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The result was delete. Mr.Z-man 23:43, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ryanair Flight 9336[edit]

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Contested prod. Fails WP:NOT#NEWS: in the wake of the obvisouly article-worthy Spanair incident, at least one newspaper has posted newsstories about recent minor incidents in airplanes[1], including about this Ryanair flight. However, this is the kind of incident that gets attention for one day and is then largely forgotten, as indicated by WP:NOT#NEWS. Fram (talk) 11:29, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - Not notable and not that rare an event, nothing particularly special about this occurrence. MilborneOne (talk) 11:53, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. —• Gene93k (talk) 12:35, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Unless it's proven the flight was destabilised by a massive blast of hot air from Michael O'Leary's mouth, a non-notable incident. tomasz. 12:56, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete for now, unless it becomes a bigger story - there are disputed accounts of the oxygen masks not working properly, and the cause is currently unknown. If it uncovers a 737-800 fault, for example, and gets more press, it would be more notable. -- Mithent (talk) 13:20, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. As it stands, there isn't enough coverage on the flight. There also isn't really sufficient evidence that has been revealed to make it notable. NSR77 ^T_C 14:12, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Doesn't appear to be a notable incident, and the article includes no sources, thus failing WP:V. -- Hawaiian717 (talk) 15:30, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Sorry, can't see how this incident is at all notable and it just seems like just another minor thing on board an aircraft. I doubt it even deserves recognition in Ryanair's Incidents section. NcSchu_(Talk) 18:15, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Currently fails WP:AV project incident guidelines. Nimbus (talk) 22:22, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Fails WP:N since it has no sources at all. A Google search comes up empty (except the WP article itself) and gives no reason to expect sources will be found. Not notable as an accident/incident/event by the recommendations under discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Aviation/Aviation_accident_task_force. Ikluft (talk) 22:40, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'll point out a news article and reiterate my recommendation for delete. It doesn't matter that this is current news. Nor does it matter how many people were hospitalized since they were apparently all minor, earaches due to cabin depressurization. The news as reported so far is enough to tell us this does not fit the WikiProject Aviation/Aviation accident task force guidelines under discussion. With the loss of cabin pressure, the captain followed proper well-known procedure to descend and make a precautionary landing. This may turn out to be correctly termed an "incident" and not an "accident" as long as no damage is considered significant and no injuries are beyond minor. It's way too premature to create an article for this. Try again in a few years if there turns out to be any significant finding resulting from it. Ikluft (talk) 05:09, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Strong Keep I will quickly bring this up to standards per WP:V. This is an actual incident that has made the news hence per WP:NOTABILITY this article should stand. It also falls under WP:AV guidlines as a notable person was involved in the accident and 26 people were hospitalized. -Marcusmax (talk) 00:27, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Wow, only saw this on the news a few hours ago - it happened today. Keep as per WP:DEMOLISH. Maybe we can revisit in a month? Ludraman (talk) 01:12, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Project guidelines and essays don't trump policy. I don't see why an accident is more deserving of an article if a somewhat notable person was on the plane. If a notable person dies in the crash, like John Denver or so, then things change. But to keep the article because one passenger in a minor flight accident has a Wikipedia article runs foul of of our "notability is not inherited" guideline. As for demolish: we should only have articles once it has been established that this has notability beyond the news event, which is doubtful in this case. Fram (talk) 04:44, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • The house is built, it's just a particularly unexceptional house. tomasz. 15:39, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Not notable under Wilipedia's notability rules - Adrian Pingstone (talk) 15:25, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Keep This incident occurred in the last 24hours, reported widely on media channels. More material will emerge as investigations continue. 18:36, 27 August 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.131.23.243 (talk)
  • Comment. You seem very certain that it will emerge. It's at least equally plausible nothing new will emerge. Regardless, crystal balls aren't our preserve. tomasz. 16:41, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. WP:NOBJ: it takes more than just a short burst of news reports about a single event or topic to constitute evidence of sufficient notability. WP:NTEMP: articles should not be written based on speculation that the topic may receive additional coverage in the future. -- Hawaiian717 (talk) 17:00, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete No loss of life, no serious injury, no explosive decompression, no structural failure. Simply not notable. 87.74.2.211 (talk) 19:01, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. A minor incident with some exceptionally high profile customer complaints. No evidence of lasting impact. • Gene93k (talk) 20:27, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete completely non-notable, hundreds of similar depressurisation events would need to be included on Wikipedia if this identical incident were to be added, including one I have been personally been involved in which attracted no media interest whatsoever. SempreVolando (talk) 22:28, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Common occurrences lack notability. There are guidelines from all of the aviation projects on what is notable and this clearly is not. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:51, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete I think this is one of those times when we say WP:NOT#NEWS, I think it might be better if it was on WikiNews instead. - Jameson L. Tai ^{talk ♦ contribs} 18:37, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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