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Category:Convergence

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The result of the discussion was: C2B speedy. The Bushranger One ping only 22:47, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Convergence to Category:Convergence (mathematics)
Nominator's rationale: Rename. "Convergence" is ambiguous. We need some sort of disambiguation in this case. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:19, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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More "Music in" categories

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The result of the discussion was: keep "in PLACE" format. Any other specific changes that are desired should be followed up with a specific nomination (eg, the SRM one probably needs at least the word "the" inserted, but User:Hugo999's suggestion could also be considered). Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:35, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Music in County Kildare to Category:Music of County Kildare
Propose renaming Category:Music in County Laois to Category:Music of County Laois
Propose renaming Category:Music in Northern Ireland to Category:Music of Northern Ireland
Propose renaming Category:Music in Socialist Republic of Macedonia to Category:Music of the Socialist Republic of Macedonia
Propose renaming Category:Music in Sardinia to Category:Music of Sardinia
Nominator's rationale: More "Music in" categories like the ones below, except these are in the middle ground between country and city.--Mike Selinker (talk) 22:32, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No strong feelings: I agree that standardising on one or the other would be good. However there is a conceptual distinction between the two, albeit one that may have little practical impact. Imagine a [notable] musical institution in County Kildare devoted to the study and performance of Sardinian music. That would be most naturally categorised under both Category:Music of Sardinia (still better Category:Sardinian music) and Category:Music in County Kildare. I created, in fact, the in Sardinia category and I think that—in so far as I gave it any significant thought—my rational was that a concert hall in Cagliari where little if any music of Sardinia was performed ought to be included in the category. However, logical as it might be, I am not about to suggest that all these places should have separate in and of categories. Perhaps it might be a good idea to add a rubric to all of these categories such as ‘This category contains both articles about Northern Irish music and about music more generally in Northern Ireland’. Well, it would need to be phrased much better…. Ian Spackman (talk) 23:24, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Music by city

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The result of the discussion was: rename to "music in CITY" format. (The only one I'm changing the CITY name of is "Hull" is being changed to "Kingston upon Hull". Any other changes can be followed up with a more specific nomination.) Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:27, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Music by city categories
Propose renaming Category:Music from Amsterdam to Category:Music of Amsterdam
Propose renaming Category:Music from Bath, Somerset to Category:Music of Bath, Somerset
Propose renaming Category:Music from Birmingham, West Midlands to Category:Music of Birmingham, West Midlands
Propose renaming Category:Music from Blackpool to Category:Music of Blackpool
Propose renaming Category:Music from Bolton to Category:Music of Bolton
Propose renaming Category:Music from Brighton, England to Category:Music of Brighton, England (or probably Category:Music of Brighton and Hove)
Propose renaming Category:Music from Bristol, England to Category:Music of Bristol, England (or probably Category:Music of Bristol)
Propose renaming Category:Music from Cambridge to Category:Music of Cambridge
Propose renaming Category:Music from Cork to Category:Music of Cork
Propose renaming Category:Music from Coventry, England to Category:Music of Coventry, England (or probably Category:Music of Coventry)
Propose renaming Category:Music from Derby to Category:Music of Derby
Propose renaming Category:Music from Dublin (city) to Category:Music of Dublin (city)
Propose renaming Category:Music from Essex to Category:Music of Essex
Propose renaming Category:Music from Hull to Category:Music of Hull (or probably Category:Music of Kingston upon Hull)
Propose renaming Category:Music from Leeds to Category:Music of Leeds
Propose renaming Category:Music from Leipzig to Category:Music of Leipzig
Propose renaming Category:Music from Liverpool to Category:Music of Liverpool
Propose renaming Category:Music from London to Category:Music of London
Propose renaming Category:Music from Manchester to Category:Music of Manchester
Propose renaming Category:Music from Newcastle upon Tyne to Category:Music of Newcastle upon Tyne
Propose renaming Category:Music from Nijmegen to Category:Music of Nijmegen
Propose renaming Category:Music from Oldham to Category:Music of Oldham
Propose renaming Category:Music from Oxford to Category:Music of Oxford
Propose renaming Category:Music from Rochdale to Category:Music of Rochdale
Propose renaming Category:Music from Saint Petersburg to Category:Music of Saint Petersburg
Propose renaming Category:Music from Salford to Category:Music of Salford
Propose renaming Category:Music from Sheffield to Category:Music of Sheffield
Propose renaming Category:Music from Somerset to Category:Music of Somerset
Propose renaming Category:Music from Southend-on-Sea to Category:Music of Southend-on-Sea
Propose renaming Category:Music from Stockport to Category:Music of Stockport
Propose renaming Category:Music from Stoke-on-Trent to Category:Music of Stoke-on-Trent
Propose renaming Category:Music from York to Category:Music of York
Propose renaming Category:Music from Yorkshire to Category:Music of Yorkshire
Propose renaming Category:Music from Wigan to Category:Music of Wigan
Propose renaming Category:Music in Berlin to Category:Music of Berlin
Propose renaming Category:Music in Cologne to Category:Music of Cologne
Propose renaming Category:Music in Dresden to Category:Music of Dresden
Propose renaming Category:Music in Düsseldorf to Category:Music of Düsseldorf
Propose renaming Category:Music in Frankfurt to Category:Music of Frankfurt
Propose renaming Category:Music in Hamburg to Category:Music of Hamburg
Propose renaming Category:Music in Jerusalem to Category:Music of Jerusalem
Propose renaming Category:Music in Lugano to Category:Music of Lugano
Propose renaming Category:Music in Mantua to Category:Music of Mantua
Propose renaming Category:Music in Milan to Category:Music of Milan
Propose renaming Category:Music in Munich to Category:Music of Munich
Propose renaming Category:Music in Nottinghamshire to Category:Music of Nottinghamshire
Propose renaming Category:Music in Paris to Category:Music of Paris
Propose renaming Category:Music in Stockholm to Category:Music of Stockholm
Propose renaming Category:Music in Vienna to Category:Music of Vienna
Nominator's rationale: In Category:Music by city and related categories, we have 25 "Music of (city)"s, 15 "Music in (city)"s, and 34 "Music from (city)"s, so there's no clear answer to what format we should use. I like "Music of" best, notably because of categories like Category:Music of United States subdivisions. Update: I've adjusted the nomination to match some English city category formats, which don't use the country name.--Mike Selinker (talk) 21:48, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Portals by country

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The result of the discussion was: Keep. Ruslik_Zero 18:46, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Portals by country to Category:Country portals
Nominator's rationale: to suit convention (not that I agree with that current convention). -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 21:31, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Burials at chapels

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The result of the discussion was: Merge per nom. Ruslik_Zero 18:55, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose merging Category:Burials at chapels to Category:Burials at churches
Nominator's rationale: This is not a well-defined category: "chapel" could be a separate building, or it could be part of a church (e.g. several of the burials in Washington National Cathedral are in side chapels, with only one in the main church). Mangoe (talk) 21:21, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, chapels are not usually churches; they are often attached to generally secular structures (airports, prisons, universities, etc.), and churches clearly denote Christian houses of worship and at least as most of the chapels attached to secular structures in the US (having no state religion) are not exclusively used by Christians. And doesn't "chapel" mean Christian houses of worship which are neither Anglican nor Catholic in British English? Not sure what concept of chapel is being used. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:32, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If you look at the list of inclusions, they seem to have been selected simply on the basis of the word "chapel" in the name of the structure. One is a Methodist church, others are family or school chapels; one appears to be a misidentified parish church. Mangoe (talk) 22:55, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Navassa Island-related lists

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The result of the discussion was: delete; sole article was deleted and category is now empty. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:03, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Navassa Island-related lists
WP:SMALLCAT. Only one article, Index of Navassa Island-related articles, which is at AfD; even if that article is kept, it is the only article which would go into the category. Any article which could go here could easily go to Category:Navassa Island. Neutralitytalk 20:52, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Portals needing attention

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:40, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Portals needing attention (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. I checked all the portals in this category, and nowhere in any of their talk pages does it say what needs attention. This is merely a drive-by categorization that doesn't aid in anything. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 20:16, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • But if I remove all the articles misusing it, then it'll be an empty category. Kinda counterintuitive, don't you think? Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 20:47, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • And how then will you find the portals you want to delete for being in need of attention, TPH? ;-) BencherliteTalk 20:50, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, it will be empty - until more portals requiring attention are found. This is one of those categories that needs the "do not delete even if empty" tag. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:20, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Chhatrapati Shivaji International Airport

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Ruslik_Zero 18:52, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Chhatrapati Shivaji International Airport (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. This category was recently created by the same editor who brought us Category:International airports in India. While this does fall into a series, I suspect that the categories named after is not a series that every airport needs to be in. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:04, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Human rights activism

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The result of the discussion was: Speedy move - noncontroversial C2C. The Bushranger One ping only 22:01, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose merging Category:Human rights activism to Category:Human rights organizations
Nominator's rationale: Merge I think the intended scope is the same. Even if a subtle difference was intended, the nuance wouldn't be significant enough to warrant two separate categories and the main result would be confusion. Pichpich (talk) 17:51, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Film projects

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The result of the discussion was: delete (category has remained empty). Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:43, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose merging Category:Film projects to Category:Upcoming films
Nominator's rationale: Merge As far as I can tell, the point of this category is to isolate articles that shouldn't really exist according to WP:FILMPROJECT. In that case, this should be viewed as a WikiProject-related maintenance category and it should contain talk pages rather than articles. If it's used to categorize articles then note that Category:Upcoming films is open to films that are "factually planned to be filmed/released in the near future". Its scope is therefore wide enough to include the two films currently in Category:Film projects. Pichpich (talk) 15:07, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose merge. The purpose of the category was to allow oversight of which articles had used the "WP:Film project" rationale (where this category is referenced) , when otherwise under WP:NFF they would be deleted. As long as there are any films that do this (usually not a large number at any time, as the status is usually temporary) so should the category. And yes, its should be applied to talk pages rather than articles, as mentioned in the discussion when the category was created, here, so I've adjusted the two articles currently in the category. Barsoomian (talk) 15:47, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
But clearly that's not how the category is being used. Unless it has a name that clearly marks it as what you intend it to be, I think this problem will continue. Pichpich (talk) 21:43, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:The Hunchback of Notre-Dame films

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The result of the discussion was: C2C speedy. The Bushranger One ping only 20:22, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:The Hunchback of Notre-Dame films to Category:Films based on The Hunchback of Notre-Dame
Nominator's rationale: Rename. For consistency for all other "Films based on..." categories and with Category:Works based on The Hunchback of Notre-Dame. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:09, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Dynamical systems

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:45, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming
Nominator's rationale:Dynamical systems theory seems more appropiate then Dynamical systems. Brad7777 (talk) 12:18, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Railway infrastructure in London

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Rail transport stations in London and Category:Rail infrastructure in London. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:50, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming
Nominator's rationale: These categories contain not just mainline railway stations/infrastructure, but those for Underground, DLR, Tramlink, etc. Per the relevant naming conventions only articles about mainline railway stations are called "X railway station", others are "X tube station" for the Underground, and "X station" for multi-modal stations. Also relevant is the parent Category:Rail transport in London and the discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 October 27#Category:Stations by London fare zone. Thryduulf (talk) 11:20, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The parent for Railway infrastructure in London is Category:Rail infrastructure in the United Kingdom and the parent of that also uses the same convention, so Rail infrastructure in London should be the category, rather than "Rail transport infrastructure...". Geof Sheppard (talk) 13:57, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't object to that. Thryduulf (talk) 16:26, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Indian Navy auxiliary ships

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The result of the discussion was: merge.--Mike Selinker (talk) 02:44, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose merging Category:Indian Navy auxiliary ships to Category:Auxiliary ships of the Indian Navy
Nominator's rationale: Duplicate cats; target has the preferred and predominate "X of Y" name. The Bushranger One ping only 07:50, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Norwegian Coast Guard ships

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The result of the discussion was: merge.--Mike Selinker (talk) 02:44, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose merging Category:Norwegian Coast Guard ships to Category:Ships of the Norwegian Coast Guard
Nominator's rationale: Duplicate category; the target has the "X of Y" format that is preferred and overwhelmingly used by subcats of subcats of Category:Ships by navy The Bushranger One ping only 07:34, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Patrol vessels of the Myanmar Navy

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The result of the discussion was: Withdrawn. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:36, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Patrol vessels of the Myanmar Navy (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale - Delete: WP:OC - frigates and corvettes aren't usually classed as "patrol vessels" (especially the former), and the only two subcats here are already also categorised under the parent cat Category:Ships of the Myanmar Navy. The Bushranger One ping only 07:25, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Wikipedians who use Opera

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. The word "Opera" (capital "O") is not exactly unambiguous, but it certainly doesn't mean "opera" in a context like this.--Mike Selinker (talk) 04:39, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Wikipedians who use Opera to Category:Wikipedians who use Opera (web browser)
Nominator's rationale: The users in this category are saying they use Opera (web browser), not the subject of the article Opera. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 07:08, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I also think that Category:Wikipedians who use Safari should be renamed; however, at this point, I'll wait for this discussion to be closed before I nominate it. I had been unaware of that category when I nominated this one - I found this one through Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 November 8#Category:Loves Opera. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 06:22, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Racecar drivers

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:48, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Racecar drivers to Category:Racing drivers
Nominator's rationale: Discussion at WP:MOTORSPORTS recently determined "racing driver" to be the preferred disambiguation format; "racecar driver" is primarily American (and somewhat simplistic-sounding), while "racing driver" is universally recognised - and not all the drivers race cars, as well. Subcats of this to be speedied if approved. The Bushranger One ping only 04:33, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Family businesses

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The result of the discussion was: delete. I tried to come up with a clear definition to justify the keeping of the category, and couldn't do it either. I'm going to delete this with no prejudice against a new attempt with a new name.--Mike Selinker (talk) 22:25, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Family businesses (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. To quote Family business, A family business is a business in which one or more members of one or more families have a significant ownership interest and significant commitments toward the business’ overall well-being. Well the bottom line is that this is totally subjective and not appropriate for deciding on what goes into the category. Vegaswikian (talk) 03:16, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Accommodation for sports competitions

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The result of the discussion was: C2A speedy. The Bushranger One ping only 01:05, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Accommodation for sports competitions to Category:Accommodations for sports competitions
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Accommodations really needs the plural form here. Without it, it does not read right. This category is a collection of buildings and is not a singular accommodation. Vegaswikian (talk) 00:14, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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