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Category:Novel Series started in 1997

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge to Category:Novel series. – Fayenatic London 18:42, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Non-notable cross-category with only one member Aristophanes68 (talk) 20:09, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support: Category creator was indeffed for WP:COMPETENCE issues. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:43, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Editor2020 15:38, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
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Category:LGBT topics and religion

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:38, 19 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Before a semi-related CFD for documentary films is complete, I must ask: do we really need "topics"? No sibling in Category:LGBT has it. If successful, I'd speedily rename the subcategories for each individual faith. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:29, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. Aristophanes68 (talk) 20:58, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Editor2020 15:40, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
  • You don't seem firmly opposed to this nom at that talk page discussion. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 12:41, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm opposed to "LGBT and foo" should be the construction, (1) as long as no better solution can be agreed upon, (2) as long as it isn't recognized this affects more than two categories, and (3) as long as it isn't recognized that for many of the categories that use "LGBT topics" in their name this is far from an acceptable solution. --Francis Schonken (talk) 08:10, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Anyhow, feel free to suggest, here is the full list of the non-people cats afaik:
    --Francis Schonken (talk) 08:18, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • It might also be useful to consult the WP:AND policy regarding the "LGBT and foo" should be the construction proposal. --Francis Schonken (talk) 08:31, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    As for the people categories (the ones I'm currently most interested in), they don't have the "and" flaw, still I'm looking for improvement if any is possible (inserting "and" in the name would be a deterioration, not an improvement, same for omitting "topics" imho):
    --Francis Schonken (talk) 09:14, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm sorry but I miss the point why you oppose the nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:06, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    1. Not a better solution
    2. Consistency, and Precision
    3. WP:AND (which becomes somewhat more acute with the proposed new name)
    4. WP:SEPARATE the proposed new name doesn't make clear whether or not the category belongs to the "people" category tree. The qualifier "topics" would indicate a no-people category, but when that isn't made clear by omitting "topics":
      1. WP:OCASSOC issues
      2. WP:BLPCAT issues --Francis Schonken (talk) 11:37, 3 October 2014 (UTC) - updated 05:35, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wars involving Persia‎

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:39, 19 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale:: Iranian history contains and is largely equivalent to Persian history, in accordance with the tree of Category:History of Iran and the larger part of the tree of Category:Military history of Iran. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:36, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's a linguistic issue. Europeans have used 'Persia' and the adjective 'Persian' for a long time, so I wouldn't propose to change the names of these historically known wars. But it did involve Iranian dynasties and Iranian people. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:31, 28 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • If the common English usage is "Persian", then "Persian" is should remain. It's also difficult to say that these wars "involve Iranian dynasties and Iranian people" but not "involve Persian dynasties and Persian people", if that's the basis of your point. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 20:52, 1 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Military history of Persia‎

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:40, 19 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale:: Most military content has already been upmerged previously, these are some final entries yet to follow. In accordance with Category:History of Iran tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:32, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Sieges involving the Sassanid Empire‎

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Vegaswikian (talk) 17:53, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Rename in accordance with the rest of the tree of Category:Sasanian Empire. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:35, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per nominator....William 17:06, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Battles of the Roman–Sassanid Wars

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Vegaswikian (talk) 17:53, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Rename in accordance with the rest of the tree of Category:Sasanian Empire. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:35, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per nominator....William 17:06, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Eran Spahbeds

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The result of the discussion was: Merge. Vegaswikian (talk) 17:55, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Smallcat (lead article + 1 person's article). Eran Spahbed is one specific type of the more common Spahbed (Persian general). Marcocapelle (talk) 15:31, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support per WP:SMALLCAT. Editor2020 15:54, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
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Category:Hindu views

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Vegaswikian (talk) 17:56, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Rename, since views is a very broad term which could eventually also include dogmatic views etc. By renaming, the purpose of the category becomes more specific. Also, it will be consistently named with parent Category:Religion and society. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:34, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support Aristophanes68 (talk) 20:13, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Buddhist views

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Vegaswikian (talk) 17:57, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Rename, since views is a very broad term which could eventually also include dogmatic views etc. By renaming, the purpose of the category becomes more specific. Also, it will be consistently named with parent Category:Religion and society. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:34, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support: Aristophanes68 (talk) 21:15, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It also has a parent category Category:Views by religion. Do you plan on renaming all the other subcategories of Category:Views by religion? p.s. Category:Buddhist belief and doctrine also exists for doctrine and dogma. Editor2020 15:34, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
I would have planned so, if not for Category:Muslim views which exactly suffers from the problem of a category grown too big because of lack of clear inclusion criteria. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:30, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:States by religious status

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Religion and government. – Fayenatic London 17:27, 19 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:States by religious status to Category:Religious typology of states
Nominator's rationale: Rename, the current name is confusing, as it suggests that all states are being classified by their religious status, which is really not what this category is about. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:41, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
How about Category:Religion and government? That seems to be what the articles included are about. Editor2020 03:07, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
Fair enough! Marcocapelle (talk) 19:32, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Baseball players from Syracuse, New York

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Sportspeople from Syracuse, New York and Category:Baseball players from New York. – Fayenatic London 23:53, 15 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: First few if any of these players are from Syracuse. Consensus is that a person isn't from Foo if there only connection to Foo is that they played for one of Foo's sports teams. Also per numerous CSDs we don't subcategorize athletes this way. All these categories should be merged into Baseball in Syracuse, New York ...William 02:09, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Here is the San Francisco discussion for reference. I can dig up the others if people like. Rikster2 (talk) 01:40, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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