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Category:Doomsday films

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The result of the discussion was:  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 April 7#Category:Doomsday films. -- Black Falcon (talk) 06:24, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Propose merging Category:Doomsday films to Category:Apocalyptic films
Nominator's rationale: Merge. We should choose one or the other. I would prefer "Apocalyptic films" consistent with other "Apocalypticism" cats. Greg Bard 22:56, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People from Bra

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:People from Bra, Italy. -- Black Falcon (talk) 06:18, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:People from Bra to Category:People from Bra, Italy
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Proposing a rename to match main article Bra, Italy. Perhaps it's the only actual place in the world called "Bra". "BRA" is the standard abbreviation for "Brazil", but it might be a bit of stretch to say that confusion could result in that way. But to be safe, I think matching to the main article is a good idea. Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:30, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Roman society

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Ancient Roman society. -- Black Falcon (talk) 06:02, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Roman society to Category:Ancient Roman society
Nominator's rationale: Rename. For clarity and to match parent category Category:Ancient Rome. The category is not intended to contain articles about contemporary society in Rome. Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:24, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Defunct World War II USAAF Fields - North America

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The result of the discussion was: delete as empty, noting a few issues:
  1. There is consensus to rename, but no clear consensus so far for one particular title.
  2. The category appears to have been manually moved to Category:Airfields of the United States Army Air Forces in North America (the parent category is still Category:Defunct World War II USAAF Fields). It is generally recommended to not rename categories while a CfD discussion is ongoing, although this discussion suggests that the new title is a significant improvement.
  3. The use of "defunct" could be problematic as it could suggest that the airfields themselves are no longer operational, which seems to be untrue in the majority of cases.
A general discussion of the entire category structure, including the top-level category, would probably be useful at this point. -- Black Falcon (talk) 06:42, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Defunct World War II USAAF Fields - North America to Category:Defunct World War II USAAF Fields (North America)
Nominator's rationale: Rename. To use proper disambiguation. Note, that if this is approved we will need a mass nomination to cleanup a large number of like disambiguated categories created by one user. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:23, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:JavaScript programming language

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:JavaScript. -- Black Falcon (talk) 06:01, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:JavaScript programming language to Category:JavaScript
Nominator's rationale: There is no other JavaScript than the programming language. Other programming language categories are simply the name of the language (e.g. Category:Perl, Category:C++) unless there is a need for disambiguation. Apoc2400 (talk) 21:13, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Wikipedians dislike monotheistic religions

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Jafeluv (talk) 14:43, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Wikipedians dislike monotheistic religions (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Wikipedians dislike semitic one god religions (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Wikipedians dislike institutional religions (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Wikipedians dislike Institutional religions (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete both. Presumably these were meant to be "Wikipedias who dislike monotheistic religion" and "Wikipedians who dislike semitic one god religions". Wikipedia is not a battleground and users expressing their personal subjective distaste for an entire class of religions does nothing to foster collaborative building of an encyclopedia. The second one is in particularly bad taste, in my opinion. Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:00, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Regional Routes in South Africa

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The result of the discussion was: Nomination withdrawn by nominator. htonl (talk) 12:15, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Regional Routes in South Africa to Category:Provincial Roads in South Africa
and also the subcategories:
  • Category:Regional Routes in Eastern Cape Province to Category:Provincial Roads in the Eastern Cape
  • Category:Regional Routes in Free State to Category:Provincial Roads in the Free State
  • Category:Regional Routes in Gauteng to Category:Provincial Roads in Gauteng
  • Category:Regional Routes in KwaZulu-Natal to Category:Provincial Roads in KwaZulu-Natal
  • Category:Regional Routes in Limpopo Province to Category:Provincial Roads in Limpopo
  • Category:Regional Routes in Mpumalanga Province to Category:Provincial Roads in Mpumalanga
  • Category:Regional Routes in North West Province to Category:Provincial Roads in the North West Province
  • Category:Regional Routes in Northern Cape Province to Category:Provincial Roads in the Northern Cape
  • Category:Regional Routes in Western Cape Province to Category:Provincial Roads in the Western Cape
Nominator's rationale: Rename. For consistency with the main article Provincial Roads in South Africa and the similar category Category:National Roads in South Africa. htonl (talk) 19:22, 30 March 2010 (UTC) [reply]
Note: I have added the sub-categories to the nomination; apart from changing "Regional Routes" to "Provincial Roads" in each one, I have also modified the way that the province names are used to correspond with normal usage. - htonl (talk) 19:28, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Nomination withdrawn - I'm no longer sure what should be the correct title, so I'm withdrawing this nomination for now. If necessary I'll come back to CFD later once we can decide on a name for the corresponding page(s). - htonl (talk) 12:09, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Slightly confused - [1] suggests regional and provincial routes are actually different (both R but different shape sign), and [2] (govt) refers to a "Regional Route 21". I see a few reliable online sources using "Provincial Road" in this context, but relating to "P" route roads, not "R". If RR is the official nomenclature, then we should be using that. I'm not based in SA though so I don't know if there's been a change or whether I'm missing some really obvious reliable source. Orderinchaos 22:09, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You're not the only confused one. I'm pretty sure that your first link (routes.co.za) has it wrong (based on several other egregious mistakes in that site I would say it's not a reliable source); I've never heard of "P"-numbered roads, can you link to where you saw it? "Major Provincial Road" and "Minor Provincial Road" are the terms used by the Automobile Association of South Africa on their roadmaps, which is why I decided to use that terminology. I really couldn't find any reliable source on the net for the numbering system; I think the problem is that it was introduced in the 60's and 70's and none of the official documents from back then have made it onto the Internet. If it becomes absolutely necessary I will do some research in my university library to see if I can come up with any publications from back then that describe the numbering system. - htonl (talk) 22:47, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(added after close, simply for completeness) I don't doubt you're right. Have sent you the P info on your talk page (it could well be a government records system rather than a route system). Orderinchaos 18:37, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Defunct railway stations in Kingston upon Hull

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The result of the discussion was: speedy rename (C2.C) to Category:Disused railway stations in Kingston upon Hull, noting that this category will become eligible for speedy renaming once again if Category:Disused railway stations in the United Kingdom is renamed. -- Black Falcon (talk) 05:59, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Defunct railway stations in Kingston upon Hull to Category:Disused railway stations in Kingston upon Hull
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Standardise name to that used in all of the parent categories which use Disused rather than Defunct. Keith D (talk) 10:03, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Agree - Makes sense to me --Brunnian (talk) 13:44, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have a minor issue - some of the stations don't exist anymore - so I used 'defunct' rather than 'disused' (ie something that doesn't exist can't be disused) - I don't know if other similar categories have the same problem - I will ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Railways#Category:Disused station for more info. It's not necessary to not rename - possibly some new naming scheme that can be mass implemented will be worked out later. If you have any general thoughts please comment at wikiprojectUKrailways.Shortfatlad (talk) 15:57, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I agree too on the subject of matching cats - please feel free to change it to match the current status. (It could be renamed as part of any future block renames)Shortfatlad (talk) 19:12, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Line open Line now freight only Line mothballed Line closed
Station open (Open station) disused
Station closed Buildings extant, unused closed or disused closed, disused or defunct
Buildings extant, in other railway use closed or disused closed, disused or defunct
Buildings extant, in non-railway use closed or disused closed, disused or defunct
Buildings demolished closed or defunct
These are my suggestions for what would be an appropriate description in each case and is more a starter for 10 than a final answer. Thryduulf (talk) 17:32, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure that a station being open whilst the line is closed to passengers is a logical possibility. But as part of the wider scheme it seems that "disused" is not the right term for the whole family of categories and either "defunct" or maybe "closed" is.Shortfatlad (talk) 19:29, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Electoral reform in New Zealand

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The result of the discussion was: delete. I will add the article to Category:Electoral reform by country so that it is not removed from the 'Electoral reform' category tree, but feel free to change/revert as appropriate. -- Black Falcon (talk) 05:49, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Electoral reform in New Zealand as its only article is "Electoral reform in New Zealand". This seems like an obvious deletion candidate. Adabow (talk) 09:37, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I won't vote in this one (it's one of those cases where my political science studies probably get in the way of objective Wikipedia reasoning), but the 1986 Royal Commission into electoral reform would be a 4th potential article, as would movements which campaigned strongly for or against it. Agreed that both referenda should have articles - if the NZ guys want to develop them I'm happy to provide academic sources I know of, though I have no time to directly assist myself. Orderinchaos 21:59, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Passenger trains of the CB&Q

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Passenger trains of the Chicago, Burlington and Quincy Railroad. -- Black Falcon (talk) 05:45, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Passenger trains of the CB&Q to Category:Passenger trains of the Chicago, Burlington and Quincy Railroad
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Remove abbreviation and match name of parent category. Iain Bell (talk) 09:17, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Wikipedia:Books

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The result of the discussion was: Rename both. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 12:35, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Wikipedia:Books to Category:Wikipedia books
Propose renaming Category:Wikipedia:Book tool to Category:Wikipedia book tool or Category:Wikipedia Book tool - added 00:20, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
Nominator's rationale: I think that Wikipedia books is a less awkward and confusing formulation than Category:Wikipedia:Books, which suggests three distinct namespaces. Note that certain subcategories, such as Category:Wikipedia books (community books) and Category:Wikipedia books (user books), already use this convention.
If there is consensus for the rename, I will nominate the subcategories in a follow-up nomination (there are other issues to consider with the subcategories, so I think it is best that they be discussed separately). (WikiProject Wikipedia-Books notified using Template:Cfd-notify) -- Black Falcon (talk) 00:17, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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