Things you probably never read on Bwilkins' talk page in the first place
You speedied Pago_(Company), and the user recreated it. You then sent it to AFD. Why not salt the article? If you thought it was speedyable in the first instance, isn't it in the second? I ask because I typically salt articles I speedy if they keep showing up in my watchlist (usually in exactly the same form as when I deleted them). Am I wrong? causa sui (talk) 22:54, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
I groaned, but I also laughed. You are a bad, bad person. :P [1] KillerChihuahua?!?Advice 22:31, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
Sources to verify Chris St Clair
The Weather Network theweathernetwork.com mcharron@pelmorex.com Firefly Books fireflybooks.com www.fireflybooks.com/bookdetail&ean=9781554073382 www.kingstonthisweek.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1001954&archive=true — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.193.124.12 (talk) 23:45, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
I was simply trying to provide more information with additional data, not a second request. That's what I noted material and links to your attention,
Thanks, 67.193.124.12 (talk) 23:53, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
A new deletion review has been created regarding an article you've recently discussed. Dr. WTF (talk) 20:24, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Fine, I'm aware that I tend to be a bit trigger happy with deleting articles, so I try to respond to aggrieved editors positively. It's very occasionally been possible to work with an editor to salvage a spam article, but usually it's pretty futile Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:58, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
Apologies thanks for undoing my rollback on above page was totally unintentional only just realised i had done it when looking at my contributions. Using my iphone whilst at work is not the best idea seem to accidentally press something every so often. Edinburgh Wanderer 19:31, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for trying. I appreciate it :) -FASTILY (TALK) 20:59, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
I never disrupted any community discussion, There are only 2 editors discussing about the article deletion issue me and other editor If u dont know please please please stop accusing and abusing fellow editor please please please I am very well following the rules (Vensatry234 (talk) 12:35, 15 October 2011 (UTC)).
I'm not sure if you consider this edit warring, but as soon as the user's block expired they reverted their changes back into Rang De Basanti and again mentioned something about MikeWazowski not being an admin. I figured I'd leave it to your discretion because I wasn't sure if this action fell within the rationale for the last block.--v/r - TP 15:50, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
Popping in to let you know Shii contacted me off-wiki about this; I left both a message on the noticeboard and on the article's talk page. Hopefully the current revision might be palatable to both editors. humblefool® 23:59, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Actually, I hadn't noted his sarcasm. Text is one of those mediums that it can often be difficult to detect if you don't know the person, and before yesterday I hadn't interacted with him before. --Me-123567-Me (talk) 14:18, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
There are many islands named Goat Island, including Goat Island, Trinidad and Tobago. The correct title for that article should be Goat Island (Trinidad and Tobago), and I have placed an entry at wp:requested moves. Your WP:OWN attitude and "final warning" on my talk page are clear abuses of power. I recommend you relax and work with me on this instead of all this posturing, or I will escalate. Jokestress (talk) 04:22, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
Man your good! I guess being on Wikipedia so long makes me forget about the newcomers not knowing these things. I should be more careful.Gregory Heffley (talk) 20:26, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
[2] You could have said "OR" and left it at that, without a blanket smear on the high opinion protestors have of themselves.[citation needed] KillerChihuahua?!? 21:11, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
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Since you have participated in yesterday's events, and even at one point (justly in my opinion) objected to other users personal attacks against me, I am dissapointed that you seem to resort to intimidation in your "advice" that you posted on my page. I have read some of the policies and pages on this site, and browsed a bit how things go on here, and see that things are, as always, more complex than on the first glance. Why do you suggest that after all the very upsetting intimidation and harrasment, that I recieved on the ANI page, which caused quite a bit of stress to me and to which I was unable to respond, I would have no right to complain about it, and would be "banned" (which seems to be a pretty extreme measure, and as you pointed out is different from block that I received - but even in policy about banned users it is written It is unacceptable to take advantage of banned editors, whether by mocking, baiting, or otherwise abusing them.). I reviewed what happened on ANI page, and the most offensive personal attacks did not come from the offending admin (who did throw some insults but was later concerned about showing to the rest of the community that he did not do anything wrong), but by "Baseball Bugs", who, as it turn outs, has a long history of harrasment and personal atacks against other editors, and has been blocked several times for this [3]. Although he received many warnings to stop his abuse at ANI page, he did not, and even attacked another sysop for which he received warnings both on his page and on ANI page too (unsurprisingly, although his abuse of admin was not as severe as against me, this caused stronger reaction). I do not see why complaining about this would cause me to be blocked (or even "banned" as you suggest on my page, which I find rather intimidating) - unlike the "edit war" situation, in this case Baseball Bugs was harrasing me while I had absolutely no interaction with him, and there is no rule against protecting users own dignity (in fact, at many points in the policies, the importance of rules of "civility", "no personal attacks", "assuming good faith" etc. have been stressed over and over again, and they all have been severely violated in my case; I even found at one place that it is wrong for experienced users to object to unfamiliarity with the rules by the less experienced users). And why would an admin (or indeed any other user) would be, justly, able to object to BB's unacceptable behavior, and I would not? Also, by your own estimate, most people on ANI board did not read my posts in depth, rather they relied on assesment of other users. "Baseball Bugs" has in several occasions misrepresented the circumstances, all while I was not able to respond. For instance, he replied that my comment, transfered by Swarm from my talk page, that I did not violate 3RR rule, is untrue - while it can be easily checked from my edit history that I made 3 reverts, and sysop made 4 (that is a coincidence, noone pointed my attention to 3RR or BRD policies; his threat of block turned me to the noticeboard page, and the uselessness of the reverts turned my attention to the talk pages) - weather this is deliberate misunderstanding or not, I do not know, but user BB effectively tried to represent me as a liar. He also said that it is a "blatant lie" that the offending op tried to get an edge in edit dispute from his sysop powers - by threatening to block me; he in fact admited that he had intended to follow on his threat [4] to be honest, blocking was actually going to be my next step, which would be a case of conflict of interest - and this was the reason, together with his calling me a "vandal" and refusal to talk, to go to the noticeboard page (only then did the offending admin become kinder, suggesting that I start a new page etc. - but after the block and his unblocking, he resorted to his "racist" and "bad faith" insults). Worst of all, the sources that I provided were referred to as not corresponding to the text I inserted. In fact, if you check the sources (which were for the two incidents; I later, via Swarm, pointed to sources for other incidents, and to the wu wei generalities), you will see that there is nothing regarding the incidents themself that does not correspond to the sources - the suicide/turist incident and the little girl incident are fully supported from the sources. However few people bother to read the articles, and when someone says that sources do not support the text, while I cannot respond, that is pretty much a below the belt blow. Some people questioned the general wu wei stuff, however this is in fact quite uncontroversial and easy too check - there are some useful references for this too, some I pointed via Swarm in my second ANI post. The thing which is NPOV (or rather it would fall under WP:SYNTH, as I see is in the policies) is the link between the two. It is not true that I misrepresented the sources, but some editors (Basseball Bats included) tried to represent me as dishonestly using the sources. Now, the whole incident did cause quite a bit of stir and soul searching in China and in the world, and making cultural link is not something that is out-of-the way - in fact, as it can be found out from many sources, there are links to Chinese fear of complications (cases when people were punished for helping - BBC and LA times articles talk about that, and I mentioned it too as well as Good Samaritian-type laws). I later found this link [5], where professor Joachim I. Krueger from Brown, speaking for CNN, says that this is classic case of voulonteer dilemma and says the following: If an incident occurs in a foreign country or culture, it is easy – maybe tempting, as we grapple with something so baffling – to conclude that the particular culture is to blame, that it is being callous, uncaring or egotistical … but it would be too facile to think that apathy in the face of others’ suffering is a signature of the local culture. So, the synthesis, although in retrospect is probably wrong, is not unnatural and it is understandable that such an inference about culture is made - showing just how accusations against me of being "bad faith editor", "racist", "Chinese apologist","troll" is wrong. Had I inserted the same example into voulonteer dilema instead of Chinese culture it would be quite appropriate (I might do that at some point), or indeed if an authority made connection with wu wei (which, despite of how people react, makes sense), then it wouldn't be original synthesis. This is just to point out to you in how many ways the damaging things and accusations against me are wrong. Finally, I also see that you were involved in a slimilar incident recently, in which you blocked another admin for 72 hours. Now, it seems to me (it is possible that I didn't get all the circumstances), that this sysop was not more guilty than the one I had conflict with. Is it true that his "edit war" involved a talk page reverts (and there were not even 3 of them) of deletion of talk page comments (which in your policies is not the same as in the article, the comments of other users are not to be removed, if I didn't confuse the things about the policies). He also made some personal attacks, essentially saying that user is juvenile, and in joking and disrespectful, but somewhat lighthearted manner. He was only unblocked when he admitted his mistake and appologized. Contrast this with the other sysop, who also made personal attacks and violated 3RR, refused to talk on the talk page or article talk page, threatened blocking while in edit dispute (and as he later admitted intended to use his blocking powers), who was unblocked without his admitting any fault (in fact, he indicated that he thinks block is ridicilous and that he was right all way, and that he feels it absurd to even having to justify his edit warring, in his own words I'm honestly shocked anyone could consider that an edit war, I'm honestly aghast that I even need to defend my reverts. etc), and in fact completely changed his tone from constructive (in the beginning of noticeboard, when he finally responded to me, making a suggestion to move the material esewhere) to insultive (once he was unblocked, but I was not). Perhaps I used the wrong noticeboard (I see that there is incidents noticeboard, and the case on the noticeboard was closed before I was able to respond properly), however, despite the evidence that the offending admin in my case got very lightly compared to the other sysop, certainly his abuse and insults were much lighter than the one by "Baseball Bugs" (after all, he was blocked and this must have stressed him, and I can extend good faith that he thought my edits were "complete crap", which, as I explained there, they were not - even if synthesis is wrong, that does not mean that it is trash much less that such offensive words should be used). Of all the users (mostly admins but some are not - seems like Baseball Bugs, with his long history of harrasment, is not allowed to be sysop, which is a good thing), who participated in what felt like verbal lynching at that ANI page, "Baseball Bugs" had most malicious, inciting coments aimed at turning other users into trashing me, and while there were quite a few insults, his influence seems to have had the worst effect - both in characterizing my edits as something they were not, and in direct pattern of abuse and insults. It is certainly not his first time - compared to my treatment for what happened yesterday, the tollerance of his ongoing harrasment of many users over many years seems to be quite strange. I certainly do not like injustice and abuse of power (of which there is a lot in this world, and some forms of which you are only too lucky not to know about), but are not (despite of what you might think) unreasonable. It is natural that privileged people stick to each other, and so, the fact that a sysop was blocked (and in fact there is another case of similar situation) is certainly a good thing showing that, albeit imperfectly, the rules can be followed here. So it is both unnecessary, contraproductive and unfair to try to intimidate me - if there is a procedure against abuse, and abuse is occuring form a particular user in a repeated and persistant way, which includes harrasment, repeated personal attacks and ignoring all warnings over YEARS, against many users, than I do not see how complaining against severe abuse (that only started on ANI page in earnest as I was blocked and unable to respond, to the delight of certain type of editors) that I was victim of yesterday, could be a disservice to community. Unfortunately, I know too well that NOT complaining about abuse leads to its repetition, until it becomes endemic in a community. Hopefully this place, that seems to have elaborate system of very reasonable policies, does not subscribe to supressing legitimate complaints about behaviour that is strictly against numerous policies that are formulated as important. In this short time which included extreme frustration of yesterday's injustice, I have come accross to both common human falacies and decent people (like Swarm, but there were a few other users that, although likely mostly motivated by defense of the admin who fairhandedly issued the two blocks, also objected to the worst abuse against me), so certainly I may find this hopefull, and also hope that your attempt at intimidation is just an error in judgement that can happen to everyone. Wangleetodd (talk) 21:57, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
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Awarded to Bwilkins for pretty much being the best talk page stalker ever :) Cheers, FASTILY (TALK) 21:50, 21 October 2011 (UTC) |
You've probabbly seen my response to ed already but ill post it here as it will probably answer your questions.
blocking me wouldnt solve the siutation; chances are in the long run Wikipedia itself will be deprived of a decent, young editor. Something it soley needs.
It wasn't really a revert war since i didnt revert anything. It started off as me posting a query about his username and he deleted it and said it was rubbish/nonsense which i was a little annoyed about but i merely posted a new message asking him why he reverted it. He responded by plastering a rather strong toned message on my talk page (some of which i didnt actually understand or know how to interpret)and i was genuinelly offended by it and i said it was ironic he was pointing the sword at me (i was still perfectly polite) and i pointed out that himself had already been banned for 3RR, vandalism , annoying others and also about his username (he was even indef banned) and i urged him to stop this madness otherwise it will be both our downfall, and i ended the message with something he put on my page; there is no further discussion. Thus ending the matter.
However, for one reason or another he decided to report an already closed matter breaching WP:LETGO or even WP:DEADHORSE and further fueling the aready tense situation, and making an unessarary judgement. Could you point out the exact source of what i did wrong, or better still what would you of done if you were in my shoes?
On a more important issue, I absolutely can interact with other editors , provided they wish to interact with me. If you check my contribs i have welcomed and assisted new recruits (which in my opinion are the most important aspect of wikipedia since without them wikipedia will soon become useless) and its rather sad that some more experienced members trample on them (as i was when i was new) or help them for the sake of furthering their own prestige. Also i have been encouraging retired members to rejoin wikipedia, most notably User talk:Barts1a and i was helping him resolve a dispute he had with another editor (which caused him to quit in protest/disgust) diplomaticially and encouraging him to move on.
I have also made good relations with my mentor, Lionel who i get on very well with; along with other editors who i am great friends with, notably User:Σ and User:Jasper Deng whom have helped me (and i have helped) to progress in wikipedia.
Also , if you want me to break down your arguement to further your understanding then i will.
Having first encountered you today, Dont judge a book by its cover I highly doubt you'll listen to anything constructive from this review absolutely bad faith judgement, afterall why would i put myself up for review and then not give a toss about what it says? Why would i make a constructive criticism page? After all, you failed to listen to a half-dozen people today alone.Who were the other four? You appear, based on your edits, to get into needless arguments, then wonder out loud how you go there. You need to learn to listen to constructive criticism. You need to read the first time, rather than hound. You need to shut up and listen a little more. You have positive edits just not positive relationshipsnot true , see my previous statements above.
At any rate, thank you for the review its nice to know what others think of me from time to time. User:Goldblooded (Talk/Discuss)(Complain) 10:31, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments on Jimbo's talk page. That thread has now been archived so it can't continue there. What would you advise I do next? I really, really want to move forward with this. And there are only two places, as far as I can see, with unused accounts that would need to be usurped. I'm quite happy to do the legwork; in something nine years in the making that really doesn't worry me at all. — Hex (❝?!❞) 02:19, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
How can you not consider somebody who is listened to by thousands of people on a regular basis and not notable? simply do a search on the itunes store for the 'joe rogan experience' and you will see just how popular his primary podcast is. Please refrain from using personal bias when moderating wikipedia, it certainly doesn't make you look good. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.93.192.47 (talk) 19:32, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi! I allready wrote before to some users and administrators about problems at the page about Ukrainians. There is a problem of eraseing important data or sources (vandalism) from the page by unknown user, sometimes it is only prvocation, but it is allways there. Maybe some previously known users are doing that, I can't point at the moment, but it is still a big problem because there is a clear goal for provocation. I would be very grateful to you, only to look what you can do with this site to be protected. It is useless me to warn those users, because I think there is no any effect of it. Thanks for you time!--SeikoEn (talk) 06:24, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
I wonder, in this edit did you intend to over-write another admin's unblock decline, or was that a mistake? JamesBWatson (talk) 17:21, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Latest unblock request would seem to indicate they are ready to stop blaming others and accept the reality that what they did was way out of line. Feels like its WP:ROPE time, checking with you as blocking admin. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:45, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi, Thanks for responding so rapidly. I have recently had two pages deleted Leslie Kulesh and Auto Italia South East I hope it is appropriate for me to respond to your comments here. Firstly the reason why I did not write on the deleting admins page first is simply because they did not write to me upon deleting the page, so I felt it was probably best to expand the conversation. I don't have much experience dealing with deletion and as I'm sure you know it can be quite frustrating. I believe the Auto Italia page to be honest and unbiased, and was frustrated to be accused of advertisement. In addition the term 'Emerging Artist' is jargon for an artist in the early stages of their career. Many artists who are reviewed heavily in the art and mainstream press, have international exhibitions and have published and been written on in academic and popular publications would be considered as 'emerging'. The term does not correspond with non-notable status. Thanks for looking at this for me, I only wish to contribute to the subject of contemporary art through wikipedia. I have no axe to grind! Like most contributors I have so little free time and it's so disheartening to have all your work deleted without as much as a word. All the best Chaosandvoid (talk) 20:53, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Okay, thank you. I will take what you have said on-board and in future attempt to pay closer attention to the guidelines. Sometimes it can be a little overwhelming for more amateur wiki contributors to follow how and where the conversations are happening. Sorry to say I missed the messages on my talk page. Things do move fast around here sometimes! Thanks again for your help Best Chaosandvoid (talk) 21:14, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
I am not related to the organisation. I have contacted them and made use of references and permissions of images they have sent to me. I will continue to communicate with them and other artist run spaces and artists to contribute to wikipedia's art pages. The 'selected exhibitions' and 'selected publications' sections were given to give the article veracity not promotion. I can see how the 'selected exhibitions' section can possibly be misconstrued to be promotional and will in future only mention specific exhibitions if they are of over-all relevence to the article. On the other hand, Auto Italia can in no way profit financially from independent publications written about them in magazines or in books. Most wiki pages cite books written on the subject. How is this promotional? Chaosandvoid (talk) 21:28, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Point taken, although I only listed some of the exhibitions that have taken place at a gallery, and also listed the publications written about them. This seemed to me only to be stating fact, hopefully adding veracity to the article. The publications are not there as references, nor are they discussing related subjects. They are major publications written about Auto Italia. I don't entirely see why it is promotional to include these, and in fact if they did not exist the page would be considered non-notable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chaosandvoid (talk • contribs) 22:06, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
I wonder, in this edit did you intend to over-write another admin's unblock decline, or was that a mistake? JamesBWatson (talk) 17:21, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Latest unblock request would seem to indicate they are ready to stop blaming others and accept the reality that what they did was way out of line. Feels like its WP:ROPE time, checking with you as blocking admin. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:45, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi, Thanks for responding so rapidly. I have recently had two pages deleted Leslie Kulesh and Auto Italia South East I hope it is appropriate for me to respond to your comments here. Firstly the reason why I did not write on the deleting admins page first is simply because they did not write to me upon deleting the page, so I felt it was probably best to expand the conversation. I don't have much experience dealing with deletion and as I'm sure you know it can be quite frustrating. I believe the Auto Italia page to be honest and unbiased, and was frustrated to be accused of advertisement. In addition the term 'Emerging Artist' is jargon for an artist in the early stages of their career. Many artists who are reviewed heavily in the art and mainstream press, have international exhibitions and have published and been written on in academic and popular publications would be considered as 'emerging'. The term does not correspond with non-notable status. Thanks for looking at this for me, I only wish to contribute to the subject of contemporary art through wikipedia. I have no axe to grind! Like most contributors I have so little free time and it's so disheartening to have all your work deleted without as much as a word. All the best Chaosandvoid (talk) 20:53, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Okay, thank you. I will take what you have said on-board and in future attempt to pay closer attention to the guidelines. Sometimes it can be a little overwhelming for more amateur wiki contributors to follow how and where the conversations are happening. Sorry to say I missed the messages on my talk page. Things do move fast around here sometimes! Thanks again for your help Best Chaosandvoid (talk) 21:14, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
I am not related to the organisation. I have contacted them and made use of references and permissions of images they have sent to me. I will continue to communicate with them and other artist run spaces and artists to contribute to wikipedia's art pages. The 'selected exhibitions' and 'selected publications' sections were given to give the article veracity not promotion. I can see how the 'selected exhibitions' section can possibly be misconstrued to be promotional and will in future only mention specific exhibitions if they are of over-all relevence to the article. On the other hand, Auto Italia can in no way profit financially from independent publications written about them in magazines or in books. Most wiki pages cite books written on the subject. How is this promotional? Chaosandvoid (talk) 21:28, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Point taken, although I only listed some of the exhibitions that have taken place at a gallery, and also listed the publications written about them. This seemed to me only to be stating fact, hopefully adding veracity to the article. The publications are not there as references, nor are they discussing related subjects. They are major publications written about Auto Italia. I don't entirely see why it is promotional to include these, and in fact if they did not exist the page would be considered non-notable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chaosandvoid (talk • contribs) 22:06, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi. Two barnstars/awards to add to your superb work on miniatures. (I don't want to edit your user space).
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You've recently reverted some problematic changes there. An edit filter mentioning you-know-who might be considered. But check out Wikipedia:Edit filter/Requested. It says that EFs are not advisable when only a single page is being attacked. So what about putting back the semiprotection, and doubling the duration each time a new problem occurs? A line could be added to the intro shown to submitters suggesting that IPs make their undeletion requests at ANI (which is not semiprotected at the moment). A good-faith REFUND request from an IP seems to come in several times a month. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 16:22, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick response and advice. Actdaveor (talk) 03:27, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
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I saw that in your decline comment on User talk:Nevoexpo you said "Although I could say you were not well-warned about edit-warring..." The user and I discussed this here. I wasn't sure if you were aware of that or not, but if so, is there something I can do in the future to make it more clear? If there is a problem with this on my end, I'd like to know so I can fix it if possible. Thanks. - SudoGhost 10:01, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Hi Bwilkins. Regarding your message on the above user's talk page, I am in agreement with what you wrote as to what policy should be, but I cannot agree with what you wrote because it is stated as setting out what policy is, when it pretty clearly is not. Specifically, you told this user that they would not be unblocked because they have a COI if they plan to continue to write the article on the cricket club—the source of their conflict of interest. You did not say it as "I will not unblock you" but that "you will not be unblocked" and implied both that this is from policy, and that no other administrator would. I would not have wished to make you look like a liar on that page but had I gotten this user's message before his block had already expired (he posted to my talk page), I would have been basically constrained to unblock by policy. The COI policy is a strong suggestion, a precautionary scolding without teeth—"COI editing is strongly discouraged". We tell users their edits will have additional scrutiny, and we watch them for spamming, and we tag their articles with COI and advert and NPOV and so on but we don't block editors who are collegially editing with a COI unless they are being actively disruptive; continuing to edit with a COI is not in and of itself disruptive by long standing consensus. We do, of course, block promotional user names, and that was done, but there was nothing to block here and the autoblock itself should never have occurred: we are supposed to uncheck "Autoblock any IP addresses used" when doing these types of username blocks; see Wikipedia:Blocking policy#Setting block options.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:04, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Just a question i created a user space draft User:Edinburgh Wanderer/Denys Prychynenko another user has came along copied it and placed in article space see Denis Prychynenko. Ive nominated for speedy deletion as not notable yet. But was wondering am i correct that i cant do anything about someone doing that. Sorry you are one of the few admins i know.Edinburgh Wanderer 21:58, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
Hi there. Would you be interested in applying as a campus ambassador for Wikipedia to Carleton University? If so, drop me an email. Thanks! Bob the WikipediaN (talk • contribs) 03:39, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
Shouldn't Dualus (talk · contribs) be blocked as well? --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 21:57, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
Hi, Bwilkins. I would like to ask what to do with the closure of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/FOSTER NATURAL GAS/OIL REPORT. Although I myself supported to keep this article, the closure was far away from consensus or any closure conditions. Beagel (talk) 23:22, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
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Hello Bwilkins. The thread which you opened has been archived to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive726#Community Discussion of Topic Ban and Interaction Ban without formal closure. Do you have a suggestion of what to do next? It seems that seven editors supported the topic and interaction bans including the two of us, and there were no oppose votes from uninvolved editors. Neither Chesdovi nor Debresser were happy with the restriction from talk pages. I think it unwise to allow either Chesdovi or Debresser to participate in the debate until a clear consensus is reached on the naming issue. (We've been going in circles long enough).
If more data is needed to show consensus for the topic ban, the community's unhappiness as expressed in the prior ANI might be thrown into the calculation. EdJohnston (talk) 04:32, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
Since I am an admin, and I disagree with the early closure of the AfD for this page, I'm going to restore the article and reopen the AfD to allow the AfD to run a full week, in accordance with your instructions above. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 16:54, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
Here - "nothing in it", perhaps. pablo 16:58, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
You're right... I should have put a welcome template on his talk page. I usually don't bite the newbies, but the past few days have been more Wiki-drama then I'm used to. Feel free to trout me if you must... VictorianMutant(Talk) 18:12, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
Civility Barnstar | |
Thanks for judging neutrally,without discrimination and for your good behaviour with users .--Orartu (talk) 09:56, 7 November 2011 (UTC) |
After my recent block , I look at the report page of edit war : [6] . You know , this reported edit :[7], has not been reverting of any change and I think was wrongly reported as a revert. I have 8 edits in that page : 5 times adding references , one time deleting a template that was not a revert and two times reverting (getting back the deleted references) I ask this because it was my first time to be blocked and first time to be considered doing wrong . Can you explain me what was my wrong , to be prevented in coming occasions ? Thank you so much --Alborz Fallah (talk) 15:23, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
There appears to be some edit warring between one of the involved users User:Orartu and User:علی ویکی. I am not aware how to re-open a case but I have added a comment with the relevant details on ANI Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:Alborz_Fallah_reported_by_User:Orartu_.28Result:_Both_blocked.29. IRWolfie- (talk) 17:40, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
Please remove that bot out of my talk page for 24 hours. It keeps deleting an impersonation barrier template that I am developing. Please send me a talk back if you received this and have a response for this.—cyberpower (Talk to Me)(Contributions) 22:46, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
Hi BWilkins
Thanks for your feedback on the [Michael Capponi] page, if you could help out a fellow Canadian with some pointers on how I can rewrite the article as well as some of the source and references since I have been adding them along with a friend over the last 6 months and it would make my life easier so I don't have to start over again completely. If you could be so kind as to at least put it back into draft mode or email me the contents so I can at least start from there I would be very grateful.
Thank you Mryayo8 (talk) 04:56, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie,
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from falling hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
(talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:56, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
Hi.I need help,please take a look at here [8]can romanizaed form of a title's name be written in article in addition to common alphabet?With Respect--Orartu (talk) 12:42, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
I was wondering if you could take a look at the latest activity on this page. Recently, you blocked User:Wiqi55 for 60 hours, for edit-warring on this page. But only minutes after the expiration of his block, he resumed edit-warring there, and has already reverted this page 6 times in the last few hours. [9] Kurdo777 (talk) 15:49, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for suggesting RFC/U. But I need another user to file, and as stated earlier, all other users who "fought" this guy have receded as they grew tired of him. So if you agree with me, would you co-operate on this RFC/U? Thank you. ᴳᴿᴲᴳᴼᴿᴵᴷ☺ᶤᶯᵈᶸᶩᶢᵉ 12:36, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Tovalu (talk) 05:56, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
Hi again.Pardon for interruption, I wanted to discuss with User:In fact here[10], but his tone of writing is similar to announcement of war than discussion, I am sorry for him.My account blocked for unintentionally editwarring here [11], I only wanted to stop User:Alborz Fallah entering unrelated sources, after blocking I didn't contribute in editing this article, and User:Alborz Fallah and User:علی ویکی freely entering unrelated materials to this article, User:ASCIIn2Bme has referred to some of them.After nomination of this article Azarbaijani Kurdsfor deletion, they soon created another discussion subject in Iranian Azerbaijanis to reduce my contribution here as nominator [12],User:علی ویکی also deleted all "Dubious" and "Citation needed" tags from article without any convincing explanation [13]. User:علی ویکی also deleted materials which had sources here[14], but there was no penalty for him.He is not ordinary user [15]. Please take a look at here Talk:Iranian Azerbaijanis, here is like battleground and new assistance forces and sockpuppet accounts want to poison atmosphere against me.I only said that article is not propaganda site of Iran's government or Pan Iranist blog to reflect only their pov, but User:Kansas Bear began personal attacks against me and along with User:In fact accused me as opposer of Iran's government, and Righting Great Wrongs.I wanted to see the result of this deletion process Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Azarbaijani Kurds,then leave wikipedia, but I could not tolerate tense and poisoning atmosphere around Iranian and Azerbaijani related articles and personal attacks.I appreciate you and other admins of English wikipedia who keep the neutrality of this encyclopedia.With Respect--Orartu (talk) 07:18, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
Hey there! Hope you are having a wonderful Monday :) I had asked User:Dawnseeker2000 (who had worked with me in the past and taught me to upload music files) if he could upload three music WP:SAMPLEs to an article I am working on. He insisted that I should ask you to see if I could? If not, is it possible that you can help me out with doing this? Thanks, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 03:12, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
When persians nationalist, and racist disruptive activities are ignored and encouraged by admins like User:EdJohnston, my presence is meaningless and is only wasting time.I want to delete all my contribiutions and discussions.I am sorry for myself for wasting my time here to hear accusations like these [16], [17], I don't want to save my talk page, it is painful for me.When I am unwelcome here, there is no reason for existance of my talkings too.--Orartu (talk) 18:25, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
Hi there. After four days of waiting, she finally showed up in the article's talk page. She also reverted the other user who had already restored the article to the consunsus. As I remember you said we should not change the article related to those same edits or we are blocked. Unfortunately User:Orartu did not listen to you and your advice. What is your suggestion ? Regards, In fact 10:13, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
I'd like to request user space drafts of the previously deleted versions of this article to work on cleaning up and sourcing it for recreation. The recent success of The Walking Dead has lead to a bevy of supporting sources. aprock (talk) 08:10, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
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Thank you. Based on the AfD discussion, other versions may be a better starting place. If you think it would be better for me to ask each of the other two deleting admins, please let me know and I will do so. aprock (talk) 19:17, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
Hello,
Since I saw that ANI doesn`t get much attention, I am wondering if you could review this case [18] and help to reach a solution. Thank you. Adrian (talk) 12:43, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
It may seem like that, but what should I do? Until the last moment I gave this user a chance to explain his POV and to stop with personal attacks.. What would you do in my place if someone would act like this? I asked for advice and what should I do and I never got the answer.There are several wikipedia policies and a user clearly ignores it (and intends to ignore it no matter what, also almost in every his comment there is a personal attack..) - I still can`t believe it. If I was in his situation I would probably be warned or blocked by now... I am really stunned with this whole situation. For now I will walk away of course since the community decided to tolerate everything this user have done, but if continued I will pursue a DR if possible or if simply present this case as such to [20]. PS: I am not asking for a block. If it would be by me, this user should receive a warning for now. Adrian (talk) 21:58, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
Since you had earlier warned User:Orartu about his conduct, could you please take a look at his latest activities. Other than the usual edit-warring, the usual personal attacks, and the usual WP:Battle-POV-type of edits, he's now taken the disruption to whole a new level, calling another editor "an agent of the Iranian government".[21] This is a serious accusation with real-life implications, to be throwing around at an editor whose username is his real-life identity. Another editor, with an identical POV as User:Orartu, who made the exact same accusation on Wikipedia several weeks ago, was given an indefinite block by an administrator who also happens to be an ArbCom member.[22] [23]. I'm surprised that Orartu's behavior has gone unchecked for so long. Another admin named EdJohnston also recently warned him about his battleground-type of behavior/edits[24], but instead of taking the warning seriously, Orartu went on the offensive, and a made a bunch of accusations against EdJohnston as well. Kurdo777 (talk) 17:22, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of 50/50 Twin. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Ei1sos (talk) 22:24, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
I've noticed you have protected the page to prevent further disruption. I would appreciate it if you could also revert the edits to a previous (pre-edit-war) neutral revision. 79.170.50.135 (talk) 16:18, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
May you confirm me to have right to upload pictures, because i didnt have rights to upload logo on one wiki page. Thanks Stojan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stojansmk (talk • contribs) 22:51, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
Dear Bwilkins, I am the principal author of the article "chorus+" that you recently undeleted and made available in my userspace "grsjst". Thank you for that!
In order to prevent speedy deletion, i'd like to ask for your advice. To give you some context, CHORUS+ is a research project funded by the European Commission. There are a number of research partners involved that will contribute to the article. However, since there are multiple contributors, the article may take one (or two) months to develop. My initial plan was therefore to develop it in my own userspace and, once it is sufficiently mature, publish the article on wikipedia. However, when I requested an upload for the project logo, this was rejected because the article was only available in my userspace. Publishing the article led to speedy-delation, as you know.
My question to you is how to proceed in this case? If I keep the article in my userspace, how do i upload images? If i publish the article pre-maturly how do i avoid it is getting speedy deleted? Many thanks for your suggestion! Grsjst (talk) 16:59, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
Greetings! I apologize for not providing a specific context. You recently speedily deleted T. grandiflora (disambiguation), and several other similarly configured "foo (disambiguation)" redirects. However, these redirects are supposed to exist in accordance with WP:INTDABLINK, so that intentional links can be made to disambiguation pages without appearing as errors needing correction. Furthermore, there is a widely used template for species identification on disambiguation pages that requires these redirects to exist in order to function properly. Please don't delete "foo (disambiguation)" redirects unless the target page is actually not a disambiguation page at all. Cheers! bd2412 T 17:34, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
Hi. I just wanted to say no hard feelings if I pursued this issue a bit overzealously. Cheers! bd2412 T 23:54, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
[30] Chzz ► 00:16, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
Davis100 has indeed returned as Davis1000 and has continued his vandalism. Just thought I'd let you know. Live and Die 4 Hip Hop (talk) 23:33, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
Hi Bwilkins. I'm currently involved as close to a furious all-in brawl as I will ever be about welcoming new users.
Kudpung of course makes very good point: why welcome SPAs and obvious trolls and vandals?
I mentioned you in my reply to Kudpung, so I have foreshadowed this.
Your thoughts? --Shirt58 (talk) 13:25, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
In a recent AN/I posted, you expressed some sympathy with DIREKTOR's positions (although not in that particular instance). I've about come to the conclusion that he is pretty much impossible to work with in terms of trying to reach consensus due to his basic incivility. Most recently DIREKTOR has accussed me of section blanking without consensus when, in fact, the changes in question were the result of discussions in July and August. I readily admit that much of my frustration is due to my belief that DIREKTOR is determined to undo what I regard as good work that came out of long mediation process (from which DIREKTOR eventually withdrew), but I'm seeing a pattern of consistent accusations and ad hominem attacks which inhibit productive discussions. Am I completely out of line in my thinking? I'm seriously considering taking up the issue at Arbcom or initiating an RFC/U, and any advice you could offer would be much appreciated. I figured asking you and Elen of the Roads would be appropriate. --Nuujinn (talk) 17:48, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
Whats the point in helping wikipedia if everything you change is undone.... theres no point. Why would anyone edit a page if its going to be changed back. Well I won't be editing anymore. --Benjyjm (talk) 19:24, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
I thought you would have been able to check them yourself its Ray_William_Johnson page, I made several changes. I added three pictures and edited text (which was incorrect). The images I uploaded have been removed? I got a warning that the copyright info was not right I contacted another wiki admin( I think he was an admin ) about it asking for his help, he didn't reply. But not only are the pictures gone ...the text has been changed back too which I don't understand at all. --Benjyjm (talk) 21:24, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
The person I contacted was Luna Santin ...I thought he was in control of Ray_William_Johnson page and was the one who put a semi-protected status on it.--Benjyjm (talk) 21:27, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
He's been taken to ANI but I doubt he will reply. Dougweller (talk) 01:04, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
I would really appreciate your help in recovering this lost article - see this discussion. In the meantime User:George Ho has moved Ansell (disambiguation) to Ansell, and another user, User:Dogcutter, who seems ot have been banned, has created a different article on what looks like the same company as the subject of the lost article. I have some difficulty in following what is going on here!
Thanks--Mhockey (talk) 04:45, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
Hi there. I thought I'd let you know about this rollback request. If you have an opinion on the matter, feel free to share. Swarm X 06:43, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
Apologize in advance!
How the fate of my application for next?, I need reassurance and a great soul to fulfill the promise of yourself. If you asked me to wait again for another month, I also resigned about it, but I ask if you can as soon as possible so that my spirit can recover against acts of vandalism here.
For your consideration, on Indonesian Wikipedia I was most active editor with more than 6,400 articles resighting and nearly 1,700 articles sighting also thousands of articles to revert vandalism. Sincerely. Wagino 20100516 (talk) 02:43, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
Well, according to my words above that whatever your decision, I accept that even though this one with feelings of sadness, at least for now. Thanks a lot. Wagino 20100516 (talk) 09:09, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
Given his most recent round of threats what do you think about opening an SPI? I was trying to avoid it (embarrassing a good faith, but misguided, contributor probably isn't constructive after all) but the latest rant makes me suspicious there is a rabbit hole here we are not seeing. I'm not altogether sure I want to delve into that rabbit hole, but on the other hand I'd prefer to know who it is that will be dumping this in front of whichever Arbcom case they think will cause the most trouble. --Errant (chat!) 15:29, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
I should post my request on the discussion page of changing username??? (Denemours&company (talk) 11:20, 27 November 2011 (UTC)).
I notice a very harsh response to my restoration of Dieselpunk on this page Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Advice.2C_please.3F. I was threaten with the removal of my reviewer status (although I though that proposal failed) due to one edit regarding The Devil's Tree. If you look at my edit history I hope you understand the level of contribution I've made to wikipedia as well as a solid edit history. Was anything negative added to my username or any ability removed? Please inform me so I know what actions to take. Thanks. Valoem talk 17:54, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
Hi Bwilkins. This edit is a good edit. I fear new admins may not understand why ips should be rarely blocked. Perhaps, if you're ok, we should place the previous explanation back into the statement? Best. Wifione Message 04:06, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
Are there any particular tasks you'd like (or did you mean all of them?). If you have a toolserver account, I can make a tarball that has the code, so you can just untar it in your directory. — Carl (CBM · talk) 14:19, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
The bot code is [31]. It uses a library I wrote, which is at [32]. The library file has to be named API.pm and put inside a directory Mediawiki/ and then the main script has to be told where the parent of that Mediawiki/ directory is. You can run the script as DRYRUN=1 perl script.pl
and the DRYRUN=1 environment var will tell it not to actually edit the wiki - which makes it safe for testing. You'll have to set up a credentials file for the script, which has one line that looks like user USERNAME
and a second line that looks like pass PASSWORD
. The name of that file also goes in the main script. — Carl (CBM · talk) 00:56, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
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Back on September 15, 2011 you unblocked User:AJona1992, who had been blocked for sockpuppetry (see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/AJona1992/Archive). AJona1992 admitted to using a sockpuppet to upload copyvio images on his talkpage (see here). I am not aware of any new sockpuppetry or copyvio image issues. However, AJona1992 has done at least three things I am aware of which make me wonder if he should continue editing here at all.
The first issue was AJona1992 expanding the FA on Selena from around 2236 words (when it passed FAC) to about 8637 words (see July changes diff and October changes diff). He then opened a peer review where he wrote The article is currently a WP:FA, however, with my additions, it no longer meets the criteria .... I raised this issue at FAR here, with the result being that his additions were reverted.
The second issue I became aware of was with Selena singles discography where 36 gold and platinum record certifications were removed, as the sources did not back any of them up (diff). This was discussed on AJona1992's talk page, where said he added every one of the faulty certifications, based on Mexican magazines. At the very least this shows me that he cannot decide what are (and are not) reliable sources.
The third issue is from the article on a Selena album, Amor Prohibido. In the course of a peer review I thought this sentence was very odd Selena was named "La Onda Chicana [Selena]" ("The Selena Wave") in Italian.[2] and decided to check the book source cited. When I looked at page 110 in the book cited, I found that the sentence was misquoted - the original was The extremely high attendance figures indicated that by 1995 Selena "was la onda [Chicana]. La onda was Selena."75 There is nothing in the book about this being in Italian (it is Spanish) and just searching the book for "onda chicana" gives the translation (it means "the Chicano wave" and refers to the style of music that became part of Tejano, Selena's genre). I also worry that the sales information for the album in the 2002 book does not seem to match what is in the article.
I do a lot of peer reviews and so am familiar with much of AJona1992's work. I have long known that he is a poor writer, but assumed good faith that he was adding useful and accurate content. However, at least as far as Selena goes, he seems unable to filter out trivia / cruft from what is encylcopedic (as seen in the Selelna FA expansion). The discography certifications show me he is unable at the least to find reliable sources. Given his focus on Selena, I also worry that he was trying to inflate her discography with 36 gold and platinum records she did not earn (I have no proof of thios - just my fear). Finally the third issue with the (mis)quote in Amor Prohibido makes me worry that he cannot quote accurately, that he cannot read Spanish (and thinks it Italian)(and yet the erroneous gold and platinum records came from Mexican sources presumably written in Spanish!), and that he does not read book sources carefully (or at all).
It may be that I am just tired of peer reviewing his articles, but I seriously wonder if unblocking him was in the best interests of the encyclopedia. I plan to see what your response is before notifiying AJona1992 or doing anything else (and we can move it to my talk page if you want). I have thought of asking all admins who have blocked AJona1992 to weigh in on my concerns. I have also thought of taking this to ANI, but wanted to start here. In any case I do not plan to block him because I do not want to wheelwar, and more imnportantly I am not a neutral party.
Thanks, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 05:54, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
This is NOT for restoring the article. I only want to know whats in the article and how did my name get used on it.Greg Heffley 20:45, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
(talk→ BWilkins ←track) 21:14, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. --lTopGunl (talk) 15:03, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
Whilst reviewing Donde Quiera Que Estés for WP:GAN, I came across your comment at User talk:AJona1992/Archive 4#Proposed editing restrictions: Perhaps I should have added "you may not nominate any articles for WP:GAN" ... your making an absolute mockery of the process, or perhaps a topic ban from anything related to Selena, broadly construed. The user has several nominations at GAN. The article I have reviewed has only one issue to be fixed, relating to correction of the non-free use rationale. Review is at Talk:Donde Quiera Que Estés/GA1. I post here asking for advice. Is the user in violation of the conditions? Jezhotwells (talk) 15:49, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
Wiqi55 has recently posted a new unblock request: "I've learned my lesson with regards to edit warring, and I see no reason why my efforts should be deemed disruptive (given that I avoid edit warring in the future)." I was going to deny the unblock and suggest that the indefinite block should be kept in place, but I thought I would inquire first if you actually have conditions in your mind under which you would unblock. It is reasonable to leave editors blocked (in my opinion) if they have a sufficiently bad record. In such cases lip service to policy is not a good enough reason to unblock. You are the admin who might have the best data on the 'sufficiently bad record' since I haven't looked into the matter deeply. Previous discussions about Wiqi55 have occurred at:
Thanks for any advice you can provide, EdJohnston (talk) 00:00, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
Sorry man, I know your a good guy. I get heated is all, should not have taken it out on you. Ceoil (talk) 05:27, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
This is a clear vandalism only account. Why so lenient?—Ryulong (竜龙) 12:03, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for your partcipation at my recent successful RFA. In addressing your concerns, I will do my best to live up to the confidence shown in me by others, will move slowly and carefully when using the mop, will seek input from others before any action of which I might be unsure, will expand my efforts to include the more mundane areas, and will try not to break anything beyond repair. Best, Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 22:32, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
The Guidance Barnstar | ||
For giving direction to someone who was sorely in need of it. Well done! WGFinley (talk) 23:21, 6 December 2011 (UTC) |
I have put this user's request for unblock on hold pending your review of the proposal on a 1RR probation as condition for unblocking. Have a look and advise. Thanks! --WGFinley (talk) 23:44, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Hello little B. Good old template is fine. Welcome also use Bishzilla/Welcome template. Model of civility! bishzilla ROARR!! 12:28, 8 December 2011 (UTC).
In relation to your comment at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Boris_Berezovsky, you are right. I just checked, and you are familiar with it because of User_talk:Deepdish7#Blocked. :) Y u no be Russavia ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) 23:35, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
I didn't mean it as an attack on the profession, of course; but if you're a journalist then you know how the sausage is made, I'd be surprised if you couldn't understand where I'm coming from when I say that news media make execrable sources for an encyclopedia. :-) — Coren (talk) 22:05, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi Bwilkins. Just so we're clear, I wasn't trying to force a reply. I was just so aghast by the rudeness of the undo comment that I almost though she had made a mistake. Anyway, thanks for weighing in. Best wishes, 108.82.100.8 (talk) 15:19, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi, as an administrator who is involved in the process of deciding whether punishment is sanctions are merited or not, can i ask for your advice on what do with the following uncivil and abusive actions of User:One Night In Hackney:
This is One Night In Hackney's user talk edit policy which makes it clear that if they wanted to respond to my comment they would have. Their policy also seems to have an uncivil tone.
I (and several others) have been guilty of being minorly uncivil towards One Night In Hackney in a recent content dispute discussion (as have they in return), all instances borne out of frustration, however the above incivility came outside of that discussion and was totally unwarranted considering what it originated over.
So what should i do about this? Take it to AN/I? Request a user conduct report? As i said on my talk page, i'll even have a user conduct report done on me. Mabuska (talk) 12:30, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
Kudos for hatting that mess, but I think "accidental" wasn't quite accurate. "Brief" maybe. 28bytes (talk) 17:30, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi Bwilkins, I just changed the entry ATABEY according your recommendation. Now it can be published ?
Tainosyciboneyes. Tainosyciboneyes (talk) 18:26, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi, What happens to the user talk page if the user wants to permenantly leave Wikipedia? Is it going to be speedy deleted per Wikipedia:UP#Deletion_of_user_talk_pages ? In fact 08:04, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Revision history of Filipa Moniz Perestrelo. [19] : Edit warring (Colon-el-Nuevo) - Fringe theory.
Measures ? When a user is banned ? Thanks in advance for answer. --Davide1941 (talk) 14:32, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for coming to the aid of these edits. I have also uploaded a file - File:Chapel_of_Piety_Carmo_Lisbon.jpg - which can be used for Filipa Moniz's resting place in Carmo whihc could be added to the article.Colon-el-Nuevo (talk) 14:36, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
See [33]. Yworo (talk) 03:03, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
I have a quick question for you. At User talk:Taivo#December 2011, you made a reference to Taivo's block log, and escalating blocks. He had a single previous block, from over two years ago. Would you really have given him a 48 hour block (and a 23 hour for the other edit warrior) because of something that happened two years ago? Horologium (talk) 17:44, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
I'm sorry, i didn't know! thanks for the message Psico pp (talk) 12:41, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi. There was a discussion at ANI a few days ago about an editor who was inserting invisible unicode characters into articles (I won't mention the obvious reason why per WP:BEANS). I was just wondering if you know of any way to detect these kind of invisible characters (such as the soft hyphen) in articles? I don't know how on earth I would go about spotting this kind of disruption. Basalisk inspect damage⁄berate 02:00, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
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Would you mind taking a look here? Does anything look suspicious to you? Toddst1 (talk) 20:07, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi Bwilkins. I am trying to create an article about Noor photo agency and would like to have it reviewed before making it into a final article. If you can take a moment of your time I would appreciate. Thanks. Ina Desk (talk) 13:48, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Really? then I am not sure what a reliable independent source means for references. Coverage on MSNBC, British Journal of Photography, The New York Times, Le Mond "visa pour l'Image award", plus awarded UNHCR: Nansen Award, among many others. Maybe I should link to all the World Press Photo awards but, that seemed a bit to self-promotional.Ina Desk (talk) 16:49, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
I am taking my cue from these guysIna Desk (talk) 16:56, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Are you joking? Seriously? User:3.14159265358pi's comments appeared to me to be a personal attack against me. That seems pretty blatant. WTF? (talk) 22:13, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Sorry about that. Usually, the editors I block are IP vandals, in which case I use the following anonymous block template: ((subst:Uw-ablock|time=Duration|reason=For a different reason|sig=yes)), which does it automatically. Only now do I see that the one I use for registered users (which I don't user often, since I don't often block registered users) didn't contain that value: ((subst:uw-block2|time=duration|reason=reason)) I've fixed this. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 17:43, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
Hello BWilkins. I have noticed that you are more attached to me lately giving me guidance left and right. This is in no way saying that I am not welcoming it. It is much appreciated for the help you are providing me. I would just like to know if you are voluntarily mentoring me or not. Are you?—cyberpower (X-Mas Chat)(Contrib.) 18:21, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
@BWilkins: If you want to be a mentor for me, I have no objections to that. I look forward to your nudging.—cyberpower (X-Mas Chat)(Contrib.) 20:22, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
When you posted your warning on my Talk page, did you read everything I wrote in the Discussion page you mentioned in order to get my side of the story, or did you just take his side because he asked you to? Are you saying that when a clear pattern of conspiratorial and biased editing by a group of 3 or more editors from the same country is noticed on Wikipedia, other editors should just ignore it and not address it at all? Please clarify, because if those are the rules, then my next step will be to effectuate change to those rules as what is happening in the Tuples_in_association_football article is a disgrace to Wikipedia and I will not stand for it. I've been constantly reverted and attacked by the same group of 3 Scotsmen whose original edit yesterday removed all accomplishments except those from a Scottish Football Club. This bias is so transparent it's offensive. JohnMannV (talk) 23:08, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Swarm X 18:27, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi there; I have been a medical practitioner for forty three years, and have five children and eight grand-children. I have never heard the word "wang" as synonym for penis or, indeed, at all. Where have I missed out??!! --Anthony Bradbury"talk" 22:14, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
i dont know u personally. so can u tell me y r u sending me messages did i have sended u message and what is ment by " ... and you should know that this edit is both unconstructive and inappropriate ." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sawant Mukta (talk • contribs) 16:21, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
y u deleted my user page who r u 2 care about my safety.i will think should i keep my user page or not. how u dare 2 do that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sawant Mukta (talk • contribs) 11:50, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
u r stupid, idiot, crazy, cunt, motherfucker. i propely know that this is not a social networking site u sucks y don't u fuck ur users page and y r u keeping an eye on me cuz udont know who i m. u dont know that whole world respects my father. u bloody fucker.(Muks (talk) 12:55, 23 December 2011 (UTC))
I would like your opinion on something. User:JohnMannV began editing Tuples in association football as his first edit we suspected him to be a sock puppet purely because his actions were very similar to User:Subtropical-man who seems to have ceased editing the page I'm still not sure re this. I got into a bit of a confrontation with him which i shouldn't have on his talk page and started a discussion on the articles talk page to try to avoid an edit war. In this edit [34] he accused me and two other editors of being against him and the article because we are Scottish. He repeated it on the article talk page. Im unsure how to proceed with this as don't want to get into a further confrontation. Edinburgh Wanderer 22:47, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.Edinburgh Wanderer 20:57, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
You deleted their userpage again. Talk page still has some chat that might identify them. I guess there is only so much we can do.--Shirt58 (talk) 12:50, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Hello Bwilkins
Sorry to bother you, but I am an IP user recently blocked by swarm based on the request of Topgun http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring .I noticed following the block Topgun did not comment on my article discussion :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Indo-Pakistani_War_of_1971#Content_removal Not only did he not respond to me, after I was blocked, he reverted the article to his edit and then justified it on grounds of my being blocked rather than on substantive grounds. He groundlessly claims vandalism if something is not to his liking, and edit warring/IP socking if all else fails. The bones of contention re: 1971 War article are:
1.whether damage to facilities belongs in the human casualties and losses section of the article infobox 2. if so, whether content should be weighted to favor minor damage rather than the outcome determinative damage
Topgun’s approach of warn/block/page protect first ask questions later is detrimental to good faith and collegiality as seen here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring&diff=prev&oldid=465321801
IP 98 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.165.115.152 (talk) 00:01, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
Ok thank you. The thing is, this goes beyond content--it's a pattern of behavior by one user across multiple pages. I'd reach out to other users, but then I'd prob get a WP:CANVASS. I would also note that the issue is that the other side is NOT discussing, and is in fact going against the consensus. I am not the first editor to raise this issue. The problem is the user edit wars and then blocks everyone else and claims a status quo consensus. This leaves no choice other than to edit war again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.165.115.152 (talk) 01:21, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
Giving incorrect details. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinoy_Big_Brother:_Unlimited "Divine allegedly excluding him." supposed to be "Divine unfairly excluding him." I told him many times to change it yet he insists on not changing it. We even had an edit war...he called be a tard. I mean, do you administrators tolerate that kind of behavior? Cratiod (talk) 11:43, 25 December 2011 (UTC)Cratiod
He still won't follow. He has a very high regard of himself. He will take only his facts into consideration. He is also mean and blunt to other members. If, for example, user X said something like: Pinoy Big Brother's darlings, Eaglestorm would make am edit summary like: PBB's darlings? How stupid. Furthermore, he removed my kindest dispute from his talk page without replying and also called me an idiot and a fantard. I would at least want a reply from him explaining and not a post deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cratiod (talk) 11:43, 25 December 2011 (UTC)Cratiod
He still calls his fellow users "gloaters", "idiotic", "ignorant" and stupid... Cratiod (talk) 11:43, 25 December 2011 (UTC)Cratiod
FWiW Bzuk (talk) 02:16, 25 December 2011 (UTC).
I'm disappointed that my involvement in BusterD's Rfa may have, in your opinion, cost him some support votes. I don't nominate many editors, least not since late 2006...the only one since then besides BusterD was Mike Cline in early 2010...the issue of me being the nominator didn't seem to be raised then, so I must have really disappointed some people subsequently...all everyone has to remember is that I am not running, but I generally pick great candidates as shown at my userpage.--MONGO 03:16, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is User:FDR at the Ages of consent in North America article and in general. Thank you. causa sui (talk) 21:55, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
Re: The sig I'm using. If you really have an issue with it, you could have brought that issue to the talk page I'm also using rather than leaving snarks at various noticeboards. As far as "stealing", perhaps you've read the following:
Nothing we do or write or create in Wikipedia belongs to us, ergo, it's not possible to steal what's left here or have what we create here stolen. (talk→ LesHB ←track) 16:40, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
I hope you catch my drift of what happens when copying other user's "property" as I like to call it. Here's an example for you. The basic layout is a copy of User:Hurricanefan25's and three other editor's layout. When I decided to use it, I asked for permission to copy it. The heading as well as the transclusion barrier on my page is a slightly modified version of User:Ryulong's who also had given me permission to copy it. It helps to avoid confusion and possible apprehension in the future.—cyberpower (X-Mas Chat)(Contrib.) 23:29, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
An IP being reported at ANI can't respond, could you un-protect ANI? Cheers Basalisk inspect damage⁄berate 16:50, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
Your statement for the MF case looked most useful, I was going through your contribs looking for a diff to it and was glad to see you've already made it into an essay. Just as a fyi, I posted a link to it on one of the arb boards . FeydHuxtable (talk) 21:38, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
Just FYI, that piece which you think is real is a fake. There are several different ones circulating around (once with her listed address as Los Angeles, which is not true and another that lists her birth year as 1984). There are different versions of that paper that's supposedly from the Dallas PD. In fact, Nicki Minaj herself has openly claimed that she was born in 1984 in Trinidad & Tobago (in her own words). Her official facebook, which she maintains herself, lists 1984 as her birth year. Bastian (talk) 02:22, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
Re [35]; while I agree with the thought, unfortunately that's not observed in practice. One of my few article space contributions was dealing with: apparent weight [36] sat as a zero source, original research, textbook page for years. To get it changed to its current RS stub (which pretty duplicates the existing Weight#Apparent_weight) took months of discussion on the talk page, a twice relisted and ultimately failed Afd. If with followed a consensus on a merger proposal which was ignored and slow edit warred over, referral to WP:DRN which was then forum shopped to Wiki project physics. The usual accusations of malfeasance after responding to a WQA are much easier to deal with! Nobody Ent (Gerardw) 11:41, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
So you won't mind if I call you a vandal/sockpuppet some time in the future? Or alter people's comments numerous times despite being explicitly warned not to? Cool, I guess I can treat this website just like a discussion forum then! What fun! Twafotfs (talk) 12:21, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
This is user is really at it. He just sent me a YouTube video, or very offensive content. The link to the video is on his talk page, and I really believe he's being really patronizing. He made a personal attack on me. He did. According to your guidelines, it says here:
“ | Linking to external attacks, harassment, or other material, for the purpose of attacking another editor. | ” |
Is a personal attack. I hope you sort this situation out. TrebleSeven (talk) 09:54, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
Ok. Thank-you, Bwilkins. TrebleSeven (talk) 12:12, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
Regarding your revert, sorry but I missed that request in your edit notice. Happy New Year! -- Trevj (talk) 08:22, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, I am a newbie at this. I'd like to rename the title of the article, "User:71.190.77.2/Love Eterne (2010)" which is confusing and not helpful to the more meaningful "Love Eterne (film)". From my understanding, an article name can be "moved" if the editor is a member of a group that has permission to do so such as the Autoconfirmed Users group. Any way to tell approximately when my account will reach the threshold to meet that requirement? Thanks.--Prz4587ill (talk) 21:35, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
OK. Thanks --Prz4587ill (talk) 01:06, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
Just a quick question: Can you nominate more than one picture for PotD? TrebleSeven (talk) 10:03, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, I don't want to get in trouble for anything, that's all. TrebleSeven (talk) 10:05, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
I was a little surprised that you told Protector of Wiki that any future un-ban requests must go through BASC. I was under the impression that since it was community imposed (and only "de facto", not by full consensus), he could apply for removal of the ban by going to the community. Have I missed something here? WormTT · (talk) 20:08, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
Are you sure you've got this right? Isn't a community ban more along the lines of when no one is prepared to unblock? Clearly there are very many editors who are prepared to unblock and it seems to me far fairer for the default assumption to be in the blockee's favour. Certainly I don't feel that "clear, unequivocal consensus" is the right standard to be using for an unblock request, and therefore I would ask that you re-open things - if not to reopen the discussion of PoW's block itself, then at least to discuss whether your close and interpreation of policy was correct.
Having said that if you disagree with me about re-opening it, I will argue a little bit more with you here, then if you refuse to budge I will give up. So I don't care that much
Cheers,
Egg Centric 21:21, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
Hello, may I ask you to help me argue with the statement that IMDB is not a reliable source. It has worldwide coverage, strict eligibility criteria for titles, owned by Amazon, there are millions of references to this source in the web and other media. It is considered reliable by millions! Wikipedia is also user generated, but due to the policy is considered to be reliable source as well! May I ask to approve IMDB as a proper source and restore http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Silent_Life&action=edit&redlink=1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by MisterFirst (talk • contribs) 07:08, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
I am writing an article about a persons contibution....with the valid source y u r deleting it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asadwazir23 (talk • contribs) 17:24, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Hello, I tried to make some changes (and delete) to the info I added to the Clignett article. So why is deleting info I added considered vandalism? --Clignett73 (talk) 16:52, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Thank you, --Clignett73 (talk) 20:28, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
I think i have been getting it today, though. I haven't received any warnings. I've clicked the minor edit box.--Clignett73 (talk) 18:56, 8 January 2012 (UTC) Thank you for the changes on the article. I'd like to know if i can remove some of the sources Beaulosagne added, without any problem. I think some don't have to be there. It looks a bit 'messy'.--Clignett73 (talk) 19:09, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, i been trying to get the ref part right, but some how it's not working. I'll change that when i have more time (have 2 year old who also needs my attention). Q: Why would you think most of the notable people in the article are questionable? Salute --Clignett73 (talk) 12:51, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
Well, maybe no one ever tried to make an article about them? I have seen an article of a family name which only had a name of lists with no ref to articles, i'll let you know when i find the article again. Thank you for clarifying, though. --Clignett73 (talk) 14:28, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
The more I look into this, the curiouser and curiouser it gets. First, I notice how similar the signature of this editor who's been borderline harassing another user that (coincidentally?) had been repeatedly harassed by a certain banned user. Then, upon further research, this. Do you know who I suspect that this really is? I'll give you one guess. A SPI report will be forthcoming. Doc talk 12:29, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
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The following IPs (same person)
continue removing sourced and relevant content, editing disruptively in support of a certain pov. It is very likely that the IP has some connection to one of the editors which have been involved in the disputes. I have also notified Magog. Maybe you can give me an advise on what I should do with regards to these recent disruptive edits and this recent disruptive removal of balanced and sourced content. JCAla (talk) 10:21, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
Yet another. JCAla (talk) 21:45, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
Dear bwilkins i m Sawant Mukta u have blockedmy account when u gonna unblock it.(116.202.167.6 (talk) 13:15, 10 January 2012 (UTC))
It seems your chat with Screwball did not work since he's decided to begin edit warring again.--William S. Saturn (talk) 05:39, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
How is it that despite your stating that SonofSetanta is violating WP:OUTING and they were "duly warned to knock it off" by you, that not only do they ignore your warning, but you continue to indulge them at the ANI discussion. I've ignored both the discussion on ANI and the AE for the most part despite being mentioned in it, but when I see, despite your explicit warning, this editor actively perpetuating and encouraging future disruptive practices which may or may not have set this in motion I have to ask how come. Who made them aware and when? Was it by private email which is being encouraged now? Or is this person acting in the background trying to stir the pot? Any which way it seems to be a bit of a farce IMHO.--Domer48'fenian' 20:34, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
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For this block summary. Keep that tongue firmly in cheek in the new year! The Bushranger One ping only 23:50, 11 January 2012 (UTC) |
I'm sorry for blocking your bot, but as far as I can tell, its only tasks are G7 and U1 deletions, yet it has also been deleting a number of user talk pages, whereas both G7 and U1 explicitly exclude user talk pages from their remit. I thought that less damage would be done if the bot were needlessly out of action for a while (if I've blocked it unnecessarily) than if potentially important user talk pages were deleted (if it is indeed not meant to be doing that and were to keep going), and so decided to block for now and then discuss the matter with you. It Is Me Here t / c 23:56, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
I've give up on the ANI thread as in just getting angry about being treated badly. Could you answer if it's possible as I asked at ANI for an interaction ban. Edinburgh Wanderer 13:30, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Talking here so that I don't disrupt a truly muddled talk page. I'd just like to note that he has been adhering to 1RR: he just makes the exact same edit every week, despite it getting instantly reverted every time he makes it. Slow-motion edit warring isn't helped by 1RR restrictions.—Kww(talk) 15:41, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Is that box you use one you are coding by hand? It would seem a template for those would be in order, many times I've put similar unblock restrictions in place and then the restriction gets archived or removed from the talk page and no one knows it was in place. --WGFinley (talk) 17:28, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Hey Bwilkins. Thank you again. I will not let you down. I have a quick question there is an article where an editor linked two names that don't have a page, so it is a red link. Without any trouble may I unlink those two becuase they don't have a page anyway?? Thanks. TVFAN24 (talk) 17:52, 15 January 2012 (UTC)