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The result was Draftify. (non-admin closure) buidhe 03:11, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Life (Hardline album)[edit]

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Another case of "undersourced album/song that needs to go to AfD because one editor keeps reverting and there's like 3 page watchers". No indication of independent notability, redirect to band suggested. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 23:17, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Realistically - because no one has bothered to check them yet? Currently you've got one shorthish review [1], which is being copied by two other sources. That's not "in-depth coverage from multiple independent sources" (WP:NALBUM). Looking at the other album articles - Live at the Gods Festival 2002 should be nomiated for deletion as well based on the sourcing, as should Leaving the End Open and Human Nature (Hardline album). Off the top of my head, the only one that currently meets sourcing requirements is Danger Zone (Hardline album)... --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 14:01, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I am working to make them much more encyclopedic. We are still talking about an important band with one of the most famous voices of the current world rock scene. It is useless to request or impose its cancellation, when the editor could be proposed simply to deepen its contents, which in any case is in progress. -- Kekkofranco~enwiki (talk · contribs) 14:20, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy delete per WP:G5. SoWhy 14:30, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nadia Vega[edit]

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highly promotional article by now blocked sockpuppet of paid editing group DGG ( talk ) 22:58, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. There was a suggestion to merge, but no specific target mentioned. I guess Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority? In any case, no consensus for that. If somebody wants to datamine this, let me know and I'll be happy to userfy it for you. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:47, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

List of Cleveland RTA bus routes[edit]

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WP:NOTDIR. No indication anywhere that these are notable routes. Ajf773 (talk) 22:53, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to Mouse Guard#Planned film adaptation. (non-admin closure) buidhe 18:52, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mouse Guard (film)[edit]

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Film project that never entered production; not notable on its own. Trivialist (talk) 21:32, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. BD2412 T 03:50, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hal Lester[edit]

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Musician who doesn't meet WP:MUSICBIO. Artist who doesn't meet WP:ARTIST. Doesn't meet WP:GNG. The sources on the page aren't independent of the subject. The other supposed sources that were on the page don't mention him. EddieHugh (talk) 21:24, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ♠PMC(talk) 03:50, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sundown Manor, Indiana[edit]

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Tiny subdivision/neighborhood [2] [3], no indication of notability Reywas92Talk 20:59, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ♠PMC(talk) 03:50, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Braxtons Siding, Indiana[edit]

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Railroad siding in incorporated Paoli, Indiana [4], no indication it's a notable community. Zero newspapers.com results under this name or with Braxton Paoli. Reywas92Talk 20:54, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ♠PMC(talk) 03:50, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Aman Mishra[edit]

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minor role in a single film, no coverage, fails WP:NACTOR Praxidicae (talk) 20:52, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ♠PMC(talk) 03:50, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2019-20 Sheikh Russel KC season[edit]

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Prod removed, article fails WP:GNG and also WP:NSEASONS due to Sheikh Russel KC not playing in a fully pro league. Govvy (talk) 20:44, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:48, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Parks Place, Mississippi[edit]

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One of a couple dozen plantations marked on the provided map, but I can find no corroboration verifying the claim that it "is a ghost town" or was a "settlement" beyond a generic landowner's property. Reywas92Talk 20:28, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The abandoned church is in the same county, and it's a very small county. It was just an example. Magnolia677 (talk) 19:33, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Slatersteven: Appearing in a database is not sufficient; GNIS is notorious for mislabeling all sorts of things as "populated places". Per WP:GEOLAND, since there's no sign that this is a legally recognized place, it would have to meet GNG. –dlthewave 13:03, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I was not aware of that.Slatersteven (talk) 13:08, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Parks Place had a Post Office. I realize that there are differing opinions about whether a Post Office is legal recognition which meets WP:GEOLAND #1, see Wikipedia talk:Notability (geographic features)#Is the presence of Post Office sufficient to fulfill legally recognized place?. However, in my opinion, having a Post Office is sufficient. Further discussion about Post Offices and notability could go to the talk page. I have not yet been able to find non-trivial references to this location, so WP:GEOLAND#2 has not yet been met. Without the Post Office, Parks Place was a plantation and not notable. GNIS has been shown to be unreliable. See my comment. Further discussion about GNIS could go to Wikipedia talk:Notability (geographic features)#GNIS database. Cxbrx (talk) 17:12, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. I'm changing my position to delete, Bkonrad reverted my edits stating that there is nothing that connects them with this particular Parks Place. So, WP:GEOLAND#1 does not apply. There is only trivial coverage, so this location does not meet WP:GEOLAND #2. Delete. Delete. Delete. Many thanks to Bkonrad. Cxbrx (talk) 17:30, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps a better way of putting it would be that GNIS lists places that GNIS categorizes as "populated places" that are not necessarily sufficiently notable for WP:GEOLAND. An example is Pronto, Nevada, which is listed as a populated place in the GNIS. This was railroad station on the WPRR and per WP:STATION, it is not notable unless it has "received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject.". Don't get me wrong, I love the GNIS. I've found out a bunch of interesting information by reading some of the requests for name changes etc. I'm fascinated by it. I've too have submitted corrections. However, I don't feel that having a GNIS entry is in itself sufficient for WP:N. Neither is appearing on a map. Probably the best place for this sort of discussion is over at Wikipedia talk:Notability (geographic features). Cxbrx (talk) 23:49, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
GNIS is a good catalog of names and locations that appear on topos, but it's been shown to use "populated place" as a catch-all for miscellaneous entries. Lately we've had to delete dozens of articles about homesteads/ranches, geographic features, river crossings, boat landings, railroad sidings and subdivisions that were erroneously labeled as "populated places" by GNIS. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Susie, Washington for a collection of articles about industrial rail sidings and junctions that were erroneously labelled as populated places. –dlthewave 01:23, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
My point was ONLY about the reliability and usefulness of GNIS, not whether GNIS was notable by itself to determine if an article should be kept or deleted. • SbmeirowTalk • 09:47, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. ♠PMC(talk) 03:49, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Africa 100[edit]

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I see no point in this entry. This is just a rehash of a Pitchfork article. This isn't even a real album, it's just a theoretical mixtape a Pitchfork writer created. This is not referenced by any other reliable independent sources. I don't believe this deserves an article, and under the notability requirement mentioned in WP:MUSIC and WP:GNG, I recommend this is nominated for deletion.D1119 (talk) 18:52, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ♠PMC(talk) 03:49, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Rahul Ahuja[edit]

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spammy paid for article sourced to obvious press releases/fake sources. Praxidicae (talk) 18:50, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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and he's one of the famous personalities.This article is within the scope of WikiProject India, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of India-related topics. there will some of the mistakes in the content, but obviously, I haven't done anything which will prohibit the guidelines of Wikipedia. Miffsseek (talk) 11:23, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Statesmen piece is not at all reliable, nor is the rest of it coverage. Praxidicae (talk) 14:40, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Miffsseek: Unfortunately for you, most of the editors here already know how PR articles work. - The9Man (Talk) 18:13, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@The9Man: I truly understand Wikipedians have invested a great deal of thought in the question of what may and may not be included in the encyclopedia. But, a topic is "notable" in Wikipedia if the outside world has already "taken notice of it"( https://g.co/kgs/S28Wsj ) and if the source material exists, even very poor writing and referencing within a Wikipedia article will not decrease the subject's notability. - Objective evidence that the subject has received significant attention from independent sources to support a claim of notability. Sources of evidence include recognized reputable media sources, and other reliable sources generally. Though I have edited the article during the discussion and removed The Statesman (India) piece as There is no fixed number of sources required since sources vary in quality and depth of coverage, but multiple sources are generally expected. Sources do not have to be available online or written in English. I have even added it as a STUB and request experts to take that into consideration. Miffsseek (talk) 04:22, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:50, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Priyanka Nalkari[edit]

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The BLP article does not pass any notability criteria. References are so poor. Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 16:34, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) buidhe 03:13, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Vosges (chocolatier)[edit]

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Not a notable chocolate maker with seemingly only one location and also limited news coverage.

Fails WP:NORG, WP:GNG James Richards 16:02, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

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I'll add these to the article in a Further reading section, so that editors who want to improve the page can use these as sources. -- Toughpigs (talk) 19:08, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You don't think those sources aren't a little to positive about the subject? I haven't really figured out where the line is myself, but the quotes sound more like marking fluff then actual neutral in-depth coverage. Nor do I think things like Katrina's vision for the future of her company are really relevant anyway. --Adamant1 (talk) 07:21, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:01, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

United Macedonian Diaspora[edit]

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This article is for a charity based in the United States which lacks notability, with all the sources on this page being currently from the official website of the charity.

Fails WP:NORG, WP:GNG — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamesrichards12345 (talkcontribs) 03:18, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ♠PMC(talk) 07:10, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Shadow Wolves Productions[edit]

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The subject is not notable. My search for sources did not turn up independent reliable sources. MrClog (talk) 15:34, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ♠PMC(talk) 07:10, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bethel Christian Fellowship, Guelph[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG. Also is WP:RUNOFTHEMILL. A similarly named page (Bethel Christian Fellowship) was speedy deleted not long before this article was created. Biscuit3413 (talk) 13:57, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sjakkalle (Check!) 09:10, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

UK Single Market[edit]

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Non-notable topic, fails WP:GNG. The "UK Single Market" is basically the default situation of a sovereign state, i.e. that there are no trade barriers with its borders.

The only sources which are actually about the "UK single market" are:

  1. https://www.these-islands.co.uk/publications/i336/what_is_the_uk_single_market.aspx ... which seems to be an advocacy group
  2. https://reaction.life/what-is-the-uk-single-market/ ... which doesn't look like a reliable source.

This looks like the makings of a WP:COATRACK for one POV on the Brexit debates. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:38, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The article covers the various areas within the single market from goods, services, capital and people.
It links to pages where information would be repetitive if place in the article
As for references to the EU single market, the UK had been a member of the EU for a while and so the citations I found were mixed in with the EU though I do and will continue to try and find non connective citations.
I can take the article back to the draft space if necessary depending if you feel the article can stay on the main space while I improve it.
I tried to also keep it brief in areas where necessary or preferable to avoid it becoming a mirror article.
I took every step possible to keep it generic and avoid it becoming an opinion article.
I feel like it is suitable to be maintained, however I will endeavour to make any improvements and updates necessary to improve and grow the article where needed.
From what I can see of the issues presented it is a matter of sourcing and structure and has been incorrectly placed for deletion, I think the article should be updated and marked for WP:Cleanup
ChefBear01 (talk) 15:48, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Andy Dingley is only making a political statement not relevent to the page or contributing to the debate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChefBear01 (talkcontribs) 21:59, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • The question is WP:N, if anyone else paid attention to it. It's not enough if the only people writing about this are those advocating it. Andy Dingley (talk) 22:12, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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This is confirmed by the explanation given within the citation, page and legislation links I provided.
It is confirmed as a matter of international and domestic law it does exist par say
[User:ChefBear01|ChefBear01]] (talk) 18:16, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment
my comment has nothing to do with :making a theory or original research I don’t need either, I am pointing out the inevitable that the treaty of Union alongside it’s legislative parts undisputedly proves the existence fundamentally of the UK Single Market and it’s sub components.
It sounds like you are stating that Wikipedia does not accept the legality of international recognised treaties as you seem to state that you won’t accept it as a reliable source despite it been good enough for the international community. I can look for citations to reinforce the article, but the foundation of what I have provided should protect it from deletion and allow me to continue to grow the page source base.
ChefBear01 (talk) 21:03, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @ChefBear01: What do you mean by good enough for the international community? YorkshireLad  ✿  (talk) 22:04, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just spotted that you've added some more sources for the term to the article—that's great. I've removed the Daily Mail one because it's blacklisted by Wikipedia as a source (see WP:DAILYMAIL), but left the others. YorkshireLad  ✿  (talk) 22:13, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • KEEP
YorkshireLad I hope that I have shown enough progress to allow the page to be kept, I will endeavour to keep expanding where I can to improve the page and I appreciate the input I have received as it has helped me to identify where errors could be fixed and additions could be made
ChefBear01 (talk) 23:21, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sourcing which verifies the 1707 act of union still isn't enough to demonstrate this new concept of a "UK Single Market" as being notable.
Also, why's the 1800 act of union with Ireland here? That hasn't been in effect for a century. Nor would the RoI be any part of such a "UK Single Market". Andy Dingley (talk) 22:38, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Andy Dingley I have added 5 citations, and the act of Union 1800 is there as I is a foundation legislation that bought Ireland into the uk, however I have added in brackets that the Republic of Ireland ceded from the UK.
ChefBear01 (talk) 22:53, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • And again, Sourcing which verifies the 1707 act of union still isn't enough to demonstrate this new concept of a "UK Single Market" as being notable. Yes, we know Scotland exists. We know that it trades with England. But why do we need a new concept, and a new WP article to tell us this? Sam Taylor (and no-one else) likes to present this as if it's some radical new concept within the Unicorn-ridden Sunlit Uplands of brexit, when it isn't. And until we shot our feet off with The Great Stupidity, we already had a single market stretching across the whole of Europe too.
Also your Reuters link is broken. Andy Dingley (talk) 23:19, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Andy Dingley, I have fixed the broken link.
I have citations and links that both make notable mentions of the UK single market, and in one link referring to the EU - UK withdrawal agreement the European Union even acknowledges the existence UK Single Market in an international treaty and that I would say was notable alongside other mentions within my other links.
ChefBear01 (talk) 23:33, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@ChefBear01: please read WP:GNG, which is the test being applied here. (It is also known as WP:SIGCOV, because it's all about significant coverage.
Note in particular the first two sentences:

WP:GNG, aka WP:SIGCOV:
If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list.

  • "Significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material.
So far, you have offered precisely nothing which comes to meeting that test. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:46, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @ChefBear01: It is an improvement, though I'm not sure the sources are enough to qualify as significant coverage, as User:BrownHairedGirl notes: the mentions in those sources are still relatively brief. (By the way, I'm still interested to know what you meant by good enough for the international community—did you mean those sources you added?) YorkshireLad  ✿  (talk) 12:07, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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I was ineloquently trying to say that no country would question the integrity of a international treaty that two or more parties have chosen to be a party to international law is respected by countries and adhered to, and as the Treaty of Union is an international agreement and international law that is followed by countries surely it would be accepted as a respectable source of information to use as fact. I was pointing out for consensus whether you would agree that treaties bound by international law, used and respected by countries for centuries are respectable sources.
ChefBear01 (talk) 15:35, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @ChefBear01: Oh, I see. So, the Treaty of Union and the Acts of Union 1707 (for instance) would be considered to be primary sources. The "no original research" policy talks about the use of them, and says: Do not analyze, evaluate, interpret, or synthesize material found in a primary source yourself; instead, refer to reliable secondary sources that do so (emphasis in original). My interpretation of that is that deducing from the Acts of Union etc. that they create a "UK Customs Union" is original research. There is one secondary source that does make that deduction, which is what Sam Taylor presents, but editors (myself included) have raised question marks over its reliability. The other sources, as far as I can see, are passing mentions of the term that don't talk about what it is or might be. It is, however, good to see sources that do use the term at all, as this suggests there is some wider use of the term.
To be clear here, I'm not saying you're wrong to conclude that there is a UK Customs Union; my case is that the evidence in secondary sources isn't strong enough for it to be written about here. Similarly, I'm not criticising your evident hard work on the article, or saying you should do more to make it pass the general notability guideline, since the GNG is a test applied to potential article subjects, not to potential articles themselves. (I'm saying this without prejudice to including some of those new sources in an existing Brexit- or Indyref2-related article to mention that people have argued that a UK Customs Union exists, though the Sam Taylor article probably isn't a reliable enough source to go in those either. Also, other editors may disagree with me, particularly on this last point!) YorkshireLad  ✿  (talk) 16:12, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's not the logical path I'd see as being the main problem here. Rather Oculi's terse comment, which nails it perfectly, "states the obvious at inordinate length." Andy Dingley (talk) 16:27, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Andy Dingley: I agree that is also a problem with the article, but I'd argue that's not a reason for deletion, but for pruning it into a stub—which I think would be the right course of action if multiple people in reliable sources started writing articles like Taylor's, or discussing Taylor's views on the matter. They haven't done so, nor do I believe it's likely that they would, so it's not the right path to take, and the article should go for that reason. YorkshireLad  ✿  (talk) 16:52, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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I have fixed the text so that it is more condensed.
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User:YorkshireLad|YorkshireLad]]
I have added a citation that is detailed regarding the history of the single market, and is by a professional source
[6] Simms, Brendan (September 18, :::2019).
"From backdoor to backstop: Ireland's shifting relationship with Britain and Europe". New Statesman. Brendan Simms is a professor in the history of international relations at Peterhouse, Cambridge and an NS contributing writer. His most recent book is “Hitler: Only the World was Enough” (Allen Lane).
ChefBear01 (talk) 19:34, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@ChefBear01, that article https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2019/09/backdoor-backstop-ireland-s-shifting-relationship-britain-and-europe makes precisely one mention of a Uk single market: "In 1707, during the struggle against Louis XIV’s France over the Spanish Succession, Scotland and England established a parliamentary and defence union, as well as a single market and customs union, in a new state called Great Britain".
It should be abundantly clear to you that a single passing mention in one sentence of the 11th paragraph of the article is a trivial comment, and that it comes nowhere near the requirements of WP:SIGCOV. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:49, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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BrownHairedGirl
The comment goes into more detail about the history of the market, without waffling that information on the page. And it is from a more reputable source, as previous comments have mentioned they judge the source of the citation, I will move it into the history section as that is where it is most appropriate.
I have also corrected my comment above to include more specificity and I will more the citation to avoid any further confusion
ChefBear01 (talk) 15:31, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@ChefBear01, please do READ WP:SIGCOV. Despite numerous requests, you show no sign at all of having done so. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:34, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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BrownHairedGirl
I have read it multiple times over, but finding citations that meet the criteria is another thing
ChefBear01 (talk) 17:38, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
In other words, there is no significant coverage. Which is precisely why I nominated this article for deletion. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:42, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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BrownHairedGirl there is significant coverage but people then attack the citations I have used as questionable which is really a matter of interpretation not facts, just opinion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChefBear01 (talkcontribs) 19:28, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
ChefBear01, So I'm the only other person who used the word "questionable", and therefore I assume that was directed at me? To clarify what I meant: the source from These Islands is essentially a blog—see WP:BLOGS. The other piece (or rather, source for the same piece) is Reaction.life, which I admit wasn't a source I'd heard of. It's not a well-established source, but it potentially has some credibility (judging by its own Wikipedia article). However, it's worth noting that WP:GNG mentions significant coverage in reliable sources in the plural, and there's only one there. Hope that clears things up.  :-) YorkshireLad  ✿  (talk) 19:57, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment YorkshireLad My Comment wasn’t aimed at anyone particular, I should have said people have reservation, I am only trying to make contributions without being caught wikireaucracy. Or Wikipedia’s bureaucracy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_a_bureaucracy — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChefBear01 (talkcontribs) 20:38, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't bureaucracy. It is quality control, which goes to the heart of what Wikipedia is about.
The issue is simple. Wikipedia is a tertiary publication. In other words, it is based on secondary sources, rather than on primary sources. And those secondary sources have to be reliable sources.
Use of primary sources contravenes WP:No original research.
Unfortunately, what you have here is mostly primary sources, with some secondary sources which are not reliable sources. You do have one vaguely reliable source (the New Statesman wouldn't be anyone's first port of call for economics) ... but it makes only a trivial passing mention of the topic.
If and when there is significant coverage of this topic in reliable sources, then we can have an article on it. But not until then. Wikipedia is not a hosting site for original research and material sourced from blogs. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:26, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Consensus is for deletion. North America1000 05:22, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Chennai Super Kings–Royal Challengers Bangalore rivalry[edit]

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Two teams playing each other in a cricket league as per the schedule demands. There are no references or incidents to support the rivalry between them. As per the WP:NRIVALRY demands it doesn't satisfy WP:GNG. - The9Man (Talk) 13:26, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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And tended to focus on the personal rivalry between the 2 captains (Dhoni and Kohli). Spike 'em (talk) 11:01, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 17:01, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GAA Scores Podcast[edit]

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Non-notable podcast. No indication of notability either in the article or outside of it. Other than the subject's own website (effectively the only source for this article), the only independent coverage that I can find is this piece in the Irish Examiner. In this "listicle" we find the subject listed together with another 50 Twitter users. I can find no independent sources (certainly not in any of the Irish newspapers of record) which cover the subject in any depth. Or, frankly, at all. I would have moved for PROD, but the (almost certainly COI) user who created this article removed a previous SPEEDY tag, on the basis that they had removed all the promo/copyvio content they'd used to create it. Frankly, however, the underlying promo/NN concerns remain unaddressed. I do not see how this subject meets WP:SIGCOV or WP:WEBCRIT. Guliolopez (talk) 13:25, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:01, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Chennai Super Kings–Sunrisers Hyderabad rivalry[edit]

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These are two teams playing against each other in a sports league. There are no incidents to mention the rivalry between them. There are no references to support WP:NRIVALRY and WP:GNG - The9Man (Talk) 13:16, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sjakkalle (Check!) 08:40, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ahmed AlKuwaiti[edit]

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Non-notable professor, he haven't placed or won any notable awards, and most of the sources are from the university itself, or from his own website. Fails WP:N. --Faisal talk 13:03, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. North America1000 05:41, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Vidya Prakasananda Giri Swamy[edit]

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Not a notable person. The article looks very much like a promotional effort. Fails WP:GNG. - MRRaja001 (talk) 10:04, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Draftify. (non-admin closure) buidhe 03:14, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Black Protest[edit]

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This seems to be an essay on something written by James H. Cone rather than an encyclopedic entry. Black Protest (with a capital P) does not seem to be a notable book, movement or organisation (apart from Abortion in Poland § Black Protest). With a small "p" it is redundant to other articles. All the best: Rich Farmbrough (the apparently calm and reasonable) 18:06, 8 March 2020 (UTC).[reply]
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:52, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tplay[edit]

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Article about a Nigerian musician who fails WP:BIO and WP:NMUSIC. —Nnadigoodluck🇳🇬 09:47, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to Sports in Karnataka. There's a claim that there's copyvio issues here, but no specifics given. Whoever does the merge should be careful to avoid copying any offending material, and if it's substantial, you might also want to use WP:REVDELREQUEST to remove it from the history. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:59, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sports in Mangalore[edit]

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A separate list article about sports in a particular city of India might not be relevant here. It is better it can be merged with Sports in Karnataka. I also found copyright issues with the content. Abishe (talk) 08:57, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:52, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Chennai Super Kings–Kings XI Punjab rivalry[edit]

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There is no references to show these teams rivalry. There is no particular incident between these two teams to match this claim. Fails WP:NRIVALRY and WP:GNG. - The9Man (Talk) 07:46, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to Demographics of Finland. (non-admin closure) buidhe 18:50, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pakistanis in Finland[edit]

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No coverage, fails WP:GNG. Störm (talk) 07:25, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to Ethnic groups in Indonesia. (non-admin closure) buidhe 18:50, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pakistanis in Indonesia[edit]

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No significant coverage, fails WP:GNG. Störm (talk) 07:21, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Stratford, Connecticut#Government. (non-admin closure) buidhe 18:50, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Stratford town council[edit]

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I couldn't find evidence they meet WP:ORG or WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 07:16, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Demographics of Jordan. (non-admin closure) buidhe 18:49, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pakistanis in Jordan[edit]

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No coverage, fails WP:GNG. Störm (talk) 07:13, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Demographics of Ukraine. (non-admin closure) buidhe 18:49, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pakistanis in Ukraine[edit]

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Too little diaspora for a separate article. See Overseas Pakistanis. Störm (talk) 07:11, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:53, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Timber Meadows, Texas[edit]

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Small subdivision/housing development/neighborhood [13] that lacks significant coverage for WP:GEOLAND2 notability. All links on page are nonspecific to the neighborhood and zero coverage found in newspapers.com. Reywas92Talk 06:36, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ♠PMC(talk) 07:09, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Azad Samaj Party[edit]

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Too soon. Not notable. Notability not inherited. DTM (talk) 04:32, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I understand that the mission is important, but you should read the essay Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not here to tell the world about your noble cause DTM (talk) 08:33, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Just because you support any party doesn't mean that it should be existing on Wikipedia. Instead it should have some eligibility to be there on Wikipedia. Thanks Hellar (talk) 16:07, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:53, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pyke, Idaho[edit]

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As best I can determine, this was just a spot on the UP line west out of St. Anthony: there's no evidence there was ever anything here and precious little room for it, but it does seem that it shows up in UP rate catalogues. Searching was heavily impeded by last name hits on a couple of widely cited people and legal cases. Mangoe (talk) 02:57, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. BD2412 T 03:53, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hattrick Public School[edit]

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Doesn't appear to be a high school, to meet WP:GNG or any other part of WP:NOTABILITY. Boleyn (talk) 18:12, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:01, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Woman's Eye[edit]

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This doesn't meet WP:NOTABILITY. Bringing to AfD as I may have missed something in translation. Boleyn (talk) 17:53, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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  • So this, for example, is not a reliable source? -- Hoary (talk) 03:19, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
This is probably an OK source, but it only tells this group of women photographers made an exhibition. Please provide in-line citation to several RS on the page, with translation of source names and titles to English, so it will be clear they are good sources and what they say. Otherwise, this page will probably be deleted. My very best wishes (talk) 17:44, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) buidhe 06:30, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Quaiser Khalid[edit]

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This article clearly fails WP:BLP and WP:NPOV. Fixing it would require deleting it and starting over. BonkHindrance (talk) 17:27, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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@Sulfurboy: Thank you! BonkHindrance (talk) 17:50, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment So I've given the article quite the buzz cut so hopefully that's enough to alleviate pov concerns. I'm going to let other editors vote on this though since I hold an inherent bias from all the swamp draining and the fact that I originally approved it out of AfC in '17. Sulfurboy (talk) 18:06, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Looking at it now, NPOV would most likely make it a Stub. Best call would be delete. We will see soon. JAZHAZHANDZWIKI (talk) 17:59, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Invalid arguments for keeping (e.g., that the article has been around a long time, or that participants have "heard of" the subject in an anecdotal sense, or that this "is an election year") are given no weight. The remaining consensus is for deletion. No prejudice against refunding to draft if any editor believes that a substantial rewrite can overcome the deficiencies identified. BD2412 T 15:56, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kim Iversen[edit]

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Highly promotional tone, low notability, reliant on self-published material. Brownsc (talk) 15:31, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I see no reason why Wikipedia would shut down Kim Iversen’s page! She is a professional progressive journalist who’s voice is valued and appreciated by thousands! — Preceding unsigned comment added by SkinInGame (talkcontribs) 05:07, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Don't delete. Kim is an influential progressive political commentator. I'm interested in reading wikipedia articles about her. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.112.77.185 (talk) 04:57, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Don't delete Kim. This page is fine and gives information I want to know about her. Deleting her would be capitulating to the hatred of some bad faith anon.Mattisx (talk) 04:52, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kim is an amazing journalist and astrologer. Keep free speech alive! Nilsa toledo — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nilsa Toledo (talk • contribs) 04:47, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]


This article seems fine and does not seem like material fit for deletion. It's an article about a notable person. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DerekDudage138 (talkcontribs) 04:46, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Leave the page up and DO NOT CAPITULATE TO STALKERS — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:1C0:CB01:1546:6DFA:CCCE:9936:9E0D (talk) 04:41, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Do NOT delete this page. Kim is great. Delete/banish/block the stalker who is trying to get her page deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.30.252.252 (talk) 04:46, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DO NOT DELETE THIS PAGE! This is a real person, I know this person & they should not be erased based on a lone individual who is working maliciously to harm the public image of this individual by getting them erased. They are a progressive radio host & the information in their Wikipedia page pertains to them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:840:1d40:592e:8683:9f4f:f5c3 (talk) 04:47, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not delete. Influential online commentator who has a growing platform and audience. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.53.56.174 (talk) 04:53, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please Do not delete she is very famous and has a huger audience then many of the other people who have articles on Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.254.10.141 (talk) 13:32, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That article only mentions Iversen in passing, and even that is within a quote. Devonian Wombat (talk) 21:50, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) buidhe 06:20, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GREENSOLE[edit]

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Unremarkable company, fails WP:ORG. Previously created as Greensole Foundation by this sock KartikeyaS (talk) 18:33, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I agree. Mccapra (talk) 13:37, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Sjakkalle (Check!) 08:51, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Waqidi Falicoff[edit]

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Originally PROD'd by SwisterTwister with the reason "Over 5 years of templated concerns and none of it has changed beyond what's here and none of it is significant for a convincing article; sources examined show triviality and nothing else beyond." PROD was contested by @WFalicoff (who is presumably also the article's subject?) FASTILY 09:09, 21 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Source Independent Reliable Significant coverage
"The Harry Fox Agency". Harryfox.com. Retrieved 2012-04-16. No, talent agency No No, can't even find his page here.
"Film Composers in America", A filmography 1911-1970 by Clifford McCarty Probably Maybe Maybe
http://dspace.sunyconnect.suny.edu/bitstream/handle/1951/27618/Statesman%2c%20V.11%2c%20n.%2017.pdf?sequence=1 Probably No (school newspaper) Yes, but doesn't mention Falicoff by that name, calls him William Faliks.
http://dspace.sunyconnect.suny.edu/bitstream/handle/1951/27620/Statesman%2c%20V.11%2c%20n.%2019.pdf?sequence=1 Probably No (school newspaper) Yes, but doesn't mention Falicoff by that name, just calls him William.
"FZ Videography". Globalia.net. Retrieved 2012-04-16. Maybe No No (just list page)
The Broadway League. "The official source for Broadway Information". IBDB. Retrieved 2012-04-16. Yes Yes No. Just list item.
The Broadway League. "Paul Sills' Story Theatre | IBDB: The official source for Broadway Information". IBDB. Retrieved 2012-04-16. Yes Yes No. Not even mentioned
"Jackson Browne Performance Chronology". Ghostsontheroad.co.uk. Retrieved 2012-04-16. Yes No No, doesn't seem to be relevant in any sense
"Rock Music Posters - Memorabilia, Concert Poster, Silkscreen, Poster Art". PosterScene. Retrieved 2012-04-16. No (their own poster) No No, just a poster.
"Waqidi's Musical Bio « Muswell Hill Music". Muswellhillmusic.com. Retrieved 2012-04-16. No (his own site) Maybe Yes
Summary: Fails GNG. There has been plenty of time and still we don't have multiple reliable independent sources. We have two writeups of gigs at the university in a school newspaper from when he was a student, some listings in database sites and the subject's own website. --Slashme (talk) 09:52, 21 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Consensus here, and previous precedent is that publication of academic books or peer-reviewed articles is part of the regular work of professors and not in itself sufficient to establish notability. Sjakkalle (Check!) 08:49, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Torsten Liem[edit]

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No evidence of any notability for this Osteopath. All the very many references show that he exists and is a member of very many ostopathic organisations. Nothing shows that he is notable. I draftified this article which was moved to mainspace without review, but its author simply moved it back into mainspace. It would have been much better as a Draft to try and find better sources, but now it is in mainspace, the only option is deletion as it fails WP:GNG  Velella  Velella Talk   09:03, 21 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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  1. Schmidt, Sabine (2001). Zeitschriftenneugründung “Osteopathische Medizin”. Vol. 39(1). p. 9-10. ((cite book)): |work= ignored (help)
  2. Bischoff, H. (2003). Orthopädie und Manuelle Medizin. Vol. 41(4). p. 299-300. ((cite book)): |work= ignored (help)
  3. MM aktuell. Vol. 38(4). 2000. p. 258-266. ((cite book)): |work= ignored (help)
  4. Informationen¶Ärztevereinigung für Manuelle Medizin – Ärzteseminar Berlin (ÄMM). Vol. 40(6). 2002. p. r87-r103. ((cite book)): |work= ignored (help)

Hopefully someone with journal access who speaks German can take a look at these. Best.4meter4 (talk) 18:07, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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According to the Wikipedia guidelines for academic notability one of the eight criteria must be fulfilled. Torsten Liem satisfies criteria 4 (“The person's academic work has made a significant impact in the area of higher education, affecting a substantial number of academic institutions. (…) Criterion 4 may be satisfied, for example, if the person has authored several books that are widely used as textbooks (or as a basis for a course) at multiple institutions of higher education”). His textbooks on cranial (Praxis der Kraniosakralen Osteopathie, 2019, Thieme, Stuttgart, ISBN 978-3-13-240461-8), visceral (Leitfaden viszerale Osteopathie, 2013, Elsevier, München, ISBN 978-3-437-56013-2), and parietal (Leitfaden Osteopathie: Parietale Techniken, 2016, Elsevier, München, ISBN 978-3-437-55783-5) osteopathy are primarily used by the two institutions of higher education offering osteopathy in Germany (Dresden International University and Fresenius University of Applied Sciences). — Preceding unsigned comment added by EW.BL. (talkcontribs)


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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. GirthSummit (blether) 10:07, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

KLM Telephone[edit]

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Local telephone company, I can find no evidence of notability for this one. Does not seem to pass WP:CORPDEPTH, as the coverage I can find is routine coverage, mostly based announcements from when it was bought out, and old listings in state government business directories, both of which would be considered routine. The rest of the coverage I can find is self-published, mostly by the current owner, although some by the entity. These also do not demonstrate notability. I find it telling that the organization's parent company does not have an article. Hog Farm (talk) 01:57, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete, after extended time for discussion. BD2412 T 02:56, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Brunswick, Swansea[edit]

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Deprodded by user:Necrothesp with a suggestion to bring it to AfD. I can’t find any sources to suggest that this topic is notable. Mccapra (talk) 18:27, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Yubo Ruan[edit]

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Is this 23-year-old entrepreneur sufficiently notable? Appears to have been quoted or referred to by a number of articles but only as a curiosity. As it stands, my own opinion is weak delete but I'd like to hear a discussion on this. --Nlu (talk) 14:00, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:52, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Zhengzhou (October 1929)[edit]

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Similar to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Heishiguan by the same editor, the only source appears to be a primary source Taiwanese book without page number. The only RS results I'm getting, for example this source, suggest that there was a battle in September 1930 which paved the way for the capture of Zengzhou, but I'm not able to confirm that fighting occurred in Zengzhou in 1929. (There was apparently fighting in Zengzhou in October 1948, but that isn't this). buidhe 00:46, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was WP:SNOW delete. BD2412 T 21:09, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mddl Fngz[edit]

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Non-notable rap group. Only presented sources are from MySpace. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:26, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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