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ATTENTION EDITORS: There have been several edits in the past couple of months to these sections that contain unsoruced material that are basically episode plot summaries used to defend one position or the other. Please remember that Wikipedia policy is to cite your sources and that for a work of art like a television show the work itself cannot be the source. Information contained in these sections should be restrained to verifiable third party information like a critical review of the show or a direct quote from a writer/creator. --malber 18:20, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
The comment about a cartoon network employee saying its Tim Drake, in context, was reffering to the current comic run, not the animated series. It should be removed. -SA-
"Teen Titans producer Glen Murakami has stated in various interviews that although he originally intended for this Robin to be Dick Grayson, the animated Teen Titans Robin actually has no secret identity. " Bullcrap, they just messed up and wanted to cover their arse. Other than that, there is an episode where a robin from an alternate dimension comes to help robin because he broke his arm. This alternate dimensional characters name is Dick Grayson. However in the show the character changes it's name to lefty or something with the letter L. --Cyberman 03:06, July 26, 2005 (UTC)
Can we please get over this issue? I'm satisfied with the comment by the series producer that the there is no intent to have a "secret identity" for the characters. If you want to have a debate about character secret identities and want to point out specific episodes where there is a hint of an identity, then please move it to a fan based forum. My opinion is that any reference to a character's secret identity is meant as an inside joke by the writers. --malber 16:50, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
I think the only reason this is a question is because if it's supposed to be something that happens after BTAS, it must be Tim Drake, but most would argue this takes place wholly in another universe, especially since Batman is nowhere to be seen.
Two more hints that it might be Dick Grayson: 1) Michael Rosenbaum is going to supply the voice of Kid Flash. On Justice League Unlimited, he does the voice of The Flash who, in the comics, was the third Flash and served as Kid Flash in his teens and was Grayson's best friend; 2) At Comic-Con 2005 a kid (only kids were allowed to ask questions) asked what Robin's real name was. I think it was David Slack who said to watch the "Fractured" episode and pause where he first announces his name as Nosyarg Kcid. Epiphone83 20:32, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
I should also state that I can't put the latter piece of info into the article, as I think it qualifies as "original research."
Batman hasn't made an appearance, but Wayn Enterprises has —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.166.191.228 (talk) 14:31, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
One thing everyone should keep in mind is that Wikipedia is about NPOV and cited sources, not original research. Unless there's a cited source establishing the secret identities of the characters, I think the Murakami quote is sufficient to keep things ambiguous. The show itself cannot be a source, so any hints or inside jokes that have been put in the show are just that, to tease the viewer. --malber 01:05, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
I saw that you deleted by addition to Continuity regarding items revealed in the episode Go. I agree that I should not have phrased it as an episode synopsis, but I believe that information revealed in that episode is important to mention. I'd like to see it included in some form. --echocharlie 01:41, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
This section is yet again growing with uncited speculation. I believe it may be time to reign in here. --malber 01:53, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
I think its pretty stupid how they try and make you think that Robin is not the DC comic Robin. My brother watches some show called "Static Shock", and in the show the character meets Batman and when he does he asks Batman where robin is and Batman tell him that Rocin is with the Teen Titans. 75.57.163.147 01:30, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
I was about to add that, in one of the earlier episodes of Static Shock in which Batman makes a cameo, Virgil asks where Robin is and Batman states he is doing stuff with the Titans. 97.99.25.214 17:40, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
I can't remember the exact episode now, but there is a sequence where Beastboy refers to Robin's older brother and the bad brother. I think it is in the first meeting with Red X. Also in the standard DC continuity Tim Drake has implyed that he might continue the work of Batman, but not under that name. I someone might help me find the episode, because that implies that it is Tim Drake who is Robin. It would at least help the statement the producer made that they dind't aim at a particular Robin, but it is also the clearest hint I have seen.
In the episode 'Fractured' an extradimensional Robin appears, and when he explains his connection to Robin the name Dick Grayson scrolls in the background.
In the episode "X" Beastboy tries to explain how Red X and Robin can be in the same place. On the whiteboard two solutions he presents are "lost brother" and Jason Todd. It might just be an in-joke, but it also implies that Robin is Tim Drake as Dick Grayson quit being Robin Before Jason Todd appeared.
One episode of "Static Shock" (season 2, "The Big Leagues") features Static meeting Batman in the Dick Grayson era. When Static asked "Where's Robin?", Batman responds with, "He's with the Titans now." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:482:8003:87CC:E968:6514:19C9:FD73 (talk) 18:04, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
So it appears likely that the show has been cancelled (though not yet reported on IMDB). It would be nice to have a much more reputable source for this than a fan site. However, CN is notorious for not releasing press reports about canceled shows (see Samurai Jack). I think the sentence on this should be toned down. As it stands right now it seems a bit POV pushing. A show's cancellation, no matter how emotional you are about it, is a factual event that should be reported NPOV.--malber 11:47, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
I think the current season is already an extension and last season was originally intended to be the final one. I could be wrong, however.Epiphone83 20:37, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
When someone went and put Terra in the list of Titans, the editor royally screwed up the tables for those sections. I had to dig deep for the revision, and the cancellation section was missed. This material needs to be reintroduced into the article. --malber 10:55, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
Since the presumed last show date is in the future, and Cartoon Network has not released an official notice on this subject, and that Wikipedia is not a crystal ball I think we should wait on including the information about the show being cancelled. --malber 11:19, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
It's even stated this way in articles as early as this one... [1]--Raltorn 02:16, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Agreed with the above comments by Raltorn. I have spoken directly with members of the production team and can attest to the fact that Wil Wheaton's comments were incorrect and baseless. I have made corrections to the "Cancellation" section to hopefully stop further rumors.
I also edited the sentence "Reports of layoffs at the WB studios may have also contributed to the show's cancellation" because it doesn't make any sense.
TheMagnificentHazo 04:46, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Folks, and fanboys and fangirls, Terra was never a permanent memeber of the Titans. She is, for all intents and purposes, dead. She does not belong in the list of founding Titans. Note that this is also concurrent with the comics storyline. --malber 13:41, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
Ok, I don't think we know that for a fact either. However, why is she under the villains page? Colonel Marksman 22:51, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Someone removed Terra again.
Not to mentioned she's very underused. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.241.135.241 (talk) 19:29, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
I'm inclined to remove the newly added paragraph about this ep, but I'd like some other opinions first. It really doesn't add anything to the discussion on the series' place in continuity (nor could it, as far as I see), and if it were to offer any more detail than it already does (say, to explain HOW it was starfire learned to speak english), we'd be going outside the scope of this article. If there's no opposition in a few days, I'll go ahead and remove it myself. --InShaneee 03:32, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
The episode Go serves as a prequel to the series, showing the first meeting of the main characters. In it, a thief alludes to Robin's mentor, but not by name, and Robin replies that he's working solo now. The episode also reveals several other bits of information. It explains how Starfire knows how to speak English despite being an alien, why Beast Boy stopped wearing his Doom Patrol mask, how Cyborg's Sonic Blaster came to be, and how the Titans chose the site for their tower.
— Unknown, From article
I removed the paragraph, but archived it here. If someone feels that this can be reworked to include in the Continuity section, please do. However, IMO I feel this section does not need more material from the show itself, it needs more verifiable cited sources. It needs a quote from Bruce Timm on the question of crossovers. I feel that the quote from Murakami in the section above implies that the show is outside of and independent from the DCAU continuity, but doesn't state this directly. --malber 10:50, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
The following information was moved from the infobox to here:
--malber 23:36, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
It's called Titans in Tokyo I think [2]--zeldamaster3 13:48, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
It is an ended show check out tv.com. But Teen Titans might be brought back as a diferent show. Like they could change it to Titans go or something. It happend to Justice League.
There is a Teen Titans episode on Batman: The Brave and the Bold called "Sidekicks Assembled" even though they never mentioned the word "Teen Titans". I don't want to spoil it, but I can say that Robin, Speedy and Aqualad are in that episode. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.241.135.241 (talk) 19:33, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
I wish the original Titans came back on I'm not a fan of the teen titans go the characters are creepy and weird looked, use to be the kids and mine favorite but now not at all LeAnn Deniz (talk) 23:35, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
Okay, so I'm curious. Where is Superboy? Isn't he like a huge character in Teen Titans comic books. What about the other heros too in the comic book series? Were there contract issued which prevented Superboy from being in the show?
I've re-added the list of characters and the image. Apostrophe (talk · contribs) has stated the intention of making the article easier for new readers, and there have been some very good edits of fanish material, but I think the paragraph here is redundant to the intro, or that some of this material can be added to the intro. I also think it's dangerous to state that Terra was a main Titan. While it is factually correct, especially considering the source material, in the show she was only there for a few episodes when compared to the bulk of the show. Listing her as a main Titan only invites the fan-kids and the shippers to expand and speculate.
The general guideline for TV shows is to have a list of characters ala IMDB so this is why I readded the list. I also think the FU image of the main cast is an appropriate graphical representation of the cast. Thoughts anyone? -- Malber (talk · contribs) 15:19, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
I think this crap shouldn't be mentioned on other DC - Titan connected pages. Keep it separate from the articles on the REAL DC titles.
Just a heads up, I fixed a syntax error with the Honorary Titans table. It was left open ended, resulting in the info being displayed under the anteceding header, Major Villians. Now that it's fixed, it displayes properly.
Superboy was never a member of the Teen Titans. In any of the DC Universes, Superman was an adult and a member of the Justice League during the existance of the Teen Titans. Superboy was a long time member of the Legion of the Super Heros.Jny 01:25, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Can someone please enter a section, or at least a small paragraph, involving the current and upcoming DVD releases announced for the series? I'd do it myself, but I'm not quite sure where the information should be placed in the article. --Thores, 05:02, 05 April 2006 (UTC)
What seperates Teen Titans from other superhero shows is the fact that the Titans will combine their powers into spectacular maneuvers. Would it be a good idea to add a "Maneuvers" section to this page?
A new game was just recently released based on this series. I was wondering where the proper place for this information would be. 70.119.252.247 19:15, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
According to this website (a very trustworrthy site) http://www.titansgo.net/ it says that the judas contract movie isnt really a spinoff of the tv series but its own movie. it has different character designs —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.85.221.185 (talk • contribs) 21:06, August 4, 2006
A search at TitansGo.net for the words "cancel," "cancelled," and "cancellation" reveals no postings. Titan's Tower's small posting says, "...bad news from the production staff" that Cartoon Network passed on season six. This is not a reliable source. If there is a verifiable citation for a story that contradict's Wheaton's story, please post it with a reference that points to the story. Until then, I'm satisfied with his insider story as he's a frickin member of the cast! -- Malber (talk • contribs) 12:20, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Malber, with all due respect, I really do not think you know what you are talking about. Saying that TitansGo and TitansTower "function on rumors" is completely and blatantly false. Both sites keep an open dialogue and communicate directly with staff members on the show. TitansTower has done multiple interviews with Glen Murakami, David Slack, Rob Hoegee, and Amy Wolfram. I myself have even spoken with members of the production team, who have said without hesitation that Wil Wheaton's account was misguided and untrue. It is perfectly understandable that both sites would hesitate to post a front page update outing Wheaton and giving names of those regular (not guest) staff members who contradicted his story, and I do not think you realize that names are sometimes witheld because of sensitive topics. If you are truly desperate for validation, you may want to check each site's respective forum systems, because Wil's mistake was in fact discussed there.
I think you should relax, because his story is completely false, and by constantly reverting the article you are directly contributing to a perpetuation of misinformation. TheMagnificentHazo 02:22, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Okay, I've added a sentence to emphasize that Wheaton's story is not official. I hope this compromise will be satisfactory. -- Malber (talk • contribs) 20:29, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm inclined to delete this entire section. It's interesting speculation, but I don't think it will ever rise above original research especially now that the show has been cancelled. Thoughts, anyone? -- Malber (talk • contribs) 17:17, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
In response to DarthVader1219's edit summary, "Give me one good reason why a transcript of an IRC chat is less verifiable than a transcript of a podcast?," I can not only provide one, I can provide several.
—Malber (talk • contribs) 15:37, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
This page doesn't talk about Red X, Trident, Puppet Master, and probably some other villains/characters. It looks like people from the earlier seasons are who's missing. - Peregrinefisher 19:00, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Isn't he an Honary Titan? He has a communicator and is frozen by the Brotherhood of Evil. trainra 11:16, 3 December 2006 (UTC)Trainra i agree like who is he red-x like tell me who he is ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vampirekisses100 (talk • contribs) 04:54, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Looking at the history and the current state of the article, somebody has been repeatedly vandalizing the article by replacing it with either vulgar ranting or a fake "Blocked" page. Appreciate it if somebody could look into this. Requesting protection? -Mewarmo990 07:51, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
What the heck happened to these? They used to be nicely formatted with no borders. Now they have borders and…Japanese voice actors? And I've noticed that the Titans list has grown to add ancilliary Titans that were not main characters. I'm going to fix this if there are no major objections. —Malber (talk • contribs • game) 21:19, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Should I be bothered saying that 'Starfire' and 'Blackfire' are both songs on Dragonforce's debut album, 'Valley of the Damned'?Centurion Ry 20:20, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
Jump City is referenced in BATMAN BRAVE AND THE BOLD animated show in the episode AQUAMAN'S OUTRAGEOUS ADVENTURE! as a city on the map and a road sign. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.152.157.71 (talk) 08:11, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
The criticisms of the Monty Python influenced "Revolution" fail to mention that Python was itself British, therefore making the claims from Brits it was "stereotypical" contradictive. Why was this ironic case of hypocrisy removed from the notes?
Dr. R.KZ. 15:40 28th May 2007
Because the Monty Python references are used for a stereotypical effect. The purpose of the reference to Monty Python was supposed to be tribute, but it came across as offensive.
Crablogger 12:57 11 June 2007
The link in note 9 uses a URL that votes "yes" for "was this review helpful?" A substitute should be found that does not force the reader to vote.
JimTS 10:08, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Not that I have a problem with it, but it sounds like it was spoken by an idiot. Maybe it's just because I'm tired, but it seemed to be pretty garbled. Does he just talk weird, or was the tone of voice important to the phrase? Because it almost looks like there's a mistake in it. Maybe not, just putting it out there... Newbliss (talk) 05:47, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
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I may be insane or something, but is there no character list for the titans? Only the minor characters? There should be a list of the Titans in their animated series role, as well as a list of who voices them. If I some how missed it, I apologize.
Maneating Lemon (talk) 00:40, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
According to the article, Robin's real name in a comic was once give as Dick Grayson. What was the context of this revalation? Was it said by another character (who could have been mistaken)? By Robin himself (who could have been protecting his identity)? Or by a naration block that would not lie or be mistaken?
Emperor001 (talk) 14:35, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
well, 1: in "How Long is Forever", Koreand'r (aka Starfire) goes a few years into the future. in the future, Robin calls himself Nightwing, sounds familiar? 2: in some episode, robin's "alter-ego" or whatever you wanna call it, from an other dimension or universe or whatever, visits the Titans;his name is Nosyarg Kcid. what does that spell backwards? Dick Grayson. 3: in some episode, robin has a flashback, Robin performing his oath before Batman while receiving his suit. image from some batman comic long time ago, when robin was Dick Grayson.
also, im probably forgetting something... EDIT: see here http://teentitans.wikia.com/wiki/Robin#Identity as a conclusive answer, in Teen Titans Go! #47, it is revealed that Robin is Dick Grayson.
Divinity76 (talk) 14:38, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
In the episode Apprentice pt. 2 Slade calls Robin his son and Robin says "no I already have a father," then he stares off into the distance and imagines bats flying in a church. Obviusly this is refering to Batman should I put it in the article... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.250.97.95 (talk) 02:52, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
He didn't mean biological father, he meant father figure. 67.172.25.175 (talk) 02:48, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Also, Dick Grayson changes his name to Richard Wayne.
Shadzad (talk) 13:11, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
They are not biological father and son Nomsese (talk) 21:39, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
Raven turned 16 at the end of the... one season. so she was 15 before that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.172.25.175 (talk) 02:50, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Ron Pearlman? NO WAY. That is definetly KELSEY GRAMMER voicing Slade!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.119.153.76 (talk • contribs) 21:14, January 17, 2010
Lets hope that Slade does appear on Batman: The Brave and the Bold. But I doubt that he would be voiced by Ron Perlman since they already chose him to voice Dr Double X. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.241.135.241 (talk) 19:45, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
How come they never revealed Slade's face in this cartoon?? But when I watched Crisis on Two Earths his face is revealed?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.241.135.241 (talk) 19:26, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
O.M.G could somebody tell me why they stop doing teen titans!!! i loved that show it was awesome!can somebody please talk to the producer to start doing teen titans the original again that show was awesome it sucks how they took it away! >:( — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.201.204.60 (talk) 01:09, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
I know right, even I loved that show Nomsese (talk) 21:41, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
Terra isn't a major character. She shouldn't be on the list... No. No. No. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.61.68.3 (talk) 02:31, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
In these edits [3][4] 173.251.126.2, then EvergreenFir, removed content that was speculative in nature. I was going to remove it myself after BU Rob13 restored it, but I had an edit conflict with Evergreen. The bulk of the content is unsourced and contains original research. Asking someone involved in the series what the potential story line of an unlikely next season would be constitutes WP:OR and is entirely speculative. They might have had some ideas of what the next season could have been, but that doesn't make it any more likely or tangible than any other sort of speculation. And no negative comment is intended for BU Rob13. The reversion was sound—the IP didn't explain the removal. I would have done the same thing. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:18, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
I heard that since Teen Titans Go! to the Movies was a success, they were thinking of reviving the 2003 series for one last season. I hope Adult Swim picks up season 6 of Teen Titans (2003). --2601:2C0:C280:21A0:5401:2BD7:4984:1671 (talk) 04:44, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
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