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Isn't "censorship" a bit strong in this particular case? I can understand the desire to emphasize that the intent of the film's creators was compromised by business interests, but insofar as censorship is usually something imposed by an outside insitution (usually the government or the church) for security or moral purposes, I'd say that this should more properly be characterized as a conflict of editorial interests.
I only mention this because the article as it stands takes the strong POV that these cuts were imposed on the filmmakers only after the film was completed, which I find hard to believe. I would imagine that some conflict was obvious even during the planning stage, that the filmmakers knew which scenes were candidates for deletion, and that management, too, decided to view the completed film before ordering the deletion of what they felt was questionanable content. That, of course, is speculation on my part.
Anyway, it's an interesting subject and I wish the article contained a more detailed explanation of the actual process in which these decisions were made.
Spventi 22:33, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
"Censorship" is both very strong (and therefore heavily biased) and, in this case, incorrect, as the actual reworking of the film involved more than just the edits to the negative. Studio-imposed edits to films before their release are not categorized as "censorship" on most other articles or write-ups inside or outside of Wikipedia on other films (most directors do not have "final cut" on their films). To do so here feeds into fan-fueled speculation that Disney executives ruined an "awesome, epic" movie that aren't necessarily supported by reliable sources. Coverage of the revision of Cauldron should be as dry and lacking of a point of view as possible to avoid sounding like a fansite. --FuriousFreddy (talk) 06:22, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
"Another scene cut featured a man being dissolved by mist. [1](http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/2677/cuttbc.gif)" This link no longer seems to work. Is there any version of this animation somewhere else? Rapidflash 04:59, 3 July 2006
In the trivia section, the article claims that Tinkerbell makes a cameo appearance, but I did not see her in the Fairfolk segment at all. Can anyone confirm this? Zekintha 03:37, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
probably worth mentioning this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Cauldron_%28video_game%29) somewhere Pseudo Intellectual (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 23:21, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Aside from the original release date, are there any sources to verify the dates? Especially the one that is supposed to occur this coming August. Also this information is in direct contradiction of the information presented at the beginning of the film legacy section. --Polar33 (talk) 16:52, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
The article mentions that "Adult Copper", described as a hound, is kidnapped. But in the Internet Movie database, a pig is mentioned: "Hen Wen, a magical oracular pig, is kidnapped by an evil lord known as the Horned King." I also remember a pig, not a dog, but much time has passed since. maybe somebody could doublecheck this? Best Regards, Hansi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 145.253.211.143 (talk) 11:49, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
The article lists voice actors for a "Special Edition in 2008," but there are no sources listed and no additional information given on this release. In addition, neither the IMDb nor Amazon.com list any such edition, and the IMDb pages for the voice actors listed do not mention "The Black Cauldron" in any form (either original or special edition). Can we get some sourcing on this? Grammar Cop (talk) 21:17, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
I saw the Black Cauldron in a theater when it was first released in the 1980s. I remember a scene where the witches turn Taran into a frog. He tries to escape as the witches try to catch him. He jumps down the cleavage of the fat witch, and she struggles to get him out. I remember this scene well, because it was so shocking for a Disney film. Parents must have complained, because the scene did not appear in the first TV viewing (on the Disney Channel), VHS, nor DVD. I don't see it on Youtube. Mabey it only exists in Disney archives.75.83.48.125 (talk) 22:42, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
There is a mention in the article that "Princess Eilonwy partially nude as fabric was ripped off of her dress as she is hanging by her hands." While this is perhaps the most intriguing of the legendary deleted scenes, no source is cited for it. Please add source reference. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.238.69.130 (talk) 01:43, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
According to UltimateDisney.com, the new 25th Anniversary Edition of The Black Cauldron will be released on September 14, 2010 as a single-disc DVD and no Blu-Ray. Included are a few bonus features and a deleted scene. Koolz03 (talk) 19:18, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
((editsemiprotected)) I believe that the two movies, "Black Cauldron" and "Return To Oz" were premired at Radio City Music Hall the summer of 1985. There was a live show that was performed for approxamately40 minutes prior to the showing of one of the films. This can be verified by Radio City and the Fact that I worked there.(65.31.173.103 (talk) 04:49, 24 June 2010 (UTC))
Why is this film so obscure compared to most Disney theatrical animated feature films?? Does it have anything to do with having too much evil?? Georgia guy (talk) 17:05, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
In the "Chronicle of Prydain," article there is even longer quote by the author about the film "The Black Cauldron," which you might want to use. Actually what wrote down for Lyodd Alexander write now is incorrect since it be considered putting words into his mouth that he didn't use. You need to copy his quote down word for word in order for it to be deemed correct. Here's an example of what you are doing- The Quote: "I Like to Eat Pie," said Joe."But it's not my favorite. I prefer cake because of the frosting." What's used: In an interview Joe said he prefers Cake and did not think Pie was near good due to the frosting. However he does admit pie is somewhat good.
Now these two sentences are simillar but it would probably be more correct to just use the first one so that it doesn't seem were putting words in the persons mouth. -James Pandora Adams —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.176.168.148 (talk) 03:53, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
This needs some context beyond "predated the more famous". Is the Lucasfilm game widely and wrongly considered to be an important pioneer in this respect? Regardless whether linked articles explain this, it should be briefly stated here. Were there other games, now commonly overlooked, which predated both of the Lucasfilm game and this one?
Does this make the game historically significant, perhaps in a light sense? For example, does it refer to all games played at computer stations? A citation will be welcome and may be necessary on this point.
Depending on the truth of these matters (where i have no clue) and how well they can be explained here, some other articles should link to this section. On the other hand, if it's too important and this is done too well ;-) this becomes its own article. --P64 (talk) 19:27, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
--P64 (talk) 19:27, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
According to the print Encyclopedia of Fantasy, methods used by Ralph Bakshi in The Lord of the Rings (1978 film) were used in Disney, The Black Cauldron.
According to our article on the film, Bakshi used new techniques of animation --not entirely or only rotoscoping per se, iiuc, but it is not likely that I do understand much correctly. Someone with a little expertise (or a reliable source!), who knows both films too, may be able to help this article a lot.
See also my previous comment about what may be historically significant in the video game industry. --P64 (talk) 23:39, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
The link provided for the budget says only that it cost "over $25 million" to make, whereas twice in this article it cites $44 million. Where does that figure come from? Also, the intended meaning of "unadjusted expansive" when this figure is referred to under Release is unclear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Macleod199 (talk • contribs) 18:15, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
There are rumors floating about on the Internet that Disney intended to release Cauldron on VHS sometime around 1989 or 1990, and a video master was created for that purpose, but once The Little Mermaid was released, the studio withdrew those plans. Is there any legitimate evidence to confirm this, or is this just a rumor? Freshh! (talk) 17:43, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
Walt Disney Animation did not change its name to Walt Disney Feature Animation till 1986. You can replace Walt Disney Feature Animation with Walt Disney Pictures. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.21.56.40 (talk) 05:28, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
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Hello, when I look it up on the Internet it seems that I am not the only one who notices some similarities between the characters of this movie and those in the TV show Gummi Bears. But there does not seem an "official" confirmation out there, or a review that explains the relationship. - And maybe this is just a similarity like between Brother Tuck and Balu the Bear, or Mowgli and Christopher Robin (they copied some animated movements). Does anybody know more about this relationship? Kind regards, Ziko (talk) 15:11, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
O Caldeirão Mágico is the Brazilian Portuguese version of The Black Cauldron. The film is scheduled to release in Brazil in 1998 by Abril Vídeo, but unfortunately the release was canceled for unknown reasons. Althrough the brazilian distribution was replaced by Buena Vista Home Entertainment, it was skipped to 1999 or 2000.
The link w/ the article title ""The Black Cauldron" : What Went Wrong" by Jim Hill is broken. Is there anything we can do about it?
Evope (talk) 20:24, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
The page has clearly been vandalized, particularly in the plot section. Winnie the Pooh, Bugs Bunny, Scooby Doo and a plethora of other animated characters mentioned are not used in the film. 24.68.163.191 (talk) 04:33, 21 February 2024 (UTC)