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The result was delete. Still does not meet notability guidelines even after attempts to improve article. No consensus on a redirect to replace the article. —Darkwind (talk) 02:34, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Completely unsourced biography. Subject appears to fail WP:BIO; no evidence of significant coverage in independent, reliable sources. MastCell ^Talk 18:46, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep – A better Google search is "Dr. Bernard Jensen" which produces quite a few hits, as shown here [1]. In addition, looks like a Dr. Jensen was a prolific author, as shown here [2]. I believe this is enough material to establish notability. I’ll start citing the article. Thanks ShoesssS ^Talk 20:56, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm not sure how many of those Google hits are useful independent, reliable sources, but I'll look for your updates to the article. MastCell ^Talk 21:19, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment - Fair enough. Thanks - ShoesssS ^Talk 23:21, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:14, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep im having trouble finding references, but he is one of the biggest names in the holistic health/alternative medicine movement in its early years. I added what i could.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 02:02, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete for lack of any significant coverage in independent reliable sources. Two people (above) have tried to source the article and did their best, but it remains basically unsourced. At Google Books, I found his own books plus one reference to him in somebody else's book. Online I found him referred to as the founder or popularizer of iridology.[3] I also found a few non-reliable sources gushing about him, some with unverified red-flag claims such as that he was knighted, some stating things that are plainly false like the claim that he was a medical doctor. Oh, and there's the company he founded now run by his son. Maybe the information could be merged/redirected to Iridology, but there is nowhere near enough verifiable, sourced information for a biography. --MelanieN (talk) 03:24, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. An open-and-shut case of no WP:RS whatsoever to fulfill WP:AUTHOR, WP:BK, or WP:GNG. Qworty (talk) 06:09, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment i suppose i should have just added a comment instead of argue for keep. if i say keep, i need to show adequate refs (what i found was marginal). i sort of hoped someone else was better than me at finding sources. I think a Redirect to Avery Publishing (which i created, think its a more notable enough entity) as his name is a valid search term. I still think there are print references out there, but we could always recreate if someone can show that.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 01:50, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Forgive me, but I think a redirect to a publishing house would be a little weird. If there is to be a redirect IMO it should be to Iridology, the field in which he made his name (to the extent that he has one). --MelanieN (talk) 02:05, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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