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you were on the news because of Wikipedia? also i don't know if you saw but they really want stuff under Personnel under a subheader instead of bolded. I've seen on some album pages where it's not put into categories and just one big section, so I've been erasing "Production" and stuff. --Jennica✿Talk21:08, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
What do you think about this Desire (Bob_Dylan_album) -- the tracklisting side by side? I've never seen that. Do you think it's against the style guideline? also i believe critical reception is in the wrong spot but maybe i'm just being picky --Jennica✿Talk08:31, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Jennica: Scanning it--not actually reading the content--the only problem I see is excessive un-free media: one photo and three sound clips is too much. What do you have in mind? A lot of Bob Dylan album articles have trivial bloat and unreferenced sections. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯02:31, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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At the bottom of this page, it has the albums listed. "Adam and Eve" should be bolded to indicate the current page you're viewing. How do I do this? The next album has it but I can't figure out how to do it and I don't know what it's called so I can't reference it elsewhere. Thanks --Jennica✿Talk10:52, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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I was wondering.. I like doing mundane tasks. I was told when using AWB I could get in trouble for so many edits within a minute. If I were to go through and change all reflist | colwidth=30 to 30em, could I get permission to fly through those real fast? It's a depreciated code as you might know. Also if I could go through and do the "reflist|3" and change them all to 30em? --Jennica✿ talk / contribs05:51, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Jennica: Using AWB excessively quickly will flood Special:RecentChanges and if you have something that is really an automated task, having a bot do it is usually better for a few reasons: they can be marked with the flood flag so that they are ignored by certain reports and if you have a bot then you will have to pass through a process of review and consensus. In your example of changing reflist|3 to reflist|30em there may be some reasons to use a different parameter. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯06:04, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello again. I have a question regarding Personnel this time. After looking at the Personnel section on the album style guide, I need some clarification. I "overhaul" a lot of personnel sections but it doesn't say anything about this in the guide. Appetite_for_Destruction#Personnel for instance. The engineers are all clumped together [and even has a swear word in it, which is another question]. They should definitely be un-clumped correct? And I know the F word may be from the album liner notes but does that mean it should be wiki like that? --Jennica✿ talk / contribs06:51, 22 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Jennica: Per the style guide (as well as common sense), we should not include every person just because he's listed in the credits. So "special thanks" and "tattoos" are not roles that need to be explained in our articles--especially since they are sometimes virtually endless. As far as the clumping "Joe, John, Jane – producers", I am definitely against that, especially since sometimes Joe is also an engineer or Jane made the album cover. It makes it needlessly complex in my opinion. Just list everyone in alphabetical order with some minor division between the main performer(s) and everyone else and that is the most logical system in most cases. The other big alternative is when personnel change from song to song and you list them by song. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯07:19, 22 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Jennica: I would use "personnel" because "credits" could lead you down the rabbit hole of all of the "thank you"s and "tattoo artist"s mentioned above--clearly those aren't personnel even if they are listed in some credits. I'm thankful for you this year, Jennica. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯02:38, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Koavf: don't make me blush lol! and thanks. i will change these but I feel like it might catch a little flack with some users. I am particular and adamant about consistency involving album pages! --Jennica✿ talk / contribs02:42, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Jennica: As am I. It's very rare that something shouldn't be standardized, especially when it comes to about half of the content and 90% of the structure of a page about an album. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯02:43, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
What to do about this? Andrew Giddings - too many images in my opinion for how little content and very strange photo choices. Removing them from the page doesn't feel right..
@Jennica: I removed one picture--it was a little blurry and I don't know that it added much to the article. One becomes an admin through the RfA process. First, someone nominates you (this can be yourself), and then you are asked questions and other users vote. I have done this a couple of times and like an idiot, I always seem to give my common sense answers to these questions rather than what they are intended to be--quizzing that appeals to policy and guidelines explicitly. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯16:06, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Koavf: - weird question: can admins get in trouble for that kind of thing? not adhering the general upkeep of the site? it seems so ironic to me... and it drives me a little nuts thinking about it how someone with "the power" is not helping with the general upkeep. i know it's really minor and all. I did message him but he hasn't replied back [despite editing stuff after I sent a message to his talk]. I corrected many of his articles. It felt sort of odd asking an admin to please not leave bare references. i thought they'd all know not to do that.
Also, another question [I know, I know..] - is it "Charts" or "Chart positions". I see both but in the MOS, it just says "Charts". I realize I might be pedantic. sorry! --Jennica✿ talk / contribs23:57, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Jennica: Those are reasonable questions. Admins are users just like you who aren't required to do any particular work (although an inactive admin may have his advanced rights removed). As long as his edits aren't detrimental to the encyclopedia, then you could ask politely or tag his edits or use a script to fix them but there's no real process for correcting the behavior other than that. And, of course, everyone makes mistakes or just gets busy and is in a hurry. But I agree that it is a minor frustration. I always use "Chart positions" because "Charts" can mean any kind of chart/graph. I realize in practice that no one is including pie graphs in album articles but I still feel like it's better to use a phrase which is clear rather than a single word which is slightly ambiguous. Nitpick on my part. Thanks for being so active. Happy Thanksgiving, fellow editor. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯15:07, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm - I always try to take your word for it because you wrote [most if not all?] the MOS... but some people have disagreed with me about it. interesting to me. it's not like I'm the only one who has ever put it on an album page.. I've seen it on several! --Jennica✿ / talk04:41, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Jennica: This kind of stuff drives me up the wall--that's why I tried to standardize a lot of this awhile ago. But others have different opinions and it's not like there was really that much of a consensus. The whole thing about style is that one or another way could be correct in a given context. It bothers me when they are different across articles, though. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯05:07, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- it looks like they've followed me around and changed it, too, and they're just saying "avoid heading". Why though? They never said. If they want me to stop, why not address it to me? The lack of consistency is what drives me nuts too. Oh well, I suppose. --Jennica✿ / talk05:10, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
PS: what really annoys me is the format that editors seem to have taken with the singles/song pages. the songs wikiproject says it's a sister project to the albums project, so it's supposed to sort of follow the MOSALBUM... I was told that S&M (song) is the go-to example for song article formats. I barely ever touch the formatting on songs now. I'd rather there be a direct MOS of the page I'm editing and there isn't one for Single songs specifically. I don't want to get reamed for doing something "out of the norm" lol. --Jennica✿ / talk05:34, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I come with another question. This time regarding succession boxes, which to my understanding belong at the bottom. This one however, has references in it and when I move it to the bottom, it creates a second reflist. Should I leave it or it there a way to format it besides removing the references? I've seen the reflists with the "reflist" part and then a list of links succeeding it.. i wonder if that can be done?--Jennica✿ talk / contribs21:47, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Jennica: I was busy in meatspace for a few days. It's good to have these templates in case a web site changes its structure (like Rolling Stone or AllMusicGuide have done in the years since I've been here, breaking thousands of links). It's a little cumbersome but totally worth it. I am a big fan of moving references to the ((Reflist)) template to keep the main text of an article more clean and accessible but that's not really much o fa problem with these chart successions since they are fairly logical tables anyway. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯04:44, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Koavf: oh.. I might have not explained it well enough. I was talking about these kinds of succession boxes: A_Hard_Day's_Night_(album)#Chart_succession - I believe the correct placement is beneath the reflist like so: Hello_Nasty. It's not really stated in the album guide but the rule is that nav boxes on other kinds of pages go on the bottom like "Hello Nasty". PS: I've come across a user who had a sockpuppet account and it was 'banned', now they're back to making edits for awhile now. sloppy edits. so why isn't their current account blocked for good? --Jennica✿ / talk06:24, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Jennica: Oh no--I misread you. I don't know that there has ever been a clear idea about placement--I usually do it at the bottom of the page like it's a navbox, since it leads you away to other articles. Many editors today don't insert them or outright remove them. If there's an editor who is using sockpuppets and hasn't been stopped, it's only because an admin hasn't noticed yet. If you post to WP:AN, then I'm sure they will be glad for it. Was your Thanksgiving good? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯17:06, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Jennica: I don't know that it's notable unless you put it in some context, like the band toured and performed this song but never that song, etc. Something. But this is unreferenced, so it should be deleted anyway. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯04:46, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi! I noticed that you've created Category:Articles with International Music Score Library Project links. It was a good idea, thanks! But I think that it'd be even better if we had two different subcategories for composers and works. Would you mind if I go ahead and edit the template in order to implement this? Is there anyone using this category that should be informed of the proposed changes (bot owners, maybe)? —capmo (talk) 02:42, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Capmo: No and no! Go for it. Thanks for asking first. You could even keep the container category so that we see all links to the Project and then have the two subcats as well. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯05:11, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Do you agree with this? I thought reception would mainly be used for a combo of critical and commercial. Critical reception feels correct to me because it's talking about critics reception of it. I've seen some FAs that don't coincide with the MOSALBUM.. so I don't think his reasoning is unjustified. PS: I thought you were an admin for a bit lol that's why I was asking you all those questions about blocked users and other adminy stuff. sorry! --Jennica✿ / talk14:51, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Jennica: It's true that the style guide isn't so normative simply because a lot of what I wrote was implicit rather than explicit (e.g. alphabetical order for listing personnel). I still stand behind my rationale but explaining that rationale in the style guide would probably be wise (and open up a discussion about best practices, etc.) No need to apologize--that happens to me regularly. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯15:49, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oh alright. I guess I'll leave it be. There are some things I wish that were a little more explicit and less vague in the MOSALBUM... then perhaps I wouldn't ask so many questions haha --Jennica✿ / talk16:05, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm blanking how I would even start such a topic! Lemme marinate on it for a bit I guess. I have a bad memory -- but there's always some things that I think could be improved on. Like Charts vs Chart positions, etc. It could get really pedantic. lol --Jennica✿ / talk16:20, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Infovarius: With that message above? Copy and paste it here please. Alternately, you may be editing a page which has previously had a bad word added and the spam filter has changed since then--that will catch you sometimes. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯17:21, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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I saw that back in June 2011 you did a redirect of what I assume was an actually article for Better Than Ezra's debut album Surprise. I found it rather strange that there wasn't an article for it here on Wikipedia and I've been debating whether or not to write one. But unless I'm misinterpreting something here, it appears there was an article for it at one time and you redirected it. If that was the case, could you tell me why you redirected it? I'm guessing it had something to do with the fact that it was a cassette-only album at the time. Whatever your reasons were for redirecting it, I was wondering if you agree it could be put back now the album has been reissued by the band and made available in other formats. Thanks. Shaneymike (talk) 01:39, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Shaneymike: I did create this redirect but as far as I can tell, there wasn't a previous article by this name. Usually there would be a link in the form of something like Wikipedia:Articles for Deletion/Surprise_(Better_Than_Ezra_album) but that doesn't exist. Whether or not an article can be created is contingent not on whether it's been released but how many sources there are to discuss it in some meaningful fashion. E.g. there was an article for Chinese Democracy for several years before it was released because there were many, many sources discussing it. Similarly, there are nearly infinite albums which do not and will not have articles because they would not be sourced. If you have some sources, then I say go for it! —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯02:40, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I've Googled the album, and it looks like there are enough sources to warrant an article. I've written quite a few album articles that I probably should delete at some point as those articles are far less notable than Surprise by BTE. Feel free to visit my user page and go over said articles and let me know what you think. Shaneymike (talk) 14:31, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I joined Wikipedia recently and have been editing regularly since then, and I now know quite a bit about Wikipedia. I am keen for becoming a student ambassador in my University and conduct activities pertaining to Wikipedia. May I receive your guidelines for becoming a student ambassador?I am new so do you think my application for the student ambassador will be applicable?Adityavagarwal (talk) 06:46, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Adityavagarwal: It's easiest if your university already has something set up or if you at least know a professor who is already interested in using Wikipedia in the classroom. Is that already true for you? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯06:48, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Adityavagarwal: Yes, is your university using Wikipedia in a course already? Do you have a relationship with a professor who would like to use Wikipedia in the classroom? I went to training for it--it's really best to do before you try to be a campus ambassador. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯06:55, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Adityavagarwal: I'm glad you're excited. Just guessing from your screenname that you are in India (correct me if I'm wrong): you may want to seek out someone in the Education Program who is from there to give you guidance. I would also recommend that you spend more time getting acquainted with Wikipedia and how it operates--diving into a project without much training or discipline can result in a lot of hardship. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯07:04, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You mean this link ? I do not think there is any education programs nearby. The cities like Mangalore,etc. which are present in the link are too far from here.Do you know some other link for a list of cities? Perhaps I might have gotten the wrong linkAdityavagarwal (talk) 07:20, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Adityavagarwal: There may not be anyone nearby, so training may not be an option. The next best thing is to simply familiarize yourself by editing. I can tell you are learning and enthusiastic but it's important to become really familiar before you try to coordinate a project. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯07:23, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
A project means let us say there is a course named Python, so in the classroom itself while teaching the subject the teacher uses Wikipedia too right? Maybe this link is the right one?Adityavagarwal (talk) 07:26, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Adityavagarwal: I would recommend against trying to start any classroom projects now. For them to be successful, you need to put a lot of thought and effort into them. See outreach:Best practices and https://wikiedu.org/. Get a feel for what they say, keep on editing here for a few months, and then try to really think through how you can be an asset to the university and this encyclopedia. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯07:49, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Adityavagarwal: I think that an edit-a-thon actually requires a lot more resources since your potential editors won't be students who are obliged to be there. I definitely respect your enthusiasm but it's still pretty early for you to be organizing events--I simply don't want to see you have one fail. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯09:03, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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