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Category:LGBT Organizations in Mississippi

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The result of the discussion was: Merge to Category:LGBT organizations in the United States. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:54, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Category:LGBT Organizations in Mississippi (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: This state subcategory of Category:LGBT organizations in the United States is not part of an established scheme of categorizing LGBT organizations by states of the United States. If such a scheme is not desired at this time, then this should be merged into Category:LGBT organizations in the United States; if such a scheme is desired, then rename to Category:LGBT organizations in Mississippi. (Category creator notified using ((cfd-notify)).)BLACK FALCON (TALK) 20:21, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, all editors see the deletion log when they click on the redlink (a nifty relatively new feature). But since it wasn't deleted after CfD, this one still needs to come here, and can stand in for both variants.
    --William Allen Simpson (talk) 11:10, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Hugo

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:58, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Hugo (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Eponymous overcategorization for a media franchise. The amount of material relevant to the topic does not justify the existence of an eponymous category at this time and the five articles are adequately interlinked via in-text links. (Category creator not notified because: banned.)BLACK FALCON (TALK) 20:11, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Security Guards murdered in terrorist incidents

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:38, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Security Guards murdered in terrorist incidents (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Overly narrow creation; syntax issues to boot. Gilliam (talk) 19:51, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Further comment - if this is retained for some reason, it needs to be renamed to Category:Security guards killed in terrorist incidents. The capitalization needs to be fixed and "murder" is a legal term. Otto4711 (talk) 22:35, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Film series

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. In digging through the nominated categories you find other navigation aids that do a better job. Everything from main articles, to templates, to dab pages. So for this subset I don't see a problem with deletion based on the strength of the arguments. I will add that this decision does not mean that everything in Category:Film series can or should be deleted. If anyone wants additional deletions, I suggest that they be nominated on a one by one basis for discussion. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:58, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Category:House film series (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Missing in Action films (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Mission: Impossible films (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Pirates of the Caribbean films (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Re-Animator films (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Scary Movie films (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Sleepaway Camp (film series) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Subspecies series (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Tomb Raider films (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Visual Bible series (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:When a Stranger Calls (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete - per several recent CFDs for film series categories, consensus is emerging that for categories that consist of little or nothing but the film articles with possibly an article on the franchise, a category is not needed for navigational purposes. The film articles are interlinked and in many instances a template for the series exists. Otto4711 (talk) 19:24, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • We've deleted TV episode and character categories when there's little to no chance that there are a sufficient number of notable members. Category:Designing Women episodes is one I recall with only one article and no liely additional articles, and Category:Murder, She Wrote characters was deleted the other day. Otto4711 (talk) 20:18, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Characters by novel nationality

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The result of the discussion was: Upmerge to Category:Characters in written fiction which is the parent. It is clear that the name is a major problem. There are also strong cases being made to delete this category, or in one case to even delete the children. By upmerging we address the issue with the name and anyone who has an interest can work to develop a better solution. I'd suggest the talk page of the merge target. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:09, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Characters by novel nationality to Category:TO BE DETERMINED
Nominator's rationale: While inanimate objects can be said to belong to a nation, nationality is not a characteristic which can be appropriately attributed to such objects. I have been unable to think of a good alternative name, so any suggestions would be appreciated. (Category creator notified using ((cfd-notify)).)BLACK FALCON (TALK) 19:18, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Would you clarify this comment please? You're not convinced of the need for these "articles"? Do you mean categories? But then you're saying it's a reasonable scheme? This seems contradictory. Otto4711 (talk) 21:54, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • No, I mean articles. Try not to tie yourself up in knots. Johnbod (talk) 23:25, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm quite knotless, thanks, but still not understanding what you're trying to say with your comment. Your comments still seem in direct opposition to each other. Otto4711 (talk) 23:44, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oh, dear, lets try Simple English: "Personally I'm unconvinced by the need for many or most of these articles. Once we have so many articles, at least for Anglophone novels, this seems a reasonable way to categorize them." Clearer now? Johnbod (talk) 02:25, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
OK, but there must be a snappier formula. Johnbod (talk) 02:26, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but what? Occuli (talk) 20:08, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • It isn't OCAT - the underlying categories are such as Category:Vladimir Nabokov characters which is neither ternary nor rampant. No-one is suggesting 'Fooian characters in Booian-language novels written by Zooians', although CatScan might get somewhere with it. Occuli (talk) 20:08, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:UK Provincial Gentlemen's Clubs

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The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:Traditional gentlemen's clubs in England. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:13, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Category:UK Provincial Gentlemen's Clubs -> Category:UK provincial gentlemen's clubs
Nominator's rationale: mis-capitalised Ian Cairns (talk) 17:57, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I found 2 Scottish ones, New Club and The Beggar's Benison, which certainly deserves its place. Should it not then be Category:Provincial traditional gentlemen's clubs in the United Kingdom, and is Edinburgh provincial these days? Occuli (talk) 00:50, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've also re-organised the US ones per Johnbod. Occuli (talk) 02:08, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well done - I see my estimate was a tad out! Looking at the Beggar's Benison, and even after checking out the refs I can't quite shake the feeling there may be a hoax going on here, it seems never to have owned premises, which in my book makes it a dining club, & rather different. Maybe your suggestion is better - the Scots are bound to turn up eventually & set up their own category anyway. Johnbod (talk) 02:22, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Law in Oregon

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The result of the discussion was: Merge to Category:Oregon law. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:56, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Law in Oregon (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. The category attempts to draw a distinction that Category:Law in Oregon is for the general topic of law in Oregon, while Category:Oregon law is for specific "statutes, regulations and cases". However, this doesn't make much sense, and there aren't corresponding Category:Law in Pennsylvania, Category:Law in Georgia, etc. Superm401 - Talk 10:40, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Relational Psychoanalysts

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:52, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
rename Category:Relational Psychoanalysts -> Category:Relational psychoanalysts
Nominator's rationale: mis-capitalised Ian Cairns (talk) 09:05, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:20th century people

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. I wish there was more discussion here. But since the normal keepers did not comment on this parent nomination, it has not opposition and should be deleted. Maybe everyone is waiting for the discussions on the subcategories which will not be as easy to decide. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:43, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

delete

Category:20th-century people (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:21st-century people (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: the number of people with bios on wikip of these two centuries, and probably the 19th as well, is so huge that pages listed on sub-cat pages of these two pages, combined, merely duplicate Category:People and its subcat pages. I suggest we divide by century only to the 18th (possibly 19th). Do we need a Category:20th-century sportspeople, Category:21st-century singers, and possibly 50 more for each occupation (when generalised), as well as Category:20th-century people by nationality and Category:21st-century people by nationality for nearly 200 countries? Will put up the present (approximately 40) subcats for nomination (for an upmerge) if discussion here suggests it is necessary 08:48, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

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Category:Century old churches in the Philippines

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The result of the discussion was: merge. While the idea of reorganizing the tree by century instead has merit, it appears to require added discussion around a change to the current organizational consensus. Even with the upmerge, the parent category won't be inordinately large, so creating the proposed categories doesn't require this to remain in place in the meantime. Bearcat (talk) 06:57, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Century old churches in the Philippines (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Arbitrary age inclusion criteria. Why 100 and not 50 or 200 years? Not a defining characteristic for these buildings. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:36, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • But we already have Category:Church buildings established in the 19th century etc and 'by century by religion' but not 'By century by country'. Category:Churches in England say is not subcatted by time period. Occuli (talk) 17:12, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No, it isn't, more's the pity! I thought we were debating Category:Church buildings established in the 19th century in the "Formerly papal congregations..." one, but perhaps not. The obvious ways to categorize church buildings are by denomination, location and date. At the moment we have trees for the first two, but by date only goes into the "architecture by date" tree where the majority of articles, from all over the world, end up in "by year" categories (often of questionable accuracy, and covering construction periods of several years), which is rather ridiculous. Carlaude's mass forced conversions of architectural categories to "congregations" ones has made the situation much worse. We should move to more sensible categories, like "churches by century and country". Here is an easy place to start. That's my view anyway. Johnbod (talk) 19:50, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Dutch admirals by century

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The result of the discussion was: Delete the first and merge the rest. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:02, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest merging
Nominator's rationale: overcategorization. There have only ever been about 70 Dutch admirals, there are unlikely to be that many more, and more importantly there is no precedent for this - there is Category:Admirals by century, no Category:Spanish admirals by century, Category:British admirals by century, Category:Portuguese admirals by century, Category:American admirals by century, etc. Mayumashu (talk) 06:14, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Songs about goats

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:44, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Songs about goats (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Too obscure of a theme to be meaningful. —Justin (koavf)TCM☯ 04:37, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Dual License

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Dual License (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. As of June 15, all current and past contributions are licensed under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0, and most are dual-licensed (with GFDL). Consequently, this category no longer describes a distinct, useful subset of edits. Gavia immer (talk) 03:36, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Playstation Portable-only games

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:51, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Playstation Portable-only games to Category:PlayStation Portable-only games
Nominator's rationale: The current title is incorrect - PlayStation is spelled in CamelCase. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 03:22, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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