic has come up previously, but I would once again like to question why we are not calling this franchise by it's current name (i.e.: Star Trek Universe). It has been titled this by the distribution/owning company. As it is categorized/listed as such in various reliable articles, and categorized as such by the company that owns the IP, for what reasons have we continued to ignore it?--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 03:40, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
Some people (especially non-fans) call it a franchise. others (many fans) find the term franchise denigrating and offensive. Please stop using it where other words will work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jvol (talk • contribs) 01:27, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
If the following can be confirmed, it could be added to the Cultural Impact section:-
Apparently, when Star Trek was first aired in 1966, the use of the split infinitive in the phrase "to boldly go where no man has gone before" was regarded as bad English Grammar. The correct wording at that time should have been "to go boldly where no man has gone before". However, during the course of time, the phrase was repeated so many times over the years that by the end of the 20th century, the use of the split infinitive became acceptable in English Grammar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.244.210.117 (talk • contribs)
Re-posting this here as have not got any responses over at List of Star Trek films and the same questions apply here:
I am assuming that the coloured lines we are using in the film table have been around for a long time but was wondering if anyone knows the decision making behind them? I personally feel that if there is going to be coloured lines used to differentiate the sub-franchises then yellow for TOS and blue for TNG would make more sense, but I also know that we tend to avoid using colours like this for film articles. If no one knows how these colours came to be then I would recommend we remove them or have a discussion about using more logical colours and in a more consistent way. - adamstom97 (talk) 05:45, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
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Remove Short Treks and Very Short Treks from the table in the Television Series section, and add them to a new table in the Television Shorts section. McEngland (talk) 23:01, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
The audio version of this article is from January 2010! Someone needs to update this as soon as possible - so much has changed since then. MisterZed (talk) 11:13, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
History sections are particularly difficult to write on wikipedia, especially with a subject that is being changed constantly. There seems to be a lot of speculation in the final section. Sourced correctly, the section seems a bit bloated. I think we can trim out these sections completely. They seem speculative...
"The service's Executive Vice President of Development and Programming, Julie McNamara, said they were unlikely to expand the slate of Star Trek series until one of these five shows ended, which could happen when a series' story runs its course or a lead actor's contract expires. McNamara hoped to release a new season of Star Trek each quarter. Discussing the next phase of the franchise, Kurtzman said several projects were in development. He feels there would be opportunities for future series to be associated to other Paramount Global brands such as BET and Showtime, similar to Prodigy being developed for Nickelodeon. Monthly meetings with the showrunners of each new series are held to allow coordination between the different series and ensure that "they're not stepping on each other's toes" by using the same elements of the universe, according to Kurtzman."
"In October 2020, Kurtzman stated that Star Trek series have been planned through 2027. Kurtzman cautioned that this was a preliminary plan, but it was necessary to plan so far out due to the long production schedules for each series." Oldag07 (talk) 17:17, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
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