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Theroadislong (talk) 15:25, 5 June 2021 (UTC)Hello, I'm Pablomartinez. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions—specifically this edit to GypsyCrusader—because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help desk. Thanks. PabloMartinez (talk) 16:02, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
Please accept this compliment - from what I have seen of your contributions, in my opinion your ability to communicate in English approaches en4. Narky Blert (talk) 22:53, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
"Before I undo your edit on anti-French sentiment" was what you titled the section. It made me laugh. It's poorly sourced AND it's WP:UNDUE and that addition would stand zero chance in an RfC, and I think you know that. So before you start an edit war and risk getting blocked by an administrator, consider these facts. I'm happy to ask the community about your POV edits. You will absolutely get slapped down on that one. Cheers! Benicio2020 (talk) 23:40, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
I've redacted part of your comment on Talk:Kenosha unrest shooting on BLP grounds. As he was found not guilty, we cannot be saying that he is guilty of a crime. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:32, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
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Please be careful with statements that accuse a BLP subject of committing crimes without evidence. Springee (talk) 16:58, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
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In regards to this, I hope that you do not mind if I comment here, so as to avoid further bloating the talk page. I also hope that The Four Deuces can reply you back because I think that it would be an interesting exchange, especially to finally discuss it with not the same users. My comment is that you engaged in a slippery slope that is unjustified, and that all those topics you mentioned are closer to the World War II because while there may be disagreement, as is often the case in academia, I am not aware of any mainstream scientific sources that dispute those topics as a whole; on the other hand, there are mainstream scholarly sources that have disputed the grouping in this context.1 It does not mean that the Communist grouping is never done or acceptable, which is not something I have ever said, but that in this topic it is inadeguate and not supported by sources.
The grouping is applied to sport and religion (e.g. "Religion under Communism" and "Sport under Communism") but not to mass killings or excess deaths, and not to Communism as a whole. We say Communist regimes but in practice the few sources that do the grouping (again, they do it in works about mass killings in general, so why must we cherry pick passages and chapters, as if their main focus is Communism, and do this only for Communism rather than Mass killings in history?) mainly limit themselves to three Communist leaders (Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot) who are recognized to have engaged in mass killings (50,000 killings within five years, which is the most used criteria).
Finally, no other encyclopedia does this; the only other one who did it is not the Encyclopedia Britannica but Conservapedia and Metapedia, and we do this only for Communism (your argument is precisely why we do not do it for other regime types like capitalism or fascism because it would be OR/SYNTH to do so without scholarly sources establishing mass killings under ... regimes as a topic). This should be telling and is something to consider very seriously. I support treating the topic as majority of sources do, e.g. mass killings in history, not mass killings by ideology, geography, language, regime type, etc. Scholarly sources discuss them in general works about mass killings,2 and we should respect this.
1. Dallin, Alexander (Winter 2000). "Review. Reviewed Work: The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression by Stéphane Courtois, Nicolas Werth, Jean-Louis Panné, Andrzej Paczkowski, Karel Bartošek, Jean-Louis Margolin, Jonathan Murphy, Mark Kramer". Slavic Review. 59 (4). Cambridge, England: Cambridge University Press: 883. doi:10.2307/2697429. JSTOR 2697429. Whether all these cases, from Hungary to Afghanistan, have a single essence and thus deserve to be lumped together—just because they are labeled Marxist or communist—is a question the authors scarcely discuss.
David-Fox, Michael (Winter 2004). "On the Primacy of Ideology. Soviet Revisionists and Holocaust Deniers (In Response to Martin Malia)". Kritika: Explorations in Russian and Eurasian History. 5 (1). Bloomington, Indiana: Slavic: 81–105. doi:10.1353/kri.2004.0007. S2CID 159716738. Malia thus counters by coining the category of 'generic Communism,' defined everywhere down to the common denominator of party movements founded by intellectuals. (Pol Pot's study of Marxism in Paris thus comes across as historically more important than the gulf between radical Soviet industrialism and the Khmer Rouge's murderous anti-urbanism.) For an argument so concerned with justifying The Black Book, however, Malia's latest essay is notable for the significant objections he passes by. Notably, he does not mention the literature addressing the statistical-demographic, methodological, or moral dilemmas of coming to an overall communist victim count, especially in terms of the key issue of how to include victims of disease and hunger.
2. It is Final Solutions: Mass Killing and Genocide in the 20th Century, not Final Solutions: Mass Killing and Genocide under Communist Regimes; The Dark Side of Democracy: Explaining Ethnic Cleansing, not The Dark Side of Communism: Explaining Ethnic Cleansing; Purify and Destroy: The Political Uses of Massacre and Genocide, not Purify and Destroy: The Communist Uses of Massacre and Genocide; and Why Not Kill Them All?: The Logic and Prevention of Mass Political Murder, not Why Not Kill Them All?: The Logic and Prevention of Communist Mass Murders. Can one truly look at their own publisher's synopsis and tell me that Communism is their main focus?
Davide King (talk) 17:52, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
"We have a lot of books and monographs that provide a neutral and balanced description of WWII as a topic. However, we have virtually no such books about MKuCR: a couple of sources that discuss this topic are highly controversial, and other works do not discuss the topic as a whole, and they focus on subtopics (or more global topics) instead." —Paul Siebert
"WWII is also a single unified topic with no serious (overarching) dispute over what falls under it, or over if and how the things that fall under it are connected. None of this is true here, which means that collecting events, framing them as mass killings, and lumping them together into a single unified topic becomes WP:SYNTHESIS unless the discussion is informed by, structured according to, and attributed to secondary sources, with appropriate text in each case being devoted to underlying academic disputes." —Aquillion
"The reason there is an article on WWII is that there is academic consensus that the various wars were part of a larger war, viz, WWII. There is no consensus that killings in Stalin's Soviet Union, etc., are part of a pattern of MKuCR." —The Four Deuces
"autocratic regimes, especially communist, are prone to mass killings generically, but not so strongly inclined toward gene-politicide."But I would not know how this is to be structured, or how a table of content would look like; as showed by Valentino and reality, remove leaders like Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot, and large-scale mass killings are going to prevented. While they still ruled authoritarian regimes, there were indeed no large-scale mass killings under Khruscev and Gorbachev. You may find useful what I wrote here, especially the collapsed notes No. 4 and No. 5. That is why I prefer, and understand, B not as you summarized, which I agree it may still be SYNTH, but rather to be more like my proposed sandbox, which you commented as such:
"Your sandbox would definitely improve the article by a margin, but that is assuming that all the offending sources within the article are removed, but from your previous comments I learned that you intended to remove them anyway, so it would be a step toward the right direction."
Hi, obviously I agree with your position there, and obviously if this were a partisan thing I wouldnt be making that note. But since the discussion substantially focuses on the Arab-Israeli topic area I have marked the accounts that, per an arbitration decision, have fewer than the 500 edits to participate in project-space discussions related to the topic area. As there has been no formal determination on whether or not it is covered I have not removed your comment or stricken it. But I do think the closer should be aware that if they view this as related to the Arab-Israeli conflict topic that accounts with fewer than 500 edits should not be factored in to the consensus. I am sorry if this feels unfair, but this specific topic, CounterPunch as a source, has seen a ton of disruption, with substantial sockpuppetry and banned users mass-emailing for votes. You can leave your comment there, but please dont remove my note. Thank you. nableezy - 23:47, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
There are a couple of images on your page that are eye-catching, and while I haven't tried to unravel the context you provide, reds and whatever yellows are, wouldn't their absence be an improvement? ~ cygnis insignis 20:07, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
Hi MarioSuperstar77 can you approve my revision on Keem's page on trollpedia. My account is ToDelete Aaron106 (talk) 09:21, 4 July 2022 (UTC)