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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) b uidhe 03:13, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Vosges (chocolatier)[edit]

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Not a notable chocolate maker with seemingly only one location and also limited news coverage.

Fails WP:NORG, WP:GNG James Richards 16:02, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. James Richards 16:02, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

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Keep per WP:NEXIST: I'm finding coverage in business books; Vosges is a notable example of following your passion to create a strong business.
- Fortune Zoom: Surprising Ways to Supercharge Your Career by Leigh Gallagher and Daniel Roberts, TI Incorporated Books (2013): "Vosges is known for its exotic flavor combinations (beef jerky on the Wild Ophelia line, horseradish and sweet Indian curry from Vosges) and delicacies like chocolate-covered bacon."
- Look at More: A Proven Approach to Innovation, Growth, and Change by Andy Stefanovich, Wiley (2011): "When Markoff applied her passion for the world's diverse cultures to her work — sweets — she found a rewarding life and a strategic edge."
- Cooking Up a Business: Lessons from Food Lovers who Turned Their Passion Into a Career--and how You Can, Too by Rachel Hofstetter, Perigree Books (2013): "Katrina's vision for the future is to create a fully vertical business, where Vosges does everything from growing cocoa beans and making the chocolate base to selling the finished products in stores."

I'll add these to the article in a Further reading section, so that editors who want to improve the page can use these as sources. -- Toughpigs (talk) 19:08, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You don't think those sources aren't a little to positive about the subject? I haven't really figured out where the line is myself, but the quotes sound more like marking fluff then actual neutral in-depth coverage. Nor do I think things like Katrina's vision for the future of her company are really relevant anyway. --Adamant1 (talk) 07:21, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep based on the sources available and based on my patented, absolutely lousy, completely unreliable “I, a random person, have heard of this” test. Just googling this, I see multiple recent articles in Bloomberg News, Forbes, Good Housekeeping, Chicago Tribune, Washington Post, CNN, and CNET, and a telling article in the Boston Globe that’s about another subject (Dunkin Donuts) but assumes that the reader would know who Vosges is. The comeback will be that these many, many (I mean, I didn’t count, but it looks like hundreds of them) articles talking about Vosges don’t talk about the company as a corporate entity but rather discuss it in the context of its products. But when you have an absolute flood of reliable sources talking about a company’s products, that to me would be enough to allow an editor to build an encyclopedic article. Given that, we should be able to have an article about this — and should have an article about this. TheOther Bob 18:22, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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