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All entries relevant to what facts to include or better phrasing. Will try to make that more clear. Thanks.01:44, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
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all Hoary links and comments deleted by Wikipedia Administrators, along with page on Sandra Fluke he was edit warring on209.6.69.227 (talk) 16:11, 14 March 2012 (UTC) Attempt to "out" the editor's identity.--209.6.69.227 (talk) 15:38, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
You asked: "Raven; let me get this straight; you are saying that it isn't the policy that needs to be changed, but it is the religious beliefs THEMSELVES that are the problem and need to be changed. Is that correct?" • No; I expressed and intended no such imperative. I was speaking in the declarative voice, of "IS"s not "SHOULD"s. In logical-set terms, look at the set of all health insurance plans, run for colleges/universities, and for employers. Group in one subset those which cover contraception, and in another subset those which don't. Is there any doubt that overwhelmingly the second subset will pertain to colleges/universities and businesses which are owned by religious groups whose beliefs forbid contraception, and that this will be the reason for the policy exclusion? That is why I said, "'Beliefs' against the use of 'contraception' started the whole issue." That's the point of divergence. But my next sentence was: "As long as patients needing medication are at the mercy of what other people (not their physicians) choose to believe or not believe, such problems should be expected." Ah, there's a "should" -- the corollary being that people needing medication shouldn't be at the mercy of others' beliefs (besides their physicians'); patients' Freedom of Religion matters too, especially when their life and health depend on it. And no church's "Freedom of Religion" should extend to taking other people's away, as by withholding patients' medications against their will. But churches (and people) can believe whatever they will. – •Raven .talk 21:52, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
OK, so people can have whatever religious beliefs they want, they just can't act on them? The essence of a (in this case) Catholic University is being Catholic. It is run by a Religious Order, that specifically caters itself to a population that wishes to foster Catholic ideals and Catholic values. If you don't value those values, you have other choices. There are two complementary parts of the First Amendment (the 230 year old established way of dealing with conflicting interests), the Establishment clause, which says Government will not compel anyone to join a religion, and the Free Exercise clause, that says Religions are free to believe what they will without Government intervention. We are not arguing that the Catholic University should be able to interfere with what people do outside of the campus, but on whether a Catholic University should be forced by the Government to abandon its Catholic principles.--209.6.69.227 (talk) 02:56, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. Seems to be a legitimate communication problem better relegated there than on the article page.--209.6.69.227 (talk) 15:02, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for adding the whole joke , it was something I was also thinking to do the clear problems with a part of the joke, due to selective insertion - Youreallycan 17:51, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
I'm surprised to not see a notice on your page about this. I guess it slipped Goethean's mind...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#Rush_Limbaugh.E2.80.93Sandra_Fluke_controversy - Xcal68 (talk) 04:33, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi, Xcal; Thanks, but also (ironic) Thaaaankks...... Noticed it a few days ago, figured I would let Goethean ramble on, petard hoisting, for as long as I could avoid it. Also not feeding the stalking troll. Fortunately this is among the DUMBEST of Goethean's many DUMB writings, and easy to settle. Will do so immediately. --209.6.69.227 (talk) 14:02, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
BTW, the spam Goethean is protecting all over Wikipedia is a partisan talking point issued by Think Progress. In the middle of the whole RL-SF flap that saw floods of unreliable numbers competing with each other, TP (good acronym) relased a number, 142, of lost sponsors that was 3-5X higher than anyone else's, or about 100 sponsors higher. Looking at THEIR list, the WaPo's self-identified left-leaning columnist, and Daily Kos, de-bunked the number, by pointing out that TP included 98 sponsors that just don't want to advertise on political or racy programs. Sponsors like Hallmark, which would never and has never advertised on Limbaugh, Beck, or for that matter, Maddow, Olberman, or anything Goethean calls a RS. Goethean has spammed every radio program mentioned (on WikiP pages) and the SF-RL page with this NON-FACT and edit warred to keep it up. As you noticed (by ACTUALLY reading the source cited), the edit description is in fact, just the relevant quote from the source cited.--209.6.69.227 (talk) 14:17, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
BTW, the Kos (which I am sure Goethean will now condemn as a Manchurian Republican, just waiting to disagree with TP) article entitled "Rush Limbaugh has not lost 98 advertisers.", three days after the ridiculous post by TP, is here [[2]]--209.6.69.227 (talk) 17:38, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
Now here [[3]] --209.6.69.227 (talk) 21:05, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
From WP:RTP, our guide to refactoring talk pages:
You've changed two section headings that I created at Talk:American Legislative Exchange Council and immediately posted to, and reinstated your preferred wording after I reverted your initial change. I object to the changes, and I'd like you to revert them.
The assumption everyone makes in viewing a talk page is that the editor whose comment first appears beneath the heading is the one who chose its text, so effectively, changing a heading I created gives a false impression of what I posted. For example, your change of the heading I created entitled simply "Protests", to your preferred "Protests - Questionable notability?" merely because you deem them "non-notable", as you put it, gives everyone who reads the section the false impression that I am of your opinion, since my post is the first after the section heading.
Changing a section heading you created, after other editors have already replied beneath it, produces a similar effect, although admittedly not as emphatic. But it, too, is a form of talk page refactoring. Please revert all the changes you've made to headings on that talk page. – OhioStandard (talk) 13:05, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
Just FYI; I am coming to Wikipedia as an editor first, and am a stickler for making clear what and who and why in good expository style. The title you gave initially would not have told a new reader what you were talking about. Re-read it, and agree it may have been more strongly worded than intended. Have reworded, but do not think that I am going to edit war over this. Please feel free to revert to "Protests" if you wish.--209.6.69.227 (talk) 23:11, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
Please don't list old AfD discussions as you did with War on Women at todays log. If you wish to AfD an article then I suggest you read WP:AFD & once you created the deletion then & only then add it to today's log. Regards ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 19:26, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
May have not done this correctly, would appreciate help. Article was AfD, Deleted, then someone reposted, mostly same problems except WP:QUOTEFARM substituted for WP:OR, tagged for Speedy Deletion, declined but with proviso that the decline was just that it was different, no decision on if the problems remain. Several attempts to address problems with edits and on Talk page, no success. Do not know if this is second request or new request. --209.6.69.227 (talk) 19:33, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
I think this is fixed by an admin at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/War on Women (2nd nomination)--209.6.69.227 (talk) 19:43, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, appreciated, and sorry for the time used.--209.6.69.227 (talk) 20:31, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
Do not call text you disagree with "spam." There's a talk page for resolving disputes.--Jprg1966 (talk) 17:09, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi, Jprg; You recently tagged me in Curry_Todd as a result of my use of the word "spam". Let me assure you that the description is appropriate and used advisedly. The word as I used it refers not simply to the individual entry, since an individual entry cannot be spam, but to the habit of the editor of circumventing the appropriate Talk page (the relevant one is American Legislative Exchange Council, where I have discussed this topic at length). ALEC is a 501(c)3 organization, and it is utterly POV to label it a lobbying group, and a pejorative to label it right-wing, since it is actually Centrist/Libertarian. The editor does NOT refer to Talk pages, but INSTEAD repetitively inserts the phrase "right-wing lobbying" into dozens of pages, wherever ALEC is mentioned. I assume my edit came up on some Bot, since I do not see any evidence that you are an involved editor (another problem with the ALEC page; Wiki-lawyering and canvassing, both on and off-Wiki)--209.6.69.227 (talk) 17:55, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
I think it would be polite and well received. Just a suggestion. Capitalismojo (talk) 17:53, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
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The below posts are all related to edit warring sillyness at the ALEC article. Basically, there is a self-styled activist that has a blog, which he posts to a website he owns, the Rochester Citizen (evidently wanted to start a newspaper 2 years ago, but did not succeed, now left with domain), mostly following around self-styled activists. Some editors insist on edit warring to cite the Rochester Citizen as a WP:RS. Proving beyond any doubt that it is NOT a newspaper, and therefore NOT a WP:RS means proving that it is a guy in his attic with an attack blog, which was done. Editors, including the edit warring ones, now come back and say that, since it is proven that it is a guy in an attic with a blog, information about the Rochester Citizen is in fact outing a guy in his attic with an attack blog, and therefore revealing personal details. Not kidding. Wow.--209.6.69.227 (talk) 04:37, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
OK, let me get this straight.... I am disparaging a PERSON (who was un-named) because I said an ALLEGED NEWSPAPER was an unreliable source, and is in fact a blog. It is only if the newspaper IS, as I said, actually a person and his blog, and NOT a newspaper, as you allege, that discussion of a source could possibly be a PERSONAL attack. How exactly do you call a source unreliable (a WP essential), without calling it unreliable (which you call an insult, and therefore vandalism). --209.6.69.227 (talk) 03:42, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
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Binksternet is asking to Censor information that proves Binksternet provides FALSE information. The information Binksternet removed was with regard to a FAKE newspaper that B asserted was "(Credibility check okay on The Rochester Citizen news. Replace ALEC blog response with WaPo brief summary. Adding Cronon refs and text.) " I have no objection to personal information being removed, once it is agreed that it IS personal information, and that the source is utterly UNreliable. HOWEVER, information that the Rochester Citizen is in fact NOT a newspaper, but someone's personal attack blog run out of their attic, and thus cannot be used as a WP:RS involved proof, which is ample, that it is NOT a newspaper. I was not "outing" a WP editor, and logically I was only "outing" a person if everything that proves it is NOT a newspaper is accepted as fact. You cannot "out" a WP:RS newspaper. Everything that is being removed was information about an alleged newspaper. --209.6.69.227 (talk) 04:17, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
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, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 05:12, 30 May 2012 (UTC)Stop screwing around with formatting of discussions, whether talkpage or elsewhere. It is not helpful and creates a lot of unnecessary difficulty in following them. If you do it again I'll block you for a week. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 20:29, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
Please keep your comments WP:CIVIL, in spite of the extreme provocation you are receiving, and avoid violating other Wikipedia policies (such as WP:BLP). Although I generally agree that your edits add valuable information, but they also often remove information which is accurate, and reliably sourced. For example, in regard your most recent edit, Cronon is an historian and a state employee; his supporters note that as an historian, the FOIA requests violate his academic freedom. His detractors note that he is a state employee, and hence prohibited from lobbying. Although clearly unrelated to ALEC, wherever discussion of that incident occurs, both factors should be discussed.
Also, following WP:INDENT, although not a policy, does help your credibility. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 08:26, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
I placed a Request for comments on the Sandra Fluke page. I would ask that the bio be left until we have concenus. Casprings (talk) 16:45, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
I started a new talk section on your edits here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Casprings (talk • contribs) 20:56, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
Never use headings to attack other users: While no personal attacks and assuming good faith apply everywhere at Wikipedia, using headings to attack other users by naming them in the heading is especially egregious, as it places their names prominently in the Table of Contents, and can thus enter that heading in the edit summary of the page's edit history.
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This Bizarre request now archived at [[4]]--Anonymous209.6 (talk) 14:17, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Sandra Fluke. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Casprings (talk) 03:19, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Please do not change other people's comments for any reason, per WP:TPO. You can ask them to change if you feel it must be done. Insomesia (talk) 12:40, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
There was no change in comments. The classification of comments in a DR is different from that in an AfD. There was no change in the intent, just a clean-up of the language that entitles the comments, for the benefit of a closing admin. Uphold deletion should read in a DR Endorse or Endorse deletion. There really is no ambiguity nor controversy. Did not touch the variety of (I assume Overturn or Relist) other !Votes, since it is mostly unclear what those editors are saying, except where the editor is both clear and used correct DR terminology. --Anonymous209.6 (talk) 12:51, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
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There is clear consensus on the issue you brought up. The links to the discussion can be found on the FA nomination page. If you tag the page again, without changing the consensus, I will report it at WP:AN.Casprings (talk) 23:12, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
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I filled a WP:DRN on Rape and pregnancy controversies in United States elections, 2012. I would ask that we put the past behind and come to some comprise language where there remains disputes. The link to the discussion is here. Casprings (talk) 03:04, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
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Revised definition of censorship. GregJackP Boomer! 00:25, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, posted comment. Hopefully clear definition will weed out some of the more spurious lines of writing. --Anonymous209.6 (talk) 03:59, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
Anon, any editor can remove a speedy tag except the guy who wrote the article. In fact, i usually recommend it to people who want to become admins as a good way of practicing to learn the speedy criteria. DGG ( talk ) 01:49, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi, I saw your recent thread at ANI. Unfortunately what you posted will have the exact opposite effect of what you were hoping to have happen. I urge you to self-revert your post at ANI and instead follow the instructions here. Cheers... Zad68
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Please be so kind and fix the reference errors. This page always appaers in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting. Thanks. --Frze (talk) 14:35, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Hey Anonymous, I just wanted to say that I'm pretty frustrated with the discussion on that talk page, and disgusted by Collect's appalling behavior. I still think I'm substantively right, but with Capitalismojo's reply, I don't think it's worth my time (or sanity) belaboring it. All that said, I wanted to thank you for you civility and reasoned replies. I appreciated it. 2406:E000:90F2:1:C5C5:C413:70A3:C376 (talk) 18:56, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Hi again. I thought I'd reach out to you for suggestions: I'm nearly at the limit of my patience with Collect - I've just left a message on the talk page that is as direct as I can be, but if he either says no or ignores the suggest compromise (as he did with his most recent reply) the only thing I can think to do is ask for help from dispute resolution. I thought I'd see what you think first. Thank you. 2406:E000:90F2:1:C5C5:C413:70A3:C376 (talk) 5:55, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi, Anonymous209.6. Sorry for the long delay in responding re: your message about the Bruce Braley article. I was out of town for several weeks and then got busy last week with work, etc… Again, my apologies for not responding sooner. Thank you for reaching out to me. I appreciate the offer to help with editing. I will be sure to pass along items that I think are relevant to Braley’s article in the future. I come across a lot of different stuff, so if you are willing I will pass along items on other pages as well. With regards to the origin of the Braley video, there has not been a lot of reporting about it specifically. Here is the most thorough story done on the topic to my knowledge:
Thanks again for reaching out to me. If you have any more questions, feel free to contact me on my Talk page. I’ll be sure to respond faster this time. Best, Sprinkler Court (talk) 15:43, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
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