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The photo of the Mexican Foreign Ministry is wrong: it shows the new site of the Foreign Ministry in Avenida Juarez, opposite Parque Alameda, a good two kilometres distant from the old site overlooking the Plaza de las Tres Culturas. I have been a resident of Mexico City for over 6 years.Ocoineagain (talk) 08:05, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
My problem with the article is that it is completely one-sided. All references to the government or the military depict said officials as demons, while references to students depict the protesters as angels. Some Examples:
I'm not trying to defend the PRI or justify the murder of unarmed civilians. We can all acknowledge that massacres are bad and unjust. That being said, this article--as it stands now--is not written in a manner that accurately reports the event without bias. It is filled with emotion and more often than not editorializes the massacre. The article completely fail to capture the influence of the communists, of Emiliano Zapata, or of Ernesto Guevara. My understanding of the event leads me to believe that the crux of the Mexican Government's (PRI's) concern over the protests (from which they based their response) was founded on their concern over this. Why doesn't the article include these concerns? Including such concerns in the article would move it towards unbiased. --Lacarids (talk) 18:45, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
I would think that regardless of your opinion and apparent justification for the murder of unarmed students if they happen to not share your interests or theories on how their country should be ran, the article is sourced and follows the documentation available in Mexico of the event. It is a shame that you do not think that reality accurately matches the event, but that is what happened according to the survivors, and the government accounts have been discredited and relegated to the dustbin of history. Like the government itself which ruled with an Iron fist and uninterrupted since the mexican revolution until recent times.
Perhaps you should read a little bit of history and be open for facts that don't match your political views, or agenda. The concerns of the government about losing its single party hold over Mexico are noted, but can hardly be seen as legitimate any more than Tiannamens massacre can be.
The fact is that a well documented massacre of unarmed civilians for their political views took place just in time to remove them from existence before the Olympic games.
For your convenience, I include a link to a site by rightist newspaper "La Jornada" giving another description of the events (IT is, however in spanish, you can see a tank, nonetheless, which you mentioned you didn't see before, showing perhaps, the lack of thoroughness in your research, or the insuficiency of it: http://www.jornada.unam.mx/2007/10/02/nota2.php http://www.jornada.unam.mx/2007/10/02/Images/nota2-05.jpg
As much as whitewashing the events might be desirable for your particular views, I can say that they don't match the reality of what happened, which has been thoroughly documented by survivors, as well as films.
I would love to see what your understanding of the events is based on beyond rightist propaganda. Some of your comments (specially the one about Oriana Fallaci) plain contradict the facts, re: There were mounds of bodies, and she was shot, several times. Children were shot, as well, which can be easily proven by this picture of a dead child from the aftermath: http://www.jornada.unam.mx/2007/10/02/Images/nota4-02.jpg
Please bother to at least check the sources and facts in the future. 174.3.242.191 (talk) 06:07, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
189.253.83.190 (talk) 00:48, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
I still stand with my position that this page should be merged with the article of Mexico 68. Hell, even this article has more data of the movement itself than the other one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.103.235.33 (talk) 02:08, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
I realize I come to this discussion late. I don't think that this article should be merged with the Mexico 68 article. But it is longer and clearly better on this history of the movement than the supposed main article. In my humble opinion, the Tlatelolco massacre should continue as a separate article, but that the narrative of events leading up to the massacre should be moved to the Mexico 68 article. I started to work on the Mexico 68 article, but I saw that this article covers the basic material extremely well. And I think rather than duplicating the effort, the material should here should be moved to the main article. My two cents. Amuseclio (talk) 19:02, 8 March 2019 (UTC)Amuseclio
El Universal just published an article claiming that the CIA hid several valuable documents regarding this event. It's very complete, and it has several videos of experts and analysts regarding this massacre. Please it out if you want, I highly recommend it.[1] ComputerJA (talk) 18:05, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
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There seems to be a lot of references to "government documents made public since 2000"
"But government documents made public since 2000 suggest that the snipers had been employed by the government. Estimates of the death toll ranged from 30 to 300, with eyewitnesses reporting hundreds dead"[2][3][4][5][6][7]
From a cusory glance, i cant find any direct refrences to these documents and researching the subject i found this article, http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB99/, from 2003 which states:
"Finally, not one document declassified by the U.S. government discusses at any length evidence that government agents operating as snipers from the windows of the Tlatelolco apartment complex may have initiated the massacre of October 2. The Defense Intelligence Agency in particular - which had defense attachés gathering intelligence on the Mexican military at the time - should have produced internal cables, memoranda and analyses discussing the presence of government snipers."
Can anyone find these documents that state the snipers were agents of the mexican govenment? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.71.15.178 (talk) 00:05, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
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Whatever the New York Times may have written in 1968, there is no citation for the claim that $150 million is equivalent to $1 billion (whenever "today" may have been--hardly in 1968!).
Please add proper sourcing, else I will delete at least the second sentence. Please also check the 1968 NYT article, else I will mark it as a doubtful source given the context of improper sourcing--if nobody knows what was written in it, how can we assume that it covers the first sentence? ... Thanks, Ibn Battuta (talk) 13:36, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
I have not read anywhere else that the students were protesting the Olympics. I believe they were protesting a single party government that was targeting University students as reactionaries. Please correct me. 47.149.106.241 (talk) 03:16, 8 March 2022 (UTC)