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The GA barnstar | ||
For your work on Rosa Diaz article. Nine Nine, yeah!. FrB.TG (talk) 11:40, 31 December 2022 (UTC) |
On 1 January 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Claudia Meier Volk, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Minnesota legislator Claudia Meier cosponsored a bill freeing women from having to take their husbands' last names, and then took her husband's last name? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Claudia Meier Volk. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Claudia Meier Volk), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
-- RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
Happy New Year and Happy New WikiCup! The 2023 competition has just begun and all article creators, expanders, improvers and reviewers are welcome to take part. Even if you are a novice editor you should be able to advance to at least the second round, improving your editing skills as you go. If you have already signed up, your submissions page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and the judges will set up your submissions page ready for you to take part. Any questions on the scoring, rules or anything else should be directed to one of the judges, or posted to the WikiCup talk page. Signups will close at the end of January, and the first round will end on 26 February; the 64 highest scorers at that time will move on to round 2. The judges for the WikiCup this year are: Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email) and Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email). Good luck! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:16, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
Happy New Year! | ||
Hi Theleekycaldron, Looking backwards, looking forwards, best wishes for the New Year. Happy wikifying! Thanks for all you do, especially DYK. It's people like you who keep this place wonderful. (Regardless of UTC, it is still January 1 where I'm posting!) Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 02:53, 2 January 2023 (UTC) |
@SL93, RoySmith, and Bruxton: I think we know that the community will not want to institute any kind of reform to make it easier for promoters unless the scope of the problem begins to affect the nominators. There's any number of things they could do – nomination expiry, 2 promotions : 1 QPQ credit (1 week expiry), adding a promotion to the QPQ requirement, buffer prep sets, backlog drives, you name it – but as long as their nominations are being processed, they assume it must not really be that much of a problem.
But it is a problem. It's a problem that our heaviest hitters are all gone or burning out. It's a problem that there's a limit to how much work we can do, even when we want to. It's a problem that very few want to try, and when they do, fewer want to stay. It's a problem that the prep sets are so fragile as to lock promoters into more work than they reasonably want to handle.
"But it's a volunteer project, you don't have to do any work!" What if we said that if – by February 10 (enough time to discuss and RfC) – the community doesn't implement reforms to make prep building easier or add more prep builders, we would withhold our labour from the prep sets? Let the process grind to a halt and show how unhealthy it is that the process depends so heavily on so few people. (It would be lovely if the promoting admins also refused to promote to queue in solidarity, with the exception of the one admin who'll have to start rerunning old sets, but we're not there yet.) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 23:33, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
my notifications bell is showing i have a notification, but when i click on it there is no new notifications. please ping me when you respond Justyouraveragelechuga talk 17:40, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
On 4 January 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Fuccboi (novel), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Fuccbois' crew won awards, while Fuccboi's prose received both praise and criticism? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fuccbois. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Fuccboi (novel)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
BorgQueen (talk) 00:03, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
On 4 January 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Fuccbois, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that Fuccbois' crew won awards, while Fuccboi's prose received both praise and criticism? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fuccbois. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Fuccbois), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
BorgQueen (talk) 00:02, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
Hook update | ||
Your hook reached 17,154 views (714.7 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of January 2023 – nice work! |
GalliumBot (talk • contribs) (he/it) 03:28, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
On 5 January 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Measure VY, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Culver City's Measure VY would have allowed 16-year-olds to vote, but it fell short by 16 votes out of over 16,000? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Measure VY. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Measure VY), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
-- RoySmith (talk) 12:03, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
Please see my comment on changing the rules and scoring in the WikiCup here. I did wonder whether somebody who is technically competent would be able to take over the running of the scoring bot. The last time I contacted Jarry1250, he commented that it was remarkable that the programme he wrote so long ago still worked! Would you be interested? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 14:48, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
Hello Theleekycauldron/Archive/2023,
The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.
Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!
Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)
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Redirects: Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, see this guide, this checklist, and spend some time at WP:RFD.
Discussions with the WMF The PageTriage open letter signed by 444 users is bearing fruit. The Growth Team has assigned some software engineers to work on PageTriage, the software that powers the NewPagesFeed and the Page Curation toolbar. WMF has submitted dozens of patches in the last few weeks to modernize PageTriage's code, which will make it easier to write patches in the future. This work is helpful but is not very visible to the end user. For patches visible to the end user, volunteers such as Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have been writing patches for bug reports and feature requests. The Growth Team also had a video conference with the NPP coordinators to discuss revamping the landing pages that new users see.
theleekycauldron, I found it odd that your objections were never addressed by the subsequent reviewer or the promoter; the hook was initially promoted to Prep 4 and subsequently moved to Prep 1, which is the next one in line to be promoted to queue.
If you do feel the sourcing is an issue, you can always post to the GA review, though if you wish to do so, I'd do so soon: it looks like it's wrapping up. The reviewer may disagree with you, but you'd get another pair of eyes on the issue. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:04, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
Theleekycauldron,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
Abishe (talk) 18:05, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
Send New Year cheer by adding ((subst:Happy New Year fireworks)) to user talk pages.
Abishe (talk) 18:05, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
I was trying to get a hook ready for IWD, and to that end I started this article (still in draft). But for the life of me I do not see a hook yet. Could you look for me and see one jumps out at you? Bruxton (talk) 00:05, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
Here's something I found from those days: https://www.jstor.org/stable/3424590 BusterD (talk) 18:55, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
Hi. I work for Stan Polovets and the Genesis Prize. I recently put up an edit request to tweak the nationality descriptive in the lead of the article. Would greatly appreciate your help with this. Thank you AKarlin for GenesisPrize (talk) 14:49, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
When I click on Load/prep queue, the Load/prep queue button greys out and nothing happens. SL93 (talk) 04:42, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
Category:Characters played by Steve Carell has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. DonIago (talk) 15:12, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
I got side-tracked on a bunch of random things, but finally got back to this. If you go to (for example) https://dyk-tools.toolforge.org/display?template_name=Template%3ADid+you+know+nominations%2F2022+New+Mexico+Bowl, there's a link for the API version of that page. It gives you back a JSON blob with all the data about the nomination neatly parsed. It's way too slow for production use, however. I need to figure out what's going on there. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:47, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
def is_approved(self) -> bool:
for image in self.page.imagelinks()[::-1]: #iterate through imagelinks backwards, since we only care about the final tick
if image.title() in APPROVALS:
return True
elif image.title() in DISAPPROVALS:
return False
return False #unapproved by default
I doubt that's the problem. All that really matters is API calls, and as far as I can tell, all of that's done locally. In any case, I've added some caching. It needed to happen eventually anyway, so this seems like a good time. I thought pywikibot gave you page caching for free, but apparently not, or maybe I just don't have it configure right. In any case this should be a lot faster, once the cache gets warmed up. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:32, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
Like I said on the DYK talk page, I'm not talking about articles being based primarily on those sources. I'm talking about the ban on all uses of them on BLPs. I don't understand the confusion. SL93 (talk) 03:26, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
@SL93: to explain your question about BLPSPS and BLPREMOVE, BLPREMOVE is about what needs to be removed immediately. In most cases where you see articles with poor sourcing of any kind, you're not gonna put your finger on the trigger right away – maybe the sourcing's out there somewhere. But a BLP with a contentious statement has a lot of impact in the here-and-now, and it's more important that we get it right or don't have it at all. BLPREMOVE isn't about how the article should ideally look, it's about damage control. The other guidelines on the page spell out more cautious handling for adding content, which is what BLPSPS is about. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 05:36, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
The DYK Barnstar | ||
For all your hard work cleaning up WP:DYKSG -- RoySmith (talk) 21:13, 16 January 2023 (UTC) |
I've been asked to help others shepherd a new user splash screen with the Wikimedia Foundation folks. Kudpung is taking a breather and has asked us not to copy his work to date. I ask you for help. You have youth and inexperience going for you. You are 15 years newer than me... I'm old and set in my ways, a big disadvantage. You may be uniquely qualified to help us find (some genuinely new, active, and talented) users with fresh eyes. And it's always more fun if you're on the trip. Please consider putting aside a few minutes a week for this. There's a meeting this Thursday afternoon at 0100 UTC (technically Friday) if you'd like to sit in or later watch the recording. BusterD (talk) 20:15, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
Just letting you know, I think both George Charles Hoste and William Nicholas (officer) should pass the 1500 character limit easily now. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 09:02, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
Hi @Theleekycauldron, and I just wanted to say that I love the name "GalliumBot"! Gallium is my favorite element. When I saw that there was a bot called "GalliumBot", I automatically knew that this would be my favorite bot. (Sorry, ClueBot NG!) Helloheart 03:36, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
I've used your set-building tool a few times now, and I wanted to say thank you for creating it! It makes the tedious parts of promoting so much easier. Also, at the risk of being greedy; I would find it extremely helpful if it could also reverse the steps of promotion, that is, pull a hook. The thought of needing to do reopening, replacing, and relisting makes it substantially less likely that I'll deal with the queue when I have only a little time to spare. It's in no way a priority, of course; just letting you know it would be appreciated. Vanamonde (Talk) 16:47, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
I promoted Template:Did you know nominations/Concerto Barocco using the pshaw tool and it promoted the hook, but it didn't close the nomination for some reason. SL93 (talk) 20:47, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
Per your question, yes. I generally reference every assertion while I'm actively working because that way I can move stuff around without worrying that I've moved it without its reference or inserted information between an assertion and its source. I even think it's a positive to leave an article that still needs work that way, as it helps the next person along. If someone decides, for instance, to split the final sentence off of a paragraph and expand a new paragraph from it, unless all the sources at the end of that sentence are easily available, how do they know which sources to leave at the old paragraph and which to bring to the new one? So I just drop my sources as I go. Valereee (talk) 17:50, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
Hi @Theleekycauldron, I'm trying to improve DYK on Urdu Wikipedia and I need some help. I'm good at both languages. I am trying to setup and update ur:ویکیپیڈیا:کیا آپ جانتے ہیں؟ first before planning to move forward. What pages should I get ready on Urdu Wikipedia to make the nominations happen on talk page. Best, ─ The Aafī (talk) 08:27, 23 January 2023 (UTC)