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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 23:54, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

EBikeGo

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Subject fails the notability guideline for companies and the products section reads like promotional material. All of the coverage of this company seems to consist of trivial announcements (for example, product releases, funding, hiring, and acquisitions) in trade publications. voorts (talk/contributions) 23:30, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

sbuject is notable accourding to WP:PSTS, other article are using same product section check Ather Energy, there might be some trivial articles but not all, there are my good sources attached to the article. Starcruexz (talk) 09:25, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Starcruexz: First, notability is not determined by PSTS. It is determined by WP:NCORP, the Wikipedia guideline for notability for corporations. Second, it would be helpful if you could provide three sources that you believe prove that this corporation is notable. Each of those sources should be (1) secondary, (2) independent of the company, and (3) reliable, and each source should (4) provide significant coverage of the corporation. voorts (talk/contributions) 17:23, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Voorts pls check [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] Starcruexz (talk) 10:37, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
some more [10][11] Starcruexz (talk) 10:55, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If any of these were cited in the article at the time of my nomination, I don't think they establish notability. For other sources, it would be helpful if you could summarize what each source says. You might try ((ORGCRIT assess table)). voorts (talk/contributions) 14:27, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep Nominators concerns appear equally about the (bad) article quality, the sources exceed routine coverage. IgelRM (talk) 18:45, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My concerns are about notability. I noted the promotional tone because I think that is often relevant in deletion discussions. For example, some users might !vote to speedy delete an article for being unambiguous advertising or promotion. voorts (talk/contributions) 20:10, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Created with templates ((ORGCRIT assess table)) and ((ORGCRIT assess))
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor.
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Secondary? Overall value toward ORGCRIT
No Seems to be based on press release/interview of company partnering with the article subject. Yes No Routine announcement of business partnership. Yes
No Interview published in a trade publication. Yes No Routine announcement of brand partnership. Yes
No Product announcement based on press release. Yes No Routine product announcement. Yes
No Product announcement that appears to be based on a press release with no independent reporting or context. Yes No Routine product announcement. Yes
No Product announcement based on press release and quotes from company officials. Yes No Routine company acquisition announcement. Yes
No The wrong source appears to be linked; this is a story about something completely unrelated. If the intent was to link to this story about a routine acquisition, I already noted in my nom that that source does not provide significant coverage. Yes
No Announcement of setting up manufacturing plant based on press release and quotes from company officials. Yes No Routine announcement. Yes
Appears to be based on press release. No Routine funding announcement. Yes
No Interview with company founder and COO. Yes Yes Overview of what the company's plans are. Yes
No Announcement of business partnership based on press release. Yes No Routine business partnership. Yes
No Announcement of manufacturing plant based on company press release. Yes No Routine announcement. Yes

To meet the notability guideline for corporations, there must be multiple sources, each of which must have significant coverage in independent and secondary reliable sources. Coverage is not significant if it is based on routine announcements and coverage is not independent if it is based on reporting that substantially repeats press releases (churnalism). None of the sources above meet those guidelines and I have not found any other sources that establish this company's notability. voorts (talk/contributions) 20:01, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note that the article has a whopping 56 sources cited, and the above is just short of 20% of those sources (assuming that there are no repeat citations in the article). It is unlikely that the remaining sources cited in the article establish notability; just skimming through the list of references and looking at their titles and publications show that they appear to be largely routine announcements about some of the same events provided in the above sources). In any event, I note that the burden in a deletion discussion is on those arguing to keep an article. voorts (talk/contributions) 20:04, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Seraphimblade Talk to me 04:46, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Starcruexz:, you are the second editor to bring up Ola Electric so hopefully you saw the previous response. Many of the links provided by those voting are what you will need to review. For instance, WP:NCOPR is the main guideline. You can review WP:ORGCRIT which will help you determine the proper sources to use and also WP:CORPDEPTH to understand the depth of coverage needed to show notability. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:00, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Starcruexz: I have an explanation of what I think significant coverage means in a user essay that I've written. voorts (talk/contributions) 22:09, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Voorts Thanks let m check Starcruexz (talk) 09:50, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Voorts i found some sources with mentions of EBikeGo on scholor, pls check [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] Starcruexz (talk) 11:33, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Starcruexz: I am not your research assistant. It is your responsibility to explain why you think these sources are independent, reliable, and provide significant coverage. voorts (talk/contributions) 14:21, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
12 and 13 are the same source, authored by an organization that "collaborates with industry" and EBikeGo is only mentioned once on page 8. 14 only mentions EBikeGo once on page 13. 15 is by the same people as sources 12 and 13, and EBikeGo is again only briefly mentioned once on page 100. 16 mentions EBikeGo twice on pages 65 and 67.
None of these contain significant coverage, which requires detailed discussion of the company.
In the future, please explain why the sources you are providing contain significant coverage. Posting links and asking others to do the work for you is not how AfD discussions should go. voorts (talk/contributions) 22:53, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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