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The result was Delete. Quarl (talk) 2007-03-14 11:32Z

One-piece garment[edit]

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Article is a category improperly implemented as an article Anonymous55 00:14, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This came out of a discussion on Category_talk:One-piece_suits. The One-piece garment article is essentially a list of links to other articles with very little other content, and has existed for over four years. The One-piece suits category was created three days ago. They're not identical in scope; the article includes non-bifurcated garments like dresses, whereas the new category does not. My idea is to replace the article with a category called One-piece garments, and make One-piece suits a sub-category underneath it, but I don't know if that's the best solution as the two categories may be too similar to justify keeping them both. Looking for input on that. Anonymous55 00:36, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Friday (talk) 15:00, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Lindsay Redpath[edit]

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Insufficient notability, fails WP:PROF and possible vanity. DWaterson 00:18, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was KEEP, due to notability, but the article does need a bit of a cleanup job. Mo0[talk] 00:33, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Barry Aspinell[edit]

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Former local councillors are unlikely to be notable, only 525 Ghits, claims he "gained national attention" are probably somewhat exaggerated and relate to some minor local dispute of no lasting notability. A couple of third-party news reports cited, but I cannot see sufficient overall notability here to warrant an article. DWaterson 00:28, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Result was withdrawn by nominator. I appreciate the input. -- Dhartung | Talk 20:21, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mila Rechcigl[edit]

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Unclear notability per WP:PROF, additionally apparent WP:AUTO. Dhartung | Talk 00:37, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Merge to Skapunk. Quarl (talk) 2007-03-14 11:33Z

Skacore[edit]

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Delete -An article about this topic was already deleted using the normal Wikipedia procedures. There are no references, and there is not enough information to adequately differentiate it from the ska punk article. A recent deletion proposal was deleted on its fifth day in a bad-faith edit by an anonymous IP user without any justification. Spylab 00:42, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Quarl (talk) 2007-03-14 11:34Z

Black Ratchet[edit]

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See talk page, there seems to have been some dispute over notability here. Personally, I can't see anything in this article that establishes notability - being a moderator on a forum and running a payphone list website fails WP:BIO DWaterson 00:45, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was wrong spot. I'll list the articles in the category for deletion as a mass nom at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Investiture of the Gods (chapter 1) as I agree the stuff should be deleted and that's probably what the nominator meant anyway. Please comment over there. MER-C 06:51, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Chapters of Fengshen Yanyi[edit]

There is no need for an article for the summary of each chapter of a book.)) SyBerWoLff 00:56, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge and redirect the verifiable information from E-wrestling to Fantasy wrestling. Seraphimblade Talk to me 09:03, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

E-wrestling[edit]

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Non-notable hobby. No reliable sources, full of original resarch, fails WP:A. One Night In Hackney303 01:16, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related page for the same reason:

Fantasy wrestling (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

One Night In Hackney303 01:21, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment I just looked through all 21 pages of results, and didn't see a single source that an article could be written from. Perhaps you could provide some rather than just providing irrelevant search engine results? One Night In Hackney303 00:00, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The article was created over two years ago and it's been tagged as unreferenced since June last year, how long do you suggest we wait until a source is found? If sources can be found then the article can be re-created using those. I refer you to WP:A, which states - The burden of evidence lies with the editor wishing to add or retain the material. If an article topic has no reliable sources, Wikipedia should not have an article on it. One Night In Hackney303 05:02, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I disagree. Just because something isn't attributed doesn't mean it's not attributable. However, looking through this article again, I noticed that a lot of it is most likely OR and therefore unsourceable...and pretty poorly written, too. What really tipped the scales for me is this talk page comment. Therefore, I'm switching to Delete for E-Wrestling until such time as someone can write an unbiased, sourced article on it, or just put any useful info (none I can see) into Fantasy wrestling, for which I still say Keep.--UsaSatsui 16:05, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, I agree no reliable sources is a problem but the fact that it has millions of hits on google shows it is a notable and popular internet roleplaying game. Englishrose 21:59, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Speedy delete a7, doesn't assert notability, fails WP:CORP and WP:COI. NawlinWiki 13:29, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

NRD Studios[edit]

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Not notable. Also, full of original research -- it seems to be written by the company's principals. Novalis 01:20, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Result: speedy delete under A7, notability. KillerChihuahua?!? 13:34, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kenneth Kraus[edit]

The result of the debate was result :Kenneth Kraus (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD) This actor does not seem to be particularly notable. The article says he was “offered contracts with some of the well known agencies” but no evidence is provided that he ever took or fulfilled any of those contracts. The article says that he “vanish[ed] from the acting industry...” IMDB has not heard of this person. A Google search does not seem to turn up anything relevant. No sources are provided with the article. ●DanMSTalk 01:54, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Speedy delete g1, patent nonsense, hoax, how much you wanna bet that USDS is a high school? NawlinWiki 13:31, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

USDS Syndrome[edit]

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There are zero Google results for this syndrome. The scientist who allegedly discovered it, "Noam Benson", does not appear to exist (or at least has not made much of an impact in the field). Prod tag contested by article's author. Delete due to lack of verification. ... discospinster talk 02:00, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 06:57, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sam Kolias[edit]

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not notable enough person Mayumashu 17:19, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirected to the main article Stranger Than Fiction (film). Friday (talk) 15:04, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Harold Crick[edit]

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This article does not contribute anything that isn't already in the article of the film. It is not an encyclopedic treatment, as described in the Wikipedia:Notability_(fiction) article, nor is the section on the character in the film page too long Donaldd23 02:58, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Carabinieri 14:41, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Moosebutter[edit]

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  • Comment - I hasn't... but that by itself doesn't mean they're not notable. On the other hand, if you know of any reviews or sources independent of their website with a review or report on them, that would help. Zahakiel 04:19, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's a very super incredibly amazingly famous song, but yeah, the major problem with this article is that its only source has long been the band's website. No good. --Masamage 04:29, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus, defaulting to keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 01:16, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

demoscene.tv[edit]

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Notability not established or sourced per WP:WEB, WP:ATT. RJASE1 Talk 03:49, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Withdrawn by nominator. Arfan (Talk) 16:38, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Puerto Rico (disambiguation)[edit]

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A disambiguation page when there are only two possible uses and only one minor use makes Wikipedia unnecessarily difficult to navigate. WP:DAB would suggest that the best possibility is to use the {otheruses4} tag in the Puerto Rico article to point directly to the alternative page rather than to force readers to click two separate links after typing "Puerto Rico" in the "Go" box, in which case the disambiguation page is extraneous, but one editor insists on that additional step. TedFrank 03:51, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    • I withdraw the nomination per Dhartung's edits. -- TedFrank 13:57, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy deletion; non-admin closing of orphaned AFD per WP:DPR.--TBCΦtalk? 08:39, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ajikan yoga[edit]

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The only 5 G-hits I got for this particular yoga were from other language Wikipedias. This is not encouraging. I have just enough doubt about my judgment in this case to bring it to AfD instead of speedy. Pigmandialogue 03:56, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Seraphimblade Talk to me 10:23, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sounddogs[edit]

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Doesn't really assert notability, doesn't add much to the encyclopedia. I've sent it here seeing as it has been prodded and de-prodded. Picaroon 03:57, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and look what the username of the creator was. I'm just barely not bold enough to delete it as an A7, G11 combo, but there's no rush. Picaroon 04:00, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Further Comment Notability is also established as given by the owner's record listed on IMDB which cites his involvement (and by extension, company's involvement as a source). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Autocracy (talkcontribs) 19:49, 12 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]
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The result was Delete for lack of content. Quarl (talk) 2007-03-14 11:35Z

Ai Bandō[edit]

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Ai Bandou (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (added by closing admin)
Ai Bando (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (added by closing admin)

Articles like this are why the word otaku is often translated "creepy nerd" Nardman1 03:59, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I concur. I really would have gone for a WP:CSD#A7 on this one, but while we're here... this person appears non-notable, the article is completely unsourced. There's nothing here to write an article from. coelacan — 07:59, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Well it's been said before and it will probably be said again, but the Japanese consider blood type to be analogous to a zodiac sign; otaku are just in on this, unlike most Westerners. 213.172.246.68 15:00, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • And there are cultures where pedophilia is not only common but accepted, but I doubt anyone would pound on any visceral reaction we might have to articles including it; let's get a grip on the PChood, shall we? That being said, Delete as NN, fails WP:BIO. Ravenswing 18:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you for the wonderful strawman argument. Blood Type is a trait. It's like having blue eyes or brown skin. It is not comparative to sexual devient behaviour. I objected to this because multiple members disputed the validity of thise as biography (and the editors who wrote it) because they included a common element found in native language biographies as a reason for deletion. That is cultural bias if I've ever seen it. --Kunzite 13:48, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep and move to List of black inventors and scientists. Seraphimblade Talk to me 10:31, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Notable black innovators, inventors and scientists[edit]

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Unprecedented list, overall pointless. Wikipedia isn't like a Middle School Black History Month powerpoint presentation. There is nothing *unique* about being Black and being one of these things so a separate article like this is just plain ridiculous. Categories already exist for any relevance here anyway. Usedup 04:06, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment - while I'm still undecided in re: Keep/Delete, I do feel it's important to bring up WP:USEFUL --Action Jackson IV 05:35, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - I am aware of said essay (not policy or guideline); my reason for voting keep is because of "encyclopedic content." That it also happens to be potentially useful is a contributing factor, but not the main rationale. That being said, I would be in favor of a rename to "List of black inventors" per various comments below. Zahakiel 07:16, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Well, this page isn't very well done, for one thing, I think the name choice is poor. But since Category:Inventors by nationality does exist, I'd say there's no inherent objection to identifying people by race or ethnicity as appropriate. But this page is poorly doing it. I don't know if List of Black Inventors or List of African-American Inventors or what would be the better name to work with though. FrozenPurpleCube 05:21, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment also, it seems the List of Jewish _____ is being thrown around. I will say that there's several distinctions between being "Jewish" and being "Black" - two of which would be the ease of figuring out if someone is black (generally, and yes, there are exceptions), versus the relative difficulty of determining, from sight alone, whether someone is Jewish or not. Additionally, Judiasm is a religious choice. While we can bicker this way and that about determinalism and whether or not people actually "choose" their religion, it all comes down to the fact that it's a lot easier for me to pretend to be a goyim than it was for Michael Jackson to pretend to have light skin. --Action Jackson IV 05:48, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Well, as a European scientist you might be particularly unsuited to comment rashly in this discussion because it neither involves your culture nor your expertise in science. And yet you have no compunctions about saying that it's "clear that this list is for Americans to divide themselves." You might want to be a bit more hesitant about assigning motives to people in other cultures not your own. You might also want to refamiliarize yourself with the Wikipedia principle of "assume good faith." As someone from a continent where ethnic tensions in almost every nation from the Atlantic to the Urals are higher than in America, you might want to treat your self-description more as a humble caveat than a credential. Let me educate you: For those of us in a culture where there are many ethnic groups at different levels of social and ethnic power, and where there is a history of those levels constantly changing over time, these lists perform both a practical and emotional purpose: practical in that they can be used by both middle-school students researching reports and graduate students or researchers studying ethnicity; emotional in that particular career fields have widely varying proportions of ethnic groups and it is often useful to people considering entering those fields to find out about the prominent people from that person's ethnic group who have gone before them. Ethnic organizations often refer to members of their groups who have succeeded in various fields, and one purpose of this is to discourage bigotry from outsiders who have said, in the past, that members of such-and-such a group can't do a particular job. It's not as important, but worth noting that it also happens to be verifiably true that certain ethnic groups, for cultural reasons, often predominate in one field or another for a period of time. That is also useful to study, and these lists might possibly help in that in some way. Particularly among ethnic groups where many people live in impoverished neighborhoods, it has been thought useful for children to know about people from that group who have been successful because despair and discouragement can smother ambition. Most of what I've just written are familiar points to most Americans, whether they agree with them or not. I encourage you to bring up the topic with an American, but when you do, try not to seem presumptuous. Noroton 16:58, 11 March 2007 (UTC) (just edited a few words, no change in meaning Noroton 17:02, 11 March 2007 (UTC))[reply]
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The result was Delete. Quarl (talk) 2007-03-14 11:37Z

Ewar[edit]

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Delete. Does not satisfy notability guidelines for fiction; only one (irrelevant) Google result for "ewar"+"Nuclis". ... discospinster talk 04:09, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Veinor (talk to me) 01:39, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Matthew Books[edit]

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It's a book series without any assertion of notability aside from a few mentions in non-notable websites, nor any that I can discern from a quick search. There are neutrality concerns which would require repairing should the article be kept. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 04:48, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Channelled entities:
Aiwass, Count of St Germain, Djwal Khul, Dr. Fritz, Kryon
Spiritual mediums:
Derek Acorah, Ailene Light, Rosemary Altea, Mina Crandon
Benjamin Creme, Allison DuBois, Eva Pierrakos, Arthur Ford, Colin Fry, Ronna, Herman, Esther Hicks, Gordon Higginson, Estelle :Roberts, Jane Roberts, Betty Shine, Doris Stokes, Swami Laura Horos, James Van Praagh, Lisa Williams, Mary Ann Wintkowski, Patience Worth, and Chico Xavier
--Snooziums 22:39, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
--Snooziums 22:39, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have added the section "Other reviews of the books" to the page. --Snooziums 23:10, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Additional Note: The author of these books, Suzanne Ward, is a regulator guest on BBS Radio, and in fact, is listed on the "shows" section of that Wiki page. Clearly, there is enough notability to be listed on a radio station that has enough notability to be listed on Wiki.

  • Reply. I nominated it because, while a few sources are provided, they're far from notable and I was completely unable to find any better sources despite trying. An AfD affords a decent amount of time to come up with sources. The Wikipedia is not a place for advertisements or for articles about particularly non-notable subjects (especially when they're products); if you can't attribute the statements and claims of notability in this article to reliable sources, and indeed make any substantial claims of notability, then the article should not remain here. If you figure out these sources after the AfD, and if the AfD closes in favour of deletion, you can bring them to deletion review to attempt to have a second AfD or outright overturn the deletion. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 22:47, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Specifically, BBS Radio and Kryon. That's only two pages, and they can be easily delinked. I also notice that you added both links... -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 13:21, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Keep. James086Talk 10:49, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ki Longfellow[edit]

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Notability not established or adequately sourced per WP:BIO, WP:ATT. RJASE1 Talk 04:56, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 06:55, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Lost and Found (Christian rock band)[edit]

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Notability not established or sourced per WP:MUSIC. RJASE1 Talk 05:11, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy deleted per author's request. JDoorjam JDiscourse 02:28, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Katie Lisel[edit]

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Non-notable teen model. Already deleted under WP:CSD#A7. I guess this is going to keep coming back, so it needs to go through AFD once so that it can be deleted under WP:CSD#G4 from now on. coelacan — 04:57, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy deleted per request of original poster. JDoorjam JDiscourse 02:31, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Daniella Morris[edit]

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Non-notable teen model. A bunch of blogs for "references", and websites apparently run by her or her family or her promotional company. (probably User:Mtoa). Nothing like reliable sources to write an article from. Part of a "series", apparently. Image is probably a copyvio. coelacan — 05:01, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How are websites such as Pageantry Magazine, Seventeen Magazine, and Youthnoise run by her, of her family, or promotional companies? Also where are their blogs listed on the references? I don't see any. Image isn't a copyright violation since I'm her manager and I run the website it was put on. You cannot just make accusations for fun or just because you want to because none of what your saying is correct. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mtoa (talkcontribs).

The Youthnoise site is a blog, her entry there is created and self-published there by her. Self-publishing is not reliable sourcing. Please see Wikipedia:Reliable sources. Pageantry? Seventeen? These are the links you've provided: http://www.pageantrymagazine.com/ http://www.seventeen.com/ On neither of those pages do I see anything about your client. And the image still can't be used here, because it's a copyrighted image of a living person, that you haven't released under a free license. See Wikipedia:Image use policy. You can release it under the ((gfdl-self)) or the ((cc-by-sa-2.5)), and then the image can be used on Wikipedia, but keep in mind that this means anyone will be legally able to edit the image in any way and re-release it. So be very certain this is indeed what you want to do. coelacan — 06:53, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's actually NOT a blog, she wrote the article after Youthnoise contacted her asking her to write it, but it was received and published by Youth Noise. Pageantry Magazine and Seventeen Magazine were magazines which covered her stories just like Turn for the Judges magazine.

  • That's something of a flexible rule, especially as long as the article creator is candid about that professional interest. In this case, Mtoa has been asked, by myself and an admin, to participate in these deletion discussions. coelacan — 17:32, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Okay. I don't have a problem with that. ObtuseAngle 17:46, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mtoa, I checked YouthNoise again. Right there on every page it says very clearly: "Register and post content". That's a blog. That means anyone can put anything there. I see no indication that Daniella was personally invited to do so. coelacan — 17:45, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy deleted per request of original author. JDoorjam JDiscourse 02:32, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Miss Teen New York[edit]

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Non-notable beauty pageant. Part of a "series" by User:Mtoa (stands for "miss teen of america"). Links to blogs, a general link to some pageantry magazine. All blatant advertizing. I would speedy but these things keep coming back (like Katie Lisel) so I'd like to get one AFD done so that future deletions can just be WP:CSD#G4. Anyway, nothing here like reliable sources to write an article from. Just say no. coelacan — 05:06, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

PS I just went through the entire Factiva search results for "Miss Teen New York" and didn't find one source that wasn't mistakenly talking about Miss New York Teen USA. Factiva references news articles dating back to the 1980s. I think this is a pretty strong indication that the subject is not notable. -- PageantUpdatertalk | contribs | esperanza 23:02, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy deletion; non-admin closing of orphaned AFD per WP:DPR.--TBCΦtalk? 02:57, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Miss Teen of America[edit]

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Non-notable teen beauty pageant. Note, this is not Miss Teen America which was up for AFD not too long ago. This is part of a series by User:Mtoa. Sources are blogs and general links to internet magazines that may or may not have covered this at some time. In any case not reliable sources to write an article from. Image is probably also a copyvio. coelacan — 05:12, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

this is also hosted at tripod http://misswesternnewyork.tripod.com/ and it's an OFFICIAL miss america preliminary you can double check at www.missamerica.org to see for yourself

you can also view a fully paid for ad for miss teen of america and miss western new york in supermodels unlimited magazine and pageantry magazine — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mtoa (talkcontribs)

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The result was delete. Friday (talk) 15:10, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Lariat car rental[edit]

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Delete - orphaned article about a non-notable fictional company that appeared for a few minutes in a couple of television episodes. Otto4711 05:20, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was nomination withdrawn. Seraphimblade Talk to me Please review me! 08:50, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Victory Christian Fellowship[edit]

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Only sources for the article are affiliated with the subject, and I cannot find any significant secondary or independent sources. This seems to violate WP:ATT in that self-published and potentially biased sources should not be the basis for an article. The article also appears to be promotional. Seraphimblade Talk to me Please review me! 05:45, 10 March 2007 (UTC)Withdraw nomination, source information has been found. Seraphimblade Talk to me Please review me! 08:50, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. Seraphimblade Talk to me 10:44, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Vicky Brago-Mitchell[edit]

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Minimal notability asserted: in the news for having taken her clothes off; since that time, has done a very little of this, that and the other. Not a speedy because not a re-creation of the article created before, this is more carefully done and more comprehensive than its predecessor. Hoary 05:46, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the previous AfD. -- Hoary 05:53, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 11:13, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Paring Bol-anon[edit]

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Unencyclopedic, a directory of Roman Catholic priests in a particular geographic area. I guess if I had to pick a criteria for deletion, it would be WP:ORG or WP:NOT#IINFO. (As an aside, I'm probably going to Hell for nominating this article for deletion.) RJASE1 Talk 06:29, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Keep. Quarl (talk) 2007-03-14 11:39Z

Overseas Chinese Youth Language Training and Study Tour to the Republic of China[edit]

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Article has been around since 2002, but seems full of speculation, rumor, original research. Sources are almost all self-referential or self-published. RJASE1 Talk 06:54, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Page re-tagged - RJASE1 Talk 17:27, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Delete. Quarl (talk) 2007-03-14 11:41Z

Investiture of the Gods (chapter 1)[edit]

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All these articles constitute is an unsourced plot summary, which may be construed as unattributable original research. Also, this plot summary is far too detailed, thus failing WP:NOT#IINFO. Merging isn't really an option here due to the sheer size of what we're dealing with. MER-C 06:50, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Overall, you could say that my chapter articles could be used as external informational links to each character within the Fengshen Yanyi characters category. If these chapters remained in existance, I could take every character and organize them into a few different character list article (such as "officials of the Shang Dynasty", or "Superiormen of Fengshen Yanyi"). Within each biography, I could say a general amount of information, and then provide bold subtitles of the characters' specific actions that will lead to a chapter; Thus chapter articles could combine "trivial" information with general information that is wanted by Wikipedia. Thus, these actions will make Wikipedia more creative and will combine information with Wikipedia's standards, and the want of the people. User:Tathagata Buddha, 10 March 2007 (EST)

Even if so, these chapter articles could be used as a source of trivial information that may wish to be known. For example, see Characters of Kiba; this is a grand example of an unorganized - far too uncategorized article. My objective is to take a page like this, trim down it's information, and basicly you could say transfer it to external articles (such as a chapter article in this case). For example, I could take every character currently within the Fengshen Yanyi character category and put them into a few different mass article pages, such as "Offficials of the Shang Dynasty" and "Superiormen of Fengshen Yanyi". After telling a certain amount of general information for each character based from each specific plotline (or chapter in this case), I could label the corresponding chapter within parenthesis.

Example:

Su Daji Su Daji is a major character featured within Investiture of the Gods who has contributed greatly to the Shang Dynasty's fall. Throughout Daji's many torture devices, the Bronze Toaster (6) would be her first creation. The Snake Pit, and the Meat Forest (17) would be her additional creations throughout the course of the novel.


Thus, instead of rambling on amount information that is "trivial", but yet needed in order for an individual to completely understand the plotline, the chapter articles could serve as information containers. As of the moment, my Category:Fengshen Yanyi characters is rather unorganized and generally says information that is already said within my chapter articles. Thus, by keeping these chapter articles alive, far more organization within the Fengshen Yanyi characters could be achieved and "trivial" information could be at a set base, while "general" information is at another base. Even if it is not seemingly right to have chapter articles within this foundation, it will avoid overcrowdment and will instill creative organization; and I thus believe they should be contined. However, if the chapters are still linkable from wikipedia to wikibooks, then I will conclude that such an action could be acceptable. User:Tathagata Buddha, 11 March 2007 (EST)

  • Comment: Adding a delete vote would be gilding the lily, so I'll just confine myself to these remarks. I appreciate that you think Wikipedia ought to be more creative, but what Wikipedia is is an encyclopedia. We all want "creative" encyclopedias like we want "creative" telephone books or "creative" computer instruction manuals. These entries would have no place in a telephone book or in a computer instruction manual, and they have none here. RGTraynor 18:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy keep using the snowball clause. The article was nominated without the realization that, at that point, the article had been vandalized.--TBCΦtalk? 08:49, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Crump[edit]

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Vulgar nonsense NorthernThunder 07:21, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Speedy delete, original research, should be covered at NASA if anywhere. NawlinWiki 13:34, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why Nasa was created[edit]

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An essay of sorts containing likely original research. All of the good info is already covered in the NASA article. PROD was removed by the article creator. Wickethewok 07:29, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. DS 01:41, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Chipmonk nest[edit]

The term "chipmonk nest" is a non-notable neologism used in one movie. It is not encyclopedic on its own and likely does not even merit inclusion in the Nacho Libre article. Hemlock Martinis 07:29, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. -Royalguard11(Talk·Review Me!) 01:43, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tremblay Road[edit]

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Prod contested by an IP address with no reason given. Yet another road article that makes no claim to notability, offers nothing more than directory information and provides absolutely no sources. Fails WP:BIO, WP:NOT a directory/gazeteer and WP:ATT. Nuttah68 08:04, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment If it is a major road I'd agree. However, there are no sources in the article to confirm this and Google news provides nothing either. Likewise, the first 100 GHits offer nothing more than trivial mentions as business addresses, the location of a station or as part of directions. Nuttah68 18:56, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The road fails to make it on this template: ((Ottawa Roads)), which is even in the article for some reason. --Holderca1 14:21, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 06:54, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Esmée Denters[edit]

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Internet singing "star". Delete as non-notable per WP:MUSIC, article also contains violations of WP:CRYSTAL. RJASE1 Talk 08:24, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. Majorly (o rly?) 15:44, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Films featuring a white protagonist in Africa[edit]

Strikes me as a rather random topic. Would make a great essay topic- looks like it's got it's thesis with how Africa is used to appear "exotic" and that it consequently gives Africa a poor image- but Wikipedia isn't the place for that. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 08:40, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tarzan's children: Why movies about Africa require white saviors.[11]

Comment - I had a thought that maybe the subject matter of the article could be broadened and the article could be renamed to something like Ethnic stereotypes in depictions of Africa to match up with Ethnic stereotypes in popular culture and Ethnic stereotypes in American media. It's just a thought, but it might help step away from the problem of "listiness" that the article has now. Driller thriller 11:51, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Delete. Quarl (talk) 2007-03-14 11:46Z

Roman Catholic Diocese of Honolulu - Clergy[edit]

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Delete per WP:NOT#IINFO. RJASE1 Talk 09:02, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Keep. Quarl (talk) 2007-03-14 11:46Z

Just Men![edit]

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Unreferenced article about an apparently minor game show. Reads as original research, and fails to estalish the significance of the subject. Guy (Help!) 09:55, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Unattributed does not mean unnatributable. Almost all of this can be taken from the show itself without resorting to OR. The OR that should be removed is "(hence the title)." And 'such as "Have you ever been in trouble with the law?"' should be changed to 'An example question is "Have you ever been in trouble with the law?"'. - Peregrine Fisher 19:54, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus but note that the discussion trended keep in the last couple of days after the article was modified.-- Chaser - T 10:10, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Faux pause[edit]

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Unreferenced article about a TV show. No idea how long it ran for, or indeed pretty much anything else about it. Guy (Help!) 09:56, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Φtalk? 02:54, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Veinor (talk to me) 01:02, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

S.C. Esmoriz (2nd nomination)[edit]

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Notability hasn't been established. Completely unsourced. No results from Google books or News Archive. Virtually no english language results from google apart from Wikipedia. Addhoc 10:02, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -Royalguard11(Talk·Review Me!) 01:45, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hop (drug)[edit]

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Article is a very well written dicdef, belongs at (and already is at) wiktionary Vicarious 10:42, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete It's just a slang term for heroin and a fairly obscure one at that. I can't see any justification for keeping it here. Peter Isotalo 16:19, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. Majorly (o rly?) 15:47, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Israeli Pro Wrestling Association[edit]

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I've done searches for this wrestling promotion, and found nothing to prove it's notable enough for Wikipedia. RobJ1981 10:44, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 11:14, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Orff's Carmina Burana in popular culture[edit]

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The way to fix excessive trivia in articles is to prune it, not to split it out into articles which are entirely composed of trivia. I absolutely love Carmina Burana and can sing much of it fomr memory, and I grew up with the Old Spice advert, but this is still just a collection of cruft which got too big for the article and should have been hacked down to size. Guy (Help!) 10:52, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Keep. KrakatoaKatie 03:14, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Quinta das Lágrimas[edit]

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This page not only reads like an advertisement, but included no more than the lore available from the Hotel's website Galf 10:57, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The reference to the Hotel should not have been deleted. The last time I visited the place was 20 years ago, and to suggest the place to foreign friends, reference to the hotel is important. Having accomodations in such a beautiful place is important information.

I strongly urge that the Hotel information may be diluted but absolutely not erased.

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The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 11:16, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ashique Mostafa[edit]

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—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ragib (talkcontribs) 11:05, 10 March 2007 (UTC). Vanity page on Non-notable film maker. Subject himself created the entry. only 176 google hits, most of which are from personal websites by the subject himself. The film mentioned is a student film. Ragib 11:01, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was Keep. Quarl (talk) 2007-03-14 11:47Z

Special effects of The Lord of the Rings film trilogy[edit]

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First off: a prod was on this, and removed because the creator of the article claimed it was "vandalism". Anyway: this is pure fancruft. Lots of movies have special effects, Lord of the Ring being a popular series doesn't make this any more notable. Put this on a fan wiki, not Wikipedia. RobJ1981 11:08, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment. Bad faith? Wrong. My opinion isn't bad faith. If you want to talk about bad faith: removing a prod by calling it "vandalism" is bad faith. Anything can be referenced: it doesn't mean it's suitable for Wikipedia. RobJ1981 12:14, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was merge to a list of characters of the (video game) series. - Bobet 18:11, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Private First Class Stephan "Obi" Obrieski[edit]

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This set of articles covers the main and support characters in the Brothers in Arms series. Individual characters are not notable enough for their own articles and lack reliable sources that are not in-universe. These articles are little more than a collection of what happens in the game to each character, which often overlaps and should already be covered in the game articles. I would merge, but considering the length of the article name and non-standard rank usage, it's unlikely that anyone will input the whole title for a merge. Scottie_theNerd 11:51, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Further comments: Clearly, these articles have been hastily put together by one person without realising the significant overlap of each article. Also considering the names are practically unsearchable due to the use of rank, name and nickname (never presented all together in the game) and the creation of a category just for these characters, I don't see much merit in keeping, merging or even redirecting these. As mentioned above, some of these characters are barely notable in the games, let alone as standalone Wikipedia articles. --Scottie_theNerd 12:10, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been added to the list of CVG deletions. --Scottie_theNerd 12:10, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am aware of that. I'm simply listing this here as a reminder to put Category: Brothers in Arms characters through the CfD deletion process after the articles are deleted, since there would be nothing left in the category. --Scottie_theNerd 15:45, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Majorly (o rly?) 15:52, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of band name etymologies[edit]

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It's a list of information that belongs in each bands article. The list will become so big over time that it will be impossible to maintain. Sourcing the article would be a superhuman task. Delete Pax:Vobiscum 11:54, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • List of bands named after places
  • List of band names with date references
  • List of eponymous albums
  • ...
--Infrangible 16:50, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
As noted elsewhere, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS doesn't justify this article, which would be completely indistinguishable from List of bands named after anything at all or List of bands named after nothing in particular. ObtuseAngle 20:05, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletions. -- Pax:Vobiscum 08:53, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Could you explain what you think is useful about the article? Just because something is true and can be sourced doesn't mean it should be included in Wikipedia. My main point is that the info about name etymology belongs in the articles about the bands. Having a list that will grow to be gigantic is of no use. Pax:Vobiscum 12:29, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • NOT#PAPER is not a blanket pass to put up anything that comes to mind. If an article otherwise fails WP:NOT or some other policy, then the fact that this isn't paper doesn't save it. Otto4711 21:50, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Delete. Quarl (talk) 2007-03-14 11:50Z

Truth in Numbers: The Wikipedia Story[edit]

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Delete Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, valy non notable documentary film (Google only 241 hits) and fan film. Lopineg 12:15, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus/keep.-- Chaser - T 09:55, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

365 Fri[edit]

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this article is about debut album of the Norwegian band Tre Små Kinesere it appears to fail WP:MUSIC other then the statement was an instant hit in their home country the article makes no claims of notability for the album or the band. The prod I placed on the article was removed and some minor changes made. ghits are low in English and Norwegian mostly blogs and mirrors. Jeepday 12:36, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Quarl (talk) 2007-03-14 11:50Z

Swan Cut[edit]

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This article has no sources, it's not notable, and mostly nonsense Latulla 12:42, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Quarl (talk) 2007-03-14 11:50Z

Bitch move[edit]

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Only source is Urbandictionary.com Strangerer (Talk | Contribs) 12:52, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 11:17, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Intimo[edit]

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Nonnotable company. Prod contested. Delete as nominator. Femto 12:58, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Speedily deleted by User:CambridgeBayWeather. NawlinWiki 13:37, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ellie walker[edit]

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I would tag this for speedy, but I am not sure it meets the criteria, so I brought it here. Do we really need a page detailing silly nonsense vandalism?>< RichardΩ612 ER 13:17, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 11:44, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Scenes (sociology)[edit]

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Rambling and imprecise dictionary definition. Has one source (not on web), so bringing here just to make sure. NawlinWiki 13:27, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Veinor (talk to me) 01:11, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Alexander Rotenberg[edit]

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Not a notable person. DavidCBryant 13:15, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What I think we need are either reviews or significant mentions by other better known scholars. This is not exactly an easy subject to judge for N. DGG 02:11, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. The subject is Biographies of living people. What's so tough about that, DGG? The article claims that AR is a mathematician, but he's unpublished. That's notable? How? DavidCBryant 12:16, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Obviously is a mathematician in a somewhat specialized sense, even if that is the closest word to describe him.I might choose "numerologist" The general idea behind the N rules for academics is more N than most of the others in the field, and this is not a field where the ordinary sort of publications and faculty positions seem to be applicable. The standards that apply are the ones in this special subject. It further is obviously afield with different groups, who consider their group N, and not the other guys, so selecting any one is inherently POV. This is not that uncommon in some non-science areas. I do not see how BLP is relevant--he meets BLP. Based on what is being said, DGG 08:26, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Can it also be listed at Judaism?DGG 08:26, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm curious what DGG means when he says "The general idea behind the N rules for academics is more N than most of the others in the field …" Doesn't this imply a sort of relativism that would automatically make a "notable" person out of the lone "researcher" in a "field" that nobody else in the world views as meaningful? What sort of a standard is that? DavidCBryant 18:43, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Why is he being referred to as an academic? Nothing in the article or in his book says that he is an academic. McKay 01:21, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If you mean, why should he have been listed as such for deletion sorting purposes: Because the first thing the article says about him is that he's a mathematician, and someone whose primary identification is as a mathematician is generally a type of academic. And because even if he's that rare kind of mathematician who's not a really an academic, he still is reasonably likely to be of interest to the Wikipedians who watch that deletion sorting category. But if you mean, why should he be evaluated according to WP:PROF rather than WP:BIO, I don't know, because I'm not convinced he should be. —David Eppstein 05:31, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
WP BIO should trump WP:PROF. As I see it, WP:PROF is intended to try to specify some objective criteria in an area that might otherwise be hard to judge.
Factions-. In any field,there's a certain tendency to consider the people who agree with us more important than the other guys, who by definition have a lesser understanding of the subject or else we'd be on their side. Thats why there's a bias that needs correction. I don't say it happens always, but a determined effort to judge a particularly idiosycratic scholar NN is at least capable of being based on COI. If he is a leading exponent of his position, he's N. And if he were the only exponent of his position, yes, he would be all the more N. And if he were the only worker on the subject, and the subject were encyclopedia-worthy for intrinsic or popular interest, he would be N. I accept DavidCBryant's logic. If he were the lone worker in it, he would be N. if the field is N. DGG 07:42, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Notability is not subjective. The Flat Earth Society, living on our generally spherical earth, are a bunch of nutty, delusion kooks spouting banana talk, but they are worthy of an article because they are written about in multiple, independent reliable sources, and not because they go against the flow of sanity. Likewise, the notability of one of a small group of exponents of flat earth belief is judged based on his own write up in multiple, independent... and not because the field of adherents of that belief is small.--Fuhghettaboutit 12:42, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Delete. Quarl (talk) 2007-03-14 11:51Z

Consology[edit]

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Not notable, orphaned page. Zaian 13:51, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus, defaulting to keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 01:15, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Varol Akman (2nd nomination)[edit]

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A self promoting article of a non-notable academic. Created by User:Akman, this article doesn't meet WP:A or the notability requirement for biographies. See also: First nomination Alan.ca 14:13, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly a person of such stature should have an article written about him by some well known reliable source? Alan.ca 18:42, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 14:27, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DAS Games[edit]

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nn website, fails WP:WEB, last afd hung on by the skin of its teeth because a few people brought up a mention on a minor cable network. This still is not a WP:RS and the article/subject does not (and will not) get multiple reliable sources. The alexa was never in the top 100,000 and is currently around 3,000,000. It's just another video game site, and there's around 100 on here, way too many. Booshakla 06:48, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Majorly (o rly?) 14:22, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 14:28, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Iowa side[edit]

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Neologism; non-notable location of high school fights. ObtuseAngle 14:25, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy deletion per CSD G11/A7 by Steel359. --NickContact/Contribs 23:37, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

SHARP (showband)[edit]

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Only claims to notability are touring in Sweden and that they were interviewed by a minor Italian magazine. Antonrojo 14:34, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Speedy delete a3, just a photo. NawlinWiki 01:35, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Liam R Neville[edit]

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Page created and edited solely by subject. Just plain Bill 14:41, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. -Royalguard11(Talk·Review Me!) 01:46, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Phrase that Pays[edit]

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Vague description of a non-notable song. Antonrojo 14:49, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Keep. Quarl (talk) 2007-03-14 11:54Z

Advanced Chess[edit]

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Advanced Chess appears to be the name used by a very small group to describe computer-assisted chess. Of the few references cited, at least one calls it ocmputer-assisted chess, not Advanced Chess. A measure of its significance is that the Advanced Chess Association uses a free webhost and does not even have its own domain name. The article seems to be written form personal knowledge, and is essentially unreferenced save for the aforementioned associations. This should either be significantly rewritten, referenced and moved to computer-assisted chess, or deleted. Guy (Help!) 15:19, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Further comments Reviewing the page, apparently, it's sourced from somewhere else, but with a license that while it may be compatible with the GFDL and wikipedia, also may not. I think somebody needs to check that out, and see if it would be worth starting this article over from a clean slate if the license, such as it is, is a concern. FrozenPurpleCube 06:16, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -Royalguard11(Talk·Review Me!) 01:49, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ford Pinto in popular culture[edit]

Ford Pinto in popular culture (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)

Delete - an indiscriminate list of trivia seeking to capture any appearance or mere mention of a specific car with no regard to the importance or lack of same. See for precedent Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of films featuring Mini cars which was deleted despite being composed strictly of actual appearances of the car rather than just someone saying "Mini." Otto4711 15:22, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Scrabble references in popular culture
  • Cultural references to pigs
  • Cultural references to masturbation
  • Cultural references to accountants
  • ...
--Infrangible 16:42, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS is not a compelling argument for keeping this article. The other articles you've listed should probably also be deleted. Otto4711 19:42, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry, I don't see your edits as an improvement. It's still just a collection of times that the word "Pinto" was used in a movie or on a TV show. Otto4711 05:55, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus.-- Chaser - T 10:24, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of most expensive streets by city[edit]

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No criteria for inclusion and unreferenced making it unverifiable listcruft. —Moondyne 15:25, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Bucketsofg 15:58, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Justin Michael Jenkins[edit]

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Unsourced, promotional artist biography - fails WP:BIO, WP:ATT. RJASE1 Talk 16:17, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • User's only edits have been to this article and AfD. Tyrenius 02:29, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi Carolfrog, i do not wish to let these images be used by anyone other than for this article. How do i go about doing that? Any image by an artist is still copyrighted under his name and he retains the rights for at least 100 years after its creation based on the visual arts copyright laws. I find WIKIPEDIA to not be very user friendly (: Could someone tell me how to make these images strictly for use on the article bio page? Thanks, Mike Retla --Michael144 02:28, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • As they are uploaded as fair use, they can only be used in an article about them or the artist. Tyrenius 04:14, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Blatant advertising. Pages which exclusively promote a company, product, group, service, or person and which would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic.

This is blatant advertising, in as much as it exclusively promotes a person. That in itself is not a reason to delete. The reason to delete is that it exclusively promotes a person and needs to be fundamentally rewritten. It is full of original research, POV and peacock terms, is not properly referenced. I am not attacking the author for this, as a new editor will not know all these things. It takes editorial experience to write such an article to the required standard. However, the edit box for a new article states:

Do not write articles about yourself, your company, or your best friend. ... Wikipedia is not an advertising service. Promotional articles about yourself, your friends, your company or products, or articles created as part of a marketing or promotional campaign, will be deleted in accordance with our deletion policies. For more information, see Wikipedia:Spam. Articles that do not cite reliable published sources are likely to be deleted. ... Encyclopedic content must be attributable to a reliable source.

The new editor who chooses to ignore this, does so at their own risk. New editors are invited to contribute to wikipedia, but not to write (self-)promotional articles. For an article like this to be retained, it requires a substantial amount of work to be done on it by an experienced editor — which is not a demand that the original article editor is entitled to make. We are seeing far too many new articles that fall into this category. I think this subject may meet the notability criteria, so that if any editor choose to do the work necessary to create an acceptable text, I will look again. Otherwise, I suggest to Michael144 that he gets proper experience on wikipedia as an editor by helping with a range of articles and working with established users. He may then be in a position to contribute an acceptable article on Justin Michael Jenkins. The only reason I have not speedy deleted this is out of respect for the editors who have already contributed to this AfD, which I think should be allowed to make the decision. Tyrenius 04:14, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hi Tyrenius, after reviewing dozens of artists biographies on wikipedia, i have begun to mold the article in a similiar fashion as theirs. I am not trying to blatantly promote him, just give him credit in a nice article. By the way, we are not friends, but we have worked together and i feel he should be given a chance to be on wikipedia. I would also like to point out that any article or biography on wikipedia is a form of promotion to some degree. You are "promoting" the person by given them a proper article discussing what they have accomplished. I have also began to change the internal links to the wikipedia areas rather than link outside the artivle (my mistake at first - i thought they wanted external links within the article). In terms of reliable sources, linking to direct newspaper articles and other resources that further confirm my points is the wrong way? I am a bit surprised you think this is a self promotional article? I thought writinga biography about an artist was done along these lines after reviewing other artists pages. Also, does wikipedia have editors you can hire to write up biographies and articles? - I would hire someone to help me make this acceptable Thanks, Mike Retla --Michael144 07:59, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Paid edits are forbidden. Wiki is created by volunteers. Please study the policies and guidelines as in the welcome message on your talk page, also the use of references, for which a guide has been provided. You might like to look at Wikipedia:Featured articles for the best articles, as well as WP:ATT, WP:NPOV and WP:PEACOCK. I don't wish to be discouraging, but there are specialist skills that need to be mastered to write within wiki guidelines, so I recommend gaining a much wider experience first of all. Tyrenius 02:33, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Merge to Daedra. Rlevse 12:01, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Daedric alphabet[edit]

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Completely non-notable "alphabet"/font not used anywhere outside of a video game. Delete. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 16:51, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy deleted as copyright violation. —Angr 06:34, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ho Hwee Long[edit]

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Contested PROD. Nonnotable music teacher. No indication of meeting the criteria of WP:MUSIC. —Angr 16:54, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

1. National Junior College Symphonic Band, one of the top three JC Bands in Singapore, which was awarded Gold with Honours.
2. National Institute of Education Symphonic Band, one of the top five bands in the Yamaha European Open Hamar (YEOH) Competition at the 15th International Band Music Festival. (1999)
First Prize with Distinction in the 3rd Division (Adult), at the 14th International Festival for Wind Music (Janitsjarfestivalen) in Hamar, Norway. In 2005, A/P Ho wrote in to renowned Belgian composer, Jan van der Roost, to include a Harp part, which was arranged by A/P Ho himself, in his work, "Amazonia". Jan van der Roost later acceded to A/P Ho's request.
The above comments are from Lmao123, who has contributed only to the article in question and this discussion, and User:121.6.154.98, who is almost certainly the same person logged-out, who has contributed only to this discussion. —Angr 16:18, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Keep. Quarl (talk) 2007-03-14 11:57Z

Chuck Norris Facts[edit]

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A one-line trivia mention in Chuck Norris padded out into a long promotion for a website which is now 404 anyway. Guy (Help!) 17:01, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Compare with All_your_base. An offshoot of Zero Wing, but an article in its own right. Chuck Norris facts were an offshoot of Chuck Norris himself, which is arguably a somewhat different case, but the phenomenon of them on the internet was an event in its own right. Really, the article should be exanded. Autocracy 18:50, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

CORRECT AFD LINK -- for whatever reason the AfD link won't fix, so please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chuck Norris Facts (2) if trying to comment from the AfD master list. Autocracy 21:08, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sourcing concerns not addressed. Shimeru 05:18, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Global Policy Advisors[edit]

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disputed speedy, disputed PROD for non-notable consulting firm that makes no assertion of notability, has no references, and has shown no signs of improvement since creation in Feb-06. any cleanup tags placed on the article are repeatedly removed by anon. IP addresses. delete Cornell Rockey 17:01, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cornell Rockey: Wiki policy states: "Advertising: Articles about companies and products are acceptable if they are written in an objective and unbiased style." Where in the current article do you find objectivity or bias? M nye 17:14, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article has been improved, and the concerns have hopefully been addressed. While, as in all wiki articles, this page, too, is still a work in progress, it should not be deleted altogether just because it is yet to be "perfect." M nye 18:28, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The article has been improved, and the concerns have been addressed. Dragomiloff's "Delete" should not be considered because, based on his/her signature timing, he/she likely had not yet seen the improvements made to the article. M nye 18:48, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -Royalguard11(Talk·Review Me!) 01:50, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Covert Comic[edit]

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Completely non-notable author, and obvious vanity. Delete --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 17:07, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. - Mailer Diablo 14:30, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of Miami Dolphins starting quarterbacks[edit]

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While I do not think this page should be deleted, Jaranda does. Arx Fortis 17:35, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I see value in having a clickable title for any succession box and, in particular, succession boxes for NFL QBs. Why should we require a user to click through an entire succession box to know the list of succession?...or to find the first or most recent person/item in the succession? Here is an example of a succession box (which is on the Dan Marino article with clickable title:

++Arx Fortis 17:35, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -Royalguard11(Talk·Review Me!) 01:51, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Makosi Musambasi[edit]

Nominated as Delete as for not notable enough apart from her campaign to scrape the barrel of celebritydom just to stay in the UK purely to get publicity from the press. Dr Tobias Funke 17:33, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -Royalguard11(Talk·Review Me!) 01:53, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

York@54[edit]

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local TV station, no external sources, no evidence of significance. Oh, and terrestrial analogue is due to be switched off anyway... Guy (Help!) 17:47, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete per WP:A, WP:COI. Sandstein 08:50, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fredrick Pritchard[edit]

Fredrick Pritchard (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
File:Little Movements No. 2.JPG (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) (added by closing admin)

This page is an autobiography. (See WP:AUTO, WP:COI) If Mr. Pritchard is notable, the article needs reference to published sources, and it needs an editor who isn't its subject. Rainwarrior 18:03, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I've reviewed the revised article. My delete still stands. Even if all of the information was adequately sourced (which I don't feel it is), sufficient notability has not been established. — ERcheck (talk) 12:50, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Response from Fredrick Pritchard:

First, I DID remove the previous tag placed on the page, in the belief that the article had been accepted. Apparently User:Kon-Tiki001, had placed the tag, but I replied on his/her talk page (Section: Autobiographies). I presented my arguments and appeal there. He replied, "Your article is probably an exception to the rule, and should in my opinion be allowed to stay." However, I will make efforts to provide sources, and carry out all above requests. Obviously, only someone who knows much about me in each area (composer, performer, theory, and education) would have a reasonably complete basis to act as an editor. Prof.rick 19:21, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Response: I see your point. But I understand that having trained and greatly influenced the work of notable musicians can be regarded as a qualifier. I have trained many notable musicians, some referred to in the article. Does this help? Prof.rick 01:36, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That might be good enough, as long as you can list a source with which it could be verified that you've taught those people. - Rainwarrior 05:21, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The articles Greg Wells, Erin Leahy, and Jonah Cristall-Clarke all make references to me as their teacher. (Is Wikipedia considered a reliable source?) You might also find references to Fredrick Pritchard on their other websites. I have not included other successful musicians I have taught, who do not (yet) have Wikipedia articles. But the above-named will probably have information to contribute to the Fredrick Pritchard article, as will others. (Are quotes from the above artists considered acceptable?) Some may appear very soon...others such as Erin, may take a few weeks due to busy touring and recording schedules. Prof.rick 01:08, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is not considered a reliable source (that would be self-defeating). I checked the websites linked from those articles, but could not find any mention of you. Unless the quote is from the artist in the form of a publically published document, it can't be verified. I personally have no doubt that you taught these people, but if it is not a matter of public record, how is it notable? - Rainwarrior 03:56, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If Wikipedia is not a reliable source, why does it exist? Doesn't talk (such as this) lead to it's credibility? Prof.rick 01:16, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment on Prof.rick contributions: All the references in the above articles cited by Prof.rick — Wells, Leahy, and Cristall-Clarke — were added by Prof.rick. "Proving" oneself notable by salting other articles does not make your case. — ERcheck (talk) 04:26, 16 March 2007 (UTC) Addendum: Prof.rick has also referenced himself in Musical notation - here. — ERcheck (talk) 05:03, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Response to ERcheck This is NOT salting! The above-named artists were first consulted, and were most enthusiastic regarding my contributions, and endorse my article 100%. Why not "wait and see" if these artists remove these edits...or else contact them yourself! (Greg's comments on the Fredrick Pritchard page would help verify this, had you not removed it.) [See Fredrick Pritchard History page.] Furthermore, I have only referenced myself in "Musical Notation" as a PUBLISHED composer. (Perhaps it would help to take an overview of said article, and recognize that this reference helps to "round out" concepts of musical notation.) Prof.rick 03:23, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Those who may know we well as a performer may not know of me as a composer or educator. (And so on, in circa.) This is why I stated (or inferred) that an editor who knows me as a performer, composer, and educator is best qualified to write or edit the article. Prof.rick 05:48, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
And as I said, unless someone can learn these things without knowing you personally, you're not notable, and it's unverifiable original research, which doesn't belong on Wikipedia. Instead, your user page or a personal website is the appropriate place for this information (I suggest copying this over there now because this article is likely to be deleted when the time runs out and this is reviewed by an administrator.). - Rainwarrior 06:47, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
OK, let an Administrator review and delete. I have no doubt Wells, Cristall-Clarke, Leahy, Cook, or others will present a new article, to which I hope you will be open-minded. (But who knows?) Prof.rick 08:42, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

REVISIONS

I have re-written and condensed the article, Fredrick Pritchard. Please check the article's Discussion Page for comments regarding changes, and a rationale for keeping the article. Prof.rick 23:53, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well WP:AUTO may only be a guideline, but it's pretty sound. There's a certain noblesse oblige and also it is invidious having to argue that another Editor is not notable. So I've amended my vote to Delete. But I'm afraid that even if it weren't an autobiography I would still vote delete because there are no reliable published sources cited for the information in the article, and almost ghits. I suggest you put this information in your user space NBeale 11:54, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Response[edit]

Please see the Talk page on this article, Fredrick Pritchard. Prof.rick 01:16, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To User:Rainwarrior Check again! All these pages make references to me, Rick Pritchard (Fredrick Pritchard. True, I edited their pages. However, I have consulted all parties concerned, and they have first approved and supported my moves, and will make it clear. If they support my edits, can this be considered "salting"? (Surely, if a number of these successful artists still return to me for lessons, this must say something!)

Greg Wells tried to add to the Fredrick Pritchard page today, but his move was reverted. Will this happen to every submission by my successful pupils? Prof.rick 01:16, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Wikipedia articles did, but did not cite any sources. I was commenting on the personal websites of the artists, none of which contained any reference to you that I could fine. And yes, direct comments by the artists are not admissable, since there is no way to verify that they are who they claim to be. - Rainwarrior 03:28, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To User:Rainwarrior Would you like a signed letter from them? Or would you question their signatures? (See my notes to ERcheck). IF NECESSARY, the named artists will write to you. 07:08, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To User:NBeale: Thank you for changing "Strong Delete" to "Delete". Is another editor not notable if Wikipedia contains an article about him/her? Please refer to the article's talk page for "published sources", and also please check the References I have provided. (I could add more, but should the page be smothered with references?) Again, I regard this issue as not primarily about me, but about Wikipedia policies, and their interpretation. Whether or not the article is kept is less important to me than the interpretation of Wiki policies. Prof.rick 01:16, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To User:ERcheck: And why shouldn't I reference myself regarding the Musical Notation article? I spent many hours researching the subject, and contributing to the page. The quote (to which I refer) is published and verifiable. Even if my contributions were not founded (contradictory to the page history's evidence), what on earth does it have to do with THIS article? Shall we then question I am a devoted and honest editor, and hope to remain so. I have contributed untold hours to the advancement of Wikipedia.

Furthermore, I can hardly be accused of "salting" when all such edits were done with the approval and support of the subjects of the articles in question. I don't want to argue this case, but please, let's play fair! Prof.rick 01:16, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your support of Wikipedia policy whether or not regarding the Fredrick Pritchard article, User:Kon-Tiki001, User:Black Falcon, Greg Wells, Jonah Cristall-Clarke and Erin Leahy. Prof.rick 01:16, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Wikipedia:Attribution is the applicable policy. Adding what your pupils told you is acceptable cannot be confirmed to the level of reliable sourcing required by Wikipedia. Using these articles as examples of verification of who you have taught is a case of "because I told you". Wikipedia's guidelines on autobiographies describe why autobiographies are problematic (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest). Your contributions are appreciated; but, Wikipedia policies apply to all of your contributions, including an autobiographical article. — ERcheck (talk) 03:38, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
And if ALL my notable pupils were to post entries on my page, OR on their own independent web pages, would this make a difference? (I am questioning the issue of "published" vs. "unpublished".)

Or have you simply made a decision which cannot be changed? 07:31, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Whether or Not[edit]

Whether the Fredrick Pritchard article is KEPT or DELETED, (a matter which doesn't matter a great deal to me); I am just bursting with such remarkable attention! I think its time for a little humour here! Whatever your stand, let's all take a moment to laugh at the entire issue, which, really, is of less importance to the world than we may believe! Not one of us (editor, adminstrator, or the like) can hardly become so absorbed in this issue that it effects our daily lives! Please, everyone, PRO or CON, take some time to put it in perpsective, and LAUGH!!! Wikipidia policies are more legitimately destined to scrutiny, than I am! Prof.rick 06:46, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -Royalguard11(Talk·Review Me!) 01:54, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fumio Nakahira[edit]

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This one is interesting... It is an article about a Japanese holdout who supposedly surrendered in the Philippines in 1980. The problems with this article are the lack of any verifiable material. A Google search pulls up only one line mentions here and there, plus a bunch of Wikipedia mirrors. Other Japanese Holdouts who (verifiably) were found earlier than Fumio have fairly large ammounts of material on them online. "The most famous" one, Hiroo Onoda who was found in 1974, had international media attention and a presidential pardon. If Fumio had been found a full six years later, how come nobody cared? How come there is practically zero information anywhere on this guy? The one external link goes to a website on holdouts, at http://www.wanpela.com/holdouts/. It is a good resource with plenty of info and archival photos on several notable holdouts, but Fumio gets just one line midway down this page. That there is a lot of mentions out there on Fumio suggests that he may have existed. That all the mentions don't have any kind of source of their own, and that there is so little information suggests that he never existed. Keep if we can conjur some verifiable sources, delete if we can't. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 18:24, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. - Mailer Diablo 14:32, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of Taiwanese films[edit]

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Almost completely empty list. Ideogram 18:34, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. No one besides the original nominator argues for deleting the content outright. Merging the data is an editorial decision that anyone can perform if they feel like it. - Bobet 18:23, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yttrium(III) oxide (data page)[edit]

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Article only provides one physical property Inwind 18:39, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment. To expand on this, when the template Template:Chembox was being written, it was decided that putting all chemical properties in the infobox would lead to an excessively bloated box. Therefore, the chembox has a link (Supplementary data page) which leads to supplememtary data pages like this one. They can be thought of as part of the infobox. Spacepotato 00:32, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Majorly (o rly?) 16:03, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Atiur Rahman[edit]

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Non-notable professor and economist. No justification of inclusion shown except for trivial mention in newspapers (which even I have!). Fails WP:PROF. Being a Bangladeshi, I can definitely say that he is not regarded as a significant economist in Bangladeshi media. Trivial mentions (as shown in the newspaper reports) do not count as notability proof. Ragib 18:44, 10 March 2007 (UTC) •[reply]

  • Janata Bank is NOT the second largest Bank in Bangladesh (that would be Rupali Bank). Also, a bureaucratic post occupied by a lot of other bureaucrats. --Ragib 05:49, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is a govt owned bank, and the chairmanship is a bureaucratic post which changes quite often. Had he been the chairman / Governor of Bangladesh Bank (the central bank), it would have been a totally different thing. --Ragib 05:49, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Could you please show the reference? You added without any reference. All of the brief newspaper mentions refer to him as the former Chairman. --Ragib 01:46, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Now, I'm sure your information is incorrect, per this interview [20]. Thanks. --Ragib 01:50, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. -Royalguard11(Talk·Review Me!) 01:56, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Aquaphilia[edit]

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This page has gone unreferenced since I called for valid references in January of 2006. Wikipedia requires that all articles be reference-able by published sources, not self published ones. So documentation by self published online "aquaphile journals" are okay external links but do not factor into the deletion for this article. My question is this: is there a published, valid source that can verify the use of the term "aquaphilia" as it is used on this page. I understand that this is a somewhat popular fetish, but attributability by published sources is policy on wikipedia, not guideline. In my own search using lexisnexis, Jstor and Google Scholar, I have found that there are scholarly articles related to aquatic erotica, but they never call it aquaphilia and have not termed it a sexual fetish, the information on the page is related to attributable things, but is itself unattributable to published source. Lotusduck 18:50, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

comment Have you read the articles and confirmed they don't use the term, or is it only that you did not find it in the title or perhaps abstract? I ask not as criticism, but so as to know where next to look.DGG 05:35, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I did full text searches for aquaphilia in journals, newspapers, books, and after quite a lot of time wasted I didn't find any articles that used aquaphilia to refer to anything sexual. The articles in the external links to the wikipedia article use the term, but are self published web journals, and not acceptable as references for wikipedia under policy. Lotusduck 07:56, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You should read the wikipedia policy on attribution. Your statements are against policy. Self published also typically means "published not by recognized respectable sources" not your definition. Self published almost never means "autobiographical."Lotusduck 22:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I can see how this brief mention of bathtub swimsuit photos as aquaphilia would change your vote from delete, but now how it would change it to keep. If only one published source mentions it and only incidentally, a full article cannot be built of it. A merge is acceptable, but to where?
That article is a primary source, and wikipedia articles require some secondary sources. Even if it were an analytical writing, the coverage of the topic is too incidental to prove notability. From wikipedia's notability guideline: "Trivial, or incidental coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not sufficient to establish notability." Therefore a book or a journal actually discussing aquaphilia that is published by outside sources would make this notable. Lotusduck 22:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Notability is a guideline, not a policy, and is subject to common sense. So, what does your common sense say, can we fully attribute a complete article to a single sentence about someone's prosecution?Lotusduck 22:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Recall that truth is not a wikipedia policy, attribution is, and attribution is defined as to published sources. Proving that something is thought about by humans is also not a factor in the notability guideline.Lotusduck 00:50, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
"A secondary source is an study written by a scholar about a topic." This article does not analyze or synthesize anything, and if we are to treat it as a secondary source "Trivial, or incidental coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not sufficient to establish notability."
It seems like you are endorsing using forums and self published websites for sources. If so it is you that needs to take your arguments to the attribution policy talk page. There is serious question to notability. As for using self published sources, the definition of a neologism is always contentious, and an article must not be based primarily on unreliable sources. Nobody has shown any other sources from which anyone could really base this article on. Lotusduck 00:50, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Merge to Glitches found in the Pokémon video games. Quarl (talk) 2007-03-14 12:01Z

Pokemon bad eggs[edit]

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Poorly written stub about what seems to me to be a non-notable topic; written entirely as an instructional guide and cites no references. Brandon Dilbeck 18:57, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind - now I see there's no references, so Delete. --Libertyernie2 17:08, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 11:45, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Women's wrestling type of matches[edit]

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The rules of these matches are all well covered on List of professional wrestling match types. This page will never be more than an unnecessary list of results. «»bd(talk stalk) 18:58, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep (nomination withdrawn). Wodup 05:58, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Luddite fallacy[edit]

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Contested prod. Fails WP:NEO and WP:NPOV. "Luddite fallacy" gets 57 hits on Yahoo and 118 hits on Google, many of which are mirrors of the same article on Jeremy Rifkin. Apparently there is a source for the term but if there is, there is nothing here that isn't already covered better in the critical section of the article on Luddism. Dragomiloff 19:02, 10 March 2007 (UTC) Nomination withdrawn Dragomiloff 20:23, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Jersey Devil 21:45, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Greater Phoenix Boffing Group[edit]

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not at all notable Wjousts 19:15, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete, WP:CSD#G11, with text like "Our staff actively contributes to international scientific conferences". Sandstein 20:10, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pasiphae[edit]

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Fails WP:CORP PoliticalJunkie 19:32, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Respect - The Unity Coalition. Mergers can be done from history, but should involve only content attributed to reliable sources. These are currently lacking. Sandstein 08:46, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Student Respect[edit]

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Insufficiently notable student organization. Delete and redirect to Respect Party. --Nlu (talk) 19:44, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 01:16, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

British Rail Class 378[edit]

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The only evidence this class exists is a number the aritcle's author found within an artist's impression on a flyer distributed to local residents. Given the intended audience of the flyer, there is no reasonable expectation that the publishers would have verified such a piece of technical ephemera was accurate. The topic area is already well-covered at London_Overground#Rolling_stock Dtcdthingy 19:50, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - the fact that TfL have gone to all the trouble of releasing an official artist's impression on an official piece of publicity with a clearly visible class number (378 000) is indicative that this will prove to be the final class number of the new rolling stock. To say "given the intended audience of the flyer, there is no reasonable expectation that the publishers would have verified such a piece of technical ephemera was accurate" is one individual expressing an opinion; can this be reasonable grounds for deletion? Hammersfan 10/03/07, 22.20 GMT
Yes, because they're dead right. The notion that the artist's impression showing the number is a definitive indication that it will carry that number is utter poppycock. Chris cheese whine 23:20, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If you have an issue with the title of an article, propose a move - don't proposed deleting it. Thryduulf 10:51, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - very well, then see TfL Board Meeting, 25/10/06 Agenda Item 4, Page 5 "Following the announcement for 44 trains for London Overground services, Bombardier have started mobilisation at their Derby plant. The first trains will be delivered in late 2008 and have been categorised by Network Rail as Class 378s." I believe that counts as verifible evidence. Hammersfan 11/03/07, 12.35 GMT
I don't. Do you know what a "placeholder" is? Chris cheese whine 00:44, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
So you're questioning a freely available, published document from Transport for London, that states categorically that Network Rail has categorised the new rolling stock as "Class 378"? Fair enough then, I guess you must be right and the body that runs public transport in London must be wrong. By the way, there's also Sept 29 2006 if you want to disbelieve that as well. Hammersfan 11/03/07, 01.00 GMT
  • cough* WP:RS *cough* That's one primary source, and one non-source (we don't believe random websites that say "X have said that Y confirmed Z" without stating their sources). Chris cheese whine 01:18, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, I'm done playing with you now. I have provided a source for the item that is being contested on here. You have made it plain you disagree. It's now for other people to decide whether it's a worthy enough source. I suggest we leave it at that. And as it happens, I do know what a placeholder is. I also don't appreciate the whole "cough" thing, which IMHO shows a distinctly purile attitude. Hammersfan 11/03/07, 01.30 GMT
There's no need to be rude[22]. Chris cheese whine 01:46, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Would you at least agree that, according to the TfL board meeting minutes, the Class number 378 has been agreed and assigned? Hammersfan 11/03/07, 18.46 GMT
Yes, possibly. I am still going to say merge it with 376 due to similarities and modelling, amongst other things. Simply south 19:15, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
So your view is merge with Class 376, not delete? Hammersfan, 11/03/07, 19.40 GMT
The point you seem to be missing is that you shouldn't have to dig around for evidence for something as important as the name of your article. Admittedly, the minutes do make your case a bit stronger, but there's really no hurry to create this article until a number is officially announced. I'm OK with the number being mentioned in Wikipedia, but only with the appropriate framing (ie seen in some documents, but not officially announced). That would preclude the article with this name existing, since that implies it is a hard fact. --Dtcdthingy 20:14, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
In which case just change the article to say that the name is the presumed name but has not been officially announced. Thryduulf 10:51, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
While I will maintain that the article should be seperate (and I'll cite the Class 395 article as a precedent) because I'm the advocate, I would find Simply south's suggestion of merging it with the Class 376 article acceptable until such time as TfL announce that this class will be Class 378 in a more public way, if you would also find that acceptable. I am grateful that you do accept the validity of the source I have provided, unlike others. However, I would appreciate knowing the opinions of a few others who may have an interest. Hammersfan, 11/03/07, 21.05 GMT
I agree that this should be separate from the Class 376 article, as the 376s have nothing to do with TfL and thus all the TfL stuff, beyond a single sentence that the trains are similar, would be irrelevant to that article. A good precedent is that the Airbus A380 article was at Airbus A3XX before the name was officially announced. Thryduulf 10:51, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I'm afraid I wouldn't agree with that analysis. "Wikipedia is not a collection of unverifiable speculation". Whilst I've previously said that I believe the meeting minutes to be a strong source for the classification, the existence of these trains is under no doubt. This article should certainly not just simply be deleted, it should either be kept as per my reasoning or merged into Class 376 if the TfL source isn't considered strong enough. Another option could be the renaming but I'd be unsure of what a suitable name might be. Adambro 08:43, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
WP:CRYSTAL would apply if the content of the article was speculation, but it isn't. Even the title, which appears to be all you have issue with, has a reliable source. When the name is not certain but the subject is, then we either use a placeholder name or we make it clear in the intro that the name has not been finalised. Thryduulf
But as mentioned in the opening comment, most of the material in this article is covered by London Overground#rolling stock, so the logic next step after your proposed rename is to merge it there. In other words, once you lose the name, there's no reason for this article to exist. --Dtcdthingy 13:16, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Assuming this article is kept though, it wouldn't be a particular stretch to alter the text in the main London Overground article to have that as a brief summary, and then this as the main bit about the rolling stock. Hammersfan 12/03/07, 13.30 GMT
That would make the most sense as it seems likely that 378 is correct so this article is likely to be expanded to cover a wider scope than what can be included in London Overground#rolling stock. Adambro 15:27, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I'm not sure that it not existing yet really justifies merging it, we have plenty of articles about future events. It seems that the only thing really under question is the name. It seems most likely that it will be the 378 and as such I suggest it makes sense to keep it there unless anything emerged to bring the numbering into doubt. As per Thryduulf's comment, it could be a good idea to mention in the article that name and details might be subject to change. Maybe a template like Future London Transport Infrastructure might be appropriate. Adambro 08:49, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
But the thing is the meeting minutes clearly state that it is Network Rail who have classified it as Class 378 Hammersfan, 13/03/07, 22.45 GMT
Hammersfan makes a very valid point in making that distinction. I must agree with the comments by RFBailey with reference to the AfD itself. It would seem strange to delete a perfectly good article when the doubt is just the title. I'd suggest a better approach would have been to discuss this on the talk page as a possible page move or merge. Adambro 22:56, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The point is not valid at all. Meeting minutes are a record of what individuals have said during the meeting. Minutes are never a reliable source. They are not a definitive statement of anything other than what was said and who said it - even then they not even be right in this. It does not reliably state "This is C378". What it does say reasonably reliably is "Someone in TfL says that someone in NetR says it's C378". Put the useful stuff into London Overground and leave a suitable redirect. Chris cheese whine 23:00, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I would have to disagree with you there Chris. Whilst I appreciate the nature of meeting minutes, I don't think they simply are a record of what was said, that would be a transcript. They provide a summary of the topics discussed and matters raised. These minutes are likely to have been distributed to the attendees prior to publication and as such any misinterpretations could be corrected. The statement within the document is clear; "The first trains will be delivered late 2008 and have been categorised by Network Rail as Class 378's". This kind of statement leaves little doubt. So, I would suggest, it makes sense that we use this as the name until something can be presented that might imply an alternative numbering. I would however, welcome suggestions as to how the article might be reworded slightly so as to inform the reader that there is some doubt about the name. Adambro 23:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
A sentence in that case could be added saying something like "The Class 378 number was first announced by TfL Commissioner Peter Hendy at an open session meeting of the TfL board on 25 October 2006, but has yet to be officially released" Hammersfan 13/03/07, 23.30 GMT
I have asked both TfL and Network Rail that very question (well, more specifically "Is the new rolling stock to be classified as Class 378?"), and am waiting for their replies. While, as far as I can see, Network Rail are not bound by the Freedom of Information Act, TfL are and so the question I asked them was phrased as an FOI request. Once I hear from either or both, I will post their replies on the article's talk page. Hammersfan 14/03/07, 11.25 GMT
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The result was Delete. Quarl (talk) 2007-03-14 12:02Z

Meaninglessness[edit]

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This seems like a vanity article. It consists entirely of writing of this Colin Leslie Dean person, and does not seem significant in any way. See also the talk page for Absurdism darkskyz 20:16, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

PS, ... and wouldn't Nihilism already cover this? Autocracy 21:20, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, and Nihilism appropriately attributed as well. --Charlene 21:53, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Whatever. You can be "outstounded" all you want, but you have been informed numerous times what Wikipedia is, and what it is not, but you keep making the same straw man argument. So, maybe Wikipedia is just a bunch of payed monkeys making "authorative" articles, but maybe your work will be more "aligible" at Encyclopedia Brittanica. Wavy G 05:30, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. -Royalguard11(Talk·Review Me!) 01:57, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Connecticut pirate radio stations[edit]

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Unsourced list, no references, appears to fail WP:NOT and WP:ATT. Dragomiloff 20:20, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Quarl (talk) 2007-03-14 12:03Z

Richard Lee Orey[edit]

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Non-notable individual TigerShark 20:23, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Redirect to Xenomorph (Alien). Quarl (talk) 2007-03-14 12:04Z

Giger's Alien[edit]

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A pointless list of names for the Alien featured in the Alien films. Fan fluff and OR. Driller thriller 20:25, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There should be no merger. Xenomorph (Alien) is full of inconsistencies in the canonical description of the creature. Giger's Alien directly addresses the inconsistencies of the canon of the aliens creature, but only to the point of how the creatures are named as to avoid redundancy. The information in the xenomorph article could necessarily change due to future additions to the fictional universe. On the other hand, the accurate information on the GA page can only be added to. So while the canon of xenomorph is temporally based on new input, the GA page is a history of different incarnations of the creature (which uses the names the creature is called as landmarks). Combining the two articles would complicate things by either removing information or requiring both a canon and a historical analysis of the changes in the steps of the canon. There are other articles on wikipedia that have similar dual (or more) pages on different ideas behind a subject. These two articles may be about the "same" subject (the creature), but they are not addressing the same ideas. Maybe GA needs work, but xenomorph is not a perfect article either. That is the point, so the GA article is not pointless. I disagree that it is fan fluff. Batman Dead End, for example, is fan fluff. It is not canon (other than how it appears on imdb.com), nor does it matter to any aspect of the canon. In addition, there are many places on wikipedia where information is not absolutely exclusive to one (and only one) article. The information on these two pages, and the separation of the two subjects, better allows for the understanding of the creature, and the ways the creature has been interpreted by so many writers, artists, producers, etc. --Trakon 14:35, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"This page doesn't aid understanding, it hinders it." If that statement were true, then things in the GA article that have been written that were in fact true have aided the degeneration of the understanding of a subject. The xenomorph and GA articles are not dealing with the same issues and they do not function in the same way. The xenomorph article will change in content, while the GA article will expand its content; the xenomorph article can expand its content, but the verified content of the GA article cannot be changed. Maybe you think GA should be called "A list of names of the creature from the Aliens movies" (or hopefully something shorter in length). Other articles on wikipedia use supplemental articles to define different levels of abstraction. Maybe you think there is not enough information for the GA article to carry its own weight? In this case redundancy solves the need for the GA article. But if you are trying to tell me that redundancy of information is purely the reason to merge different levels of abstraction on a subject, I would have to disagree. Or at least I would have to know where to arbitrarily draw the line at a level of abstraction or an amount of information in order to separate one article into two or more articles.
Concerning, once again, the Batman Dead End short, it is my opinion that almost everything in general is fluff. It is my opinion that especially fan-fiction is fluff. I realize that my views on this may be in a minority, but I am not throwing out information. I will not purposefully spread misinformation or lead someone away from accuracy, but I do not really care about Wikipedia's notability requirements (or any other requirements, except for when we share opinions), the Xenomorph (aliens) article, or the Giger's Alien article. But I do care for accuracy of information and my own self-interests. In this case, I am either right and knowledgeable by default, or I am subject to being lead to the truth by people like yourself. To me, that is why wikipedia is interesting, because it is a communal hub of information, thoughts, and ideas (the community somehow arguably being self-interested, but nonetheless well intentioned for the whole). The content of an article X is only a place to start.
If still none of this has further made clear myself and my arguments, and if you still do not agree with the ones you do understand, then I think we are not communicating, unfortunately, and I am finished (exhausted, time to move on, I type too much, etc). If you do understand and agree, then I think we are finished. If you disagree with something I have said that you now understand, I might continue this discussion. --Trakon 02:50, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Redirect to West Chester Area School District. Quarl (talk) 2007-03-14 12:05Z

East Bradford Elementary[edit]

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Non-notable elementary school. Tarret 20:52, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -Royalguard11(Talk·Review Me!) 01:58, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Alex Rudloff[edit]

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The article is simply the curriculum vitae of a web-developer (appart from the section that reads "On December 16, 2006 Alex got engaged to his girlfriend Kathryn Staczek."). He may have worked at notable companies like Netscape, but this doesn't make one notable, no matter how good one could have been on his tasks. Google returns a great number of hits for his name, but most of them are posts by himself on open forums or his profiles accounts on a diversity of websites. The article seems to be maintained by the person in question himself, User:Alexrudloff, that also wrote the bulk of the article about his "long time business partner Gavin Hall" Abu badali (talk) 21:31, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To clarify, an acceptable claim of notability would be something like interviews (or some other kind of coverage) in reputable news source. I would retract this nomination if it can be shown that the subject of the article is something more than a internet entrepreneur, blogger, and web developer that worked for notable companies. --Abu badali (talk) 21:35, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. -Royalguard11(Talk·Review Me!) 01:59, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nittany Mall[edit]

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This mall is generally unremarkable when compared to similar malls. Thanks, GChriss <always listening><c> 21:31, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Quarl (talk) 2007-03-14 12:06Z

Larry Ospinelli[edit]

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Hoax. I can find absolutely nothing about this person nor can I find anything on any of the books this person supposedly authored. This is the third incarnation of this article, the other two were nonsense articles as well. IrishGuy talk 21:45, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 17:30, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Arizona Virtual Academy[edit]

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non-notable school Chevinki 21:55, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Redirect to Sam's Town. Quarl (talk) 2007-03-14 12:07Z

Bling (Confession of a King)[edit]

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Very short article, contains no info on the song itself, despite being created about five months ago. ErleGrey 22:01, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Dihydrogen monoxide hoax wannabe. Quarl (talk) 2007-03-14 12:08Z

OxygenProject[edit]

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A "health awareness campaign" working to spread the word about a "highly infectious disease" which "is as of yet medically unidentified." Can't find any references about this and can't glean anything out of Google about it. It fails WP:V and could be WP:HOAX. De-prodded without comment. - IceCreamAntisocial 22:03, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -Royalguard11(Talk·Review Me!) 02:00, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Madisen Su'a[edit]

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This article has not been edited since its creation, suggesting a lack of interest in the article and the subject of the article seems to lack notability. Also, there are no links to this article from other pages. GDon4t0 22:07, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. -Royalguard11(Talk·Review Me!) 02:01, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yo[edit]

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Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Sections on usage and popular culture are Original research besides. De-prodded with comment "it is encyclopedic." I disagree, it's Wiktionaric. Already transwikied. Pan Dan 22:19, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This is not a dictionary entry. I think it is appropriate to an encyclopedia that covers popular western culture. Although it gets vandalized a lot, I have been watching it for a long time. It's just as legitimate as articles like Hello and many other articles that explore the encyclopedic side of words, that dictionaries generally don't. ፈቃደ (ውይይት) 22:27, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yo, Keep! More content than there is at wiktionary:Yo. Abeg92contribs 22:33, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Because of the transwiki no content would be lost even if this article were deleted from Wikipedia. I don't know how Wiktionary works, but I assume you are free to merge Wiktionary:Transwiki:Yo into Wiktionary:Yo. Pan Dan 00:23, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The article is a sad mess in need of pruning, but I think the word's long history (it goes back to the 30s) and wide, varied usage means this deserves more than a simple dictionary entry. I've added another source to the article, and hopefully people will turn up more. William Pietri 00:29, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the ref, but I wish you had added it to the Wiktionary entry instead. Dictionary entries don't have to be "simple." Information about the extensive usage and history of "yo" should go in its entry on Wiktionary. Pan Dan 00:33, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm... What's your test for which words deserve an entry in Wikipedia as well as Wiktionary? Thanks, William Pietri 00:42, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:WINAD, Wiktionary articles "are about the actual words or idioms in their title" and "A full dictionary article (as opposed to a stub dictionary article, which is simply where Wiktionary articles start from) will contain illustrative quotations for each listed meaning; etymologies; ...". Information about a given word is Wiktionary content. In the case of "yo," I can certainly imagine that a Wikipedia article may be possible, for example perhaps on controversy generated by its usage. (This of course would depend on whether there are any reliable sources on that.) But the current version of Yo is 100% Wiktionary content. Pan Dan 12:44, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Speedy delete, blanked by author.

Laranjeira[edit]

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Article about "an active and known orginized crime family" with no sources. Google and Google News don't turn up any meaningful results for searches including Laranjeira crime, Laranjeira "Cosa Nostra", Laranjeira Linwood (the town claimed as their base). May be an attempt to smear someone named Laranjeira. FreplySpang 22:26, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Keep. Quarl (talk) 2007-03-14 12:11Z

England and Wales[edit]

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All of the material on this page is already present in the entry on Wales. It is also better handled there. England and Wales has no particular meaning when there are entries for England, Wales, Britain and the United Kingdom --Snowded 22:19, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

England and Wales are never treated as a State, that role is the United Kingdom or Great Britain (both of which have entries). They have a common legal system which also has an entry. All cross references to England and Wales are simply names of societies that would be better served by England and Wales. --Snowded 05:59, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
State was bad choice of words, I have changed it to entity. When the United Kingdom was formed, England and Wales were regarded as a single item. That is why the Union Jack has no Welsh element. The fact that England and Wales are more inter-related than England and Scotland is an important historical fact. This article is the place to highlight this, and how it still effects the modern country. The article has been greatly improved by the recent addition of the sections. MortimerCat 09:43, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The page on Wales makes the linkage clear (it is not so present on the England article). It is an historical fact that should be reflected in articles on the United Kingdom and in the articles for Wales and England. There is no need for a separate article on this subject alone.--Snowded 19:54, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Incomplete is not, but unnecessary is. The entires for the United Kingdom could easily include this. All the references to this article are for organisations that have welsh and english membership and the article addes no value to those. The statistical material is self evident on the relevant articles and if someone wants the full history then it is laid out in the Wales article in some detail.
My point wasn't about the material, but about the entity. There are loads of articles for statistical areas, census regions etc. This is one of them. Totnesmartin 13:35, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I think if the article was called "Statistical Area: England and Wales" and was a simple statement of links then I can see an argument. However "England and Wales" attracts the sort of meaningless, better handled elsewhere material which is currently there. Overall I remain convinced that this is one of those many examples or articles for articles sake and if something adds no value it should be removed.--Snowded 14:10, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Speedy keep - admitted WP:POINT nomination. Newyorkbrad 23:01, 10 March 2007 (UTC)))[reply]

Yellow Submarine (song)[edit]

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This is actually an object lesson in demonstrating that separate notability guidelines for songs are, in fact, needed. Technically, this, as written, does not demonstrate itself as meeting the general notability guidelines, but I find it hard to argue that the song is not actually notable. So, I'm throwing out that it should be deleted as the rules stand--which is true--and seeing what comes of it. Devilot 22:33, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -Royalguard11(Talk·Review Me!) 02:02, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

San Pablo Town Center[edit]

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There is nothing notable about a local shopping center with grocery and drug stores. Shopping center entries should be limited to those that at least have two department store anchors or are notable in some other way. Otherwise we would be violating Wikipedia is not a directory. Proofreader J-Man 22:28, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge into SAT. KrakatoaKatie 03:40, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Trevor Loflin[edit]

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Impressive, but I don't think it's notable enough to warrant an article Garion96 (talk) 22:35, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Veinor (talk to me) 01:04, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A-M[edit]

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Does not appear to meet notability. Link to affiliated group takes you to a disambiguation page that does not list that group, so even the group, which could conceivably meet notability, does not have a page. Proofreader J-Man 22:18, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]



I have reviewed this page and disagree becuase,1) A-M is famous over the internet (mostly myspace) and i personally know him, and 2) there is a group called ALB and there is a link on that page that takes you to the website. so In my opinion, I think that the wikipedia page of A-M should not be deleted for it appears noble.

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The result was delete. Bucketsofg 19:23, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Paradigm High School[edit]

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A non-notable, small, private school that is written like an advertisement. It has no actual links and google has very little actually about it. Reywas92Talk 22:36, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I will try to fix that.. Actually, I will. I do not want it deleted. Sir Intellegent 23:08, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That good enough? Sir Intellegent 23:16, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I personally will go though all of the entries and eliminate any of the entries that violate wikipedia rules. I don't know who put the things other than the 1st paragraph in there, but it was not me. And to Denni, I wiped out a paragraph to remove the "advertising" theory. If I must, I will also wipe-out the other paragraph that is more than 2 sentences long to fix this problem. No unneutral articles from the students of this school will be winners of this said competition. Sir Intellegent 18:56, 11 March 2007 (UTC) Once again that wasn't me but, in my opinion, I think that might look good enough. It grew quite a bit... I will quickly patch that up, and let me know if that is good. Sir Intellegent 19:06, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Concern: I'm just curious about the existence of a competition - why a competition in the first place? My concern is that some people may not be entirely familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, so are you in a position where you can mediate what occurs between Paradigm High School and Wikipedia? +A.0u 21:42, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What I was going to do was that the entries were to e-mail me, I would pick the top 5 that follow Wikipedia standards, send them to the admin of the school, get the cleared one, and post it creating any needed formatting and etc. But, what's on there right now looks good enough for now or indefinately. Sir Intellegent 01:53, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You have a point, so feel free to add the so called "neutrality" tag to it because I can't find it. I will also work on the citations asap. Sir Intellegent 13:33, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 06:51, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kristin Hogan[edit]

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Prod removed, so listing at AfD. Appears to be a copy of the Brooke Hogan article, including biography details (homeschool, arrangement with record producer, FHM) and even the cite needed tag on album sales. Without third-party coverage of this person (outside myspace), fails WP:MUSIC guideline. Gimmetrow 22:51, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -Royalguard11(Talk·Review Me!) 02:03, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Austria Singles Top 75 Number 1s (2006)[edit]

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listcruft, non-notable Chevinki 23:08, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete for no indication of being real. Friday (talk) 14:42, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sergei Fleminkov[edit]

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Appears to be a hoax entry based off of a band bio located at Route 66 killers. Was listed as A1 although it obviously wasn't - if true, it's not an A7 and shouldn't be deleted anyway, but if it's an actual hoax entry, obviously it should go. badlydrawnjeff talk 23:08, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -Royalguard11(Talk·Review Me!) 02:04, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Gordon Gill[edit]

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WP:N, no outside sources, biggest meat of article is a quote from an individual of questionable notability himself Autocracy 23:27, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Johnny Appleseed. Friday (talk) 15:25, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

John Appleseed[edit]

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Absolute lack of notability. Contains 1 and a half line of information, none can actually be added, as there is anything else to say. Apparently, it could just be mentioned if there was a paragraph about this advertisement on the iPhone Article.

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The result was Redirect to Irving Independent School District. Quarl (talk) 2007-03-14 12:12Z

DeZavala Middle School (Irving, Texas)[edit]

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No evidence of notability put forward. Just another middle school. Dennitalk 23:38, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -Royalguard11(Talk·Review Me!) 02:05, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Karen Lamm[edit]

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Posted as a contested PROD. While Mrs. Lamm was married to two notable figures, her notability besides that is not established. Does not pass WP:BIO. *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 23:44, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus (default to keep). - Bobet 18:35, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

TV Guide's 50 Greatest TV Shows of All Time[edit]

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I don't believe that an individual magazine article meets notability standards, nor does the list that this one comprises, which is neither a prize nor an award. Mr. A. 23:52, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Speedy Delete. CSD A7. kingboyk 15:12, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kelsey Mulrooney[edit]

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Non-notable actress with a single minor role in a film and some minor TV appearances. Fails WP:BLP and WP:BIO. *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 23:55, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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