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Richard Wagner (1813–83) was a German composer, theatre director, polemicist, and conductor primarily known for his operas. His compositions, particularly those of his later period, are notable for their complex textures, rich harmonies and orchestration, and the elaborate use of leitmotifs—musical phrases associated with individual characters, places, ideas or plot elements. These innovations greatly influenced the development of classical music; his Tristan und Isolde is sometimes described as marking the start of modern music. Wagner revolutionised opera through his concept of synthesising the poetic, visual, musical and dramatic arts. He first realised these ideas in his four-opera cycle The Ring of the Nibelung. He had his own opera house built at Bayreuth, containing many novel design features, where his most important stage works continue to be performed in an annual festival run by his descendants. Wagner's controversial writings on music, drama and politics have attracted extensive comment in recent decades, especially where they express antisemitic sentiments. The effect of his ideas can be traced in many of the arts throughout the 20th century. (Full article...)
UcuchaBot (talk) 23:02, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
Do you know anything about it? Double sharp (talk) 13:22, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
"But 1024 isn't divisible by 6!! Or is this part of the whole affair's inexplicability?" Yes. In the column (5-Aug-1977) Rasp signs a document handed to him by a besuited man carrying a briefcase who appears from a chasm in the pitch. The column the following week makes the same indivisibilty point, suggesting that the contract was with ". . . Certain Agencies, which in cases like this usually try to suggest at an early stage that there is no limit to their thaumaturgic powers". Denham062 (talk) 15:05, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to delete or edit legitimate talk page comments, as you did at Richard Wagner, you may be blocked from editing. This covers the premature archiving of discussions. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:11, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
...Das Judenthum in der Musik (itself a redirect from Wagner and anti-Semitism) is in the publications subcategory, but actually I think that might be better off redirecting to Wagner_controversies#Antisemitism. Then the redirect could be put in useful categories. What do you think? –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 20:25, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
Also a discussion started here, if you're interested, on placement of bios in anti-semitic categories. Category_talk:Antisemitism_in_the_United_States --Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 23:51, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
Dear Smerus,
Thanks for your response on the talk page of the article Richard Wagner. As per your suggestion on the talk page, I am adding the text quoting Howard Goodall on Wagner music in the article Wagner controversies. thanks Robin klein (talk) 17:32, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Why do you call my edits disruptive? I don't believe saying Meyerbeer wasn't inventive in terms of harmony (or music in general) is a verifiable statement. Certainly his contemporaries wouldn't have agreed! And they especially praised his rhythmic sense. Meyerbeer's contemporaries (the ones in the best position to judge) thought he was a revolutionary figure. Moreover, I don't see why this type of statement is obligatory on Meyerbeer but is never found in Mozart or Wagner pages. A professional violinist I know said if Mozart had died 5 years sooner, no one would have ever heard of him. I'm not going to put that on his wikipedia article, even though it's probably a true statement. I know a professional cellist who told me she thought Boccherini was better than Mozart because Mozart stole most of his ideas from Boccherini. (And plenty from Piccini) I'm not putting that on his web page. So leave Meyerbeer alone! He was a great man. Talk about the good things he did, no unverifiable meaningless criticisms please! Everybody has feet of clay. EVERYBODY. Meyerbeer13 (talk) 06:50, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
1) Please respond on editors' talk pages, not their main pages, to avoid disruption.
2) As I tried to explain to you on your own talk page, what you or I think is not of interest to Wikipedia. It is interested in reporting sourced material from respected commentators (whether or not you or I as individuals respect them). See WP:NPOV. Please take some time to read the Wikipedia standards which are referred to in the comments by myself and others on your talk page. If of course you decide that these standards are not for you, there is no compulsion for you to continue editing Wikipedia.
Best, --Smerus (talk) 07:00, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
You don't seem to understand what I mean when I say unverifiable. No matter how respected someone is, something that is unverifiable and/or meaningless for different reasons should be mercilessly deleted not only from wikipedia but from musicology in general, because it makes us look ridiculous. For example, saying something you could say about anyone, for instance saying a composer at his best is a good composer -- that is meaningless but it has a negative connotation, you always look at the best work, not the bad work. Beethoven was pretty uneven, but "respected commentators" don't point that out. So when people make that kind of comment about Meyerbeer I find it not only annoying but worthless. The good thing about Wikipedia is that it often has much more interesting criticism than the standard things people write. Certain figures like Meyerbeer attract a lot of garbage, found (unfortunately) throughout the "respected commentator" literature, but that doesn't make it any less garbage. You can also learn things from Wikipedia that no one ever has (to my knowledge) pointed out, for instance there was a discussion about how little Meyerbeer wrote of Africaine, some people apparently think he didn't really write much of the version completed after his death. I don't know whether that's true or not, but it's a very interesting point. Certainly he got the libretto early on, I believe before he even did Prophete, and he was locked in a death struggle with Scribe over the Indian religion scenes Scribe wanted. That's what makes the two comedies interesting -- I personally believe they were the real operas of Meyerbeer's final maturity.
Another point: all these things only exist with good performances. Most performances of obscure works tend not to do them justice. Now when we hear a bad performance of Mozart, we chalk it up to the performers. With Meyerbeer, Auber, Piccinni, Traetta etc etc we blame the music. But music doesn't exist without the performer. Check out my two le philtre excerpts on my youtube channel to see if you don't hear the difference between the tenor and soprano there and most of today's singers.
Best,
Meyerbeer13 (talk) 07:21, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Alas for you, the nature of Wikipedia is that it seeks to rule out the subjective. That is one of the rules of the club, if you want to play along. I disagree with a lot of stuff that is up there but that is just my opinion, and editors' own opinions count as WP:OR and are inelgible. You just have to live with it - or live without it. As long as you put up your own opinons without citations, expect to have them reverted, and/or expect some editor to seek to exclude you permanently. Again, I urge you to read the rules. Best, --Smerus (talk) 07:29, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Why is it OK for you to post something subjective, just because it's said by an "authority"? That doesn't make it any less subjective. My so called disruptive editing was trying to get rid of gratuitous subjective comments that were disparaging to the subjects of the article.
If there are no opinions allowed, then it shouldn't matter who has those opinions; I would respect that. But that's apparently not the way it works.
Best, Meyerbeer13 (talk) 17:33, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Richard Wagner (1813–83) was a German composer, theatre director, polemicist, and conductor primarily known for his operas. His compositions, particularly those of his later period, are notable for their complex textures, rich harmonies and orchestration, and the elaborate use of leitmotifs—musical phrases associated with individual characters, places, ideas or plot elements. These innovations greatly influenced the development of classical music; his Tristan und Isolde is sometimes described as marking the start of modern music.
Isn't all this subjective?
Meyerbeer13 (talk) 17:44, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Note: A discussion regarding User:Meyerbeer13 is currently taking place at WP:ANI. Toccata quarta (talk) 19:49, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
"Jewry in Music: Entry to the Profession from the Enlightenment to Richard Wagner" Do you think Wagner was Jewish? Just asking! Meyerbeer13 (talk) 02:18, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
After the move to more specific, I repaired most of the broken links, but still find a link to Bassoon Quintet to the other works listed in ((Graham Waterhouse)). What is it that I don't see? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:18, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
Will do. I have in the last hour cleared my decks of promised reviews at GAN and FAC, and so will be pleased to give old Alkan a review. I know next to nothing about him except for his macabre end, and shall enjoy learning more. Tim riley (talk) 13:31, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Your reaction to Jusdafax at ANI surprised me.
I know that ANI is for behavior not content, so while I think the disagreement between Andy and Nikkimaria is rooted in disagreements about content, I accepted that the ANI thread should concentrate on behavior. Roughly speaking, I think neither party is close to exemplary, both have afield to take ordinary steps we expect editors with a few hundred edits to follow. Behavior such as this by editors with tens of thousands of edits deserves community disapproval. However, I do not see that blocks are warranted, and both deserve trouts. Obviously, my position hasn't been supported, but I haven't seen any other proposal gain consensus.
That said, I don't see the problem going away unless we either solve the underlying problem, or get them to agree to stay away from each other, which simply means pretending the problems don't exist. Those two aren't the only ones who disagree about when infoboxes are appropriate, which fields in infoboxes should exist, whether collapsing infoboxes is desirable, whether empty fields should be removed, or a few other related issues swirling about. It has been claimed (I haven't seen the evidence, so I am agnostic) that many fine editors have been drive away because of fights over these issues. However, you claim that if the community reaches a conclusion of best practices, this will drive away good editors. It sounds like failure to do so has already driven away good editors. I find it astounding to contemplate that leaving the answers muddled is somehow better.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 16:11, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
The Special Barnstar | |
Brilliant work on Charles-Valentin Alkan! Expect to see it at FAC soon! ♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 19:00, 12 June 2013 (UTC) |
Oh I'm certain you'll have it at FA long before then. It already looks like an FA candidate as Tim said! I'd be happy to help you promote it. My favourite pianist is Chopin but I also like Liszt and Alkan among others! ♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 21:13, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Greetings. Two recordings of Alkan works performed on the pédalier:
There's Peter Sykes, American organist (http://www.bu.edu/cfa/music/faculty/sykes/) who's played Alkan on the pedal piano in one recital, on October 5, 2010, at Southern Adventist University. Guess it didn't bring the house down. Dubé and Latry play the historical Érard. Prosseda used to play the Borgato and now uses the Pinchi system with various grands. Miklavčič, an organist and harpsichordist from Slovenia which you mentioned, plays the Borgato if I recall correctly. Cheers, Contact Basemetal here 04:22, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
Re [3]. The person in question not an administrator. ;) Best, Voceditenore (talk) 19:43, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Also: I thought of you, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:56, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi Smerus. Look Andy and his friends are very verbose and will try and grind you down with side issues and questions of character and that, but I hope you can see through it. I realise you are fustrated, but your not alone. This has all been gone through many times over years, but I think part of the problem is that today's admin corp come from after, and dont have a full picture. I'm glad to see you taking a stand though. The reflex tactic seems to be intimatition, one article at a time, and when the local editor voices up, the friends swarm in, then "concensus", usually in a classic passive agressive manner. Its not really good enough. Ceoil (talk) 09:55, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi Semerus. Is that really a photo? It looks so much like a picture from a book! I wonder, did you give it some kind of "radical treatment" to produce this result? Regards. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:07, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
I'm going to go ahead and add you to the "parties" of the infobox RFAR. — Ched : ? 04:18, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
Smerus, it seems that for you (same as for me), it's the first ArbCom case. Please read the instructions: everybody is confined to their own space making comments. I (sadly) watched enough of them to know that. I will not change, please move your comment. Privately: how come you find Andy aggressive and I don't? I try to stay factual, Zelot(citation required) that I am ;)--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:56, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
You were recently listed as a party to a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Infoboxes. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Infoboxes/Evidence. Please add your evidence by July 31, 2013, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Infoboxes/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, — ΛΧΣ21 17:51, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Can you tell me why you moved the page Night on Bald Mountain the most common English name to another name without seeking consensus on the talk page? Ultra Venia (talk) 22:03, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
On 20 July 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Alistair Hinton, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Alistair Hinton persuaded composer Kaikhosru Sorabji to relax the ban he had placed on performance of his music, including the four-hour Opus clavicembalisticum? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Alistair Hinton. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
Emailed!Tibetan Prayer ᧾ 20:59, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for your help with this. It's my first new article in a while, so it's great to get a little help. Adam Cuerden (talk) 12:59, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Based on a recent suggestion by Gerda Arendt for a "collapsible" type of mega-template for Mozart in a recent Mozart Template Discussion, I created a "Collapsible Version" Mozart Mega-Template - and a similar "Collapsible Version" Beethoven Mega-Template - if interested, and if possible, your comments, objections and related on the talk pages about the newly created templates would be appreciated - thanks in any regards - and - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 12:25, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi! I noticed your comments in a discussion a while ago on manuscripts from the British Library. I just wrote a piece based on the Alkan string quartet fragent (British Library shelfmark: Hirsch IV.1455, f. 10v) and as I have a typeset version of the fragment I was wondering if you were interested! As I haven't looked at the original myself (a friend who works there typeset the manuscript to begin with) I am not sure if I have the whole thing (I have the first six measures - but is it the whole thing?) but I can send that over if you are interested! Let me know! :) ¬ laonikoss (talk) 16:14, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
Your interpretation of my entry "No infobox" on the Wagner talk as "demanding an infobox" (as done on arb evidence) is absurd. It's about the opposite, do I have to explain that to the arbs, or will you change your wording? I can't study the rest of your entry now, off for real life. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:18, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
Sorry to intrude again: "This is a weaselly evasion of the clear spirit of the ruling." is also unbelievable. The spirit of the ruling is not so "clear" for me. The "ruling" was meant to prevent Andy from changing the FA (itself) on the day of TFA and before (nomination and scheduling). Otherwise the spirit said clearly: "There is nothing at all in the topic ban that says Andy is banned from the talk page of the FA of the day and the talk pages of any articles nominated or scheduled as FA of the day, nor from any pages in the Wikipedia, Wikipedia Talk, User, User Talk or indeed anything other than the main article name space. The ban is unhelpful as it's unclear and it allows pretty rubbish interpretations, but as it stands, Andy has violated no part of the topic ban as it stands and will not be blocked (not that he would be blocked assuming he had violated anything, blocks are preventative, not punitive and we would not take action against infractions in April and May when we are now almost into July). I've asked for clarification on the namespace(s) in which the topic ban should apply at WP:AN. Thanks all.". (AN/I), "Clarified, move along. It appears the matter has in fact been clarified, Andy is not banned from any talk pages by the scope of that topic ban." (AN). Is that not clear enough? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:12, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
Did you know this? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:49, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Am I right that "useless items of decor", as mentioned on Fatinitza, refers to infoboxes? If that's what they are, why do you fight them? Among other things, they ARE decorative, why not keep that? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:23, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
Sincerest congratulations! I take my earlier comment back (that he might not get it before his 200th). :-) Double sharp (talk) 13:30, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
Your recent edits to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Opera could give Wikipedia contributors the impression that you may consider legal or other "off-wiki" action against them, or against Wikipedia itself. Please note that making such threats on Wikipedia is strictly prohibited under Wikipedia's policies on legal threats and civility. Users who make such threats may be blocked. If you have a dispute with the content of any page on Wikipedia, please follow the proper channels for dispute resolution. Please be sure to comment on content, not contributors, and where possible make specific suggestions for changes supported by reliable independent sources and focusing especially on verifiable errors of fact. Thank you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:21, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. --RexxS (talk) 15:26, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
As an editor who has previous worked on this article, I'm seeking your opinion on what you make of the whole chunk of unwikilinked text that's been plonked into the article and everything else removed. does it appear to come from a source stated below, since it doesn't read like something that would be written today. Regardless, it may be copyright material. Any thoughts? Viva-Verdi (talk) 16:33, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
Not sure if you like jazz but I'm heavily into it, love the pianists Bill Evans, Oscar Peterson and Michel Petrucciani in particular. [4] See if you recognize it at 3:52!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 14:10, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Please let me understand what this means, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:44, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi Smerus. I see that you commented on the Talk Page, back in March 2013, that: "Two biographers (earlier than the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia) cite him as decended from converted Moravian Jews, and these are now cited as notes in the article.". I wonder which are/were those? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:57, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
Hello Smerus, I noticed some time ago that you are in favour of removing notes opposing the addition of infoboxes from articles. However, if those notes get removed, then how do you want to enforce a "discuss the infobox on talk first" rule? Unless a policy/guideline is created, the removal of the notes will probably lead to the mass addition of infoboxes to articles, since infoboxes routinely get added to articles without edit summaries (see for instance the recent editing history of the FA Peter Warlock). Best, Toccata quarta (talk) 19:50, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
I have been researching this mythical work, and the results of my efforts are now at peer review, here. Any comment you care to make would be much appreciated. Brianboulton (talk) 19:17, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
I posted a suggestion on the article talk page back in April to the effect that as orchestras, Grove, record companies, concert promoters and all comers refer to the piece as "Ein Heldenleben" it would make sense if WP followed suit. Since then no-one has added any comment, pro or con, and I'd be interested, if you have a few minutes, to see what you think about the suggestion. Tim riley (talk) 13:53, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
The Half Million Award | ||
For your contributions to bring Richard Wagner (estimated annual readership: 813,000) to Featured Article status, I hereby present you the Half Million Award. Congratulations, and thanks for all you do for Wikipedia's readers! -- Khazar2 (talk) 11:53, 3 September 2013 (UTC) |
Hi Smerus, I'm not sure we've ever interacted before, but I was extremely sorry to see that you're leaving Wikipedia--I hope it'll prove to be "for a while" rather than "for good". I owed you the above award, and I still wanted to belatedly post it in recognition of all you've done for Wikipedia's readers. I hope we'll see you back again here someday, but either way, thanks for your lasting contributions, which are literally serving millions of readers. -- Khazar2 (talk) 11:53, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
I have a horrible foreboding that your mention of "departing" at Talk:A Hero's Life means that you are withdrawing from editing WP. I sympathise (and did the same thing myself for several months last year, driven out by the same bullying (as I saw it)) and I shan't be so insensitive as to urge you to ignore the nastiness and carry on. What I will urge is that if you are thinking of "departing" you will come back when you're good and ready. Please! We need you. Very happy indeed to be told I've leapt to the wrong conclusion here. Best wishes. Tim riley (talk) 19:52, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi David, I'm sorry that you are joining the mass of content writer's who have been driven away from Wikipedia by the obnoxious community and it's quasi-police and quasi-judiciary. In view of my latest message to the Arbclowns it will be hypocritical of me to try to make you change your mind. Do feel free to notify me by email if you are giving a talk again in London.--Peter cohen (talk) 11:21, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
Please read Talk, History before applying changes to article. Thanks! ("Literal translation" specification, which you removed, was a subject of debate).--Majorbolz (talk) 19:24, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
An arbitration case regarding behaviour around the use of Infoboxes in several articles has now closed and the final decision is available at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:
- Pigsonthewing (talk · contribs) is indefinitely banned from adding, or discussing the addition or removal of, infoboxes.
- Nikkimaria (talk · contribs) is admonished to behave with the level of professionalism expected of an administrator.
- Gerda Arendt (talk · contribs) is indefinitely restricted from: adding or deleting infoboxes; restoring an infobox that has been deleted; or making more than two comments in discussing the inclusion or exclusion of an infobox on a given article. They may participate in wider policy discussions regarding infoboxes with no restriction, and include infoboxes in new articles which they create.
- Gerda Arendt (talk · contribs) is admonished for treating Wikipedia as if it were a battleground and advised to better conduct themselves.
- Smerus (talk · contribs) is reminded to conduct himself in a civil manner.
- All editors are reminded to maintain decorum and civility when engaged in discussions about infoboxes, and to avoid turning discussions about a single article's infobox into a discussion about infoboxes in general.
- The Arbitration Committee recommends that a well-publicized community discussion be held to address whether to adopt a policy or guideline addressing what factors should weigh in favor of or against including an infobox in a given article.
For the Arbitration Committee, — ΛΧΣ21 00:26, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi Smerus. I'm the arbitrator who proposed the remedies against you in the Infoboxes case. This may come as a surprise to you, but I was gutted to hear on the grapevine that you don't intend to stick around if you're sanctioned. I understand you to be annoyed about a couple of issues, which I will try my best to address in this message. I hope you'll hear me out.
The first issue seems to be that you are being sanctioned at all. I don't know if you'd maintain your conduct on infoboxes has been acceptable, but my colleagues and looked at this matter in great detail then decided (in a 9–1 vote) that it hasn't. However, is being directed to stay away from this difficult and intense dispute really worth sacrificing all you have to offer the encyclopedia? I really hope you'll decide it isn't.
Second, that the finding of fact against you was written up quite late. Even if you consider a couple of weeks (out of a case lasting several months) to confer lateness, this actually happens quite frequently. In arbitration cases, a 'drafting arbitrator' who does the bulk of the work will present an initial batch of findings, but they rarely write up the complete decision. Attention by other arbitrators is always needed so that missing findings (in this case, one about you, because you're a party to the case) are noticed and written up. If this dispute was dealt with by the community, you may have been sanctioned in a matter of hours, with no process of extended scrutiny or attention (that, certainly, would be degrading to an editor). I promise that even if the finding was put up late, we haven't rushed our work, and you aren't being singled out for mistreatment.
I don't know if I've missed anything out. If I have, feel free to point it out, and I'll try to explain my position if you wish me to do so. Otherwise, I wish you the very best, whether you remain a Wikipedia contributor or move on to other hobbies. Yours, AGK [•] 23:26, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
Sort of saved by the ArbCom tie vote - but the actual "finding of fact" still shows a remarkable series of "unfortunate events" for that body, for which solutions well ought be found. Cheers. Collect (talk) 22:24, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Welcome back. I don't know how active you intend to be for the moment, but Tippett is at FAC, here, awaiting any comments, should you feel so inclined. Brianboulton (talk) 19:31, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
Delighted and relieved to see you in diesen heil'gen Hallen! Please drop in again and again and again! We need you, sir! Tim riley (talk) 17:31, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
..is up for deletion. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 03:18, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for your message, and also the note on the WP:3RR rule. I had not previously witnessed such apparent opposition to an edit, so I was not aware of it. We all learn from our experiences. I have added a reply to your comment on the Wagner talk page, but will now broadly support your rationale. Thank you again User:Ianatheling —Preceding undated comment added 15:26, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Welcome back, I've just added a new quartet article on a work by a Jewish composer you might be interested in. Only thing is that some sources say this is the only quartet he wrote and I've seen another source that gives the number as four. Any help clarifying this would be greatly appreciated as would any information on the details of the first performance.Graham1973 (talk) 17:49, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
I just created Slaka (fiction), just in case the AfD goes the wrong direction. Not saying it's an ideal solution, but threw it in the mix to see if others are going to act in good faith or just dig in. Probably should have run this past you, but decided to just BB and do it. No worries either way. Montanabw(talk) 20:37, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
This is a note to let the main editors of Charles-Valentin Alkan know that the article will be appearing as today's featured article on November 30, 2013. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at all, please ask Bencherlite (talk · contribs). You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/November 30, 2013. If it needs tweaking, or if it needs rewording to match improvements to the article between now and its main page appearance, please edit it, following the instructions at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/instructions. The blurb as it stands now is below:
Charles-Valentin Alkan (1813–88) was a French composer and pianist. Alongside his friends and colleagues Frédéric Chopin and Franz Liszt, he was among the leading virtuoso pianists in Paris. His career was marked by his occasional long withdrawals for personal reasons from public performance, and from 1848 he began to adopt a reclusive life style, while continuing with his compositions, virtually all of which are for the keyboard. During this period he published his collections of large-scale studies in all the major keys (Op. 35) and all the minor keys (Op. 39). The latter includes his Symphony for Piano Solo and Concerto for Piano Solo, considered among his masterpieces, of great musical and technical complexity. Alkan's attachment to his Jewish origins is displayed both in his life and his work. He was the first composer to incorporate Jewish melodies in art music. Fluent in Hebrew and Greek, he devoted much time to a complete new translation of the Bible into French. After his death (which according to a persistent myth was caused by a falling bookcase), his music was neglected, but since the late 1960s many pianists have recorded it and brought it back into the repertoire. (Full article...)
UcuchaBot (talk) 23:04, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
A great achievement! A radio station here broadcasts one of his pieces every Saturday throughout 2013, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:00, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
...which is more than the BBC has done! Thanks Gerda.--Smerus (talk) 22:04, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi. I wanted to let you know that I've requested a deletion review of the outcome from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vedontakal Vrop. The review request has been posted at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2013 December 2. Regards. -- Whpq (talk) 11:28, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi Smerus, I visited your user page to see if you had published your book (have you? -- EDIT: a quick Google search shows you have; congratulations!), and was surprised to see that you'd deleted the user page and replaced it with a short section. I miss the old user page! I see by edit histories and this Talk page that you left for a period, and then came back. Very glad you came back! Please focus on the good you are doing here, and don't let the bullies get you down. Please seek support when you need it; kind people need to support each other to keep Wikipedia pleasant and top-quality. Hope you are doing well, and that your book is faring well also. Cheers, Softlavender (talk) 13:40, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
As a subscriber to one of The Wikipedia Library's programs, we'd like to hear your thoughts about future donations and project activities in this brief survey. Thanks and cheers, Ocaasi t | c 14:52, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi Smerus, I agree with you that the Bradbury image can be used on the imaginary opera (and books, for that matter) page as fair use, but I'm not going to go in there with both barrels blazing about it solo. You want to take it on, or let it go? I'm in if you are, but my drama quota is limited... Montanabw(talk) 19:52, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
thanks for all the great pics, keep it up!--Львівське (говорити) 08:11, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
You deleted following recordings link:
Public domain music of Frederic Chopin. Funded by Kickstarter project of Musopen, which raised $92,452 of $75,000 goal during 45 days(Sep 5, 2013 - Oct 20, 2013).
I really don't known what to say about Your strange(very) vision of Wikipedia. You probably are one of two persons 1) Completely deletionist 2) An artist who earn money on his works. In both cases You should stop deleting the content. What is a reason to insert a link in Wikipedia - to illustrate subject, and in future to transfer if possible this to commons. Did You illustrated every work of Chopin? No! Do are there free examples on Wikipedia? No! According to this link anyone can hear freely his works, and because of license somebody can transfer it to Wikipedia. You want to discuss about "quality" - ok, provide better commons public domain music and illustrate articles(most Chopin have separate page on Wikipedia).
You don't want links? Just move the music to Wikipedia Commons(it have free license) and add as Commons link. Imagine that for example some guy/girl in school have a homework on Chopin - what would he/she do? Probably if it is A-grade would check Internet, write own version of story/presentation basing on many articles, and if he isn't a deaf person he would like to attach music. Do he/she would go to Royalty Free paid library or play the sheet on the piano? No if he/she don't have money and piano knowledge would want to listen a music. This is what an external link(if something is not on the commons) is for - to illustrate and fastly redirect to direct illustration of subject...
Sorry but what would be next - You will delete paintings, because You paint in that style? Yeah Chopin scores are nice, but if You have an article about music - for example main anthem of country - You HAVE music, and nobody discuss the need of it, despite most are Public Domain done only by govt. orchestra of ONE country.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.74.109.107 (talk) 20:04, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
Found a video of someone performing this work Ignaz Moscheles: Handel-Variationen, Op.29 and will be posting a stub article on this as soon as I've got the score sorted out. If you are interested in adding to it at some point please let me know.Graham1973 (talk) 16:47, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
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Ruhrfisch ><>°° 15:49, 25 December 2013 (UTC) |
Merry Christmas! I gather you are working on Chopin after all. I will begin working on it soon, although don't want to cause edit conflicts! We will get him up to FA eventually!♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:16, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
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Best wishes for joy and happiness. Keep up the good work on Wikipedia! Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 02:06, 29 December 2013 (UTC) |
Dear Smerus, I feel sure you must be familiar with the comments of William Hazlitt on Braham's style of delivery, which I have just read for the first time... here. As a description of his delivery it seems almost worth including in the article - especially the bit about 'the transition from con furio style to affetuoso in their greatest extremes... something of a trick' etc. However you have already put in several descriptions, and rather than distorting your article by adding it myself, and as you are the man for John Braham, I just thought I'd suggest it to you. Every good wish for the season and New Year. yours Eebahgum (talk) 15:51, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
I am not sure if I'll review it (I am not an expert on music), but at least in my role as a Polish-history-topics reviewer, I'll offer some comments. I started at Talk:Frédéric_Chopin#Few_pe-GA_comments. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:09, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Alkan was covered by an long article in the FAZ on 27 December, probably nothing in it you don't know, but good to know: http://www.seiten.faz-archiv.de/faz/20131227/fd2201312274099143.html
Happy musical year, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:36, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
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Nice; thank you for stubbing all those Chopin-related bios. This one ~30 words short of start class and thus being eligible for T:TDYK. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 20:42, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Sigh, congratulations on re-adding unreferenced material to the article, while violating our MOS in the process! GiantSnowman 21:40, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
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For your work on Chopin. I hope it becomes a GA. And all other articles you have helped you promote to high-quality level. By the way, I love your chin-stroking picture. Երևանցի talk 03:32, 20 February 2014 (UTC) |
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Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:04, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
If you had time and disposition, any thoughts you might have at the peer review of Verdi's masterpiece would be most gratefully received. Tim riley (talk) 14:29, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
I have taken the liberty of deleting the bot messages purporting to come from me, and replacing them with my own words, viz (i) so good to see you in diesen heil'gen Hallen again, and (ii) the Chopin is a fine article, which I enjoyed greatly and learnt a lot from. Bravo! – Tim riley (talk) 13:58, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
On 1 March 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Frédéric Chopin, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Frédéric Chopin (pictured) left his homeland of Poland in 1831 and never returned? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Frédéric Chopin. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:01, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
You reverted two edits I made on the Frédéric Chopin article, citing overlinking. However:
What are your thoughts about this? Buxtehude (talk) 02:31, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
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Your name came up on a Wikipediocracy thread about solid content writers who don't get the credit they deserve and I just wanted to drop by and do a little of that. Thanks for your work on behalf of The Project! Carrite (talk) 15:23, 31 March 2014 (UTC) |
I thought of you when I wrote DYK ... that baritone Eike Wilm Schulte, who performed more than 100 roles since 1966, stepped in at the Bayreuth Festival as Gunther in Götterdämmerung? (6 April) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:57, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
On 4 May 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hugh Clegg (industrial relations), which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that after the British National Board for Prices and Incomes was closed, member Hugh Clegg wrote a book entitled How to Run an Incomes Policy, and Why We Made Such a Mess of the Last One? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hugh Clegg (industrial relations). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:33, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
On 26 April 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hans Jürgen von der Wense, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that in 1919 Hans Jürgen von der Wense composed a piece for piano, clarinet, and suspended metal colander? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hans Jürgen von der Wense. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
The DYK project (nominate) 15:39, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
centenary
Thank you for quality articles, based on scientific background and a life in Europe, with a passion for music shown in playing instruments and organising a music festival, crowned by Richard Wagner to celebrate 200 years, a life of drama, for progress, without compromise, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:12, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
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— Crisco 1492 (talk) 21:02, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for removing that piece of nonsense from the Paul Celan article. I remember deleting that "factoid" when I dabbled with the Celan page myself way back in 2007. Someone seems obsessed with re-adding it. As I wrote on the talk page: "'Celan' is simply a reversal of the two syllables in the Romanian spelling ('Ancel') of his German name ('Antschel'). Both versions sound something like 'An-chel' in English. He removed the T, the S and the H because they aren't needed in Romanian." Cheers. --Folantin (talk) 09:24, 17 July 2014 (UTC)