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Hi @Timothytyy. The point I'm making in the Articles for deletion/Challaghatta metro station is that you seem (well, that's how it's coming over to me) to be holding this metro station and Benniganahalli to a higher level of sourcing required to pass the GNG than with the Yuyuan station (Shenzhen Metro) article you helped improve. I'm tempted to put that article up for AfD. You dismiss most of the Challaghatta sources as being about the line, not the station. The first source in Yuyuan is about the line with a single sentence on the station. The second and third sources have duplicate wording in translation, again mostly covering the line but with three sentences on the station. I don't think you should have removed the notability template because no attempt has been made to address the concerns I have with notability of that article. I don't begrudge your putting up the AfDs as both articles have been expanded to benefit the encyclopedia. What I'm having trouble with is apparent inconsistency i.e. why you see Yuyuan as notable and not the expanded Bangalore metro station articles. Rupples (talk) 02:08, 5 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The purpose of an AfD is to try to seek improvement if it can be made. I apreciate your efforts in expanding the article. You added two or three sources that provides some degree of individual coverage.The problem is you try to link to other articles about the notability without providing any guidelines. Anyway, after the improvements, I would not oppose closing this as NC just like the other one. Please try to expand other Indian metro articles if you can because a lot of them lack individual content and coverage. Thank you. Timothytyy (talk) 08:10, 5 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ok. Thanks. Rupples (talk) 14:11, 5 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Ca was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

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 The comment the reviewer left was:

I am not really seeing in-depth coverage of the station from the listed sources. If you can't find any sources that comply with WP:42, I recommend merging information in this draft to Line 12 (Shenzhen Metro) instead. Good luck!

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Ca ^{talk to me!} 09:39, 8 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello, Timothytyy! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Ca talk to me! 09:39, 8 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 21 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Timothytyy,, could you help me to check this two user: Alfrzi and 222.154.93.245. They are consistently making some disruptive editing.. all i can do is revert their edits, and give some warning. I hope you can help for the next step.. Thanks. Stvbastian (talk) 00:13, 26 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Will keep an eye on them, thanks for the alert!

P.S. Next time you can use friendlier words than "stupidity" to the new users. Keep up your anti-disruption work! Timothytyy (talk) 04:19, 26 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello Timothytyy -- Just a note to say that prods can be objected to on any ground or none, there is no concept of a "valid reason" to object. Online sources on the open web are not necessary and simple searches in Google for sources are almost never enough to show that notability is absent, especially where the subject is not English. Espresso Addict (talk) 19:02, 26 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

If a search in Chinese doesn't turn up anything, then? Also, thanks for your reminder, just finished reading WP:DEPROD. Next time, I hope you can really look into the coverage before hastily deprodding everything without responding to the issues raised. Thank you very much. Timothytyy (talk) 00:58, 27 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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I question your AFC acceptance of this article. The references look overwhelmingly non-WP:IS. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:39, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I think you failed to notice the 2 SCMP sources. First, they are absolutely not affiliated with the subject. Secondly, SCMP is a reputable publisher. Thirdly, source 12 looks ok too. Did you mean that there are a lot of non-RS in the article or are you questioning its notability? Is it needed to clean up the sources? Thanks!Timothytyy (talk) 12:45, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yes, I'm questioning notability; without notability, the draft should not be accepted. The first SCMP ref is an interview, which by definition is not WP:IS. The second one is a passing mention of a quote, so also not IS and not SIGCOV. Neither can be used to establish notability. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:53, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Is there something wrong with source 9? It seems to have enough coverage. Timothytyy (talk) 13:06, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Another interview? #9 and #22 are the same ref, and listed in the interviews section. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:14, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please inspect the source. I think it counts as IS. Timothytyy (talk) 13:25, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Is it an interview? My "free reads" are used up. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:28, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I don't think so. Also the title of the section is "Interviews and articles". But I agree that most sources are just non-IS. Will be more careful in reviewing next time!

P.S. The subject seems notable, I'll add some sources later. Timothytyy (talk) 13:33, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Hi, Timothytyy article:Jishnu Raghavan was tagged for Speedy deletion so please help me to rectify that. So only I had created with Page:Jishnu (Malayalam actor) but why do you again moved to page:Jishnu Raghavan I think that's why the another user tagged for G5. So please help me. This article should not get deleted🙏 Jeevan shree (talk) 05:45, 11 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I helped you decline G5, but I cannot help you if you are really a sock. Timothytyy (talk) 06:42, 11 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No, I'm not a sock Jeevan shree (talk) 06:47, 11 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Then I suggest you defend yourself with proofs at the sockpuppet investigation, because you already look suspicious to other editors, and someone already reported you. Good luck. Timothytyy (talk) 06:49, 11 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

• Hey, Timothytyy. They are most definitely a SOCK. I pinged you here just FYI.--CNMall41 (talk) 09:26, 11 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  I am fully aware of the discussion. I still believe G5 is inapplicable to this article, and even if it is, there's no need tagging it. It doesn't create great harm after all. Timothytyy (talk) 10:39, 11 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:11, 20 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, I saw your comment on Akilimali Ndag talk page. I would like to inform you this person has the same practices today on fr.wikipedia.org and are temporary blocked on FR:WP by an admin (Unjustified deletion of sourced passages). Have a good day.

Unptitpeudtout (talk) 12:03, 23 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for informing, do you have any suggestions on how to deal with his disruption? Thanks! Timothytyy (talk) 13:28, 23 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'm sorry, but I don't really have any suggestions... On FR:WP the user immediately joined in a war of editing and deleting sourced passages (pro-Chinese POV-Pushing), without using the articles' discussion pages. In this context, I think it's difficult to find an alternative to temporary blocking. Unptitpeudtout (talk) 13:53, 23 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Thanks:) Happy editing! Timothytyy (talk) 04:26, 29 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Happy New Year!

Timothytyy,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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Abishe (talk) 14:11, 1 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you so much! Happy new year for you too! Timothytyy (talk) 22:48, 1 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Also to you a Happy New Year! Enjoy everything, life, and also Wikipedia! --Florentyna (talk) 20:51, 2 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks, you too! Timothytyy (talk) 04:53, 3 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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