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Maccabiah Games categories

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The result of the discussion was: relisted at CFD 2015 Jan 30. (NAC) Armbrust The Homunculus 22:43, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Propose deleting Category:Maccabiah Games athletes (track and field) by country (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
  • Propose deleting Category:Maccabiah Games athletes (track and field) by country (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
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Nominator's rationale: The Maccabiah Games is not a large scale enough games to warrant subdivision by both the nation represented and the sport competed, nor is the year of competing at a specific edition of the games a defining feature of any athlete. Furthermore, the categories themselves do not warrant subdivision on a size basis. Category:Maccabiah Games competitors for the United States (the largest container) will contain only 50 articles upon upmerging of all the by-sport children. On the sport side, Category:Maccabiah Games athletes (track and field) will only contain six articles after a complete tree upmerge of the country and year subcategories (that tree currently has more child categories than articles). The same applies to the other smaller nations and sports.
This is the case of a structure for a minor competition getting far ahead of itself by following the Olympic category model. Such facets of competition at the Maccabiah are not of the same relevance or definingness in comparison to Olympic level events. To give an idea of the level of the competition, the winner of the 2009 men's shot put won with a mark of 14.88m. This is far below even low-level international standards (consider that over 18.50m was needed to rank in the top global 150). It is not only not defining to compete at a specific edition, but we are unlikely to gather multiple notable biographies to warrant categories of this level. SFB 23:42, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Olympic competitors from Ireland who represented other countries

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The result of the discussion was: listify. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:10, 15 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Good Olfactory: Now listified. SFB 20:42, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Convert Category:Olympic competitors from Ireland who represented other countries to article List of Olympic competitors from Ireland who represented other countries
Nominator's rationale: This category is a broad mix of people who represented different countries in very different circumstances, from North American emigration, to British people born in Ireland who briefly lived there, to some poor categorisations of athletes from the early Olympic Games - for which national designations were retrospectively given as it pre-dated the modern competition between national teams (athletic clubs dominated early on). This kind of wide ranging material is not suitable for a category and is much better treated in a list article where we can describe the various circumstances and teams represented in prose and tables. SFB 23:19, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Indian festivals

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The result of the discussion was: as nominated. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:36, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unusual combination of the festival and fair trees for an Indian state. The contents of the Rajasthan category contains festivals+3 fairs (Baneshwat, Dusshera and Pushkar. The Assam category contains three events that fall within the concept of a festival (i.e. a greater emphasis on a yearly cultural gathering, rather than a periodic gathering based on trade or a traveling carnival) so should be merged with the pre-existing Assam festivals category. The West Bengal category merely serves as a container for the festivals category, except for one fair article. I suggest the fair list article be upmerged, the child be renamed to the usual naming of "festivals in" rather than "of" (per Category:Festivals in India), and then the category can be deleted. There is no benefit to mixing the two concepts of fairs and festivals in isolation. SFB 22:34, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Lamps

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The result of the discussion was: split, and turn category to a disambiguation page. (NAC) Armbrust The Homunculus 06:28, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Propose converting Category:Lamps to a category disambiguation page. – Added 10:24, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
Nominator's rationale: Split. A rename was proposed at CFD Nov 13, but did not gain consensus. Rather late in that discussion I suggested splitting most members to Category:Types of lamp, as a sub-cat of Category:Categories by type, and at least five pages to Category:Individual lamps within Category:Individual physical objects. These two new categories could both sit within the current parent Category:Lighting. The proposed names are clear enough to exclude other items on the disambiguation page Lamp i.e. acronyms or persons named Lamp. – Fayenatic London 22:12, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Festivals of Kosala

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:30, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. As discussed in Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics/Archive_57#Request_to_remove.2Fdelete_Category:Kosala_and_its_sub-categories., the category does not have any articles related to Kosala, but all to modern Odisha.. --Shiti (talk) 19:06, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Sniper fiction

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:29, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per the majority of subcategories of Category:Fiction by topic. McGeddon (talk) 19:03, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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People killed by the Sri Lankan Army

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:28, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Try this and this. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:58, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Pan Africanism in South Africa

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:07, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale; per Pan-Africanism, Category:Pan-Africanism, Category:Pan-Africanist organizations, Category:Pan-Africanist political parties, Category:Pan-Africanists, ect. Charles Essie (talk) 17:39, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Non Profit Organisation

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The result of the discussion was: delete and merge contents to pre-existing Category:Non-profit organizations. If users want to formally propose a rename to Category:Nonprofit organizations or to Category:Non-profit organisations, that may be done by nominating Category:Non-profit organizations. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:39, 7 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Redundant to Category:Non-profit organizations. DexDor (talk) 06:01, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:User Student

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:27, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Doesn't form part of any existing category structure. DexDor (talk) 05:58, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: No reason to keep - Has no need to be in existence --Nelson Serrao (talk) 19:53, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I suspect the creating editor didn't realize this would be visible outside his pages. RevelationDirect (talk) 01:59, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • WP:CAT says "every category apart from [the] top one must be a subcategory of at least one other category". User talk pages are normally left uncategorized or placed (usually by template) in one or more categories for Wikipedians which are intended to assist collaboration between users. DexDor (talk) 06:46, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Companies in Philippines

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The result of the discussion was: delete; merge contents to Category:Companies of the Philippines. Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:14, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary duplication of Category:Companies of the Philippines. DexDor (talk) 05:51, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I didn't find the duplicate category while creating this new one. - Rahat (Talk * Contributions) 09:32, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Agreement with Nominator - Unnecessary duplication --Nelson Serrao (talk) 19:54, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Human rights fighter

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:15, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The only article currently in this category is also in Category:Human rights activists. DexDor (talk) 05:47, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Popular surnames in Nepal

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The result of the discussion was: redirected to Category:Surnames of Nepalese origin. Even if there is a substantive reason for that not to be the redirect target, categories are never allowed to tag their contents as "popular" vs "unpopular" (an WP:NPOV violation) — and none of the renaming proposals conforms to Wikipedia's structural conventions for surname categories, so the only options on the table were to either redirect it to the existing category or to delete. Bearcat (talk) 05:10, 8 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:OC#SUBJECTIVE. DexDor (talk) 05:44, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Members of the Forty and Eight veterans organization

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:08, 15 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose deleting Category:Members of the Forty and Eight veterans organization (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: The people in this category (e.g. Don Hathaway) are notable as politicians etc - being a member of this organization is a WP:NON-DEFINING characteristic. DexDor (talk) 05:30, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
This is an organization with an unusual name and is a select group as well. I see no harm in keeping the category. Billy Hathorn (talk) 05:15, 4 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If we categorized by this non-defining characteristic then why not categorize by every other fact in the article (which, e.g. for Frank Voelker, Jr., would place the article in hundreds of categories) ? See also essay WP:DNWAUC. That the organization has an unusual name might be relevant to the article about the organization, but is hardly relevant to how we categorize articles about politicians etc. DexDor (talk) 21:06, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Space Tourism

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:17, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Duplicates Category:Space tourism and no redirect is needed. DexDor (talk) 05:26, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Multi-State Routes

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:33, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is not a defining characteristic of the categorized highways. Each is a separate highway that happens to share a number with an adjoining highway in a neighboring state without evidence of an overt attempt to create a continuously numbered highway, unlike the United States Numbered Highways or the Interstate Highway System. Imzadi 1979  05:25, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Taiwan placenames originating from Japanese rule

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:09, 15 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is categorizing places (e.g. Huatan) by a characteristic of its name, not a characteristic of the place itself. DexDor (talk) 05:21, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
That would be an improvement on the current name, but I still think it should be deleted. See Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2012_November_29#Category:Place_names_of_Hampshire_origin_in_the_United_States for examples of previous discussions about similar categories. DexDor (talk) 23:15, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@DexDor: I support the existence of categories for places by origin of their name if it is in a non-native language. Such placenames almost always denote great historical relevance. In the above example, Hampshire falls outside of this scope, but I'm aware that many argue against my position as well. I think the American experience (as a colony) affects this perception. SFB 20:10, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
An article about a place should be categorized based on characteristics of the place (e.g. that's it a town in Fooland), not on characteristics of its name. Categorizing based on characteristics of the name could lead to whole plethora of categories (places named after people, places whose name contains an exclamation mark ...). Also, many places have (or have had) multiple names (e.g. Rome/Roma, Falklands/Malvinas). We don't (afaik) categorize other topics (e.g. people) by characteristics of their name. DexDor (talk) 23:08, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Companies with single letter stock symbols

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The result of the discussion was: delete; will listify first. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:38, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: AT&T (for example) is already sufficiently categorized (e.g. in Category:Internet service providers of the United States) so a new categorization scheme based on length of stockmarket symbol is not needed. DexDor (talk) 05:17, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

CNBC

rare group of publicly traded companies with single-letter ticker symbols

Quotation cited by Genevieve Valentine in Single-Letter Symbol Phenomenon

single-letter symbols have long been the A to Z of marquee-value branding among companies that want to create an image of exclusivity

Therefore, I maintain that the notion of "sufficiently categorized" is not correct and that this category be maintained.--CmdrDan (talk) 06:48, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:User Talk:Melody Concerto Archive

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:25, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Afaik we don't categorize user talk pages like this. DexDor (talk) 05:13, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Can it be shown by some policy that this is inappropriate in user space? Is there a specific policy, or are you just nominating it because you don't see the use of it? I'm curious to know anyways why this should be prohibited. Until such a time as it can be proven there is a policy against having it, I'm against the deletion of this category. I don't see "We don't do that" as a valid deletion reason. Melody Concertotalk 06:37, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@RevelationDirect @Sillyfolkboy I contend that since the page isn't directly a userpage, just a talk page, that WP:NOUSERCAT does not apply. Were I applying the category directly to User:Melody_Concerto this may indeed apply.

Per WP:PROJCATS I contend the category is administrative and has never pretended to be a content category, it is useful for finding my talk archives. While I may not yet have a million of them, there's nothing in current policy that precludes the use of such categories on TALK pages. If other editors wish to move for a rename, that would be acceptable, but current policies being cited don't really seem to cover this specific instance and I feel further discussion and consensus should be required because I still disagree with the original rationale for this CfD being "We don't do that here" in so many words. Melody Concertotalk 00:28, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Were the nominator's rationale more substantial than "We don't do that here" that might fly, but as it stands now I still remain unsatisfied with the nomination or any of the reasons. Melody Concertotalk 03:49, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Buildings that took over a century to complete

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:20, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:ARBITRARYCAT. DexDor (talk) 05:09, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:English words not following the I before E except after C rule

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:22, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose deleting Category:English words not following the I before E except after C rule (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: The defining characteristic of Madeira is that it is an archipelago of the Atlantic Ocean, not that its name contains "ei". DexDor (talk) 05:07, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Madeira IS an archipelago but it is a NAME and a REIGON OF THE PORTUGUESE STATE hence its full name " Região Autónoma da Madeira " e.g. Madeira Wine, Madeira Cake, Madeira Islands and the "nationality" Madeirense. ALL OF WHICH DO NOT FOLLOW THE RULE! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.20.50.175 (talk • contribs)
  • And all of which are Portuguese words, not English ones, and thus have no such rule that they were ever under any obligation to follow in the first place. Bearcat (talk) 23:29, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:South Australian Suffragist wikibomb

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The result of the discussion was: Upmerge which is a Delete since everything is in the parent. However that would drop them from the SA tree so this really is an upmerge to Category:People from South Australia. Splitting of Category:Australian suffragists by state if needed can be taken on if someone really belives this is appropriate and it should be done for all states and not just one. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:39, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category contains articles about real life people (e.g. Mary Colton), but is a "wikibomb" category. It may have been intended as a talk page category, but I'm not keen on cluttering up talk page categorization with wiki-event categories (that inevitably aren't removed after the event). DexDor (talk) 05:02, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Hometown of cricketer Pradhyumna Thakare

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:23, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Not an appropriate use of categorization. DexDor (talk) 04:58, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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